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** There's also the casual anti-Semitism--very characteristic of the period, but especially unattractive coming from such an obviously literate and intelligent author.
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-->"This gentleman, rather curly in the nose and fleshy about the eyelids, nevertheless came under Mr. Chesterton's definition of a nice Jew, for his name was neither Montagu nor [=McDonald=], but Nathan Abrahams, and he greeted Lord Peter with a hospitality amounting to enthusiasm."
-->"This gentleman, rather curly in the nose and fleshy about the eyelids, nevertheless came under Mr. Chesterton's definition of a nice Jew, for his name was neither Montagu nor [=McDonald=], but Nathan Abrahams, and he greeted Lord Peter with a hospitality amounting to enthusiasm."
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful, intelligent young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough extract, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation into a literally drooling cretin. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful, intelligent young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract medication she relies on, on for her hypothyroidism, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not wreck--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough extract, treatment, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation into a literally drooling cretin. degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction.reaction to the literal drooling idiot she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful, intelligent young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough extract, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation into a literally drooling, incontinent cretin. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful, intelligent young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough extract, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation into a literally drooling, incontinent drooling cretin. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful, intelligent young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough extract, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful, intelligent young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough extract, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation. degradation into a literally drooling, incontinent cretin. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.reaction.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful beautiful, intelligent young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough extract, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful young wife in a remote village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful young wife in a remote foreign village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough, enough extract, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful young wife in a remote village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: isolates his beautiful young wife in a remote village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on on, then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the extent of her degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: deprives his beautiful young wife of the thyroid extract she relies on and watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism (all the while, it's implied, frantically begging him to relent--at least until she becomes "unable to understand what's happening to her"). ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to surprise him with the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: deprives isolates his beautiful young wife in a remote village and deprives her of the thyroid extract she relies on and then watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism (all hypothyroidism--not only enjoying her frantic pleas as she feels reason slipping away, but giving her just enough, at intervals, to make sure she fully realises the while, it's implied, frantically begging him to relent--at least until she becomes "unable to understand what's happening to her"). extent of her degradation. ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to surprise him with enjoy his reaction to the subhuman cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: deprives his beautiful young wife of the thyroid extract she relies on and watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism (all the while, it's implied, frantically begging him to relent--at least until she becomes "unable to understand what's happening to her"). ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to surprise him with the subhuman hag she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: deprives his beautiful young wife of the thyroid extract she relies on and watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism (all the while, it's implied, frantically begging him to relent--at least until she becomes "unable to understand what's happening to her"). ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to surprise him with the subhuman hag cretin she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: deprives his beautiful young wife of the thyroid extract she relies on, watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism (all the while, it's implied, frantically begging him to relent--at least until she becomes "unable to understand what's happening to her"). ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to surprise him with the subhuman hag she's become.]]
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** Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: deprives his beautiful young wife of the thyroid extract she relies on, on and watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism (all the while, it's implied, frantically begging him to relent--at least until she becomes "unable to understand what's happening to her"). ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to surprise him with the subhuman hag she's become.]]
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**Also the villain of "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey", who cold-bloodedly [[spoiler: deprives his beautiful young wife of the thyroid extract she relies on, watches as she slowly disintegrates into a mental and physical wreck from hypothyroidism (all the while, it's implied, frantically begging him to relent--at least until she becomes "unable to understand what's happening to her"). ''Then'' he casually invites the man he thinks is her lover over to surprise him with the subhuman hag she's become.]]
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** And everyone knows the lower classes would have no qualms about stealing a body lying in state.
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** And everyone knows the lower classes would have no qualms about stealing a body lying in state. Of course in all justice the body was much disliked in life and the mastermind is a gentleman, and anyway they were doing it [[spoiler: so a friend won't be done out of his inheritance]]. Also they are careful to treat the body as reverently as possible, laying it out in an old chapel with flowers and everything once they've secured it.
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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Unnatural Death'' has a killer who kills leaving no trace except heart failure. [[Manga/DeathNote I wonder how he or she does it ...]]
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** ''Unnatural Death'' has a killer who kills leaving no trace except heart failure. [[Manga/DeathNote I wonder how he or she does it ...]]]]
** ''Five Red Herrings'' is built around public transport timetables, and at one point there's a discussion between several people where each one in turn recommends their preference for getting to Glasgow by train. These days, it reads exactly like the Monty Python "Neville Shunte" sketch.
** ''Unnatural Death'' has a killer who kills leaving no trace except heart failure. [[Manga/DeathNote I wonder how he or she does it ...
** ''Five Red Herrings'' is built around public transport timetables, and at one point there's a discussion between several people where each one in turn recommends their preference for getting to Glasgow by train. These days, it reads exactly like the Monty Python "Neville Shunte" sketch.
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** Also, the part in ''Murder Must Advertise'' where they discuss how to get more people to smoke cigarettes. However, see ScienceMarchesOn on the main page.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ''See'' MotiveRant, ''above''. Earlier in the series, it's hard to know which aspect of [[spoiler:Sir Julian Freke's]] evil is most disturbing. Is it the creepy sexual [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], the anti-Semitism, or the "I'm a genius, so I'm [[AboveGoodAndEvil above mundane considerations of good and evil]]"?
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ''See'' MotiveRant, ''above''.MotiveRant on the main page. Earlier in the series, it's hard to know which aspect of [[spoiler:Sir Julian Freke's]] evil is most disturbing. Is it the creepy sexual [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], the anti-Semitism, or the "I'm a genius, so I'm [[AboveGoodAndEvil above mundane considerations of good and evil]]"?
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* ScienceMarchesOn: In Peter's defense, his cigarette ad in ''Murder Must Advertise'' came decades before the cancer link was discovered. However, a connection between smoking and reduced lifespan -- and the fact that must already be apparent to the tobacco companies that there is one -- is lampshaded in the discussions about the advertising campaign Peter masterminds. Collecting Whifflets coupons will allow the smoker to buy anything they want. Except a coffin, it not being admitted by the cigarette manufacturers that any smoker would ever need one.
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* CompleteMonster: Mary Whittaker cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time,) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was securing an inheritance that she would almost certainly have received anyway.
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* CompleteMonster: Mary Whittaker from ''Unnatural Death'' cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time,) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was securing an inheritance that she would almost certainly have received anyway.
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** The Poison Pen villain in ''Gaudy Night'' initially appears to be merely a bitter, nasty mind whose worst acts are to spread unpleasant and cruel anonymous gossip and fictions, as well as a spot of property damage. However, when the string of messages attempting to badger the innocent, lower-class, brilliant, nervous, workaholic, solitary Miss Newland into either insanity or suicide is unveiled, the MoralEventHorizon is clearly crossed. The MotiveRant at the end of the novel shows just how unhinged and vicious the villain truly is.
** Mary Whittaker cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time,) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was securing an inheritance that she would almost certainly have received anyway.
** The Poison Pen villain in ''Gaudy Night'' initially appears to be merely a bitter, nasty mind whose worst acts are to spread unpleasant and cruel anonymous gossip and fictions, as well as a spot of property damage. However, when the string of messages attempting to badger the innocent, lower-class, brilliant, nervous, workaholic, solitary Miss Newland into either insanity or suicide is unveiled, the MoralEventHorizon is clearly crossed. The MotiveRant at the end of the novel shows just how unhinged and vicious the villain truly is.
** Mary Whittaker cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time,) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was securing an inheritance that she would almost certainly have received anyway.
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**CompleteMonster: Mary Whittaker cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time,) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was securing an inheritance that she would almost certainly have received anyway.
** The Poison Pen villain in ''Gaudy Night'' initially appears to be merely a bitter, nasty mind whose worst acts are to spread unpleasant and cruel anonymous gossip and fictions, as well as a spot of property damage. However, when the string of messages attempting to badger the innocent, lower-class, brilliant, nervous, workaholic, solitary Miss Newland into either insanity or suicide is unveiled, the MoralEventHorizon is clearly crossed. The MotiveRant at the end of the novel shows just how unhinged and vicious the villain truly is.
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** [[spoiler:Standish Wetherall]].
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* JerkassWoobie: George Fentiman is singularly bad-tempered, and infamous in his family for bullying his devoted wife. He also suffers from severe PTSD and chronic organ dysfunction from being gassed in the War, and suffers frequent self-destructive psychotic episodes.
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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Unnatural Death'' has a killer who kills leaving no trace except heart failure. [[DeathNote I wonder how he or she does it ...]]
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* HoYay: Peter and Bunter, Peter and Parker, Harriet and Dr. Martin, every female who sets foot in the S.C.R. for more than a few seconds at a time, Whitaker and Findlater, Agatha and Clara...it goes on. It's rather shocking for the twenties and thirties.
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** And everyone knows the lower classes would have no qualms about stealing a body lying in state.
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** The Poison Pen villain in ''Gaudy Night'' initially appears to be merely a bitter, nasty mind whose worst acts are to spread unpleasant and cruel anonymous gossip and fictions, as well as a spot of property damage. However, when the string of messages attempting to badger the innocent, lower-class, brilliant, nervous, workaholic, solitary Miss Newland into either insanity or suicide is unveiled, the MoralEventHorizon is clearly crossed. The MotiveRant at the end of the novel shows just how unhinged and vicious the villain truly is.
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** The Poison Pen villain in ''Gaudy Night'' initially appears to be merely a bitter, nasty mind whose worst acts are to spread unpleasant and cruel anonymous gossip and fictions, as well as a spot of property damage. However, when the string of messages attempting to badger the innocent, lower-class, brilliant, nervous, workaholic, solitary Miss Newland into either insanity or suicide is unveiled, the MoralEventHorizon is clearly crossed. The MotiveRant at the end of the novel shows just how unhinged and vicious the villain truly is.
