History YMMV / Left4Dead2

23rd Jul '17 2:38:51 PM FromtheWordsofBR
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** The finale of The Parish, '''full. stop.''' Even on Easy with experienced non-CPU players, it's extremely difficult to complete. From having to get across a long, ''long'' beaten-down bridge from Hell, to the never-ending amounts of zombies that spawn. And just when you think you're about to head quickly to rescue, you have to navigate a somewhat-confusing path of concrete barriers... and there's yet another Tank which spawns during this section. Hope you've got a medkit and adrenaline shot on standby.
21st Jul '17 7:20:58 PM Benbeasted
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** Then again, Zoey calls for his name the most out of the survivor's and has lines explicitly wanting ''him'' to be with them.
5th Jul '17 8:32:05 PM Angeldeb82
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** He does seem ''[[http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Ellis/Quotes#Weapon_Related awfully]]'' fond of [[AxCrazy axes.]]

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** He does seem ''[[http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Ellis/Quotes#Weapon_Related awfully]]'' fond of [[AxCrazy axes.]]{{ax|Crazy}}es.



** Not to mention how they persistently try to heal you the second your health drops below 40. They adjust their "judgement" a little depending on how much temporary life you have, but not very much. All those wasted med kits…
* BestLevelEver: The finale of ''Dark Carnival'' features the survivors entering into the stadium at Whispering Oaks, planning to use the lights to attract a nearby helicopter. However, as soon as the lights are turned on, the music begins to play! What follows is a prolonged, yet amazing battle in which you fight hordes to the sound of the Midnight Riders, and at two points on your journey through the finale, Tanks come to fight you on the stage.

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** Not to mention how they persistently try to heal you the second your health drops below 40. They adjust their "judgement" a little depending on how much temporary life you have, but not very much. All those wasted med kits…
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* BestLevelEver: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: In ''Left 4 Dead 2'', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUINppvNso0 RE: Your Brains]] can be played on the jukeboxes found in some of the campaigns. It signals a Horde attack right after the line "But here's an FYI, you're all gonna die screaming." ''The Horde's screams are right in time with the chorus that follows.''
** While defending from the stage of a rock concert, ''Left 4 Dead 2'' sends you [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpnARroePF8 One Bad Tank]] with the tank theme turned up to METAL.
*** As well as [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6n1o0YheM Midnight Tank]], which plays for the other Tank of the finale.
** The Hard Rain rendition of the menu theme is by far the most awesome cover ''EVER.'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_7C8oN2klY Listen to it once and you'll never go back!]]
* [[Awesome/VideoGameLevels Awesome Video Game Level]]:
The finale of ''Dark Carnival'' features the survivors entering into the stadium at Whispering Oaks, planning to use the lights to attract a nearby helicopter. However, as soon as the lights are turned on, the music begins to play! What follows is a prolonged, yet amazing battle in which you fight hordes to the sound of the Midnight Riders, and at two points on your journey through the finale, Tanks come to fight you on the stage.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: In ''Left 4 Dead 2'', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUINppvNso0 RE: Your Brains]] can be played on the jukeboxes found in some of the campaigns. It signals a Horde attack right after the line "But here's an FYI, you're all gonna die screaming." ''The Horde's screams are right in time with the chorus that follows.''
** While defending from the stage of a rock concert, ''Left 4 Dead 2'' sends you [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpnARroePF8 One Bad Tank]] with the tank theme turned up to METAL.
*** As well as [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6n1o0YheM Midnight Tank]], which plays for the other Tank of the finale.
** The Hard Rain rendition of the menu theme is by far the most awesome cover ''EVER.'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_7C8oN2klY Listen to it once and you'll never go back!]]



* HoYayShipping: [[MrFanservice Nick x Ellis]]. It seems like [[FanPreferredCouple 99% of ''Left 4 Dead'' fanfiction is about this pairing]]. Of course you could argue that Nick and Rochelle [[OppositesAttract have lines suggesting they are more attracted to each other]], and now with [[DownloadableContent The Passing]] that [[ShipTease Ellis showed an interest in Zoey.]] But nothing seems to stop the Ellis/Nick train.

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* HoYayShipping: HoYay: [[MrFanservice Nick x Ellis]]. Ellis.]] It seems like [[FanPreferredCouple 99% of ''Left of]] ''[[FanPreferredCouple Left 4 Dead'' Dead]]'' [[FanPreferredCouple fanfiction is about this pairing]]. Of course you could argue that Nick and Rochelle [[OppositesAttract have lines suggesting they are more attracted to each other]], and now with [[DownloadableContent The Passing]] that [[ShipTease Ellis showed an interest in Zoey.]] Zoey]]. But nothing seems to stop the Ellis/Nick train.



* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: One common complain of Left 4 Dead 2 is that it's too similar to the first game - it's still four civilians with guns facing off against hundreds of zombies, only now they're in the South and have melee wapons.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameNowItSucks: One common complain of Left 4 Dead 2 is that it's too similar to the first game - it's still four civilians with guns facing off against hundreds of zombies, only now they're in the South and have melee wapons.weapons.



* MostWonderfulSound:

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* MostWonderfulSound: SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound:



* SpecialEffectsFailure: When "The Passing" campaign was released, Zoey had used Nick's skeleton model, stretching her arms to unusually bizarre proportions, which was fixed later on.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: SpecialEffectFailure: When "The Passing" campaign was released, Zoey had used Nick's skeleton model, stretching her arms to unusually bizarre proportions, which was fixed later on.



*** To clarify on the traps and such, there are some paintings that colored yellow and knocking them over reveals either an item or a special infected in a wall. Purple paintings triggers a Tank and [[ButThouMust you have to hit them to proceed.]] Red paintings then start to show up, which alerts a horde should you hit it and later on, you not only encounter a room full of these triggers, but you also find another room that has [[SerialEscalation alarmed urinals, toilets, tables, refrigerators and statues!]] Some parts of the floors in certain maps change into a glass square that shatters when you walk on it, forcing you to hang from the ledge. You can simply approach this area slowly so the triggers happen early, but there's a second set of these traps later on that you are forced to rush through due to a gauntlet event. As for the pipe platforming mentioned above? The first pipe course can be taken slowly so you can watch where the cars fall (at least, until you wait too long and ''the pipes retract into the wall'') but the pipe platforms appear in the rush to the ending in the finale and you have to work your way down while a horde and a Tank are hot on your ass. Bots are generally horrible for this campaign.

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*** To clarify on the traps and such, there are some paintings that colored yellow and knocking them over reveals either an item or a special infected in a wall. Purple paintings triggers a Tank and [[ButThouMust you have to hit them to proceed.]] proceed]]. Red paintings then start to show up, which alerts a horde should you hit it and later on, you not only encounter a room full of these triggers, but you also find another room that has [[SerialEscalation alarmed urinals, toilets, tables, refrigerators and statues!]] statues]]! Some parts of the floors in certain maps change into a glass square that shatters when you walk on it, forcing you to hang from the ledge. You can simply approach this area slowly so the triggers happen early, but there's a second set of these traps later on that you are forced to rush through due to a gauntlet event. As for the pipe platforming mentioned above? The first pipe course can be taken slowly so you can watch where the cars fall (at least, until you wait too long and ''the pipes retract into the wall'') but the pipe platforms appear in the rush to the ending in the finale and you have to work your way down while a horde and a Tank are hot on your ass. Bots are generally horrible for this campaign.



** Not quite as bad as the above, as it's more fatiguing than challenging, but the "Suicide Blitz 2" custom campaign is [[MarathonLevel 50% too long]]. Add in the EasterEgg at the end, which requires you to [[TheLoad carry Gnome Chompski]] through 95% of the first four levels, and it gets even longer. Fortunately the easter egg itself is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome absolutely worth the trouble]].
** The "Detour Ahead" campaign is overall very balanced... except for the finale, which isn't a DifficultySpike as it is a Difficulty ''Spire''. Right after you get started on collecting fuel for a chopper to bail you out of the city, a plane crashes, and suddenly the entire city is after you: all of the time, you'll have a mob around the size of '''two''' Hordes hot on your trail, with more coming both from the front and the sides of the road. And ''they don't stop coming, even when the Tanks spawn''. To boot, the finale is ''[[MarathonLevel long]]'', with the way to the fuel truck spanning about the length of the Bridge finale in "The Parish" – and you have to backtrack the entire way to the heli. [[SarcasmMode Fun]]. You will be VERY lucky if you manage to escape with one bot… on Easy. A re-balancing GameMod (or two) is a must for an enjoyable experience.
* TheWoobie: Ellis. Just... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_8hJsgZSNA poor Ellis...]] You can't help but feel somewhat bad for Ellis in the trailer when he's at the mercy of almost every Special Infected that appears. Or his absolute horror when he finds out his idol Jimmy Gibbs has been turned to a zombie. Getting constantly picked on by Nick contributes to him being the Woobie. Though this doesn't stop him from picking back:
--> '''Ellis:''' Nick, there's a turd on your shoulder.\\
'''Nick:''' I hate you, Ellis.

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** Not quite as bad as the above, as it's more fatiguing than challenging, but the "Suicide Blitz 2" custom campaign is [[MarathonLevel 50% too long]]. Add in the EasterEgg at the end, which requires you to [[TheLoad carry Gnome Chompski]] through 95% of the first four levels, and it gets even longer. Fortunately the easter Easter egg itself is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome absolutely worth the trouble]].
** The "Detour Ahead" campaign is overall very balanced... except for the finale, which isn't a DifficultySpike as it is a Difficulty ''Spire''. Right after you get started on collecting fuel for a chopper to bail you out of the city, a plane crashes, and suddenly the entire city is after you: all of the time, you'll have a mob around the size of '''two''' Hordes hot on your trail, with more coming both from the front and the sides of the road. And ''they don't stop coming, even when the Tanks spawn''. To boot, the finale is ''[[MarathonLevel long]]'', with the way to the fuel truck spanning about the length of the Bridge finale in "The Parish" – and you have to backtrack the entire way to the heli. [[SarcasmMode Fun]]. Fun.]] You will be VERY lucky if you manage to escape with one bot… on Easy. A re-balancing GameMod (or two) is a must for an enjoyable experience.
* TheWoobie: Ellis. Just... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_8hJsgZSNA poor Ellis...]] You can't help but feel somewhat bad for Ellis in the trailer when he's at the mercy of almost every Special Infected that appears. Or his absolute horror when he finds out his idol Jimmy Gibbs has been turned to a zombie. Getting constantly picked on by Nick contributes to him being the Woobie. Though this doesn't stop him from picking back:
--> '''Ellis:''' Nick, there's a turd on your shoulder.\\
'''Nick:''' I hate you, Ellis.
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* TheWoobie: Ellis. Just... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_8hJsgZSNA poor Ellis...]] You can't help but feel somewhat bad for Ellis in the trailer when he's at the mercy of almost every Special Infected that appears. Or his absolute horror when he finds out his idol Jimmy Gibbs has been turned to a zombie. Getting constantly picked on by Nick contributes to him being the Woobie. Though this doesn't stop him from picking back:
--> '''Ellis:''' Nick, there's a turd on your shoulder.\\
'''Nick:''' I hate you, Ellis.
1st Jul '17 2:33:16 AM Brawny
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1st Jul '17 2:33:03 AM Brawny
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* {{Scrub}}: ''Left 4 Dead 2'' has a ton of these when it comes to VS mode. Let's just say that if anyone tries to talk about the game's balance, you will mostly hear how the survivors are too powerful or how Congfogl is the more "proper" mode to play since they feel it's more balanced. You can also see scrubs come out of the woodwork in VS mode whenever a survivor kills them with the grenade launcher and then complain later on that the weapon should never spawn.
13th Jan '17 8:27:18 AM Riverstyx197
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** ''Left 4 Dead 2'' in general is a base breaker that divided fans between those who like the sequel and those that hate it.
** The Cold Stream campaign divided up the fan base between people who find it refreshing and everyone else hating it for being crap compared to other custom maps and how their favorite campaigns should have been in the DLC instead.
6th Jan '17 8:21:35 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight: Coach on the Jockey: "It ain't right for a man to be ridden like that!"
26th Sep '16 1:52:53 AM GojiBiscuits
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* BestLevelEver: The finale of ''Dark Carnival'' features the survivors entering into the stadium at Whispering Oaks, planning to use the lights to attract a nearby helicopter. However, as soon as the lights are turned on, the music begins to play! What follows is a prolonged, yet amazing battle in which you fight hordes to the sound of the Midnight Riders, and at two points on your journey through the finale, Tanks come to fight you on the stage.
7th Sep '16 2:16:58 PM BossKey
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** 1. bind <key> "vocalize UseAdrenaline" 2. Play as Ellis. 3. Press that key over and over. 4. [[MissingStepsPlan ???]] 5. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv_EkOrhRQk WUBUBUBUBUBU]]. Unfortunately patched within a few months, but that's where custom vocalization menus come in.

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** 1. bind <key> "vocalize UseAdrenaline" [=UseAdrenaline=]" 2. Play as Ellis. 3. Press that key over and over. 4. [[MissingStepsPlan ???]] 5. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv_EkOrhRQk WUBUBUBUBUBU]]. Unfortunately patched within a few months, but that's where custom vocalization menus come in.



** [[AnnoyingLaugh The Jockey's laugh]] seems to be designed to make you want to find the little bugger as quickly as possible so you can shut him up with an axe to the face.



* ScrappyWeapon: The Hunting Rifle is often chided as being a straight downgrade from the Sniper Rifle. To iterate: the Sniper Rifle has a magazine of 30 bullets and a capacity of 180 bullets while the Hunting Rifle has a mere 15 bullet magazine and 150 bullet capacity. The only difference aside from that is the Hunting Rifle's moving accuracy, which is tighter than that of the Sniper Rifle. However, when using the scope moving accuracy is completely redundant (to the point of it being a DumpStat), and it's far more effective to shoot while stationary (except when fighting the Tank, in which it's often close enough to still render moving accuracy moot).

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* ScrappyWeapon: The Hunting Rifle is often chided as being a straight downgrade from the Sniper Rifle. To iterate: the Sniper Rifle has a magazine of 30 bullets and a capacity of 180 bullets while the Hunting Rifle has a mere 15 bullet magazine and 150 bullet capacity. The only difference aside from that is the Hunting Rifle's moving accuracy, which is tighter than that of the Sniper Rifle. However, when using the scope moving accuracy is completely redundant (to the point of it being a DumpStat), and it's far more effective to shoot while stationary (except when fighting the Tank, in which it's often close enough - and large enough - to still render moving accuracy moot).
29th Aug '16 8:39:13 PM BleuStar365
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*** And of course, [[HeroWorshipper Ellis]] openly admitted that he'd it willing to bear Jimmy Gibbs Jr.'s children.

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*** ** And of course, [[HeroWorshipper Ellis]] openly admitted that he'd it willing to bear Jimmy Gibbs Jr.'s children.
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