History YMMV / LordOfTheFlies

8th Sep '16 5:40:56 AM TheNotoriousMEME
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* CompleteMonster: While ''Lord of the Flies'' reveals the savagery people can descend to, Roger, [[TheDragon the right hand man of Jack]], was already a beast before he came to the island and only needed the lack of consequences to embrace his [[KidsAreCruel true]] [[TeensAreMonsters nature]]. Roger becomes the chief torturer and executioner of Jack's group, keeping others in line with threats of impalement and [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures those who won't submit to Jack]]. He is also the only boy to commit cold-blooded murder by [[MoralEventHorizon crushing the boy Piggy's head]] when Piggy desperately tries to restore sanity.

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* CompleteMonster: While ''Lord of the Flies'' reveals the savagery people can descend to, Roger, [[TheDragon the right hand man of Jack]], was already a beast before he came to the island and only needed the lack of consequences to embrace his [[KidsAreCruel true]] [[TeensAreMonsters nature]]. Roger becomes the chief torturer and executioner of Jack's group, keeping others in line with threats of impalement and [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures those who won't submit to Jack]]. He is also the only boy to commit cold-blooded murder by [[spoiler: [[MoralEventHorizon crushing the boy Piggy's head]] when Piggy desperately tries to restore sanity.]]
14th Jun '16 12:16:42 PM coraline94
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** [[FanPreferredCouple Ralph and Jack.]] While Ralph is no saint himself, he definitely is one of the most innocent boys on the island, especially when compared to Jack. Ralph turns from an immature kid into a really kind, calm and considerate boy, not to mention that he is completely broken in the end, while Jack starts the same as Ralph, but he goes into the opposite direction, as he becomes even more malicious, rude, abusive and sadistic in the end. Ralph also represents the civil, moral part of the human mind, while Jack represents the primal instincts, the darkest, most savage part. Then there is the whole [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold blonde hair]]- [[EvilRedhead red hair]] contrast which strengthens this implication, as older beliefs considered fair hair to be of good will, while red hair was supposed to suggest evil.

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** [[FanPreferredCouple Ralph and Jack.]] While Ralph is no saint himself, he definitely is one of the most innocent boys on the island, especially when compared to Jack. Ralph turns from an immature kid into a really kind, calm kind and considerate boy, not to mention that he is completely broken in the end, while Jack starts the same as Ralph, but he goes into the opposite direction, as he becomes even more malicious, rude, abusive and sadistic in the end. Ralph also represents the civil, moral part of the human mind, while Jack represents the primal instincts, the darkest, most savage part. Then there is the whole [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold blonde hair]]- [[EvilRedhead red hair]] contrast which strengthens this implication, as older beliefs considered fair hair to be of good will, while red hair was supposed to suggest evil.
12th Mar '16 7:43:13 PM Pichu-kun
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* AngelDevilShipping: [[FanPreferredCouple Ralph and Jack.]] While Ralph is no saint himself, he definitely is one of the most innocent boys on the island, especially when compared to Jack. Ralph turns from an immature kid into a really kind, calm and considerate boy, not to mention that he is completely broken in the end, while Jack starts the same as Ralph, but he goes into the opposite direction, as he becomes even more malicious, rude, abusive and sadistic in the end. Ralph also represents the civil, moral part of the human mind, while Jack represents the primal instincts, the darkest, most savage part. Then there is the whole [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold blonde hair]]- [[EvilRedhead red hair]] contrast which strengthens this implication, as older beliefs considered fair hair to be of good will, while red hair was supposed to suggest evil.

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[[FanPreferredCouple Ralph and Jack.]] While Ralph is no saint himself, he definitely is one of the most innocent boys on the island, especially when compared to Jack. Ralph turns from an immature kid into a really kind, calm and considerate boy, not to mention that he is completely broken in the end, while Jack starts the same as Ralph, but he goes into the opposite direction, as he becomes even more malicious, rude, abusive and sadistic in the end. Ralph also represents the civil, moral part of the human mind, while Jack represents the primal instincts, the darkest, most savage part. Then there is the whole [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold blonde hair]]- [[EvilRedhead red hair]] contrast which strengthens this implication, as older beliefs considered fair hair to be of good will, while red hair was supposed to suggest evil.



* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The book was written just to say HumansAreBastards and HobbesWasRight, a TakeThat to all the RousseauWasRight works of the time.
** Some have read it as a slightly friendlier {{A|nAesop}}esop against the racial stereotypes of the era, showing that under the wrong circumstances even British schoolboys fall into savagery just as easily as any "inferior" cultures.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The book was written just to say HumansAreBastards and HobbesWasRight, a TakeThat to all the RousseauWasRight works of the time. \n** Some have read it as a slightly friendlier {{A|nAesop}}esop against the racial stereotypes of the era, showing that under the wrong circumstances even British schoolboys fall into savagery just as easily as any "inferior" cultures.



* MemeticMutation: "Sucks to your ass-mar."

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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"Sucks to your ass-mar."



* MoralEventHorizon: The frenzied, hysterical killing of [[spoiler:Simon]] by Jack and the other boys comes dangerously close to it. It's finally crossed (and in a very symbolic way) when Roger pushes a massive boulder down on [[spoiler: Piggy]], sending him flying off the cliff and to his death.

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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The frenzied, hysterical killing of [[spoiler:Simon]] by Jack and the other boys comes dangerously close to it. It's finally crossed (and in a very symbolic way) when Roger pushes a massive boulder down on [[spoiler: Piggy]], sending him flying off the cliff and to his death.



* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler: Piggy's death]] in the 1960s film.

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[[spoiler: Piggy's death]] in the 1960s film.
6th Feb '16 11:26:48 AM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: It's Golding's best-known work by far.
5th Sep '15 11:06:48 AM Morgenthaler
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* MemeticSexGod: Jack Merridew, good lord, ''[[DracoInLeatherPants and how]]''. Just read the fanfiction and go on tumblr.
15th Aug '15 9:16:33 PM Rivfruifv
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** Main/MarkTwain's [[http://imgur.com/NdPA9 Lord of the Flies]].
13th Aug '15 8:58:45 PM Angeldeb82
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** Some have read it as a slightly friendlier {{Aesop}} against the racial stereotypes of the era, showing that under the wrong circumstances even British schoolboys fall into savagery just as easily as any "inferior" cultures.

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** Some have read it as a slightly friendlier {{Aesop}} {{A|nAesop}}esop against the racial stereotypes of the era, showing that under the wrong circumstances even British schoolboys fall into savagery just as easily as any "inferior" cultures.



* HilariousInHindsight: [[SpongebobSquarepants Using a conch shell to represent authority]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: [[SpongebobSquarepants [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarepants Using a conch shell to represent authority]].authority.]]



** In the 90s film as well. Especially the way Ralph screams [[BigNo "NOOOOO!"]] [[spoiler:before he gets killed, and that deadpan pause after his head gets crushed.]]

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** In the 90s film as well. Especially the way Ralph screams [[BigNo "NOOOOO!"]] [[spoiler:before he gets killed, and that deadpan pause after his head gets crushed.]] crushed]].



* {{OTP}}: Jack/Ralph is for those who like a love/hate romance. Ralph/Simon for those who love a cute, wholesome romance. Jack/Roger for those who are into a psycho dark romance between two psychos.

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* {{OTP}}: OneTruePairing: Jack/Ralph is for those who like a love/hate romance. Ralph/Simon for those who love a cute, wholesome romance. Jack/Roger for those who are into a psycho dark romance between two psychos.
29th Jul '15 9:27:45 PM Rivfruifv
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[SpongebobSquarepants Using a conch shell to represent authority]].
20th Jun '15 1:22:49 PM corruptmalemenace
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* ToyShip: All of the named characters in the book are, at most, just ''barely'' pubescent. For some reason, this doesn't seem to stop the fandom shipping them in every possible combination.
7th May '15 11:09:28 AM LinkToTheFuture
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* ValuesDissonance: The 63' film had prepubescent nudity. It was completely non-sexual and realistic, but because of the PaedoHunt, modern audiences are met with shock and disgust at the film showing young boys' boy parts.

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* ValuesDissonance: The 63' '63 film had prepubescent nudity. It was completely non-sexual and realistic, but because of the PaedoHunt, modern audiences are met with shock and disgust at the film showing young boys' boy parts.
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