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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has such severe manic depression that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep it in check, but it caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself"]], implying that she made attempts before that.

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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has such severe manic depression that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep it in check, but it caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself"]], implying that she made attempts before that.that.
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Indentation and natter


* TheScrappy: Lily has few fans, what with being a [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid man-hater]] who the audience is still expected to sympathise with. It doesn't help that her actual beliefs aren't entirely coherent, as she seems to despise Jamie for being a potential rapist ''and'' for not being man enough to be able to rape anyone. Oh, and despite sincerely wanting men to [[GenderCide go extinct]], she manages to be a HeteronormativeCrusader who thinks lesbianism is a genetic illness to be eliminated (the solution is that everyone should [[{{Robosexual}} have sex with robots,]] apparently).
** Also, while she averts AuthorTract by being the 'loser' in arguments...she never really hits major character growth in 1000 strips...and her growth is shown in a MONTAGE. [[spoiler: She needed pot. She REALLY needed pot.]]
* TheWoobie: Poor Jamie. Gets into a car accident, his insurance company refuses to pay, his lawyer screws him out of his money, the clinic demands payment for not letting them take off his cast, gets mugged, the police charge him with assualt, and the newspaper calls him a racist monster.
** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has such severe manic depression that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep it in check, but it caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?
*** Max has near-identical scars on the top and bottom of her right foot. While this has yet to be addressed in-comic; it's off-handedly mentioned in an author note that [[spoiler:her father once took her hunting and said "this hunting trip isn't over until you've shot something".]] To be fair; it's never explicitly stated that the story and scar are in any way related, and Tailsteak likes to use ExactWords on occasion.

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* TheScrappy: Lily has few fans, what with being a [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid man-hater]] who the audience is still expected to sympathise with. It doesn't help that her actual beliefs aren't entirely coherent, as she seems to despise Jamie for being a potential rapist ''and'' for not being man enough to be able to rape anyone. Oh, and despite sincerely wanting men to [[GenderCide go extinct]], she manages to be a HeteronormativeCrusader who thinks lesbianism is a genetic illness to be eliminated (the solution is that everyone should [[{{Robosexual}} have sex with robots,]] apparently).
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apparently). Also, while she averts AuthorTract by being the 'loser' "loser" in arguments...she never really hits major character growth in 1000 strips...and her growth is shown in a MONTAGE. [[spoiler: She needed pot. She REALLY needed pot.]]
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Poor Jamie. Gets into a car accident, his insurance company refuses to pay, his lawyer screws him out of his money, the clinic demands payment for not letting them take off his cast, gets mugged, the police charge him with assualt, and the newspaper calls him a racist monster.
** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has such severe manic depression that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep it in check, but it caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does myself"]], implying that mean she made attempts before that?
*** Max has near-identical scars on the top and bottom of her right foot. While this has yet to be addressed in-comic; it's off-handedly mentioned in an author note that [[spoiler:her father once took her hunting and said "this hunting trip isn't over until you've shot something".]] To be fair; it's never explicitly stated that the story and scar are in any way related, and Tailsteak likes to use ExactWords on occasion.
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"heteronormative" is one word.


* TheScrappy: Lily has few fans, what with being a [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid man-hater]] who the audience is still expected to sympathise with. It doesn't help that her actual beliefs aren't entirely coherent, as she seems to despise Jamie for being a potential rapist ''and'' for not being man enough to be able to rape anyone. Oh, and despite sincerely wanting men to [[GenderCide go extinct]], she manages to be a HeteroNormativeCrusader who thinks lesbianism is a genetic illness to be eliminated (the solution is that everyone should [[{{Robosexual}} have sex with robots,]] apparently).

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* TheScrappy: Lily has few fans, what with being a [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid man-hater]] who the audience is still expected to sympathise with. It doesn't help that her actual beliefs aren't entirely coherent, as she seems to despise Jamie for being a potential rapist ''and'' for not being man enough to be able to rape anyone. Oh, and despite sincerely wanting men to [[GenderCide go extinct]], she manages to be a HeteroNormativeCrusader HeteronormativeCrusader who thinks lesbianism is a genetic illness to be eliminated (the solution is that everyone should [[{{Robosexual}} have sex with robots,]] apparently).
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* CriticalResearchFailure: One minor plot arc has Gina inconsolable because [=OkCupid=] has refused her service for being unmatchable due to wanting to not even kiss her prospective husband before they are married. This is nowhere close to how most dating sites work [[note]](in short, the usual procedure is that you fill out a standardised form stating your preferences, and then the site's software calculates a percental compatability score with all other users and shows you the top results. No one gets refused service, if your preferences are unusual you're just going to be able to tell as much from the slim pickings the site offers you, and a preference as unusual as "no pre-marital kissing" would be unlikely to exist as an option you could check in the first place)[[/note]], but it might have been excused as just being the way one particular fictional site in the fictional ''Leftover Soup'' universe worked... except it is specifically stated that the site Gina was on was [=OkCupid=], which is a site that exists in the real world and which does not work that way.
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Not YMMV


* AuthorOnBoard: Tailsteak tries hard to avert this at every turn by presenting everyone's point of view fairly, but when he feels strongly about something, it still tends to show.
** [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=86 Martial arts are a scam that don't teach you anything useful about self-defense.]] [[SarcasmMode This surely has nothing to do with Tailsteak's stated dislike of martial arts.]] The exception seems to be Krav Maga, where he goes to the other extreme - apparently [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=624 one month of classes is enough to make a five-foot woman a credible threat to a six-foot man with demonstrated fighting skills.]]
** {{Polyamory}} is completely unproblematic and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dirty bigot. And also, everyone has always done it. [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=792 Including your parents, so there!]] Why yes, Tailsteak is in a polyamorous relationship, [[SarcasmMode what's that got to do with anything?]]
** The police corps is filled with nothing but [[ObstructiveBureaucrat Obstructive Bureaucrats]] and [[CowboyCop Cowboy Cops]] that are apparently so committed to doing nothing right that even though they'll routinely [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=547 pull over upstanding citizens for "driving while black,"]] they'll also believe a [[ScaryBlackMan Scary Black Man's]] side of the story if he and a nice-looking white boy are both brought in with injuries, without even getting a statement from said white boy. And then they'll forge a statement where he admits full guilt to cover their asses.
** In relation to the last point, [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=182 all of the main characters in Leftover Soup are in favour of the decriminalization, regulation and taxation of the recreational use of tetrahydrocannabinol, because all of the main characters in Leftover Soup are rational, intelligent human beings.]] Whereas the police are so much ''not'' rational, intelligent human beings that they will [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=562 arrest you on charges of resisting arrest if they think you are involved with marijuana.]]
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** Also, while she averts AuthorTract by being the 'loser' in arguments...she never really hits major character growth in 1000 strips...and her growth is shown in a MONTAGE. [[spoiler: She needed pot. She REALLY needed pot.]]
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: In one story arc, Jamie and Ellie play a game based on cat hoarding, which makes Ellie sad. Jamie suggests a different game, and Ellie proposes a game set in Auschwitz where you collect skeletons. Jamie's reaction?

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: In one story arc, Jamie and Ellie play a game based on cat hoarding, which makes Ellie sad. Jamie suggests a different game, and Ellie sarcastically proposes a game set in Auschwitz where you collect skeletons. Jamie's reaction?

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: In one story arc, Jamie and Ellie play a game based on cat hoarding, which makes Ellie sad. Jamie suggests a different game, and Ellie proposes a game set in Auschwitz where you collect skeletons. Jamie's reaction? "You mean 'Hungry Hungry Hitler?'"

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: In one story arc, Jamie and Ellie play a game based on cat hoarding, which makes Ellie sad. Jamie suggests a different game, and Ellie proposes a game set in Auschwitz where you collect skeletons. Jamie's reaction? "You reaction?
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: In one story arc, Jamie and Ellie play a game based on cat hoarding, which makes Ellie sad. Jamie suggests a different game, and Ellie proposes a game set in Auschwitz where you collect skeletons. Jamie's reaction? "You mean 'Hungry Hungry Hitler?'"
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* TheScrappy: Lily has few fans, what with being a [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid man-hater]] who the audience is still expected to sympathise with. It doesn't help that her actual beliefs aren't entirely coherent, as she seems to despise Jamie for being a potential rapist ''and'' for not being man enough to be able to rape anyone. Oh, and despite sincerely wanting men to [[GenderCide go extinct]], she manages to be a HeteroNormativeCrusader who thinks lesbianism is a genetic illness to be eliminated (the solution is that everyone should have sex with robots, apparently).

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* TheScrappy: Lily has few fans, what with being a [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid man-hater]] who the audience is still expected to sympathise with. It doesn't help that her actual beliefs aren't entirely coherent, as she seems to despise Jamie for being a potential rapist ''and'' for not being man enough to be able to rape anyone. Oh, and despite sincerely wanting men to [[GenderCide go extinct]], she manages to be a HeteroNormativeCrusader who thinks lesbianism is a genetic illness to be eliminated (the solution is that everyone should [[{{Robosexual}} have sex with robots, robots,]] apparently).
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* TheScrappy: Lily has few fans, what with being a [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid man-hater]] who the audience is still expected to sympathise with. It doesn't help that her actual beliefs aren't entirely coherent, as she seems to despise Jamie for being a potential rapist ''and'' for not being man enough to be able to rape anyone. Oh, and despite sincerely wanting men to [[GenderCide go extinct]], she manages to be a HeteroNormativeCrusader who thinks lesbianism is a genetic illness to be eliminated (the solution is that everyone should have sex with robots, apparently).
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* CriticalResearchFailure: One minor plot arc has Gina inconsolable because [=OkCupid=] has refused her service for being unmatchable due to wanting to not even kiss her prospective husband before they are married. This is nowhere close to how most dating sites work [[note]](in short, the usual procedure is that you fill out a standardised form stating your preferences, and then the site's software calculates a percental compatability score with all other users and shows you the top results. No one gets refused service, if your preferences are unusual you're just going to be able to tell as much from the slim pickings the site offers you, and a preference as unusual as "no pre-marital kissing" would be unlikely to exist as an option you could check in the first place)[[/note]], but it might have been excused as just being the way one particular fictional site in the fictional ''Leftover Soup'' universe worked... except it is specifically stated that the site Gina was on was [=OkCupid=], which is a site that exists in the real world and which does not work that way.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The plotline in which Jamie, acting in self-defense, is falsely accused of assaulting a black teenager bears uncomfortable similarities to George Zimmerman's side of the story in his shooting of Trayvon Martin, which took place months after this storyline began in the comic.
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bleas


** PolyAmory is completely unproblematic and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dirty bigot. And also, everyone has always done it. [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=792 Including your parents, so there!]] Why yes, Tailsteak is in a polyamorous relationship, [[SarcasmMode what's that got to do with anything?]]

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** PolyAmory {{Polyamory}} is completely unproblematic and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dirty bigot. And also, everyone has always done it. [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=792 Including your parents, so there!]] Why yes, Tailsteak is in a polyamorous relationship, [[SarcasmMode what's that got to do with anything?]]
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I can't believe I put that example in there! I don't even remember doing it... But it's gone now at any rate, because they finally uh... Porked. Can't think of anything to do with it now.



* WhatAnIdiot: Jamie seems to [[spoiler:be really good at passing up his chances to ''finally have sex with Ellen''.]]

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in-universe examples can go on the main page


* AcceptableTargets: [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=223 Discussed]] in TheRant, as Tailsteak feigning outrage at complaints that the character of [[ScaryBlackMan Richard]] was racist.
-->'''Tailsteak:''' Richard was a one-dimensional brute, not because of his race, but because he was male, seventeen, poor, stupid, and had a habit of abusing recreational narcotics. I'm not a racist - I'm a sexist, an ageist, a classist, an intellectualist, and a narcoticist! Those are all socially acceptable prejudices.



* DudeNotFunny: In universe, Jamie's homebrew games ''Cat Burglar'' and ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'', about being an animal hoarder and running a concentration camp, respectively. Ellen was offended by ''Cat Burglar'' and sarcastically posited the plot to ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'' as a hypothetical way to top it in terms of vileness; whereupon Jamie revealed he had done such a thing.

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* DudeNotFunny: In universe, Jamie's homebrew games ''Cat Burglar'' and ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'', about being an animal hoarder and running a concentration camp, respectively. Ellen was offended by ''Cat Burglar'' and sarcastically posited the plot to ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'' as a hypothetical way to top it in terms of vileness; whereupon Jamie revealed he had done such a thing.
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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has such severe manic depression that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep it in check, but it caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?

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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has such severe manic depression that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep it in check, but it caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?that?
*** Max has near-identical scars on the top and bottom of her right foot. While this has yet to be addressed in-comic; it's off-handedly mentioned in an author note that [[spoiler:her father once took her hunting and said "this hunting trip isn't over until you've shot something".]] To be fair; it's never explicitly stated that the story and scar are in any way related, and Tailsteak likes to use ExactWords on occasion.
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* DudeNotFunny: Jamie's homebrew games ''Cat Burglar'' and ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'', about being an animal hoarder and running a concentration camp, respectively.

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* DudeNotFunny: In universe, Jamie's homebrew games ''Cat Burglar'' and ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'', about being an animal hoarder and running a concentration camp, respectively.respectively. Ellen was offended by ''Cat Burglar'' and sarcastically posited the plot to ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'' as a hypothetical way to top it in terms of vileness; whereupon Jamie revealed he had done such a thing.
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* DudeNotFunny: Jamie's homebrew games ''Cat Burglar'' and ''Hungry Hungry Hitler'', about being an animal hoarder and running a concentration camp, respectively.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Jamie seems to [[spoiler:be really good at passing up his chances to ''finally have sex with Ellen''.]]
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* AuthorOnBoard: Tailsteak tries hard to avert this at every turn by presenting everyone's point of view fairly, but when he feels strongly about something, it still tends to show.
** [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=86 Martial arts are a scam that don't teach you anything useful about self-defense.]] [[SarcasmMode This surely has nothing to do with Tailsteak's stated dislike of martial arts.]] The exception seems to be Krav Maga, where he goes to the other extreme - apparently [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=624 one month of classes is enough to make a five-foot woman a credible threat to a six-foot man with demonstrated fighting skills.]]
** PolyAmory is completely unproblematic and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dirty bigot. And also, everyone has always done it. [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=792 Including your parents, so there!]] Why yes, Tailsteak is in a polyamorous relationship, [[SarcasmMode what's that got to do with anything?]]
** The police corps is filled with nothing but [[ObstructiveBureaucrat Obstructive Bureaucrats]] and [[CowboyCop Cowboy Cops]] that are apparently so committed to doing nothing right that even though they'll routinely [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=547 pull over upstanding citizens for "driving while black,"]] they'll also believe a [[ScaryBlackMan Scary Black Man's]] side of the story if he and a nice-looking white boy are both brought in with injuries, without even getting a statement from said white boy. And then they'll forge a statement where he admits full guilt to cover their asses.
** In relation to the last point, [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=182 all of the main characters in Leftover Soup are in favour of the decriminalization, regulation and taxation of the recreational use of tetrahydrocannabinol, because all of the main characters in Leftover Soup are rational, intelligent human beings.]] Whereas the police are so much ''not'' rational, intelligent human beings that they will [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=562 arrest you on charges of resisting arrest if they think you are involved with marijuana.]]
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* AcceptableTargets: Discussed in TheRant.

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* AcceptableTargets: Discussed [[http://leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=223 Discussed]] in TheRant.TheRant, as Tailsteak feigning outrage at complaints that the character of [[ScaryBlackMan Richard]] was racist.
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* AcceptableTargets: Discussed in TheRant.
-->'''Tailsteak:''' Richard was a one-dimensional brute, not because of his race, but because he was male, seventeen, poor, stupid, and had a habit of abusing recreational narcotics. I'm not a racist - I'm a sexist, an ageist, a classist, an intellectualist, and a narcoticist! Those are all socially acceptable prejudices.
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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has mental disorders so severe that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep them in check, but they caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?

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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has mental disorders so such severe manic depression that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep them it in check, but they it caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?
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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has mental disorders so severe that they caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?

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** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has mental disorders so severe that she not only requires a cocktail of medications to keep them in check, but they caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?
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- Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has mental disorders so severe that they caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?

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- ** Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has mental disorders so severe that they caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?
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* TheWoobie: Poor Jamie. Gets into a car accident, his insurance company refuses to pay, his lawyer screws him out of his money, the clinic demands payment for not letting them take off his cast, gets mugged, the police charge him with assualt, and the newspaper calls him a racist monster.

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* TheWoobie: Poor Jamie. Gets into a car accident, his insurance company refuses to pay, his lawyer screws him out of his money, the clinic demands payment for not letting them take off his cast, gets mugged, the police charge him with assualt, and the newspaper calls him a racist monster.monster.
- Max is starting to shape up to be one, too. Information gleaned from various points at the comic tell us that Max was severely bullied in high school, [[spoiler:had an older brother who was in the military and died in a training accident, and has mental disorders so severe that they caused her to attempt suicide four years prior to the comic's beginning.]] And finally, a note on that last part: when talking about it, Max refers to it as "the last time [[spoiler:I tried to drown myself."]] Does that mean she made attempts before that?
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* TheWoobie: Poor Jamie. Gets into a car accident, his insurance company refuses to pay, his lawyer screws him out of his money, the clinic demands payment for not letting them take off his cast, gets mugged, the police charge him with assualt, and the newspaper call him a racist monster.

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* TheWoobie: Poor Jamie. Gets into a car accident, his insurance company refuses to pay, his lawyer screws him out of his money, the clinic demands payment for not letting them take off his cast, gets mugged, the police charge him with assualt, and the newspaper call calls him a racist monster.
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* TheWoobie: Poor Jamie. Gets into a car accident, his insurance company refuses to pay, his lawyer screws him out of his money, the clinic demands payment for not letting them take off his cast, gets mugged, the police charge him with assualt, and the newspaper call him a racist monster.

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