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** Peter casually uses the n-word in conversation more than once - including in ''Unnatural Death'' and ''Murder Must Advertise''.

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** Peter casually uses the n-word in conversation more than once - including in ''Unnatural Death'' and ''Murder Must Advertise''. (However, it must be noted, that in "British" English during the 1930s, that word had a very different definition, and a less-distasteful connotation.)
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Miss Climpson was only relating a racist rant made by someone else, but Peter does casually use slurs himself.


** Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in ''Unnatural Death'', complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder that, awesome as he is, Peter is still a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.

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** Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed Peter casually uses the n-word in conversation more than once - including in ''Unnatural Death'', complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's Death'' and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder that, awesome as he is, Peter is still a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.''Murder Must Advertise''.
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** Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in ''Unnatural Death'', complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they (and by extension Sayers herself) don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder, along with the smoking and drunk driving, that Peter is a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.

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** Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in ''Unnatural Death'', complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they (and by extension Sayers herself) don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder, along with the smoking and drunk driving, that reminder that, awesome as he is, Peter is still a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.
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** Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in "Unnatural Death", complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they (and by extension Sayers herself) don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder, along with the smoking and drunk driving, that Peter is a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.

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** Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in "Unnatural Death", ''Unnatural Death'', complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they (and by extension Sayers herself) don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder, along with the smoking and drunk driving, that Peter is a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.
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* Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in "Unnatural Death", complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they (and by extension Sayers herself) don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder, along with the smoking and drunk driving, that Peter is a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.

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* ** Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in "Unnatural Death", complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they (and by extension Sayers herself) don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder, along with the smoking and drunk driving, that Peter is a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.
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* Miss Climpson has a shockingly racist screed in "Unnatural Death", complete with multiple uses of the n-word. Though Sayers spends enough time on Peter's and Charles' reaction to it to establish that they (and by extension Sayers herself) don't agree, it's still extremely squicky coming from someone that Peter considers a friend--an uncomfortable reminder, along with the smoking and drunk driving, that Peter is a man of his time and not a modern paragon displaced to the 1920s.

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* CompleteMonster:
** Mary Whittaker from ''Unnatural Death'' cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was [[InheritanceMurder securing an inheritance]] that she would almost certainly have received anyway.

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CompleteMonster: Mary Whittaker from ''Unnatural Death'' cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was [[InheritanceMurder securing an inheritance]] that she would almost certainly have received anyway.
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** More minorly, in ''The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club'', the George Fentiman suffers stigma from his own close family because his wife is the breadwinner of their household. He's suffering from multiple invisible disabilities which prevent him working, which his family know perfectly well.

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** More minorly, in ''The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club'', the George Fentiman suffers stigma from his own close family because his wife is the breadwinner of their household. He's suffering from multiple invisible disabilities which prevent him working, which his family know perfectly well.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Strong Poison'', Lord Peter announces that he wants to prove Harriet's innocence absolutely, and that he'd rather see her hanged than have the public think she was a murderess who escaped justice. While he does secure her acquittal and identifies the real killer, later stories reveal that many in the public do still believe she was guilty and that he helped her pin the blame on someone else.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Strong Poison'', Lord Peter announces that he wants to prove Harriet's innocence absolutely, and that he'd rather see her hanged than have the public think she was a murderess who escaped justice. While he does secure her acquittal and identifies the real killer, later stories reveal that [[ConvictedByPublicOpinion many in the public do still believe she was guilty guilty]] and that he helped her pin the blame on someone else.



** In the BBC Radio adaptation of ''Strong Poison'', Nurse Booth is voiced by Creator/JoanHickson. It's faintly incongruous to hear Miss Climpson as the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates investigative little old lady]] running rings round Literature/MissMarple herself.

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** In the BBC Radio Creator/BBCRadio adaptation of ''Strong Poison'', Nurse Booth is voiced by Creator/JoanHickson. It's faintly incongruous to hear Miss Climpson as the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates investigative little old lady]] running rings round Literature/MissMarple herself.



** Then there's Peter's casual line in ''Have His Carcase'' that he always drives more mellowly after a pint of beer.

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** Then there's Peter's casual line in ''Have His Carcase'' that he always [[DrunkDriver drives more mellowly after a pint of beer.beer]].
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** She's not a ''murderess'', but Simone Vonderaa from ''Clouds of Witness'' is chilling in her self -centeredness: she bleeds her lover dry financially over several years, driving him to betray all his principles to keep her, then dumps him anyway when a richer prospect comes along, and shows no emotion when she hears he is dead.

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Per TRS, Aluminum Christmas Trees is YMMV. However, Character Development isn't YMMV, so moving it to the main page.


* CharacterDevelopment:
** At the end of ''Strong Poison'' Harriet wonders why Lord Peter is not there to celebrate her exoneration. Her friend tells her that if she wants Peter around, she'll have to send for him. She refuses to do so, but is told she will in time.
** Early in ''Have His Carcase'' Harriet is surprised to see Peter not long after she has discovered the body in question. He gently rebukes her for not letting him in on the investigation, and they go on as friends. Later on she is in a different mood and demands to know the real reason he showed up. He tells her, it was so she would not have been forced to send for him to protect her from another false accusation of murder.
** By the time of ''Gaudy Night'' she sends for him to help, and is a bit annoyed that he is away in Italy. She sends again later, and he is in Warsaw. At last she simply sends for him to come when he can. She has gone from refusing to see him to practically begging him to show up. And is at last realizing how unfairly she has taken advantage of his devotion and good nature. He was busy trying to fend off a second world war, and she had never bothered to know anything more about him except as an amateur detective who liked to take her to dinner. She insists to herself and others that she needs to be treated as an accomplished individual and independent, only to at last understand that this is the one man who always has done so.

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* CharacterDevelopment:
** At the end of ''Strong Poison'' Harriet wonders why Lord Peter is not there to celebrate her exoneration. Her friend tells her that if she wants Peter around, she'll have to send for him. She refuses to do so, but is told she will in time.
** Early in ''Have His Carcase'' Harriet is surprised to see Peter not long after she has discovered the body in question. He gently rebukes her for not letting him in on the investigation, and they go on as friends. Later on she is in a different mood and demands to know the real reason he showed up. He tells her, it was so she would not have been forced to send for him to protect her from another false accusation of murder.
** By
AluminumChristmasTrees: Critics at the time of ''Gaudy Night'' she sends for him to help, and is a bit annoyed doubted that he is away in Italy. She sends again later, and he is in Warsaw. At last she simply sends for him to come when he can. She has gone from refusing to see him to practically begging him to show up. And is at last realizing how unfairly she has taken advantage ''Unnatural Death'''s method of his devotion and good nature. He was busy trying to fend off a second world war, and she had never bothered to know anything more about him except as an amateur detective who liked to take her to dinner. She insists to herself and others that she needs to be treated as an accomplished individual and independent, murder would work. Not only to at last understand that this is the one man who always has done so.would it work, it was actually employed by a number of real-life murderers.

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* CompleteMonster: Mary Whittaker from ''Unnatural Death'' cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was [[InheritanceMurder securing an inheritance]] that she would almost certainly have received anyway.

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Mary Whittaker from ''Unnatural Death'' cold-bloodedly murders her doting great-aunt; sacks, hunts down and murders her innocent maidservant; seduces and murders a trusting village girl; attempts to drug and murder both Lord Peter and an unsuspecting solicitor; bludgeons and attempts to murder Miss Climpson (who was collecting for charity at the time) and tries to have her distant cousin, a devoted clergyman, hanged for her crimes. Her only motive was [[InheritanceMurder securing an inheritance]] that she would almost certainly have received anyway.anyway.
** She's not a ''murderess'', but Simone Vonderaa from ''Clouds of Witness'' is chilling in her self -centeredness: she bleeds her lover dry financially over several years, driving him to betray all his principles to keep her, then dumps him anyway when a richer prospect comes along, and shows no emotion when she hears he is dead.
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** More minorly, in ''The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club'', the George Fentiman suffers stigma from his own close family because his wife is the breadwinner of their household. He's suffering from multiple invisible disabilities which prevent him working, which his family know perfectly well.

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