History YMMV / LesLegendaires

18th Nov '16 11:42:05 AM Theokal3
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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Danael becoming Anathos' host]]. When the book came out, it was considered one of the biggest twists in the series. But thanks to the NothingIsTheSameAnymore situation after the Anathos Cycle, it has become really hard to miss.
13th Nov '16 9:34:03 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[GodOfEvil Anathos]] is an OmnicidalManiac with absolutely no code of honor. His [[KickTheDog actions]] include: [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown crushing and savagely crippling]] the protagonists; mocking Jadina about her relationship with the now "deceased" Danael; ordering his Hellions to [[ColdBloodedTorture physically]] and [[MindRape mentally]] torture Tenebris for information; and [[PlagueMaster creating a plague]] to exterminate people he wouldn't bother killing himself. Whereas Darkhell at least cared for his daughter and Skroa never went further than slapping his, Anathos killed his own DarkMistress by blowing her head off just after pretending to forgive her defeat.

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* CompleteMonster: [[GodOfEvil Anathos]] is an OmnicidalManiac with absolutely no code of honor. His [[KickTheDog actions]] include: [[SealedEvilInACan Imprisonned in the Bearer]] by his kind for [[EarthShatteringKaboom destroying the original planet of Alysia]], Anathos seeks to free himself by manipulating the elf Shimy into receiving his mark so that he could use her as [[DemonicPossession his host]]. When the Legendaries prevent him from using Shimy, he takes possession of Danael before [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown crushing and savagely crippling]] the protagonists; protagonists and mocking Jadina about her relationship with the now "deceased" Danael; ordering now-"deceased" Danael. After killing Elysio, Darkhell and the Guardian who tried to stop him, he leads a rampage with [[QuirkyMinibossSquad his Hellions Hellions]] across the world [[KillAllHumans to [[ColdBloodedTorture physically]] and [[MindRape mentally]] torture Tenebris for information; annihilate humanity]] by wiping out the major cities, sicking the Vulturs on the survivors and [[PlagueMaster creating a plague]] to exterminate people he wouldn't bother killing himself. Whereas Darkhell at least cared He orders his Hellions to [[ColdBloodedTorture physically]] and [[MindRape mentally]] torture Tenebris for information, and when his daughter and Skroa never went further than slapping his, Anathos killed his own DarkMistress by blowing Dark Jadina begs him forgiveness for [[YouHaveFailedMe failing]] to kill the original Jadina, he [[spoiler:[[YourHeadAsplode blows her head off off]] just after pretending to forgive her defeat.her]]. Humiliated by the Legendaries, he attempts one last time to destroy Alysia before Kalandre stops him.
12th Nov '16 3:43:10 AM Silverblade2
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* MoralEventHorizon: Most main villains cross it at least once, but Anathos is especially notable in that he did so many horrible things it's hard to pick exactly when he crossed it. [[spoiler:Destroying a whole recently born planet for the sake of testing his newly gained power ? Manipulating an innocent elven girl into becoming his future host for his reincarnation ? Crippling all the heroes for the rest of their life ? committing mass murder and attempting to destroy Alysia ''again'' as a revenge for the Gods trapping for years after he destroyed the original Alysia ? Killing his own DarkMistress ? Pick your choice.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Most main villains cross it at least once, but Anathos is especially notable in that he did so many horrible things it's hard to pick exactly when he crossed it. [[spoiler:Destroying a whole recently born planet for the sake of testing his newly gained power ? Manipulating an innocent elven girl into becoming his future host for his reincarnation ? Crippling all the heroes for the rest of their life ? committing mass murder and attempting to destroy Alysia ''again'' as a revenge for the Gods trapping for years after he destroyed the original Alysia ? Killing his own DarkMistress ? Pick your choice.]]]]
** Despite [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds her sympathetic backstory]], Kalandre crosses it by [[spoiler: manipulating her followers and tried to sacrifice them all so she could kill the gods who wronged her]] if [[spoiler: being directly responsible for the destruction of the Jenova stone or planning Anathos' release]] do not count.
11th Nov '16 3:54:02 AM Silverblade2
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** [[TheAtoner Elysio]] is probably as popular as any Legendaire.



** Arguably, Tenebris.
3rd Nov '16 5:25:11 PM Theokal3
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** [[JerkassWoobie Kasino]], of all people, [[HiddenDepths turns out to be this]] in ''Origins''.

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** [[JerkassWoobie [[AristocratsAreEvil Kasino]], of all people, [[HiddenDepths turns out to be this]] in ''Origins''.
3rd Nov '16 3:55:48 PM Silverblade2
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* EvilIsCool and CreepyAwesome: Anathos is surprisingly popular amongst the fans despite, or rather precisely because he is the evilest character in the whole serie. Darkhell gets it as well to an extent.

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* EvilIsCool and CreepyAwesome: EvilIsCool: Anathos is surprisingly popular amongst the fans despite, or rather precisely because he is the evilest character in the whole serie. Darkhell gets it as well to an extent.



* JerkassWoobie: Shun-Day and to an extent Shimy, though the latter tends to be less jerkass as the story goes on.
** [[spoiler:Shun-Day becomes more Woobie than ever in Book 15-16, where we find out Gryf never really loved her and just used her feelings for him to speed up the creation of his Katseye and break up with Shimy. To make things worst, her father ends up killed (by ''her own mother'' with that), and she herself dies in a horrible way by the end of the Book.]]
** [[JerkassWoobie Kasino]], of all people, [[HiddenDepths turns out to be this]] in ''Origins''.



** JerkassWoobie: Shun-Day and to an extent Shimy, though the latter tends to be less jerkass as the story goes on.
*** [[spoiler:Shun-Day becomes more Woobie than ever in Book 15-16, where we find out Gryf never really loved her and just used her feelings for him to speed up the creation of his Katseye and break up with Shimy. To make things worst, her father ends up killed (by ''her own mother'' with that), and she herself dies in a horrible way by the end of the Book.]]
*** [[JerkassWoobie Kasino]], of all people, [[HiddenDepths turns out to be this]] in ''Origins''.
** WoobieSpecies: The Jaguarians; despite having tried to live peacefully, they have been constantly chased and slaughtered like beasts by humans, when they are not captured and used in bloody gladiator-like games; They suffer from birth a sickness that turns them into blood-thirsty [[TheBerserker Berserkers]] whenever they are in proximity of other Jaguarians, unless they wear a specific jewel they can never remove and they have to stick on their forehead when reaching adulthood. In the end, they were forced to live hidden and secluded from the world.

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** JerkassWoobie: Shun-Day and to an extent Shimy, though the latter tends to be less jerkass as the story goes on.
*** [[spoiler:Shun-Day becomes more Woobie than ever in Book 15-16, where we find out Gryf never really loved her and just used her feelings for him to speed up the creation of his Katseye and break up with Shimy. To make things worst, her father ends up killed (by ''her own mother'' with that), and she herself dies in a horrible way by the end of the Book.]]
*** [[JerkassWoobie Kasino]], of all people, [[HiddenDepths turns out to be this]] in ''Origins''.
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* WoobieSpecies: The Jaguarians; despite having tried to live peacefully, they have been constantly chased and slaughtered like beasts by humans, when they are not captured and used in bloody gladiator-like games; They suffer from birth a sickness that turns them into blood-thirsty [[TheBerserker Berserkers]] whenever they are in proximity of other Jaguarians, unless they wear a specific jewel they can never remove and they have to stick on their forehead when reaching adulthood. In the end, they were forced to live hidden and secluded from the world.
3rd Nov '16 1:13:20 PM Theokal3
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* TakeThatScrappy: El Diablo is brought back in the "World Without" alternate timeline just to suffer a rather humiliating CurbStompBattle after he [[spoiled:tried to double-cross princess Shun-Day.]]

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* TakeThatScrappy: El Diablo is brought back in the "World Without" alternate timeline just to suffer a rather humiliating CurbStompBattle after he [[spoiled:tried [[spoiler:tried to double-cross princess Shun-Day.]]
3rd Nov '16 1:12:48 PM Theokal3
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* TakeThatScrappy: El Diablo is brought back in the "World Without" alternate timeline just to suffer a rather humiliating CurbStompBattle after he [[spoiled:tried to double-cross princess Shun-Day.]]
2nd Oct '16 7:14:42 AM rufusluciusivan
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gryf doesn't emerge greater from the whole LoveTriangle-affair with Shun-Day and Shimy. [[spoiler:His fear that he may die because of the wound inflicted by Anathos and his decision to leave Shimy in order to BreakHerHeartToSaveHer don't compensate the fact that he lied to Shun-Day and only pretended to love her. He just used her feelings for him to speed up the creation of his Katseye and break up with Shimy, and he doesn't seem that tormented by it, his feelings about the whole ordeal being "Yeah, that sucks for her, but I needed to do that.".]] Doesn't help that, after [[spoiler:Shun-Day is killed, her rival '''Shimy''' of all people seems the most distraught by it.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gryf doesn't emerge greater from the whole LoveTriangle-affair with Shun-Day and Shimy. [[spoiler:His fear that he may die because of the wound inflicted by Anathos and his decision to leave Shimy in order to BreakHerHeartToSaveHer don't compensate the fact that he lied to Shun-Day and only pretended to love her. He just used her feelings for him to speed up the creation of his Katseye and to break up with Shimy, and he doesn't seem that much tormented by it, his feelings about the whole ordeal being "Yeah, that sucks for her, but I needed to do that.".]] Doesn't help that, after [[spoiler:Shun-Day is killed, it's her rival '''Shimy''' of Shimy (of all people people) who seems the most distraught by it.it, not him.]]
2nd Oct '16 7:09:56 AM rufusluciusivan
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** [[TheAtoner Elysio]] is probably as popular as any Legendarie.

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** [[TheAtoner Elysio]] is probably as popular as any Legendarie.Legendaire.



** In the same way, given how DeathIsCheap for the heroes, [[spoiler:it becomes very surprising when it's subverted in the ending of volume 18. All the heroes are killed and not brought back (except Danael et Shimy).

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** In the same way, given how DeathIsCheap for the heroes, [[spoiler:it becomes very surprising when it's subverted in the ending of volume 18. All the heroes are killed and not brought back (except Danael et Shimy).Shimy)]].



*** Kasino, of all people, [[HiddenDepths turns out to be this]] in ''Origins''.

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*** Kasino, [[JerkassWoobie Kasino]], of all people, [[HiddenDepths turns out to be this]] in ''Origins''.
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