History YMMV / Loveless

29th Mar '16 8:01:17 PM kyberserafino
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** The ear piercing scene in episode 3 of the anime was...interesting, to say the least.
6th Feb '16 11:31:31 AM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: For both Music/MyBloodyValentine and ShoeGazing as a whole.
19th Aug '15 4:31:56 PM Hugpocalypse
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** Soubi too, especially once his backstory comes into play.

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** Soubi too, especially once his backstory comes into play.play.

!!!''Loveless'', the album:

* EarWorm: "To Here Knows When", "Soon"
* MagnumOpus: For both Music/MyBloodyValentine and ShoeGazing as a whole.
* ToughActToFollow: Notorious for being this to the entire genre. Averted with ''m b v'', which is widely considered as a worthy followup to ''Loveless'', even after [[SequelGap 22 years of waiting]].
20th Jul '14 3:33:00 PM AsleepInTheBooks
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** Considering the fact that Kouya had fake cat ears she put on around her schoolmates, there probably is a market for it.
18th May '14 3:27:25 AM Discontent
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* NeedsMoreLove: It's ignored by most [[YaoiFangirl yaoi fangirls]] for its complex story and lack of gratuitous FanService, while it's sometimes snubbed by more serious shonen-ai fans, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch who make assumptions]] based on the {{Shotacon}} and cat ears. To make matters worse, the fanfiction makes the story seem based entirely on {{Shotacon}} and S&M.
** There are [[YaoiFangirl some of us]] out there who gave it a shot and were quite frankly disturbed by certain elements of the story despite enjoying the admittedly tasty, if muted, fanservice and delightfully complex romances.
*** There are also fans who were just as disturbed that aren't in it for the romance, or the romance alone. There are fans who actually enjoy the story and understand that it goes far beyond being a typical romance story. There's a ''reason'' one of its genres is Psychological. The plot of this series wasn't meant for just romance, so people looking for a FanService series are not going to find they're looking for here. That was not its intention. Romance is included, but is not the only focus. The romance also has a powerful habit of tying into the psychology part of it.
24th Sep '13 5:13:19 AM StFan
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!!!''Loveless'' manga:
20th Aug '13 11:56:27 AM TVRulezAgain
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* CompleteMonster: Holy CRAP, [[spoiler: Seimei]], you're a shithead. And [[spoiler:Nisei]], you're just as bad.
19th Aug '13 2:26:03 PM MikoGalatea
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** The cute art style and fairly non-explicit relationship between Ritsuka and Soubi leads to a lot of younger fans mistaking it for something sweet and fluffy -- often completely missing the point that the series, and in particular Ritsuka and Soubi's relationship, is supposed to be quite disturbing. (After all, Ritsuka is ''twelve years old'', and Soubi is pushing him into a romantic relationship because [[spoiler: Ritsuka's own ''brother'' told him to]].)



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: The cute art style and fairly non-explicit relationship between Ritsuka and Soubi leads a lot of young teenage girls to read it - often completely missing the point that the series, and in particular Ritsuka and Soubi's relationship, is supposed to be quite disturbing. (After all, Ritsuka is ''twelve years old'', and Soubi is pushing him into a romantic relationship because [[spoiler: Ritsuka's own ''brother'' told him to]].)
** Can tie into MoralDissonance once young fangirls start thinking that a child's relationship with a masochistic pedophile is just adorable.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: The cute art style and fairly non-explicit relationship between Ritsuka and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: At one point Soubi leads gets a lot of young teenage girls ''nail'' through his hand and is forced to read pull it - often completely missing out. That and the point fact that the series, and in particular Ritsuka and Soubi's relationship, is supposed to be quite disturbing. (After all, Ritsuka is ''twelve years old'', and Soubi is pushing he's accused of being a masochist several times makes one wonder if this was intentional. No CrucifiedHeroShot on him into a romantic relationship because [[spoiler: Ritsuka's own ''brother'' told him to]].)
yet, though.
** Can tie into MoralDissonance once young fangirls start thinking that a child's relationship with a masochistic pedophile is just adorable.Butterflies, anyone?
30th Jun '13 1:51:31 PM MikoGalatea
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* CompleteMonster: Holy CRAP, [[spoiler: Seimei]], you're a shithead.
* DieForOurShip: Poor Yuiko. She's constantly bashed for having a crush on Ritsuka, even though she never acts on these feelings. She even encourages Soubi and Ritsuka's relationship from the beginning (earning a SheIsNotMyGirlfriend reaction from Ritsuka). However, she is somehow seen to a threat to their relationship, and fanfiction turns her into a CompleteMonster hellbent on destroying their relationship.
* DracoInLeatherPants: It's hard to find a male character who DOESN'T go through this, but Ritsu, Nisei, and [[spoiler: Seimei]] are the most frequent. While not villainous, Soubi is often stripped of his flaws to become a saint in {{Fanon}}.
** [[spoiler:Semei]] is given this treatment often. [[spoiler: The manga-ka is TELLING the reader he's a psychopath!]]

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* CompleteMonster: Holy CRAP, [[spoiler: Seimei]], you're a shithead.
shithead. And [[spoiler:Nisei]], you're just as bad.
* DieForOurShip: Poor Yuiko. She's constantly bashed and demonised for having a crush on Ritsuka, even though she never acts on these feelings. She even encourages Soubi and Ritsuka's relationship from the beginning (earning a SheIsNotMyGirlfriend reaction from Ritsuka). However, she Ritsuka) and is shown to [[IntergenerationalFriendship be friends with Soubi as well]], and yet she's ''still'' somehow seen to a threat to their relationship, and fanfiction turns her into a CompleteMonster hellbent on destroying their relationship.
* DracoInLeatherPants: It's hard to find a male character who DOESN'T go through this, but Ritsu, Nisei, and [[spoiler: Seimei]] are the most frequent. While frequent, despite the manga practically spelling out the fact that the last person is a psychopath. And while not villainous, Soubi is often stripped of his flaws to become a saint in {{Fanon}}.
** [[spoiler:Semei]] is given this treatment often. [[spoiler: The manga-ka is TELLING the reader he's a psychopath!]]
total saint.



** It could very well be that the book Seimei recounted so offhandedly in volume 8 was actually [[spoiler: a retelling of what happened to Mikado in volume 10.]]

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** It could very well be that the book Seimei recounted so offhandedly in volume 8 was actually [[spoiler: a retelling of what happened to Mikado in volume 10.11.]]



** The SlutShaming concept in this universe. On the one hand it'd be hard to slut shame someone who still has her ears. On the other anyone without their ears, no matter how they lost them, is now fair game. And the worst types would de-ear the person themselves, whether the person wanted to or not.

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** The SlutShaming concept in this universe. On the one hand hand, it'd be hard to slut shame someone who still has her ears. their ears (though conversely, poor Shinonome is ridiculed early on for still having hers as an adult, showing that virgin-shaming is a thing as well). On the other hand, anyone without their ears, no matter how they lost them, is now fair game. And the worst types would de-ear the person themselves, whether the person wanted to or not.



* HoYay: Ooh boy, where do we start? [[{{Shotacon}} Soubi and Ristsuka]], Soubi and Kio, [[MindRape Soubi and Seimei]], Soubi and Ritsu-sensei (one-sided, admittedly).

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* HoYay: Ooh boy, where do we start? [[{{Shotacon}} Soubi and Ristsuka]], Ritsuka]], Soubi and Kio, [[MindRape Soubi and Seimei]], Soubi and Ritsu-sensei (one-sided, admittedly).



* MindGameShip: Any ship involving [[spoiler:Seimei.]]
** People who ship [[spoiler:Seimei]] and Ritsuka as a normal couple are known to be part of the MisaimedFandom, seen below.

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* MindGameShip: Any ship involving [[spoiler:Seimei.]]
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[[spoiler:Seimei]]. People who ship [[spoiler:Seimei]] him and Ritsuka as a normal couple are known to be part of the MisaimedFandom, seen below.



* RonTheDeathEater: Yuiko is a constant victim of this. If she was [[DoubleStandard male]], though, she'd probably be part of an {{OT3}}.
** This has reached such extremes... that a now infamous scanlator team kept calling Yuiko "stupid", "bitch", "slut" and saying "why don't you kill yourself now" ''in their foot notes''.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Yuiko is a constant victim of this. If she was [[DoubleStandard male]], though, she'd probably be part of an {{OT3}}.
** This has reached such extremes...
this, to the extreme that a now one infamous scanlator team kept calling Yuiko her "stupid", "bitch", "slut" and saying "why don't you kill yourself now" ''in their foot notes''.



** Soubi too, especially once his backstory comes into play.
* TeenGenius: Ritsuka's therapist who is 21 or lying about her age.

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** Soubi too, especially once his backstory comes into play.
* TeenGenius: Ritsuka's therapist who is 21 or lying about her age.
play.
21st May '13 2:04:31 AM xHoneythief
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The virgins-got-cat-ears thing really could have been used much more. It would have made for some interesting stories, and it would be fun to see how it affected society.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The virgins-got-cat-ears thing really could have been used for much more. It would have made for some interesting stories, and it would be fun to see how it affected society. How would it affect teenage sex? How would it affect paedophilia? Would there be an entire market for fake cat ears? The possibilities go on.
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