History YMMV / MacrossFrontier

2nd Dec '15 1:38:51 PM DarkHunter
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* [[spoiler: [[HesJustHiding He's Just Hiding]]. Alto Saotome's fate in the end of Sayonara no Tsubasa]]: Movie-verse only. ** [[spoiler: And in Sheryl's case it's "She's Just Sleeping", though this is slightly more justified, as she visibly stirs at the end.]]
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* [[spoiler: [[HesJustHiding He's Just Hiding]]. Alto Saotome's fate in the end of Sayonara no Tsubasa]]: Hiding]]: Movie-verse only. ** [[spoiler: And only for [[spoiler:Alto and Sheryl.]] Fans questioned whether or not they were dead due to the ambiguity of the ending, but [[WordOfGod Kawamori]] clarified that [[spoiler:they both survived: Sheryl was in Sheryl's case it's "She's Just Sleeping", though a coma for a while but woke up, while Alto returned to the Frontier Fleet after a bit. Kawamori even expressed shock that anyone thought the two of them ended up dead, as this is slightly more justified, as she visibly stirs at the end.was apparently not even remotely what he was trying to imply.]]
21st Nov '15 7:56:53 AM ANewMan
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** It's even worse when both sides start using SlutShaming against the other. Sheryl/Alto fans say that Ranka is a barely legal skank and jail bait who uses her cute looks to attract Alto so he won't choose a "Stronger, Perfect And Better Developed Real Woman" like Sheryl, while Ranka/Alto fans retort that Sheryl's {{Stripperiffic}} outfits and large breasts make her a slut who would rape Alto if hse could unlike sweet and poor and flatchested Ranka.
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** It's even worse when both sides start using SlutShaming against the other. Sheryl/Alto fans say that Ranka is a barely legal skank and jail bait who uses her cute looks to attract Alto so he won't choose a "Stronger, Perfect And Better Developed Real Woman" like Sheryl, while Ranka/Alto fans retort that Sheryl's {{Stripperiffic}} outfits and large breasts make her a slut who would rape Alto if hse she could unlike sweet and poor and flatchested Ranka.
5th Nov '15 4:55:09 PM nombretomado
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* {{Narm}}: In episode 19, Ranka is running upstairs to the launch deck, [[spoiler:elated because she thinks Alto loves her, when she suddenly barges in on Alto comforting Sheryl (who had collapsed due to [[IllGirl her illness]], but Ranka doesn't know about that).]] On the one hand, it's sad to see poor, brokenhearted Ranka stand there, saying, "It can't be..." with a frozen smile on her face. On the other, it becomes hilarious when one remembers that this is Alto ''[[RanmaOneHalf Saotome]]'', and that [[NamesTheSame his predecessor]] was often caught in ''the exact same situations'', with ''the exact same results''. Ranka should have screamed "I HATE YOU, ALTO!" and [[MegatonPunch punch him into the distance]].
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* {{Narm}}: In episode 19, Ranka is running upstairs to the launch deck, [[spoiler:elated because she thinks Alto loves her, when she suddenly barges in on Alto comforting Sheryl (who had collapsed due to [[IllGirl her illness]], but Ranka doesn't know about that).]] On the one hand, it's sad to see poor, brokenhearted Ranka stand there, saying, "It can't be..." with a frozen smile on her face. On the other, it becomes hilarious when one remembers that this is Alto ''[[RanmaOneHalf ''[[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Saotome]]'', and that [[NamesTheSame his predecessor]] was often caught in ''the exact same situations'', with ''the exact same results''. Ranka should have screamed "I HATE YOU, ALTO!" and [[MegatonPunch punch him into the distance]].
30th Oct '15 7:54:39 AM Hollowgolem
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome [[spoiler:Michel]]'s death scene set to "Diamond Crevasse." Bonus for also being a hell of a TearJerker as well.
30th Oct '15 7:35:57 AM Hollowgolem
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome [[spoiler:Michel]]'s death scene set to "Diamond Crevasse." Bonus for also being a hell of a TearJerker as well.
9th Jul '15 5:05:33 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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* VillainDecay: The Ghost V-9 drones, the mass-production model of the deadly Ghost X-9 of ''MacrossPlus'', which could singlehandedly dogfight two {{Ace Pilot}}s in {{Super Prototype}}s to a standstill,) are reduced to being mere EliteMooks in the final battle of ''Frontier''. To be fair, it has been almost 20 years since the events of Macross Plus, with requisite advantages in technology. Besides, you still never see one get taken out by a human pilot - the only thing that is shown actually standing up to Galaxy's V-9s are Luca's own AIF-7S's once released to full AI control. Also, as soon as all of the non-hero pilots see them, they instantly crap their pants and are shown getting blown up rather quickly.
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* VillainDecay: The Ghost V-9 drones, the mass-production model of the deadly Ghost X-9 of ''MacrossPlus'', ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', which could singlehandedly dogfight two {{Ace Pilot}}s in {{Super Prototype}}s to a standstill,) are reduced to being mere EliteMooks in the final battle of ''Frontier''. To be fair, it has been almost 20 years since the events of Macross Plus, with requisite advantages in technology. Besides, you still never see one get taken out by a human pilot - the only thing that is shown actually standing up to Galaxy's V-9s are Luca's own AIF-7S's once released to full AI control. Also, as soon as all of the non-hero pilots see them, they instantly crap their pants and are shown getting blown up rather quickly.
31st May '15 4:51:29 PM TheNerfGuy
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* MoeMoe: Ranka is this to some degree. Klan also appears at first to be a moeblob otaku fetish object of a character, but she ends up being a deconstruction of the type. ** Ranka is also a bit of a deconstruction with the Moe points she has, though not to the extent of Klan. Namely, despite her cuteness, it does not stop her from making decisions that are less than impressive to some viewers.
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* MoeMoe: {{Moe}}: Ranka is this to some degree. Klan also appears at first to be a moeblob otaku fetish object of a character, but she ends up being a deconstruction of the type. ** Ranka type.\\ \\ She is also a bit of a deconstruction with the Moe points she has, though not to the extent of Klan. Namely, despite her cuteness, it does not stop her from making decisions that are less than impressive to some viewers.
28th May '15 1:49:26 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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*** He can get a new one! He's used to it blowing up on him! It's like [[InvaderZim GIRxPiggy]]!
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*** He can get a new one! He's used to it blowing up on him! It's like [[InvaderZim [[WesternAnimation/InvaderZim GIRxPiggy]]!
21st Mar '15 9:27:19 AM CelPrevXXVI
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* CrazyAwesome: From ''[[TheMovie Sayonara no Tsubasa]]'', I give you [[HumongousMecha Macross]] [[TransformingMecha Quarter's]] [[SkySurfing Big Wednesday]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uULjjKgHPkE Formation]].
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* CrazyAwesome: From ''[[TheMovie Sayonara no Tsubasa]]'', The Wings of Goodbye]]'', I give you [[HumongousMecha Macross]] [[TransformingMecha Quarter's]] [[SkySurfing Big Wednesday]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uULjjKgHPkE Formation]].
14th Mar '15 8:15:09 AM ACW
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Already approved by the thread; just tweaked.
* CompleteMonster: Grace O'Connor, who uses a fleet of millions of people as tools to [[TakeOverTheWorld take over the galaxy]]. [[spoiler:The ultimate plan is to MindControl a race of beings (the Vajra) in order to subjugate the ''other'' race of beings (Humans and Zentradi) and give them all the ultimatum of MindControl implants or ''death'', in effect enslaving the ''entire galaxy'' not just physically, but mentally as well. Yet despite all this, possibly her greatest crime is what she did to one little girl. She murdered her parents, tormented her on the streets where she was homeless and alone, and finally used her in an experiment that causes extreme pain, and assuming she didn't die like the previous eight subjects, [[YourDaysAreNumbered she would still die in ten years]]. Her name was Sheryl Nome. She was seven years old. Grace becomes something of a tragic case, as she comes to admit to herself that over the ten years she raised Sheryl, she came to care very deeply for her. She decides these feelings are probably going to get in the way of her mission and deletes them in what could be considered a very subtle but all the more damning crossing of the MoralEventHorizon]].
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* CompleteMonster: MadScientist [[BigBad Grace O'Connor, who O'Connor]] uses a fleet of millions of people as tools to [[TakeOverTheWorld take over the galaxy]]. [[spoiler:The Her [[AssimilationPlot ultimate plan plan]] is to MindControl a race of beings (the Vajra) in order to subjugate the ''other'' another race of beings (Humans and Zentradi) and give them all the ultimatum of MindControl implants or ''death'', death, in effect enslaving the ''entire galaxy'' entire galaxy not just physically, but mentally as well. Yet despite Despite all this, possibly her greatest crime is what she did to one little girl. [[WouldHurtAChild seven-year-old girl]] named Sheryl Nome . She murdered her parents, tormented her on the streets where she was homeless and alone, and finally used her in an experiment that causes extreme pain, and assuming even if she didn't die like the previous eight subjects, [[YourDaysAreNumbered she would still die in ten years]]. Her name was Sheryl Nome. She was seven years old. Grace becomes something of a tragic case, as she comes to admit to herself that over the ten years she raised Sheryl, she came to care very deeply for her. She However, she decides that these feelings are probably going to get in the way of her mission and [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul deletes them them]] in what could be considered a very subtle but all the more damning crossing of the MoralEventHorizon]].MoralEventHorizon (this is changed in the movie).
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