History YMMV / MarilynManson

29th Oct '17 2:33:46 PM wyattte
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** Even ''Mechanical Animals'' was a bit controversial when it was released in 1998. On one hand, some critics loved the new direction and Manson got a few of his most famous songs out of it ("The Dope Show," "Rock Is Dead"), but a significant portion of his audience who were riveted by ''Antichrist Superstar'' couldn't quite get into his new GlamRock leanings. Notably, 2000's ''Holy Wood'' sounds like a combination between the two albums, sonically.
23rd Oct '17 5:57:17 AM HasturHasturHastur
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** Daisy Berkowitz was the first guitarist and co-founder of the band, but clashed with Manson and Twiggy during the ''Smells Like Children'' tour and ended up leaving halfway through the recording of the second album, ''Antichrist Superstar''.

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** Daisy Berkowitz was the first guitarist and co-founder of the band, but clashed with Manson and Twiggy during the ''Smells Like Children'' tour and ended up leaving halfway through the recording of the second album, ''Antichrist Superstar''. He wound up joining Jack Off Jill and had various other projects, as well as a solo project where he played Spooky Kids songs. [[AuthorExistenceFailure He later succumbed to cancer in late 2017]].
1st Oct '17 11:33:10 AM lilithmercy
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* HarsherInHindsight: Having a song called "Pistol Whipped" after he nearly got crushed to death by a stage prop shaped like 2 handguns in September 2017.
13th Sep '17 11:44:11 AM SeptimusHeap
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** The [[http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/marilyn_manson.php photoshoot with his father]], Hugh Warner. This was soon after his mother died, and there was also [[http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/18/marilyn-manson-i-created-a-fake-world this interview]], where they bonded over ApocalypseNow. His father is a Vietnam vet, and one of the people who dropped Agent Orange on Vietnam.

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** The [[http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/marilyn_manson.php photoshoot with his father]], Hugh Warner. This was soon after his mother died, and there was also [[http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/18/marilyn-manson-i-created-a-fake-world this interview]], where they bonded over ApocalypseNow.Film/ApocalypseNow. His father is a Vietnam vet, and one of the people who dropped Agent Orange on Vietnam.
11th Sep '17 8:12:15 PM SPBurke
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* DorkAge: Fans were put off somewhat by the lovelorn "Eat Me, Drink Me," and following it up with the average-sounding "High End of Low" and "Born Villain." The positive reception to "The Pale Emperor" and his collaboration with Tyler Bates shows Manson may be coming out of this though.
20th Apr '17 7:26:59 AM Anddrix
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* HellIsThatNoise: "In the Shadow of the Valley of Death" opens with the sound of a woman and a baby screaming, accompanied by gunfire.
25th Feb '17 8:57:48 PM wyattte
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** ''Eat Me, Drink Me'' is a ''hell'' of a BaseBreaker. Manson's post-divorce album, recorded solely with Tim Skold and filled with a plethora of confessional lyrics, was either an interesting new frontier, or a messy mid-life crisis on record, depending on who you talk to.



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* CreepyAwesomeCreepyAwesome: And he only got creepier!



** Daisy Berkowitz was the first guitarist and co-founder of the band, but clashed with Manson and Twiggy during the Smells Like Children tour and ended up leaving halfway through the recording of the second album, ''Antichrist Superstar''.

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** Daisy Berkowitz was the first guitarist and co-founder of the band, but clashed with Manson and Twiggy during the Smells ''Smells Like Children Children'' tour and ended up leaving halfway through the recording of the second album, ''Antichrist Superstar''.
13th Dec '16 7:27:09 PM nanshe
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* FoeYay: Manson and his first guitarist, Daisy Berkowitz, never missed a chance to be nasty about each other, whether it's bashing each other in interviews or dragging the other into court for any reason. Not to mention that Manson's autobiography is peppered with constant denigrating comments about Daisy's sex life. Yet, amazingly enough, as of November 2011 Daisy and Marilyn have reconciled and are on speaking terms again.

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* FoeYay: Manson and his first guitarist, guitarist and co-founder, Daisy Berkowitz, never missed a chance to be nasty about each other, whether it's Berkowitz. Big time. Their long habit of bashing each other in interviews or and dragging the each other into court for any reason. Not to mention that reason makes them sound like a divorced couple fighting over custody of their only child (which, in a way, they sort of are.) Most of this would be pretty standard, but for some reason, Manson's autobiography is also peppered with constant denigrating comments about Daisy's sex life. Yet, amazingly enough, as of November 2011 Daisy and Marilyn have reconciled and are on speaking terms again.life which is, um, interesting.


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* ThePeteBest: No less than five examples, the last three of whom ended up suing.
** Olivia Newton Bundy and [=ZsaZsa Speck=] were the first bassist and keyboardist, but wrote nothing and only played a few shows before quitting to form another band.
** Gidget Gein was the second bassist and co-wrote a number of the songs, but his addiction to heroin got him kicked out of the band. He played on the first album, ''Portrait of an American Family'', but never toured. He later became an artist, but [[AuthorExistenceFailure died of an overdose]] in 2008.
** Sara Lee Lucas was the first drummer, but came into conflict with Manson. He was set on fire during one show and left without saying goodbye.
** Daisy Berkowitz was the first guitarist and co-founder of the band, but clashed with Manson and Twiggy during the Smells Like Children tour and ended up leaving halfway through the recording of the second album, ''Antichrist Superstar''.
4th Dec '16 11:01:03 AM Sakubara
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* UnsettlingGenderReveal: Many MoralGuardians were surprised that he was not a '''very''' [[ContraltoOfDanger deep voiced]] [[DudeLooksLikeALady woman]]. This did give them [[HeteronormativeCrusader more reasons to hate him]] though.
2nd Sep '16 2:20:33 PM Sakubara
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* BishonenLine: Over the course of Music/AntichristSuperstar The Worm went through a metamorphosis from [[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c1/b3/1a/c1b31a76becf0a612e4010a5f73ef3c9.jpg a weird worm-human hybrid]] to possibly [[http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0002/210/MI0002210129.jpg?partner=allrovi.com a mothman]] into finally an[[http://www.mansonwiki.com/w/images/5/58/TheDisintegrator.PNG evil angel]].

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* BishonenLine: Over the course of Music/AntichristSuperstar The Worm went through a metamorphosis from [[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c1/b3/1a/c1b31a76becf0a612e4010a5f73ef3c9.jpg a weird worm-human hybrid]] to possibly [[http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0002/210/MI0002210129.jpg?partner=allrovi.com a mothman]] into finally an[[http://www.[[http://www.mansonwiki.com/w/images/5/58/TheDisintegrator.PNG an evil angel]].
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