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** Stannis and Shireen serenely plan to ban all the technology of Griffin's Nest and keep the residents trapped their in slave labor-esque circumstances ''after'' sending the people who've actually given them cause to be angry at (the planet's Nobles, down to the youngest child, and anyone who's ''ever'' served in their Armed Forces or sworn an oath to Jon Connington) to the Wall. Granted, they do have genuine and somewhat necessary goals for all that infrastructure rather than taking it just out of spite but they're still coming down incredibly hard on an entire planet just because their worst enemy happened to live there. To some fans, the phrase "DisproportionateRetribution" applies, and has evoked comparison to the behavior of The Empire from ''Franchise/StarWars''.

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** Stannis and Shireen serenely plan to ban all the technology of Griffin's Nest and keep the residents trapped their in slave labor-esque circumstances ''after'' sending the people who've everyone whose actually given them the Baratheons the remotest cause to be angry at them (the planet's Nobles, down to the youngest child, and anyone who's ''ever'' served in their Armed Forces or sworn an oath to Jon Connington) to the Wall. Granted, they do have genuine and somewhat necessary goals for all using that infrastructure rather than on struggling planets elsewhere and aren't taking it just purely out of spite spite, but they're still coming down incredibly hard on an entire planet just because their worst enemy happened to live there. To some fans, the phrase "DisproportionateRetribution" applies, and the situation has evoked comparison to the behavior of The Empire from ''Franchise/StarWars''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The story paints Aerys (and possibly Rheager, although he may have been bad to begin with) as having gone mad due to visions of the White Walker invasion. The pilot of ''Series/HouseOfTheDragon'' says that Aegon the Conqueror himself had such a vision and passed the knowledge down to his descendants.
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** Really Baratheon, Tyrell lackey that he is, suffers from a HeelRealization at Fawnton, followed by him escaping the fire demons of R'hllor and retreating to the Tyrell's as a witness to those events, and with a drastically changed position now that the Stormlands are in Rebellion and his lover Loras is a couple chapters away from becoming a prisoner of war. His presence during some of the court and war council scenes at Highgarden that follow could have been interesting, but the character has barely even been referenced since, over 8 chapters, and almost two years of writing by the author (and counting).

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** Really Renly Baratheon, Tyrell lackey that he is, suffers from a HeelRealization at Fawnton, followed by him escaping the fire demons of R'hllor and retreating to the Tyrell's as a witness to those events, and with a drastically changed position now that the Stormlands are in Rebellion and his lover Loras is a couple chapters away from becoming a prisoner of war. His presence during some of the court and war council scenes at Highgarden that follow could have been interesting, but the character has barely even been referenced since, over 8 chapters, and almost two years of writing by the author (and counting).
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** Due to his desire to keep everyone focused on rebelling against his archenemy Rhaegar, Ned has yet to even ''try'' to tell ''any'' of the other sectors about the threat of the White Walkers. Ned's silence has put trillions in jeopardy from both the White Walkers and the MeleeATrois engulfing the Seven Sectors. This can come across as a short-sighted example of RevengeBeforeReason.
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** Merrett Frey is given the potential to be a somewhat larger player in the dynamics of the house after his wife's family, the Darrys, receive the paramountcy of the Riverlands, and various InheritanceMurder's by Emmon would make it plausible for him to leave The Twins. However he never so much as appears on person before [[spoiler: his ship is destroyed by Davos's assault on the Twins during the War of the Ten Warlords and he's listed as dying with it]].

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** Merrett Frey is given the potential to be a somewhat larger player in the dynamics of the house after his wife's family, the Darrys, receive the paramountcy of the Riverlands, and various InheritanceMurder's by Emmon would make it plausible for him to leave The Twins. However he never so much as appears on in person before [[spoiler: his ship is destroyed by Davos's assault on the Twins during the War of the Ten Warlords and he's listed as dying with it]].



** Barristan Selmy is a character who is denied chance after chance to be a complex character, or even much of a character at all. His MyMasterRightOrWrong tendencies are exaggerated here, with no indication that he's ever been introspective. He does seem to have a brief epiphany as he's being brutally killed by Sansa, but after being ressurected he stands by and aids a king even worse than the last two he served in completely devastating King's Landing, and then fails to save him form being badly injured by enemy soldiers. A little exposition about whether this is causing Barristan more moral conflict or he TookALevelInJerkass would be nice, but for more than ten chapters there has been no indication about how he feels about serving Aegon, or his reaction to this king being horribly injured on his watch right on the verge of victory, negating any benefit of all of the horrific casualties they've taken and inflicted. Even his feelings about being resurrected by the Red Priests have not yet been touched upon. The fact that according to the prologue, Barristan is supposed to be a major figure in the War for The Dawn, does not help this.

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** Barristan Selmy is a character who is denied chance after chance to be a complex character, or even much of a character at all. His MyMasterRightOrWrong tendencies are exaggerated here, with no indication that he's ever been introspective. He does seem to have a brief epiphany as he's being brutally killed by Sansa, but after being ressurected he stands by and aids a king even worse than the last two he served in completely devastating King's Landing, and then fails to save him form from being badly injured by enemy soldiers. A little exposition about whether this is causing Barristan more moral conflict or he TookALevelInJerkass would be nice, but for more than ten chapters there has been no indication about how he feels about serving Aegon, or his reaction to this king being horribly injured on his watch right on the verge of victory, negating any benefit of all of the horrific casualties they've taken and inflicted. Even his feelings about being resurrected by the Red Priests have not yet been touched upon. The fact that according to the prologue, Barristan is supposed to be a major figure in the War for The Dawn, does not help this.
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** Gregor Clegane's actions during the Greyjoy Rebellion, while brutal, can at least attributed to killing enemy combatants. Once he and Armory Lorch are given custody of Great Wyk however, they start a genocide of the entire planet. Rapes, tortures, and {{CruelAndUnusualDeath}}s become the norm. Over the course of 10 years, they kill over ''600 million people''. That's approximately 172,000 people per day. In-Universe even, upon learning of it Ayric Sarring and his men decide they have to kill Clegane for it.

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** Gregor Clegane's actions during the Greyjoy Rebellion, while brutal, can at least attributed to killing enemy combatants. Once he and Armory Lorch are given custody of Great Wyk however, they start a genocide of the entire planet. Rapes, tortures, and {{CruelAndUnusualDeath}}s {{Cruel And Unusual Death}}s become the norm. Over the course of 10 years, they kill over ''600 million people''. That's approximately 172,000 people per day. In-Universe even, upon learning of it Ayric Sarring and his men decide they have to kill Clegane for it.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: It can be genuinely hard to tell if Joffrey is shaping out to be just like his canon self and was only being restrained due to how long he's been denied any real power, or if he's actually a decent guy in this version who happens to see red when it comes to Aegon. His sister Shierra seems to think the former but so far most of Joffreys scenes display some respect, insight and possibly even empathy on ocassions.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: It can be genuinely hard to tell if Joffrey is shaping out to be just like his canon self and was only being restrained due to how long he's been denied any real power, or if he's actually a decent guy in this version who happens to see red when it comes to Aegon. His sister Shierra seems to think the former but so far most of Joffreys scenes display some respect, insight and possibly even empathy on ocassions.occasions.



** Gregor Clegane's actions during the Greyjoy Rebellion, while brutal, can at least attributed to killing enemy combatants. Once he and Armory Lorch are given custody of Great Wyk however, they start a genocide of the entire planet. Rapes, tortures, and {{CruelAndUnusualDeath}}s become the norm. Over the course of 10 years, they kill over ''600 million people''. That's approximately 172,000 people per day. In-Universe even, upon learning of it Ayric Sarring and his men decide they have to kill Clegane for it.
** Ser Arthur Dayne is not only an accomplice to the rape and murder of Lyanna Stark, he also murdered his own sister to secure her child and use her as leverage against Eddard Stark. (This is also is an In-Universe case, the entire sectors of Dorne and the North want him dead for it).



** And now Krakens have begun to invade the Iron Sector. For reference, they're capable of surviving in the void like dragons and are large enough to swallow a scout cruiser in one bite.

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** And now Krakens have begun to invade the Iron Sector. For reference, they're capable of surviving in the void like dragons and are large enough to swallow a scout cruiser in one bite. [[spoiler:They can also destroy planets]].
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** Aside from Theon and Asha, the various Ironborn hostages taking after the Greyjoy Rebellion receive little to no mention despite some opportunities for this. Maron Volmark in particular could have been someone who, as Asha's only fellow Ironborn at Higharden, could have been used as a friend of hers and/or gotten some use out o return gin to Harlaw with her and Sam.

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** Aside from Theon and Asha, the various Ironborn hostages taking after the Greyjoy Rebellion receive little to no mention despite some opportunities for this. Maron Volmark in particular could have been someone who, as Asha's only fellow Ironborn at Higharden, could have been used as a friend of hers and/or gotten some use out o return gin of returning to Harlaw with her and Sam.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpertation: It can be genuinely hard to tell if Joffrey is shaping out to be just like his canon self and was only being restrained due to how long he's been denied any real power, or if he's actually a decent guy in this version who happens to see red when it comes to Aegon. His sister Shierra seems to think the former but so far most of Joffreys scenes display some respect, insight and possibly even empathy on ocassions.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpertation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation: It can be genuinely hard to tell if Joffrey is shaping out to be just like his canon self and was only being restrained due to how long he's been denied any real power, or if he's actually a decent guy in this version who happens to see red when it comes to Aegon. His sister Shierra seems to think the former but so far most of Joffreys scenes display some respect, insight and possibly even empathy on ocassions.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpertation: It can be genuinely hard to tell if Joffrey is shaping out to be just like his canon self and was only being restrained due to how long he's been denied any real power, or if he's actually a decent guy in this version who happens to see red when it comes to Aegon. His sister Shierra seems to think the former but so far most of Joffreys scenes display some respect, insight and possibly even empathy on ocassions.
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** Tybalto Virys, a weapons master sent to the Night's Watch for preemptive strikes on Braavos's enemies, who provides a boon to the defense of the fortress of Crow's Peak, is nonetheless apparently KilledOffscreen in his first chapter, as it's heavily implied that Euron was the fortresses SoleSurvivor.

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** Tybalto Virys, a weapons master sent to the Night's Watch for preemptive strikes on Braavos's enemies, who provides a boon to the defense of the fortress of Crow's Peak, is nonetheless apparently KilledOffscreen in his first chapter, as it's heavily implied that Euron was the fortresses fortress' SoleSurvivor.



** Andrew Baratheon is the heir to Storm's End, but despite ample opportunities for him to shine during the War of the Ten Warlords, practically the only proof that he even exists in the story is his introductory scene, where he and Shireen discuss their father's plan to ally with and betray various Targaryens, while using a picture of King Rheager as a DartboardOfHate.

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** Andrew Baratheon is the heir to Storm's End, but despite ample opportunities for him to shine during the War of the Ten Warlords, practically the only proof that he even exists in the story is his introductory scene, where he and Shireen discuss their father's plan to ally with and betray various Targaryens, while using a picture of King Rheager Rhaegar as a DartboardOfHate.



** Barristan Selmy is a character who is denied chance after chance to be a complex character, or even much of a character at all. His MyMasterRightOrWrong tendencies are exaggerated here, with no indication that he's ever been introspective. He does seem to have a brief epiphany as he's being brutally killed by Sansa, but after being ressurected he stands by and aids a king even worse than the last two he served in completely devastating King's Landing, and then fails to save him form being badly injured by enemy soldiers. A little exposition about whether this is causing Barristan more moral conflict or his TookALevelInJerkass would be nice, but for more than ten chapters there has been no indication about how he feels about serving Aegon, or his reaction to this king being horribly injured on his watch right on the verge of victory, negating any benefit of all of the horrific casualties they've taken and inflicted. Even his feelings about being resurrected by the Red Priests have not yet been touched upon. The fact that according to the prologue, Barristan is supposed to be a major figure in the War for The Dawn, does not help this.
** Really Baratheon, Tyrell lackey that he is, suffers from a HeelRealization at Fawnton, followed by him escaping the fire demons of R'hllor and retreating to the Tyrell's as a witness to those events, and with a drastically changed position now that the Stormlands are in Rebellion and his loverLoras is a couple chapters away from becoming a prisoner of war. His presence during some of the court and war council scenes at Highgarden that follow could have been interesting, but the character has barely even been referenced since, over 8 chapters, and almost two years of writing by the author (and counting).

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** Barristan Selmy is a character who is denied chance after chance to be a complex character, or even much of a character at all. His MyMasterRightOrWrong tendencies are exaggerated here, with no indication that he's ever been introspective. He does seem to have a brief epiphany as he's being brutally killed by Sansa, but after being ressurected he stands by and aids a king even worse than the last two he served in completely devastating King's Landing, and then fails to save him form being badly injured by enemy soldiers. A little exposition about whether this is causing Barristan more moral conflict or his he TookALevelInJerkass would be nice, but for more than ten chapters there has been no indication about how he feels about serving Aegon, or his reaction to this king being horribly injured on his watch right on the verge of victory, negating any benefit of all of the horrific casualties they've taken and inflicted. Even his feelings about being resurrected by the Red Priests have not yet been touched upon. The fact that according to the prologue, Barristan is supposed to be a major figure in the War for The Dawn, does not help this.
** Really Baratheon, Tyrell lackey that he is, suffers from a HeelRealization at Fawnton, followed by him escaping the fire demons of R'hllor and retreating to the Tyrell's as a witness to those events, and with a drastically changed position now that the Stormlands are in Rebellion and his loverLoras lover Loras is a couple chapters away from becoming a prisoner of war. His presence during some of the court and war council scenes at Highgarden that follow could have been interesting, but the character has barely even been referenced since, over 8 chapters, and almost two years of writing by the author (and counting).



** Stannis and Shireen serenely plan to ban all the technology of Griffin's Nest and keep the residents trapped their in slave labor-esque circumstances ''after'' sending the people who've actually given them cause to be angry at (the planets Nobles, down to the youngest child, and anyone who's ''ever'' served in their Armed Forces or sworn an oath to Jon Connington) to the Wall. Granted, they do have genuine and somewhat necessary goals for all that infrastructure rather than taking it just out of spite but they're still coming down incredibly hard on an entire planet just because their worst enemy happened to live there. To some fans, the phrase "DisproportionateRetribution" applies, and has evoked comparison to the behavior of The Empire from ''Franchise/StarWars''.

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** Stannis and Shireen serenely plan to ban all the technology of Griffin's Nest and keep the residents trapped their in slave labor-esque circumstances ''after'' sending the people who've actually given them cause to be angry at (the planets planet's Nobles, down to the youngest child, and anyone who's ''ever'' served in their Armed Forces or sworn an oath to Jon Connington) to the Wall. Granted, they do have genuine and somewhat necessary goals for all that infrastructure rather than taking it just out of spite but they're still coming down incredibly hard on an entire planet just because their worst enemy happened to live there. To some fans, the phrase "DisproportionateRetribution" applies, and has evoked comparison to the behavior of The Empire from ''Franchise/StarWars''.
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** Really Baratheon, Tyrell lackey that he is, suffers from a HeelRealization at Fawnton, followed by him escaping the fire demons of R'hllor and retreating to the Tyrell's as a witness to those events, and with a drastically changed position now that the Stormlands are in Rebellion and his loverLoras is a couple chapters away from becoming a prisoner of war. His presence during some of the court and war council scenes at Highgarden that follow could have been interesting, but the character has barely even been referenced since, over 8 chapters, and almost two years of writing by the author.

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** Really Baratheon, Tyrell lackey that he is, suffers from a HeelRealization at Fawnton, followed by him escaping the fire demons of R'hllor and retreating to the Tyrell's as a witness to those events, and with a drastically changed position now that the Stormlands are in Rebellion and his loverLoras is a couple chapters away from becoming a prisoner of war. His presence during some of the court and war council scenes at Highgarden that follow could have been interesting, but the character has barely even been referenced since, over 8 chapters, and almost two years of writing by the author.author (and counting).

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** Really Baratheon, Tyrell lackey that he is, suffers from a HeelRealization at Fawnton, followed by him escaping the fire demons of R'hllor and retreating to the Tyrell's as a witness to those events, and with a drastically changed position now that the Stormlands are in Rebellion and his loverLoras is a couple chapters away from becoming a prisoner of war. His presence during some of the court and war council scenes at Highgarden that follow could have been interesting, but the character has barely even been referenced since, over 8 chapters, and almost two years of writing by the author.



** For a brief, more minor example, Daenerys is fairly rude and dismissive of Joffrey when he visits her with Rhaegar's request that she return to King's Landing. While the request itself is absurd, and she had every reason to hate Rhaegar himself, Joffrey is being unusually courteous, respectful and sincere, and had no idea that Rhaegar was violating a treaty by trying to make his sister leave Braavos (something that is plain to everyone) and doesn't come across as quite deserving of the condescension he receives just for delivering a message.

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** For a brief, one-time, more minor example, Daenerys is fairly rude and dismissive of Joffrey when he visits her with Rhaegar's request that she return to King's Landing. While the request itself is absurd, and she had every reason to hate Rhaegar himself, Joffrey is being unusually courteous, respectful and sincere, and had no idea that Rhaegar was violating a treaty by trying to make his sister leave Braavos (something that is plain to everyone) and doesn't come across as quite deserving of the condescension he receives just for delivering a message.
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** For a brief, more minor example, Daenerys is fairly rude and dismissive of Joffrey when he visits her with Rhaegar's request that she return to King's Landing. While the request itself is absurd, and she had every reason to hate Rhaegar himself, Joffrey is being unusually courteous, respectful and sincere, and had no idea that Rhaegar was violating a treaty by trying to make his sister leave Braavos (something that is plain to everyone) and doesn't come across as quite deserving of the condescension he receives.

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** For a brief, more minor example, Daenerys is fairly rude and dismissive of Joffrey when he visits her with Rhaegar's request that she return to King's Landing. While the request itself is absurd, and she had every reason to hate Rhaegar himself, Joffrey is being unusually courteous, respectful and sincere, and had no idea that Rhaegar was violating a treaty by trying to make his sister leave Braavos (something that is plain to everyone) and doesn't come across as quite deserving of the condescension he receives.receives just for delivering a message.

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