History YMMV / Lincoln

12th May '16 5:57:57 PM MurrayTheBlue
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** It also serves as as one to ''Film/AmazingGrace'', a biography of William Wilberforce, and his similar efforts to outlaw the slave-trade in the English Parliament.
3rd Jan '16 12:18:28 PM JulianLapostat
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Tony Kushner said that he and Spielberg saw this film as a delayed sequel to Creator/JohnFord's 1940 ''Film/YoungMrLincoln''. That film showed Lincoln at the very start of his career, this film shows Lincoln near the very end.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: Tony Kushner said that he and Spielberg saw this film as a delayed sequel to Creator/JohnFord's 1940 ''Film/YoungMrLincoln''. That film showed Lincoln at near the very start of his career, this film shows Lincoln near at the very end.
3rd Jan '16 12:17:46 PM JulianLapostat
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Tony Kushner said that he and Spielberg saw this film as a delayed sequel to Creator/JohnFord's 1940 ''Film/YoungMrLincoln''. That film showed Lincoln at the very start of his career, this film shows Lincoln near the very end.
30th Dec '15 8:35:32 AM JulianLapostat
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* ValuesResonance: Ta-Nehisi Coates, writing in The Atlantic noted that while on the surface, ''Lincoln'' was a conventional film, it was in fact wholly radical when compared to other films about the American Civil War:
--> ''The implicit message of Lincoln [[RuleAbidingRebel (the necessity of political compromise) isn’t very radical]]. But when you consider the film, as a whole, against the backdrop of how America has handled the Civil War in popular culture, it is shockingly radical. It may seem ordinary to those of who study the War...but this is decidedly not the history presented in Film/TheBirthOfANation, in Film/GoneWithTheWind, in Hell on Wheels, in Ride With The Devil...''Lincoln'' says the Civil War is about slavery. Full Stop ...I have never seen these facts—basic history though they may—stated so forthrightly, without apology, in the sphere of mass popular culture.''
28th Dec '15 10:45:18 AM erforce
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: After [[spoiler: the passage of the 13th Amendment its supporters]] start singing the "Battle Cry of Freedom" in the Capitol and on the streets. The congressmen actually start doing it while still inside the Capitol.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: After [[spoiler: the passage of the 13th Amendment its supporters]] start singing the "Battle Cry of Freedom" in the Capitol and on the streets. The congressmen actually start doing it while still inside the Capitol.



** Also, James Spader as W.N. Bilboe, one of the lobbyists working to help pass the amendment.

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** Also, James Spader Creator/JamesSpader as W.N. Bilboe, one of the lobbyists working to help pass the amendment.



* HeartwarmingInHindsight: ''{{Film/Lincoln}}'' is not the first film to speculate that Thaddeus Stevens [[spoiler:was married-by-common-law to his African-American maid]]. ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'' depicted it first with a CaptainErsatz of Stevens but used it to just further discredit him, while this film depicts it rightly as a very sweet thing.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: ''{{Film/Lincoln}}'' ''Lincoln'' is not the first film to speculate that Thaddeus Stevens [[spoiler:was married-by-common-law to his African-American maid]]. ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'' depicted it first with a CaptainErsatz of Stevens but used it to just further discredit him, while this film depicts it rightly as a very sweet thing.



** Hal Holbrook, who plays Francis Preston Blair, played Lincoln in the miniseries' ''Lincoln'' (1976) and 'North and South, Book II'' (1986).

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** Hal Holbrook, who plays Francis Preston Blair, played Lincoln in the miniseries' ''Lincoln'' (1976) and 'North ''North and South, Book II'' (1986).



** Jackie Earl Haley's very brief but very memorable performance as Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy.

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** Jackie Earl Haley's Creator/JackieEarleHaley's very brief but very memorable performance as Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy.
28th Dec '15 10:43:34 AM erforce
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* HilariousInHindsight: In ''Film/GangsOfNewYork'', DDL played Bill the Butcher, a crime lord who was vehemently anti-Lincoln, and is seen throwing a knife at a Lincoln campaign poster on Election Day. Also, his character's main rival in that film was played by Creator/LiamNeeson (see WhatCouldHaveBeen).
** Also, Fernando Wood, a Democratic rival to Lincoln's party, was notoriously supported in New York by the Dead Rabbits gang in Real Life.

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In ''Film/GangsOfNewYork'', DDL played Bill the Butcher, a crime lord who was vehemently anti-Lincoln, and is seen throwing a knife at a Lincoln campaign poster on Election Day. Also, his character's main rival in that film was played by Creator/LiamNeeson (see WhatCouldHaveBeen).
** *** Also, Fernando Wood, a Democratic rival to Lincoln's party, was notoriously supported in New York by the Dead Rabbits gang in Real Life.


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** Hal Holbrook, who plays Francis Preston Blair, played Lincoln in the miniseries' ''Lincoln'' (1976) and 'North and South, Book II'' (1986).
30th Dec '14 4:13:12 PM allium
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--> '''Tad.''' She's asleep, probably, they went to see Avonia Jones last night in a play about Israelites.[[note]]This would have been ''Leah the Forsaken'' by Augustin Daly.[[/note]] Daddy's meeting with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Agassiz a famous scientist]] now and he's nervous because of how smart the man is and the man is angry [[note]]Agassiz was one of the last great natural scientists to resist Darwin's theory[[/note]] about 'cause there's a new book that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Beckwith Sam Beckwith]] says is about finches, and finches' beaks, about how they change, and it takes years and years and years, and...

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--> '''Tad.''' She's asleep, probably, they went to see Avonia Jones last night in a play about Israelites.[[note]]This would have been ''Leah the Forsaken'' by Augustin Daly.[[/note]] Daddy's meeting with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Agassiz a famous scientist]] now [[note]](probably regarding the National Academy of Sciences, which was incorporated in 1863 with Agassiz as a charter member and first Foreign Secretary)[[/note]] and he's nervous because of how smart the man is and the man is angry [[note]]Agassiz [[note]](Agassiz was one of the last great natural scientists to resist Darwin's theory[[/note]] theory)[[/note]] about 'cause there's a new book that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Beckwith Sam Beckwith]] says is about finches, and finches' beaks, about how they change, and it takes years and years and years, and...
30th Dec '14 4:06:19 PM allium
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--> '''Tad.''' She's asleep, probably, they went to see Avonia Jones last night in a play about Israelites.[[note]]This would have been ''Leah the Forsaken'' by Augustin Daly.[[/note]] Daddy's meeting with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Agassiz a famous scientist]] now and he's nervous because of how smart the man is and the man is angry about 'cause there's a new book that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Beckwith Sam Beckwith]] says is about finches, and finches' beaks, about how they change, and it takes years and years and years, and...

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--> '''Tad.''' She's asleep, probably, they went to see Avonia Jones last night in a play about Israelites.[[note]]This would have been ''Leah the Forsaken'' by Augustin Daly.[[/note]] Daddy's meeting with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Agassiz a famous scientist]] now and he's nervous because of how smart the man is and the man is angry [[note]]Agassiz was one of the last great natural scientists to resist Darwin's theory[[/note]] about 'cause there's a new book that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Beckwith Sam Beckwith]] says is about finches, and finches' beaks, about how they change, and it takes years and years and years, and...
18th Dec '14 3:02:33 PM Tuckerscreator
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: In a movie hyped for Daniel Day-Lewis' deeply committed and highly accurate portrayal of Abraham Lincoln, it's Tommy Lee Jones' Thaddeus Stevens that steals the show.

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In a movie hyped for Daniel Day-Lewis' deeply committed and highly accurate portrayal of Abraham Lincoln, it's Tommy Lee Jones' Thaddeus Stevens that steals the show.
18th Dec '14 3:02:02 PM Tuckerscreator
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--> * HeartwarmingInHindsight: ''{{Film/Lincoln}}'' is not the first film to speculate that Thaddeus Stevens [[spoiler:was married-by-common-law to his African-American maid]]. ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'' depicted it first with a CaptainErsatz of Stevens but used it to just further discredit him, while this film depicts it rightly as a very sweet thing.
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