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** Heaven Upside Down: "WE KNOW WHERE YOU FUCKING LIVE" or "KILL4ME."

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** Heaven Upside Down: "WE KNOW WHERE YOU FUCKING LIVE" or "KILL4ME."[=KILL4ME=]."
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* HilariousInHindsight: The song "Wrapped In Plastic" features a sample from the Creator/DavidLynch series ''Series/TwinPeaks''. The band would later make an appearance on the soundtrack for ''Film/LostHighway'', another Lynch project, and Manson himself and Twiggy also made cameos in the film itself.
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* WidgetSeries: The band's imagery is in equal parts shock value and "WTF?", between crossdressing, makeup, androgyny, and surreal artwork, plus a fair share of WordSaladLyrics.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Marilyn Manson, so much so that the whole band is named after him.
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* MisaimedFandom: "This is the New Shit" was written as a satire on artists who make shallow DarkerAndEdgier work because they think [[TrueArtIsAngsty it's automatically more "grown-up" or "deeper"]], and fans who unthinkingly embrace that perspective. Inevitably, it got many fans who didn't see the sarcasm.

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* MisaimedFandom: "This is the New Shit" was written as a satire on artists who make shallow DarkerAndEdgier work because they think [[TrueArtIsAngsty it's automatically more "grown-up" or "deeper"]], "deeper", and fans who unthinkingly embrace that perspective. Inevitably, it got many fans who didn't see the sarcasm.

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* VindicatedByHistory: Website/{{Wikipedia}} says it best:

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** When Music/SmellsLikeChildren was first released, it received average reviews at best and negative reviews at worst (aside from the band’s iconic "Sweet Dreams" cover, of course.) However, after the release of Music/AntichristSuperstar, people started understanding that the EP was just supposed to be a bridge between the two albums, and some of the other tracks (particularly the covers of "I Put A Spell On You" and "Rock N Roll Nigger") started getting more appreciation from fans.
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* SongAssociation: Among others, "The Beautiful People" was used as the theme music for ''Wrestling/WWESmackDown'' from 2001 to 2003, and "Killing Strangers" was used prominently in ''Film/JohnWick''.

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* SongAssociation: Among others, "The Beautiful People" was used as the theme music for ''Wrestling/WWESmackDown'' from 2001 to 2003, and "Killing Strangers" was used prominently in ''Film/JohnWick''. In addition, "Rock Is Dead" and "This Is The New Shit" appeared on the soundtracks for the [[Film/TheMatrix first]] and [[Film/TheMatrixReloaded second]] Franchise/TheMatrix movies, respectively. "Rock Is Dead" also appeared in the credits for the first movie, and the single was made to promote the film.

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* SignatureSong: Either "The Beautiful People" or the band's cover of "Sweet Dreams".

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* SignatureSong: Either By album:
** Music/PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily: Cake And Sodomy, Lunchbox, or Dope Hat.
** Music/SmellsLikeChildren: "[[Music/{{Eurythmics}} Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)]]," "[[Music/ScreaminJayHawkins I Put A Spell On You]]," or "[[Music/PattiSmith Rock N Roll Nigger]]."
** Music/AntichristSuperstar: "Irresponsible Hate Anthem,"
"The Beautiful People," "Tourniquet," or the TitleTrack.
** Remix & Repent: "The Horrible
People" or "The Tourniquet Prosthetic."
** Music/MechanicalAnimals: "The Dope Show," "Rock Is Dead," or "I Don’t Like The Drugs (But The Drugs Like Me)."
** [[Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath Holy Wood]]: "The Love Song," "The Fight Song," "Disposable Teens," or "The Nobodies."
** The Golden Age Of Grotesque: "This Is The New Shit," "mOBSCENE," or "(s)AINT."
** Eat Me, Drink Me: The TitleTrack, "Heart Shaped Glasses," or "If I Was Your Vampire."
** The High End Of Low: "Arma-Goddamn-Motherfuckin-Geddon," "Running To The Edge Of The World," or "WOW."
** Born Villain: "No Reflection" or "Slo-Mo-Tion."
** The Pale Emperor: "Killing Strangers," "Deep Six," or "The Mephistopheles Of Los Angeles."
** Heaven Upside Down: "WE KNOW WHERE YOU FUCKING LIVE" or "KILL4ME."
** WE ARE CHAOS: "RED BLACK AND BLUE," the TitleTrack, or "DON’T CHASE THE DEAD."
*** Overall: Five-way tie between "The Beautiful People,"
the band's cover of "Sweet Dreams".Dreams," "The Dope Show," "Disposable Teens," and "Long Hard Road Out Of Hell" from the Film/{{Spawn}} soundtrack. A sixth contender could be "Rock Is Dead," due to being a concert staple and appearing in Film/TheMatrix.
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many MoralGuardians were surprised that he was not a '''very''' [[ContraltoOfDanger deep-voiced]] [[DudeLooksLikeALady woman]]. This did give them more reasons to hate him, though.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many MoralGuardians were surprised that he was not a '''very''' [[ContraltoOfDanger deep-voiced]] deep-voiced [[DudeLooksLikeALady woman]]. This did give them more reasons to hate him, though.
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* VindicatedByHistory: Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} says it best:

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* VindicatedByHistory: Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} Website/{{Wikipedia}} says it best:
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* FaceOfTheBand: Marilyn Manson, [[UpToEleven so much so]] that the whole band is named after him.

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* FaceOfTheBand: Marilyn Manson, [[UpToEleven so much so]] so that the whole band is named after him.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: There is popular urban legend that Manson had his lower ribs surgically removed so he could perform fellatio on himself, but the whole idea of such a surgery is a concept that pre-dates him. In fact, everything seems to indicate that this kind of urban legend started with rumors that the Italian poet and proto-Fascist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_D%27Annunzio Gabriele D'Annunzio]] (1863-1938) should have had this procedure done, and some sources outright suggest that it was D'Annunzio himself who started these rumors as a publicity stunt.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: They were one of the most controversial artists in the 1990s, and their music and stage act resulted in everything from protests at concerts to being blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre. Even rock stations were hesitant to play their music at the height of their popularity. Nowadays, outside of their fanbase, more people know the group for their reputation than for any of their actual music. Manson himself tends to have a revolving door of musicians due to being very publicly difficult to work with (ranging from Twiggy’s first time leaving the band due to refusing to change his hair to pulling a knife on Tyler Bates while on tour), although he has acknowledged his own faults and admitted to his generally poor mental health. Despite this, some of his more public fights, like Music/RobZombie and Tyler Bates, have maintained relationships with him despite their conflicts, Zombie touring with him for several more years after their first co-headlining tour led to them fighting both backstage and Zombie raging against him on stage. After several years of quiet, the band once again made headlines in the late 2010s when bassist Twiggy Ramirez was implicated in a scandal as part of the [=#MeToo=] movement (with Ramirez leaving the band), which was made worse when Manson himself was exposed by ex-fiancée Creator/EvanRachelWood and several other women as being abusive towards them, resulting in a public backlash towards Manson that resulted in him being dropped from his record label and agency.
* SignatureSong: "The Beautiful People" is Manson's calling card to this day. "The Fight Song" also counts.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: They were OvershadowedByControversy:
** Manson's band was
one of the most controversial artists musical acts in the 1990s, and their music and stage act resulted in everything from protests at concerts to being blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre. Even rock stations were hesitant to play their music at the height of their popularity. popularity.
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Nowadays, outside of their fanbase, more people know the group for their reputation than for any of their actual music. music.
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Manson himself tends to have a revolving door of musicians due to being very publicly difficult to work with (ranging from Twiggy’s first time leaving the band due to refusing to change his hair to pulling a knife on Tyler Bates while on tour), although he has acknowledged his own faults and admitted to his generally poor mental health. Despite this, some of his more public fights, like Music/RobZombie and Tyler Bates, have maintained relationships with him despite their conflicts, Zombie touring with him for several more years after their first co-headlining tour led to them fighting both backstage and Zombie raging against him on stage. stage.
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After several years of quiet, the band once again made headlines in the late 2010s when bassist Twiggy Ramirez was implicated in a scandal as part of the [=#MeToo=] movement (with Ramirez leaving the band), which was made worse when Manson himself was exposed by the center of abuse allegations from ex-fiancée Creator/EvanRachelWood and several other women as being abusive towards them, women, resulting in a public backlash towards Manson him that resulted in him being dropped from his record label and agency.
* SignatureSong: Either "The Beautiful People" is Manson's calling card to this day. or the band's cover of "Sweet Dreams".
* SongAssociation: Among others,
"The Fight Song" also counts.Beautiful People" was used as the theme music for ''Wrestling/WWESmackDown'' from 2001 to 2003, and "Killing Strangers" was used prominently in ''Film/JohnWick''.



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many MoralGuardians were surprised that he was not a '''very''' [[ContraltoOfDanger deep voiced]] [[DudeLooksLikeALady woman]]. This did give them more reasons to hate him though.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many MoralGuardians were surprised that he was not a '''very''' [[ContraltoOfDanger deep voiced]] deep-voiced]] [[DudeLooksLikeALady woman]]. This did give them more reasons to hate him him, though.

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