History YMMV / MacrossFrontier

7th Mar '18 4:27:52 PM nombretomado
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* ShipToShipCombat: Alto/Ranka vs Alto/Sheryl. So vicious that the only acceptable outcome is the ''[[TotalAnnihilation complete elimination]]'' of the other. [[TakeAThirdOption Well]]... [[OT3 sort of]].

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* ShipToShipCombat: Alto/Ranka vs Alto/Sheryl. So vicious that the only acceptable outcome is the ''[[TotalAnnihilation ''[[VideoGame/TotalAnnihilation complete elimination]]'' of the other. [[TakeAThirdOption Well]]... [[OT3 sort of]].
9th Feb '18 10:30:30 AM lalaTKG
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* Ranka is also a bit of a deconstruction (arguably) with the Moe points she has, though not to the extent of Klan. Namely, despite her cuteness, it does not stop her from making decisions that are less than impressive to some viewers.

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* ** Ranka is also a bit of a deconstruction (arguably) with the Moe points she has, though not to the extent of Klan. Namely, despite her cuteness, it does not stop her from making decisions that are less than impressive to some viewers.
6th Jul '17 2:27:33 AM abscake
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* InternetBackdraft: Do not and I repeat do not bring up Ranka's character development, or her behavior, actions or lack thereof over the course of the TV series in any Macross Forum. You will start a war. Movie Ranka is safe though.
** If you think this was bad, [[{{Foreshadowing}} just wait]] till more people see the second movie. Kawamori, YouBastard!
** also, discussing what's canon and non-canon due to the interviews is really... troubling, considering [[http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2585414#post2585414 "the fake Kawamori" interviews deal.]]

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* InternetBackdraft: Do not and I repeat do not bring up Ranka's character development, or her behavior, actions or lack thereof over the course of the TV series in any Macross Forum. You will start a war. Movie Ranka is safe though.
** If you think this was bad, Think that's bad? [[{{Foreshadowing}} just wait]] till more people see the second movie. Kawamori, YouBastard!
** also, Also, discussing what's canon and non-canon due to the interviews is really... troubling, considering [[http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2585414#post2585414 "the fake Kawamori" interviews deal.]]



* {{Moe}}: Ranka is this to some degree. Klan also appears at first to be a moeblob otaku fetish object of a character, but she ends up being a deconstruction of the type.\\
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She is also a bit of a deconstruction with the Moe points she has, though not to the extent of Klan. Namely, despite her cuteness, it does not stop her from making decisions that are less than impressive to some viewers.

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* {{Moe}}: Ranka is this to some degree. Klan also appears at first to be a moeblob otaku fetish object of a character, but she ends up largely being a deconstruction of the type.\\
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is also a bit of a deconstruction (arguably) with the Moe points she has, though not to the extent of Klan. Namely, despite her cuteness, it does not stop her from making decisions that are less than impressive to some viewers.



** It's even worse when both sides start using SlutShaming against the other. Sheryl/Alto fans say that Ranka is a barely legal skank and jail bait who uses her cute looks to attract Alto so he won't choose a "Stronger, Perfect And Better Developed Real Woman" like Sheryl, while Ranka/Alto fans retort that Sheryl's {{Stripperiffic}} outfits and large breasts make her a slut who would rape Alto if she could unlike sweet and poor and flatchested Ranka.

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** It's even worse when both sides start using SlutShaming against the other. Sheryl/Alto fans say that Ranka is a barely legal skank and jail bait who uses her cute looks to attract Alto so he won't choose a "Stronger, Perfect And Better Developed Real Woman" like Sheryl, while Ranka/Alto fans retort that Sheryl's {{Stripperiffic}} outfits and large breasts make her a slut who would rape Alto if she could unlike sweet and poor and flatchested Ranka.
21st Jun '17 2:14:04 AM abscake
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* CrazyAwesome: From ''[[TheMovie The Wings of Goodbye]]'', I give you [[HumongousMecha Macross]] [[TransformingMecha Quarter's]] [[SkySurfing Big Wednesday]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uULjjKgHPkE Formation]].

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* CrazyAwesome: From ''[[TheMovie The Wings of Goodbye]]'', I give you here's [[HumongousMecha Macross]] [[TransformingMecha Quarter's]] [[SkySurfing Big Wednesday]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uULjjKgHPkE Formation]].
26th Jan '17 10:36:07 AM Wyldchyld
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* FetishFuelStationAttendant: Klan Klan is a deconstruction of this.
1st Nov '16 5:11:45 AM EDP
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* {{HSQ}}: OverNineThousand. This is the Macross series' answer to ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. Just one example: for this series' appearance of the [[EnsembleDarkHorse Monster]] they had the on-screen debut of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfpxki_7ocE Konig Monster]].

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* {{HSQ}}: OverNineThousand. This is the Macross series' answer to ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. Just one example: for this series' appearance of the [[EnsembleDarkHorse Monster]] they had the on-screen debut of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfpxki_7ocE Konig Monster]].Monster]] (notably, it caused this reaction ''in-universe'' when Alto realized ''what'' the shuttle called [[FluffyTheTerrible Rabbit 1]] really was).
18th Oct '16 4:34:24 PM EDP
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* {{HSQ}}: OverNineThousand. This is the Macross series' answer to ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''.

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* {{HSQ}}: OverNineThousand. This is the Macross series' answer to ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. Just one example: for this series' appearance of the [[EnsembleDarkHorse Monster]] they had the on-screen debut of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfpxki_7ocE Konig Monster]].
30th Jul '16 11:46:27 PM BatmanKalEl
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* BadassDecay: The Ghost V-9 drones, the mass-production model of the deadly Ghost X-9 of ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', which could singlehandedly dogfight two {{Ace Pilot}}s in {{Super Prototype}}s to a standstill,) are reduced to being mere EliteMooks in the final battle of ''Frontier''. To be fair, it has been almost 20 years since the events of Macross Plus, with requisite advantages in technology. Besides, you still never see one get taken out by a human pilot - the only thing that is shown actually standing up to Galaxy's V-9s are Luca's own AIF-7S's once released to full AI control. Also, as soon as all of the non-hero pilots see them, they instantly crap their pants and are shown getting blown up rather quickly.



* VillainDecay: The Ghost V-9 drones, the mass-production model of the deadly Ghost X-9 of ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', which could singlehandedly dogfight two {{Ace Pilot}}s in {{Super Prototype}}s to a standstill,) are reduced to being mere EliteMooks in the final battle of ''Frontier''. To be fair, it has been almost 20 years since the events of Macross Plus, with requisite advantages in technology. Besides, you still never see one get taken out by a human pilot - the only thing that is shown actually standing up to Galaxy's V-9s are Luca's own AIF-7S's once released to full AI control. Also, as soon as all of the non-hero pilots see them, they instantly crap their pants and are shown getting blown up rather quickly.
30th Jul '16 11:45:27 PM BatmanKalEl
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* ShipSinking: The writers ''finally'' made an effort to shut up the Alto/Ranka and Alto/Sheryl shippers in the movies by [[spoiler:having Alto ultimately pick Sheryl over Ranka]].
23rd Jun '16 7:35:36 PM ANewMan
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* [[HesJustHiding He's Just Hiding]]: Movie-verse only for [[spoiler:Alto and Sheryl.]] Fans questioned whether or not they were dead due to the ambiguity of the ending, but [[WordOfGod Kawamori]] clarified that [[spoiler:they both survived: Sheryl was in a coma for a while but woke up, while Alto returned to the Frontier Fleet after a bit. Kawamori even expressed shock that anyone thought the two of them ended up dead, as this was apparently not even remotely what he was trying to imply.]]



* [[HesJustHiding He's Just Hiding]]: Movie-verse only for [[spoiler:Alto and Sheryl.]] Fans questioned whether or not they were dead due to the ambiguity of the ending, but [[WordOfGod Kawamori]] clarified that [[spoiler:they both survived: Sheryl was in a coma for a while but woke up, while Alto returned to the Frontier Fleet after a bit. Kawamori even expressed shock that anyone thought the two of them ended up dead, as this was apparently not even remotely what he was trying to imply.]]
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