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** The Experiment boss in Halloween Town just wanted to have a heart of its own, and it stealing presents was it's desperate attempt to understand the motivation behind giving. Being forced to put the poor thing out of its misery can edge into TearJerker territory.
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** The Experiment boss in Halloween Town just wanted to have a heart of its own, and it stealing presents was it's its desperate attempt to understand the motivation behind giving. Being forced to put the poor thing out of its misery can edge into TearJerker territory.
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* ContestedSequel: Due to the aforementioned KudzuPlot and (YourMileageMayVary) CharacterDerailment. And the [[DracoInLeatherPants Organization.]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Oh god,]] [[BaseBreaker the Organization.]] Everyone seems to agree that the gameplay was improved, however (though even that's no guurantee...)
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* ContestedSequel: Due to the aforementioned KudzuPlot and (YourMileageMayVary) CharacterDerailment. And the [[DracoInLeatherPants Organization.]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Oh god,]] [[BaseBreaker the Organization.]] Everyone seems to agree that the gameplay was improved, however (though even that's no guurantee...guarantee...)
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* DethroningMusicOfSuck: "Swim This Way" and "A New Day is Dawning" in Atlantica. We hear ''Donald singing'' and we're apparently supposed to take it seriously. [[VillainSong Ursula's Revenge]] is cool though.
** YouTube those songs in Japanese. Listen. LAUGH.
** YouTube those songs in Japanese. Listen. LAUGH.
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** Demyx's got just TWO scenes in ''[=KH2=]'', but you wouldn't know that looking at his fanbase...
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* BaseBreaker: While Demyx's an EnsembleDarkhorse, some fans hate him for being ThatOneBoss.
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** Xaldin's sideburns are practically a character of their own.
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* ThatOneAttack:
** If you don't knock Xaldin out of it, he will ride his lances like a dragon and blow a massive windgust across the arena. It is undodgeable, but it is Reflectable ([[GuideDangit assuming you try to use reflega,]] which is unlikely during your first time through.)
** Demyx summons water clones. If you don't defeat them in time, this triggers a NonStandardGameOver as Demyx walks up to an exhausted Sora and the game FadeToBlack. When low on health he will summon 99 clones and give you 30 seconds to live. There is an ActionCommand to pre-empt his performance, but you need to be [[GetBackHereBoss close to him.]] [[FanWank Maybe he's playing a song that will extract Sora's heart if it's not interrupted?]]
** If you don't knock Xaldin out of it, he will ride his lances like a dragon and blow a massive windgust across the arena. It is undodgeable, but it is Reflectable ([[GuideDangit assuming you try to use reflega,]] which is unlikely during your first time through.)
** Demyx summons water clones. If you don't defeat them in time, this triggers a NonStandardGameOver as Demyx walks up to an exhausted Sora and the game FadeToBlack. When low on health he will summon 99 clones and give you 30 seconds to live. There is an ActionCommand to pre-empt his performance, but you need to be [[GetBackHereBoss close to him.]] [[FanWank Maybe he's playing a song that will extract Sora's heart if it's not interrupted?]]
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* AlasPoorVillain: The Experiment boss in Halloween Town just wanted to have a heart of its own, and it stealing presents was it's desperate attempt to understand the motivation behind giving. Being forced to put the poor thing out of its misery can edge into TearJerker territory.
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* AlasPoorVillain: AlasPoorVillain:
** The Experiment boss in Halloween Town just wanted to have a heart of its own, and it stealing presents was it's desperate attempt to understand the motivation behind giving. Being forced to put the poor thing out of its misery can edge into TearJerkerterritory.territory.
** Saïx.
--> "Kingdom Hearts... where is... my heart?"
** Axel, although it's more like Alas Poor Anti Villain.
** Demyx.
--> "NO WAAAAAAAAAAY! *Sob*"
** Luxord.
--> "How could you, Roxas?"
** The Experiment boss in Halloween Town just wanted to have a heart of its own, and it stealing presents was it's desperate attempt to understand the motivation behind giving. Being forced to put the poor thing out of its misery can edge into TearJerker
** Saïx.
--> "Kingdom Hearts... where is... my heart?"
** Axel, although it's more like Alas Poor Anti Villain.
** Demyx.
--> "NO WAAAAAAAAAAY! *Sob*"
** Luxord.
--> "How could you, Roxas?"
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** While it was probably just for gameplay's sake, the fact that Scar's Heartless retained its normal shape (much like Ansem above) has some fans wondering how strong Scar's blackened heart really was.
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** Pete's former self had, even if he was weaker back than, a lot more guts than his new self. Though he does seem to regain some of his former toughness when confronted by Mickey "the boat-boy king" at the end of the game.
-->'''Pete:''' "What, you mean like abandon ship? I don't think so! BRING 'EM ON!"
-->'''Pete:''' "What, you mean like abandon ship? I don't think so! BRING 'EM ON!"
* JerkassWoobie: Present Pete, once you see what Maleficent puts him through during the Timeless River scenario.
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* VillainDecay: Maleficent. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] due to the circumstances.
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* VillainDecay: VillainDecay:
** Maleficent. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] due to thecircumstances.circumstances.
** With each new game Jafar shows up in, this seems to happen to him.
** All the Disney villains can fit this except Hades. They try to get back their former glory in ''Kingdom Hearts II''
** Maleficent. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] due to the
** With each new game Jafar shows up in, this seems to happen to him.
** All the Disney villains can fit this except Hades. They try to get back their former glory in ''Kingdom Hearts II''
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* AngstWhatAngst: When you get to Olympus in ''KHII'', Hercules denies the fact that he's exhausted by fighting all the monsters that Hades is sending topside from the Underworld. He breaks this act when he sees the destroyed Coliseum.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Roxas was popular enough among certain fans that he got to star in his very own [[KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 video game]]. Still, others hate his guts because of the [[ScrappyLevel 3 hour long tutorial portion of the game]]. So in short, Roxas is [[BaseBreaker half the fanbase's Ensemble Darkhorse and the other half's Scrappy.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Roxas was popular enough among certain fans that he got to star in his very own [[KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 video game]]. Still, others hate his guts because of the [[ScrappyLevel 3 hour long tutorial portion of the game]]. So in short, Roxas is [[BaseBreaker half the fanbase's Ensemble Darkhorse and the other half's Scrappy.]]]]
** Jack Sparrow seems to be this when it comes to the Disney allies.
** Roxas was popular enough among certain fans that he got to star in his very own [[KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 video game]]. Still, others hate his guts because of the [[ScrappyLevel 3 hour long tutorial portion of the game]]. So in short, Roxas is [[BaseBreaker half the fanbase's Ensemble Darkhorse and the other half's Scrappy.
** Jack Sparrow seems to be this when it comes to the Disney allies.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Yen Sid, for the same reasons as Sora and Ansem.
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* CharacterDerailment: In the original ''Final Fantasy VII'', Tifa was rather [[ShrinkingViolet withdrawn]] and [[CannotSpitItOut hesitant]] personality-wise despite being an ActionGirl. In [=KH2=], she has more of a generic tough attitude.
* EpilepticTrees:
** Many have been inclined to believe that this Auron is not an AlternateUniverse version, but ''THE'' Auron from ''X'' thanks to the fact that the words heard when Sora obtains the Auron statue are his quotes from his pilgrimage with Braska and Jecht. [[spoiler:A joint theory goes on to say that Auron wound up in the ''KH'' universe after his death at the hands of Yunalesca in ''X''. After dispersing into pyreflies at the end of the game, he goes on to Dream Zanarkand, effectively setting ''Final Fantasy X'' into motion. Said theory is used to explain why Auron has his youthful appearance as seen in flashbacks.]]
** Fans believe the letter Squall was reading in the credits reel of ''II'' came from his [[OfficialCouple girlfriend]] Rinoa Heartilly, due to the [[AnimalMotifs butterfly]] that fluttered out of it.
** Many have been inclined to believe that this Auron is not an AlternateUniverse version, but ''THE'' Auron from ''X'' thanks to the fact that the words heard when Sora obtains the Auron statue are his quotes from his pilgrimage with Braska and Jecht. [[spoiler:A joint theory goes on to say that Auron wound up in the ''KH'' universe after his death at the hands of Yunalesca in ''X''. After dispersing into pyreflies at the end of the game, he goes on to Dream Zanarkand, effectively setting ''Final Fantasy X'' into motion. Said theory is used to explain why Auron has his youthful appearance as seen in flashbacks.]]
** Fans believe the letter Squall was reading in the credits reel of ''II'' came from his [[OfficialCouple girlfriend]] Rinoa Heartilly, due to the [[AnimalMotifs butterfly]] that fluttered out of it.
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* MemeticBadass: Maleficent manages to become this in a rather literal sense. She comes back from the dead simply by the fairies remembering ''she existed.''
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** Maleficent manages to become this in a rather literal sense. She comes back from the dead simply by the fairies remembering ''she existed.''
** Maleficent manages to become this in a rather literal sense. She comes back from the dead simply by the fairies remembering ''she existed.''
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** Auron. Carries over from the source material, but it's easy to see why. When Hades said that he was going to summon the "the mother of all bad guys", many a fan intentionally misheard it as "the mother of all Badasses".
*MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
** [[MostAnnoyingSound GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK!]]
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** [[MostAnnoyingSound GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK!]]
** "Isn't this romantic?" A ShoutOut to Seifer's "romantic dream" of being a knight in ''Final Fantasy VIII''.
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** Roxas. [[BaseBreaker Unless you hate him.]]]]
** Vivi. Yes, even here.
** Roxas. [[BaseBreaker Unless you hate him.
** Vivi. Yes, even here.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Pretty much describes the reaction to Tron being in the game.
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* AudioErotica: C'mon, don't tell me you didn't love Sora's "Under the Sea" vocals!
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* AlasPoorVillain: The Experiment boss in Halloween Town just wanted to have a heart of its own, and it stealing presents was it's desperate attempt to understand the motivation behind giving. Being forced to put the poor thing out of its misery can edge into TearJerker territory.
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* ItGetsBetter: After the LongestPrologueEver.
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** [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]] on whether or not this overlaps with BittersweetEnding.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The ending.
* DullSurprise: Mena Suvari's performance as Aerith is often seen as this.
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* LargeHam: Ansem again. The new guy, Richard Epcar, seemed to try pretty hard to out-ham Billy Zane, resulting in:
--> '''KINGDOOOOM HEEEAAAAARTS'''! '''FILL ME'', WITH THE '''POWER''' OF '''DARKNESS!'''
** Epcar has since stated in a podcast interview that the voice directors kind of forced his performance then and that he was free to have more restraint in Re:Chain of Memories.
--> '''KINGDOOOOM HEEEAAAAARTS'''! '''FILL ME'', WITH THE '''POWER''' OF '''DARKNESS!'''
** Epcar has since stated in a podcast interview that the voice directors kind of forced his performance then and that he was free to have more restraint in Re:Chain of Memories.
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* LargeHam: Ansem again. The new guy, Richard Epcar, seemed InNameOnly: Oh [[FinalFantasyVI Setzer]], what did they ''do'' to try pretty hard to out-ham Billy Zane, resulting in:
--> '''KINGDOOOOM HEEEAAAAARTS'''! '''FILL ME'', WITH THE '''POWER''' OF '''DARKNESS!'''
** Epcar has since stated in a podcast interview that the voice directors kind of forced his performance then and that he was free to have more restraint in Re:Chain of Memories.you?
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Killing [[spoiler:Goofy]]? Unlikely.
--> '''KINGDOOOOM HEEEAAAAARTS'''! '''FILL ME'', WITH THE '''POWER''' OF '''DARKNESS!'''
** Epcar has since stated in a podcast interview that the voice directors kind of forced his performance then and that he was free to have more restraint in Re:Chain of Memories.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Killing [[spoiler:Goofy]]? Unlikely.
* {{Retcon}}: The existence of Nobodies, and the revelation that Ansem had actually [[spoiler:stolen his name from the real Ansem]] in the first game.
** The total [[AssPull shock]] of this is lampshaded by Mickey and Sora's conversation when it first comes up. When Mickey states the Retconned version, Sora drags him up to [[spoiler:Xehanort's portrait]] and attempts to remind him that ''this'' is [[spoiler:Ansem. You know, the guy we all worked reeeeeeeeally hard to defeat?]] All the while treating him as a total loon. Once he's explained:
--->'''Sora:''' You mean...
--->'''Donald and Goofy:''' Hmm...
--->''(palpable silence)''
--->'''Sora, Donald, and Goofy:''' Whaaaaaaaaaaat!?
* SavedByTheFans: Axel was supposed to die in the 'LongestPrologueEver', but fan outcry (including fans of his ''on the Kingdom Hearts staff'') gave him a [[DemotedToExtra small part]] in the story and [[spoiler: a fanbase-splitting death]].
--> [[WordOfGod Tetsuya Nomura]] from [[NoExportForYou Kingdom Hearts Character Report volume 2:]] "I didn't think he would come this far. To begin with, he was supposed to be gone after Roxas defeats him towards the start. However, the entire staff, including myself, ended up pushing it so that he would return."
** The total [[AssPull shock]] of this is lampshaded by Mickey and Sora's conversation when it first comes up. When Mickey states the Retconned version, Sora drags him up to [[spoiler:Xehanort's portrait]] and attempts to remind him that ''this'' is [[spoiler:Ansem. You know, the guy we all worked reeeeeeeeally hard to defeat?]] All the while treating him as a total loon. Once he's explained:
--->'''Sora:''' You mean...
--->'''Donald and Goofy:''' Hmm...
--->''(palpable silence)''
--->'''Sora, Donald, and Goofy:''' Whaaaaaaaaaaat!?
* SavedByTheFans: Axel was supposed to die in the 'LongestPrologueEver', but fan outcry (including fans of his ''on the Kingdom Hearts staff'') gave him a [[DemotedToExtra small part]] in the story and [[spoiler: a fanbase-splitting death]].
--> [[WordOfGod Tetsuya Nomura]] from [[NoExportForYou Kingdom Hearts Character Report volume 2:]] "I didn't think he would come this far. To begin with, he was supposed to be gone after Roxas defeats him towards the start. However, the entire staff, including myself, ended up pushing it so that he would return."
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: As far as gameplay goes.
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* TheWoobie: Roxas. [[BaseBreaker Unless you hate him.]]
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* TheWoobie: Roxas. [[BaseBreaker Unless you hate him.]]
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kairi once she [[TookALevelInBadass broke away]] from her DistressedDamsel role. That is, for everyone who isn't a [[FanDumb whiny]] [[DieForOurShip Sora/Riku shipper]] or typical FanGirl.
** Even amongst the more... [[FanDumb immature]] fans, Kairi got a LOT less hate after II. The sane ones never hated her in the first place- [[YaoiFangirl yes, even these.]].
** Even amongst the more... [[FanDumb immature]] fans, Kairi got a LOT less hate after II. The sane ones never hated her in the first place- [[YaoiFangirl yes, even these.]].
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kairi once she [[TookALevelInBadass broke away]] from her DistressedDamsel role. That is, for everyone who isn't a [[FanDumb whiny]] [[DieForOurShip Sora/Riku shipper]] or typical FanGirl.
**FanGirl. Even amongst the more... [[FanDumb immature]] fans, Kairi got a LOT less hate after II. The sane ones never hated her in the first place- [[YaoiFangirl yes, even these.]].
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** Others may consider this NarmCharm, but when Sora watches [[TheNightmareBeforeChristmas Jack and Sally]] dancing and then imagines himself dancing with Kairi with a pink backdrop and sparkles. Made narmier by the fact that Kairi looks a year yonger than Sora.
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** Others may consider this NarmCharm, but when Sora watches [[TheNightmareBeforeChristmas Jack and Sally]] dancing and then imagines himself dancing with Kairi with a pink backdrop and sparkles.sparkles, with both him and Kairi giggling. Made narmier by the fact that Kairi looks a year yonger than Sora.
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** The original idea for [[http://media.photobucket.com/image/battle%20of%20a%20thousand%20heartless/barkingtuna021/More/meep/kh2.png The Battle of a Thousand Heartless]]. [[HSQ Holy shit.]]
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** The original idea for [[http://media.photobucket.com/image/battle%20of%20a%20thousand%20heartless/barkingtuna021/More/meep/kh2.png The Battle of a Thousand Heartless]]. [[HSQ [[{{HSQ}} Holy shit.]]
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* HoYay: Axel's infamous obsession with Roxas.
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* HoYay: Sora and Riku get ''much'' more of this than they did in the past two games, and then there's Axel's infamous obsession with Roxas.Roxas....
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** The ending? That's pretty tame. What about in The World That Never Was when [[spoiler:Sora cries at Riku's feet]]? See RelationshipWritingFumble below.
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** The ending? That's pretty tame. What about in The World That Never Was when [[spoiler:Sora cries at Riku's feet]]? See RelationshipWritingFumble below.
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* HoYay: Watch the ending sequence. It only reinforces the jealous boyfriend vibe from the first game. Axel and Roxas are even more blatant.
** Riku admitting that his motivation was because he wanted to be like Sora doesn't reinforce any jealous boyfriend vibes, unless you're REALLY looking hard into something that isn't there.
** Riku admitting that his motivation was because he wanted to be like Sora doesn't reinforce any jealous boyfriend vibes, unless you're REALLY looking hard into something that isn't there.
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* HoYay: Watch the ending sequence. It only reinforces the jealous boyfriend vibe from the first game. Axel and Roxas are even more blatant.
** Riku admitting that his motivation was because he wanted to be like Sora doesn't reinforce any jealous boyfriend vibes, unless you're REALLY looking hard into something that isn't there.Axel's infamous obsession with Roxas.
** Riku admitting that his motivation was because he wanted to be like Sora doesn't reinforce any jealous boyfriend vibes, unless you're REALLY looking hard into something that isn't there.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Roxas was popular enough among certain fans that he got to star in his very own [[KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 video game]]. Still, others hate his guts because of the [[ScrappyLevel 3 hour long tutorial portion of the game]].
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Roxas was popular enough among certain fans that he got to star in his very own [[KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 video game]]. Still, others hate his guts because of the [[ScrappyLevel 3 hour long tutorial portion of the game]]. So in short, Roxas is [[BaseBreaker half the fanbase's Ensemble Darkhorse and the other half's Scrappy.]]
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** His [[TheDragon dragon]], Saix, acts almost just as bad, but at least his motives are sympathetic.
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** His [[TheDragon dragon]], Saix, acts almost just as bad, but at least his motives are more sympathetic.
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* CompleteMonster: Xemnas, no doubt. [[spoiler: Gaining a heart and being able to feel means NOTHING to him; he just wants power and will use anyone to gain it.]]
** His [[TheDragon dragon]], Saix, is just as bad.
** His [[TheDragon dragon]], Saix, is just as bad.
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* CompleteMonster: Xemnas, no doubt. [[spoiler: Gaining a heart and being able to feel means NOTHING to him; he just wants power and will use anyone to gain it. 358/2 Days goes further and shows that basically ALL the other Organization members were tools to him and that he wanted all of them dead by the time he got what he desired so he could rule unrivaled.]]
** His [[TheDragon dragon]], Saix,is acts almost just as bad.bad, but at least his motives are sympathetic.
** His [[TheDragon dragon]], Saix,
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** His [[TheDragon dragon]], Saix, is just as bad.
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*** Justified, as Sora has no idea what Kairi looks like after the one year timeskip and only remembers how she looked like last.
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** That cute little dance that Hades does before he [[spoiler: KICKS YOUR ASS]].
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* ContestedSequel: Due to the aforementioned KudzuPlot and (YourMileageMayVary) CharacterDerailment. And the [[DracoInLeatherPants Organization.]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Oh god,]] [[BaseBreaker the Organization.]] Everyone seems to agree that the gameplay was improved, however.
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* ContestedSequel: Due to the aforementioned KudzuPlot and (YourMileageMayVary) CharacterDerailment. And the [[DracoInLeatherPants Organization.]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Oh god,]] [[BaseBreaker the Organization.]] Everyone seems to agree that the gameplay was improved, however.however (though even that's no guurantee...)
