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** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with him, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlights that he's had a tendency to not let her do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoring Chloe over his other students to replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with him, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlights that he's had a tendency to not let her do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoring Chloe over his other students to replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
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** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with him, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlights that he's had a tendency to not let her do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoring Chloe over his other students to replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with him, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlights that he's had a tendency to not let her do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoring Chloe over his other students to replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to ''Cherry Bloodlines'', only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to ''Cherry Bloodlines'', only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation.DisownedAdaptation.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to ''Cherry Bloodlines'', only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation.
* WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: The BadFuture sequence at the start of Chapter 8 is infamous because of how hard to swallow it is; imagining a scenario where Chloe would enter a Car that would make her feel like nothing ''without'' the rest of the Red Lotus to comfort her, but then to have this team, who are supposed to be the heroes mind you, proceed to [[spoiler: slaughter the Apex in a bloody massacre in a fit of rage and grief over Chloe's death]], which was done in ''self-defense'', made it impossible to anybody to really like.
* WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: The BadFuture sequence at the start of Chapter 8 is infamous because of how hard to swallow it is; imagining a scenario where Chloe would enter a Car that would make her feel like nothing ''without'' the rest of the Red Lotus to comfort her, but then to have this team, who are supposed to be the heroes mind you, proceed to [[spoiler: slaughter the Apex in a bloody massacre in a fit of rage and grief over Chloe's death]], which was done in ''self-defense'', made it impossible to anybody to really like.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to ''Cherry Bloodlines'', only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation. \n* WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: The BadFuture sequence at the start of Chapter 8 is infamous because of how hard to swallow it is; imagining a scenario where Chloe would enter a Car that would make her feel like nothing ''without'' the rest of the Red Lotus to comfort her, but then to have this team, who are supposed to be the heroes mind you, proceed to [[spoiler: slaughter the Apex in a bloody massacre in a fit of rage and grief over Chloe's death]], which was done in ''self-defense'', made it impossible to anybody to really like.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her toxic biases bleeding through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a how much of a jerk she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, coupled with nervousness over apologizing to Ash for how she treated him, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her toxic biases bleeding through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a how much of a jerk she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, coupled with nervousness over apologizing to Ash for how she treated him, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, along with nervousness on apologizing to Ash for everything she did and accused him of, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping toxic biases bleeding through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person how much of a jerk she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, along coupled with nervousness on over apologizing to Ash for everything how she did and accused him of, treated him, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
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** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoriting Chloe over his other students to try replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoriting Chloe over his other students to try replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
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** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with Ash, him, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight highlights that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe her do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he wasfavoriting favoring Chloe over his other students to try replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her frustrations.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out herfrustrations.frustrations.
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoriting Chloe over his other students to try replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
* FranchiseOriginalSin: Chapter 9 is nothing but a giant call out by the Author, who's sick and tired of the dark themes featured in this story, a sentiment shared by most readers. However, the Blossomverse has ''always'' had excessive dark themes and scenes, with certain rewrites making the stories ''even darker'' than they already were, but at least the darkness played ''some'' role in the story rather than being there for the sake of it. ''Court of Cyclamen'' is arguably the first story in the verse where there's simply no excuse for the excessive darkness involved, especially considering that as an interquel, the darkness is completely irrelevant as we know most people are gonna be okay.
** Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to why she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she sorely needed to help vent out her
** Mr. Bradbury was never properly called out over all but stating that he was favoriting Chloe over his other students to try replace the child he could never have. This story features him getting a reality check from Professor Cerise, the very same man he once lambasted and mocked for being a bad parent, who makes it clear that no matter how sympathetic his backstory may be, he's ''not'' going to let the man get away with treating his daughter as a replacement.
* FranchiseOriginalSin: Chapter 9 is nothing but a giant call out by the Author, who's sick and tired of the dark themes featured in this story, a sentiment shared by most readers. However, the Blossomverse has ''always'' had excessive dark themes and scenes, with certain rewrites making the stories ''even darker'' than they already were, but at least the darkness played ''some'' role in the story rather than being there for the sake of it. ''Court of Cyclamen'' is arguably the first story in the verse where there's simply no excuse for the excessive darkness involved, especially considering that as an interquel, the darkness is completely irrelevant as we know most people are gonna be okay.
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* ShockingMoments: [[spoiler:Hunter J is ''alive'' in this fanfic and she's running the orphanage Bede is from alongside Ms. Turner from ''Blossoming Trail''.]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much in the right is Professor Cerise? On the one hand, he did have a right to ''not'' trust in counseling if he had been scammed before, and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was at least better than just leaving her behind. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved, and how the Professor was ignorant of Chloe's troubles in the first place, made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all.
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, along with nervousness on apologizing to Ash for everything she did and accused him of, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
** Is Boscha's attitude to Chloe a KickTheDog moment or is she trying to motivate her to stop feeling sorry for herself and become the strong Chloe that is needed to conquer the Apex? As shown in [[Fanfic/InfinityTrainBoilingPOint her original story]], Boscha only acts like she is -- outside of abuse -- because she thinks that's what it takes to make other people strong, regardless of their feelings about it is. Exotos reveals that Boscha saw Chloe as "Weak" for giving into pressure and making a spectacle of [[spoiler:having so many people having to reassure her that she's strong.]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to ''why'' she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she ''sorely'' needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** After the blunder in Chapter 7 (see below), the following chapter [[spoiler:decides to chuck the timeline and have Chloe and Bede forgive each other and start moving forward, along with it finally having Chloe getting rid of her biases (barring her two call outs in Act 3 of ''Blossoming Trail'' but that was explained as trying to get her fix on cathartic rants).]]
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Josh going into a KickTheDog moment by telling Chloe of [[spoiler:all of the passengers and denizens that were killed because of the Zealots worshipping her]] Mean. Josh then going into a CoolAndUnusualPunishment by [[spoiler:singing a small ditty on how she was never really a hero?]] Mean and hilarious.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler: Bede is DrivenToSuicide and goes off with it. But given that the author revealed in the prologue that he'll be appearing in the Darkest Day arc in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainVoyageOfWisteria'', fans will be relieved to know that this won't stick.]]
* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to Cherry Bloodlines, only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation.
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, along with nervousness on apologizing to Ash for everything she did and accused him of, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
** Is Boscha's attitude to Chloe a KickTheDog moment or is she trying to motivate her to stop feeling sorry for herself and become the strong Chloe that is needed to conquer the Apex? As shown in [[Fanfic/InfinityTrainBoilingPOint her original story]], Boscha only acts like she is -- outside of abuse -- because she thinks that's what it takes to make other people strong, regardless of their feelings about it is. Exotos reveals that Boscha saw Chloe as "Weak" for giving into pressure and making a spectacle of [[spoiler:having so many people having to reassure her that she's strong.]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to ''why'' she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she ''sorely'' needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** After the blunder in Chapter 7 (see below), the following chapter [[spoiler:decides to chuck the timeline and have Chloe and Bede forgive each other and start moving forward, along with it finally having Chloe getting rid of her biases (barring her two call outs in Act 3 of ''Blossoming Trail'' but that was explained as trying to get her fix on cathartic rants).]]
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Josh going into a KickTheDog moment by telling Chloe of [[spoiler:all of the passengers and denizens that were killed because of the Zealots worshipping her]] Mean. Josh then going into a CoolAndUnusualPunishment by [[spoiler:singing a small ditty on how she was never really a hero?]] Mean and hilarious.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler: Bede is DrivenToSuicide and goes off with it. But given that the author revealed in the prologue that he'll be appearing in the Darkest Day arc in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainVoyageOfWisteria'', fans will be relieved to know that this won't stick.]]
* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to Cherry Bloodlines, only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much in the right is Professor Cerise? On the one hand, he did have a right to ''not'' trust in counseling if he had been scammed before, and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was at least better than just leaving her behind. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved, and how the Professor was ignorant of Chloe's troubles in the first place, made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all.
** On top of all of this, howmuch of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, along with nervousness on apologizing to Ash for everything she did and accused him of, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
** Is Boscha's attitude to Chloe a KickTheDog moment or is she trying to motivate her to stop feeling sorry for herself and become the strong Chloe that is needed to conquer the Apex? As shown in [[Fanfic/InfinityTrainBoilingPOint her original story]], Boscha only acts like she is -- outside of abuse -- because she thinks that's what it takes to make other people strong, regardless of their feelings about it is. Exotos reveals that Boscha saw Chloe as "Weak" for giving into pressure and making a spectacle of [[spoiler:having so many people having to reassure her that she's strong.]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to ''why'' she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she ''sorely'' needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** After the blunder in Chapter 7 (see below), the following chapter [[spoiler:decides to chuck the timeline and have Chloe and Bede forgive each other and start moving forward, along with it finally having Chloe getting rid of her biases (barring her two call outs in Act 3 of ''Blossoming Trail'' but that was explained as trying to get her fix on cathartic rants).]]
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Josh going into a KickTheDog moment by telling Chloe of [[spoiler:all of the passengers and denizens that were killed because of the Zealots worshipping her]] Mean. Josh then going into a CoolAndUnusualPunishment by [[spoiler:singing a small ditty on how she was never really a hero?]] Mean and hilarious.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler: Bede is DrivenToSuicide and goes off with it. But given that the author revealed in the prologue that he'll be appearing in the Darkest Day arc in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainVoyageOfWisteria'', fans will be relieved to know that this won't stick.]]
* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to Cherry Bloodlines, ''Cherry Bloodlines'', only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation.
** On top of all of this, how
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to ''why'' she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she ''sorely'' needed to help vent out her frustrations.
** After the blunder in Chapter 7 (see below), the following chapter [[spoiler:decides to chuck the timeline and have Chloe and Bede forgive each other and start moving forward, along with it finally having Chloe getting rid of her biases (barring her two call outs in Act 3 of ''Blossoming Trail'' but that was explained as trying to get her fix on cathartic rants).]]
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Josh going into a KickTheDog moment by telling Chloe of [[spoiler:all of the passengers and denizens that were killed because of the Zealots worshipping her]] Mean. Josh then going into a CoolAndUnusualPunishment by [[spoiler:singing a small ditty on how she was never really a hero?]] Mean and hilarious.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler: Bede is DrivenToSuicide and goes off with it. But given that the author revealed in the prologue that he'll be appearing in the Darkest Day arc in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainVoyageOfWisteria'', fans will be relieved to know that this won't stick.]]
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** Is Boscha's attitude to Chloe a KickTheDog moment or is she trying to motivate her to stop feeling sorry for herself and become the strong Chloe that is needed to conquer the Apex? As shown in [[Fanfic/InfinityTrainBoilingPOint her original story]], Boscha only acts like she is -- outside of abuse -- because she thinks that's what it takes to make other people strong, regardless of their feelings about it is. Exotos reveals that Boscha saw Chloe as "Weak" for giving into pressure and making a spectacle of [[spoiler:having so many people having to reassure her that she's strong.]]
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* ShockingMoments: [[spoiler:Hunter J is ''alive'' in this fanfic and she's running the orphanage Bede is from alongside Ms. Turner from ''Blossoming Trail''.]]
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* ShockingMoments: [[spoiler:Hunter J is ''alive'' in this fanfic and she's running the orphanage Bede is from alongside Ms. Turner from ''Blossoming Trail''.]]]]
* WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: The BadFuture sequence at the start of Chapter 8 is infamous because of how hard to swallow it is; imagining a scenario where Chloe would enter a Car that would make her feel like nothing ''without'' the rest of the Red Lotus to comfort her, but then to have this team, who are supposed to be the heroes mind you, proceed to [[spoiler: slaughter the Apex in a bloody massacre in a fit of rage and grief over Chloe's death]], which was done in ''self-defense'', made it impossible to anybody to really like.
* WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: The BadFuture sequence at the start of Chapter 8 is infamous because of how hard to swallow it is; imagining a scenario where Chloe would enter a Car that would make her feel like nothing ''without'' the rest of the Red Lotus to comfort her, but then to have this team, who are supposed to be the heroes mind you, proceed to [[spoiler: slaughter the Apex in a bloody massacre in a fit of rage and grief over Chloe's death]], which was done in ''self-defense'', made it impossible to anybody to really like.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much in the right is Professor Cerise? On the one hand, he did have a right to ''not'' trust in counseling if he had been scammed before, and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was at least better than just leaving her behind. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all.
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt.
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much in the right is Professor Cerise? On the one hand, he did have a right to ''not'' trust in counseling if he had been scammed before, and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was at least better than just leaving her behind. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved loved, and how the Professor was ignorant of Chloe's troubles in the first place, made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all.
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, along with nervousness on apologizing to Ash for everything she did and accused him of, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
** Is Boscha's attitude to Chloe a KickTheDog moment or is she trying to motivate her to stop feeling sorry for herself and become the strong Chloe that is ready to conquer the Apex?
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt. The author even states that when Chloe was calling, she was already stressed out and exhausted as it was, along with nervousness on apologizing to Ash for everything she did and accused him of, so that might have also factored in to her anger issues.
** Is Boscha's attitude to Chloe a KickTheDog moment or is she trying to motivate her to stop feeling sorry for herself and become the strong Chloe that is ready to conquer the Apex?
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Moving forward, Chapter 8 is gonna be best remembered as the chapter that tried to tie-in to Cherry Bloodlines, only to butcher the scenario so thoroughly that crossoverpairinglover declared it a DisownedAdaptation.
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We're not going though this again: either write without making it clear you're BIASED or scram.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of a pathetic father is Professor Cerise? On one hand, he did have a right to not trust in counseling if he had been scammed and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was the right thing to do. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all. Not to mention that if he was ''aware'' that his daughter wasn't doing well and was bullied, why would you even ''ignore'' said advice?
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of a pathetic father in the right is Professor Cerise? On the one hand, he did have a right to not ''not'' trust in counseling if he had been scammed before, and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was the right thing to do.at least better than just leaving her behind. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all. Not to mention that if he was ''aware'' that his daughter wasn't doing well
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, andwas bullied, why would you even ''ignore'' said advice?how much of it is her poisonous bias seeping through? The story ''does'' take place before she realizes what a biased person she's been, and given we only have her word on what ''she'' said, it should be taken with a grain of salt.
** On top of all of this, how much of what Chloe claims here is the actual truth, and
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of a pathetic father is Professor Cerise? On one hand, he did have a right to not trust in counseling if he had been scammed and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was the right thing to do. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all. Not to mention that if he was ''aware'' that his daughter wasn't doing well and was bullied, why would you even ''ignore'' said advice?
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of a pathetic father is Professor Cerise? On one hand, he did have a right to not trust in counseling if he had been scammed and putting his daughter in the Institute to get out of the toxic environment was the right thing to do. On the ''other'' hand, given how Chloe was always ''stuck'' there and never given anything to do under the reason that doing so was punishment and she wasn't allowed to pursue what ''she'' loved made it honestly seem like the Professor just didn't want to deal with her problems at all.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler: Bede is DrivenToSuicide and goes off with it. But given that the author revealed in the prologue that he'll be appearing in the Darkest Day arc in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainVoyageOfWisteria'', fans will be relieved to know that this won't stick.]]
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler: Bede is DrivenToSuicide and goes off with it. But given that the author revealed in the prologue that he'll be appearing in the Darkest Day arc in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainVoyageOfWisteria'', fans will be relieved to know that this won't stick.]]
* ShockingMoments: [[spoiler:Hunter J is ''alive'' in this fanfic and she's running the orphanage Bede is from alongside Ms. Turner from ''Blossoming Trail''.]]
* ShockingMoments: [[spoiler:Hunter J is ''alive'' in this fanfic and she's running the orphanage Bede is from alongside Ms. Turner from ''Blossoming Trail''.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Chapter 6's Chloe scene has her talk to Ash and discusses on the fact as to ''why'' she wants to be friends with Ash, to address complaints that Chloe wanting to be friends with Ash came out of nowhere. It also explains the reason why Professor Cerise refused to take his daughter to therapy and highlight that he's had a tendency to not let Chloe do any activities that she ''sorely'' needed to help vent out her frustrations.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Josh going into a KickTheDog moment by telling Chloe of [[spoiler:all of the passengers and denizens that were killed because of the Zealots worshipping her]] Mean. Josh then going into a CoolAndUnusualPunishment by [[spoiler:singing a small ditty on how she was never really a hero?]] Mean and hilarious.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler: Bede is DrivenToSuicide and goes off with it. But given that the author revealed in the prologue that he'll be appearing in the Darkest Day arc in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainVoyageOfWisteria'', fans will be relieved to know that this won't stick.]]
