History YMMV / InThisWorldAndTheNext

* ClicheStorm: This fanfic boasts [[CardCarryingVillain generically evil]], [[{{Chickification}} submissive damselHermione]], [[PeggySue "fix the books" time travel]], [[FantasticRacism pureblood supremacy]] [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain as the Ultimate Evil™]] and the Ancient and Noble House of Potter, complete with marriage law, all in the first two chapters. As [[http://szaleniec1000.livejournal.com/62000.html one review]] put it:

* BrokenBase: The overall quality of the fic. Detractors generally loathe the fic with a passion, and tend to bring up many of the issues mentioned here, particularly blatant use of RonTheDeathEater and {{Chickification}} of Hermione. On the other hand, the fic is ''very'' popular, with more than ''10,000'' favorites as of this writing, and while many reviews are critical, many others gush over the fic.
* ClicheStorm: This fanfic boasts [[CardCarryingVillain generically!evil!]]{{Ron|TheDeathEater}}, [[{{Chickification}} submissive!damsel!Hermione]], [[PeggySue “fix the books” time travel]], [[FantasticRacism pureblood supremacy]] [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain as the Ultimate Evil™]] and the Ancient and Noble House of Potter, complete with marriage law, all in the first two chapters. As [[http://szaleniec1000.livejournal.com/62000.html one review]] put it:

* CrackPairing: [[spoiler:Neville somehow gets paired with [[FatBastard Millicent]] [[TookALevelInKindness Bulstrode]]]]. Also qualifies as ShipsThatPassInTheNight.
* DesignatedHero: Harry, arguably. In the new timeline, he destroys the Weasleys’ lives for things they haven’t actually done yet (including [[spoiler: feeding Percy to Fluffy]] and [[spoiler: rendering Ron sterile and unable to perform magic]], [[GuiltByAssociationGag as well as]] [[spoiler:rendering the entire family homeless by seizing the Burrow even though Arthur, Bill, and Charlie never do anything wrong even within the story]]) and sees nothing wrong with doing so. Hermione, at least, does show a little angst and remorse.
* DieForOurShip: The reason this was written was because robst couldn’t stand Ron getting with Hermione and Harry with Ginny.

* MisaimedFandom: The message of the books that one should ''not'' judge others by what they were born as apparently flew over the author’s head considering how much Harry boasts about being from the “Ancient and Noble House of Potter”.

* RonTheDeathEater:
** Ron himself, as might be expected goes from a flawed but ultimately heroic boy to an almost cartoonishly evil villain. Not only is he a rapist and an abuser, but he's also portrayed as such a "shit wizard" that when he hexes Dan and Emma, Dan's breaks in time for him to inform Harry about what happened.
** The other Weasleys and Dumbledore get this treatment to varying degrees, although Dumbledore is portrayed as merely paranoid, not completely evil.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Once Harry and Hermione are back in time, they mercilessly bully the people who would have hurt them in the original future despite said harm having not having been done yet and despite the very nature of their actions preventing the harm from ever coming to pass, and act like [[SmugSnake smug little twits]] about it all. The Weasleys (whom this fic was written for the sole purpose of bashing), on the other hand, are UnintentionallySympathetic.

* DieForOurShip: The reason this was written was because robst couldn’t stand Ron getting with Hermione and Harry with Ginny.ClicheStorm many]] other clichés.

* AntiClimax: [[spoiler: The last few chapters build up to a deluded Dumbledore preparing to attack and kill Harry. Then, Dumbledore ends up battling a mere vision of Harry in the Room of Requirement, never gets near the real one, and is captured effortlessly afterwards]]. It’s not a surprise given how Harry and Hermione seem to breeze through all obstacles in the new timeline, which makes the way they were so comprehensively defeated in the old timeline look even more out of place.

* DieForOurShip: The reason this was written was because robst couldn’t stand Ron getting with Hermione and Harry with Ginny.
* FandomSpecificPlot: Harry and Hermione go back in time to [[PeggySue “fix”]] the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' story, along with many, [[ClicheStorm many]] other clichés.

* CriticalResearchFailure: No, you can't change somebody’s gender identity with a GroinAttack.
** Although, to be fair, this could be a case of ScienceMarchesOn, that is, from 1991, when the story is set. [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer There was an actual case where doctors performed a sex change on a boy whose genitals had been damaged]]; until the truth came out in the mid-1990s, the medical literature was full of accounts about how well this worked and what it “proved” about the flexibility of gender. It should be noted that we only have the healer’s word (which, again, reflected then-currently accepted science) as to [[spoiler:Ron]]’s prognosis and how well he will adjust; we never actually ''see'' how well he actually adjusts.

* WhatAnIdiot: Several examples, but probably the worst is Harry putting hundreds of people’s lives at risk by boarding a passenger jet in the full knowledge that he’s at risk of uncontrolled magic. Don’t wizards have their own methods of long-distance travel, anyway?

* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Once Harry and Hermione meet again and realize that both of them have their memories from the previous timeline, they begin discussing what to do. Harry's understandably worried about how Dan will take Harry being engaged to his daughter at the age of ''eleven'', noting that Dan "will probably half kill (Harry) before passing him over to (Hermione's) mum to finish the job." Hermione points out that she'll be twelve in a couple weeks, and Harry sarcastically suggests telling her parents after her birthday.

* RonTheDeathEater: Apparently, he’s worse than the ''actual'' Death Eaters. Despite being a [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain “shit wizard”]]. So are the other Weasleys (except Ginny, strangely enough) and Dumbledore (though he at least is portrayed as merely paranoid, not completely evil).

* AntiClimax: [[spoiler: The last few chapters build up to a deluded Dumbledore preparing to attack and kill Harry. Then Dumbledore ends up battling a vision of Harry in the Room of Requirement, never gets near the real one, and is captured effortlessly afterwards.]] It's not a surprise given how they seem to breeze through all obstacles in the new timeline, which makes the way they were so comprehensively defeated in the old timeline look even more out of place.
* ClicheStorm: This fanfic boasts [[CardCarryingVillain generically!evil!]]{{Ron|TheDeathEater}}, [[{{Chickification}} submissive!damsel!Hermione]], [[PeggySue "fix the books" time travel]], [[FantasticRacism pureblood supremacy]] [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain as the Ultimate Evil™]] and the Ancient and Noble House of Potter complete with marriage law. All in the first two chapters. As [[http://szaleniec1000.livejournal.com/62000.html one review]] put it:
-->I'm guessing that later in the story, Harry will be framed and sent to Azkaban, allowing his hitherto unknown twin who's the actual Boy Who Lived to take his place, get adopted by Snape and become Head Boy, upon which he hooks up with Hermione (who turns out to be really a pureblood) at the annual Yule Ball and they have lots of rampant sex in the Head Boy and Girl's private quarters, and meanwhile Draco discovers that he's part-Veela and hooks up with an American exchange student who's a newly discovered species of super-witch with an anachronistic taste in clothes and music, and they go off and fight the resurrected Salazar Slytherin together.[[note]]None of this actually does happen, but it wouldn't have been a surprise.[[/note]]
* CrackPairing: Neville somehow gets paired with [[FatBastard Millicent]] [[TookALevelInKindness Bulstrode]]. Also qualifies as ShipsThatPassInTheNight.
* CriticalResearchFailure: No, you can't change someone's gender identity with a GroinAttack.
** Although, to be fair, this could be a case of ScienceMarchesOn, that is, from 1991, when the story is set. [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer There was an actual case where doctors performed a sex change on a boy whose genitals had been damaged]]; until the truth came out in the mid '90s, the medical literature was full of accounts about how well this worked and what it "proved" about the flexibility of gender. It should be noted that we only have the healer's word (which, again, reflected then-currently accepted science) as to Ron's prognosis and how well he will adjust; we never actually ''see'' how well he actually adjusts.
* DesignatedHero: Harry, arguably. In the new timeline, he destroys the Weasleys' lives for things they haven't actually done yet (including [[spoiler: feeding Percy to Fluffy]] and [[spoiler: rendering Ron sterile and unable to perform magic]]) and sees nothing wrong with doing so. Hermione, at least, does show a little angst and remorse.
* DieForOurShip: The reason this was written.

* HilariousInHindsight: Ron losing his genitalia is for the best. Or, in other words, [[Fanfic/{{Deserving}} they hate that he has a cock]].
** The rationale for Kingsley not becoming Minister for Magic was that the Minister had to be a pure-blood. Then Pottermore revealed that [[spoiler:the Shacklebolts were indeed an old pure-blood family and Umbridge's mother was a Muggle.]]
** Good luck re-reading the bit about the "secret ritual" for transferring the Horcrux into a pig and not thinking of piggate.
* InformedWrongness: Snape is if anything ''more'' sensible and reasonable than he is in canon, which doesn't stop the story going on about how terrible he is.
** As far as Ron and Percy in the new timeline are concerned, Harry and Hermione are a pair of stuck-up bullies who've got it in for them and their family for no apparent reason, yet we're supposed to think they're terrible people for resenting this.
* MisaimedFandom: The message of the books that you should ''not'' judge the person by who they were born apparently flew over authour's head considering how much Harry boasts about being from "Ancient and Noble House of Potter"
* NeverLiveItDown: Hermione, to many readers - for all the later chapters insist that she's as badass as she is in canon and then some, [[ShowDontTell though not showing us quite so much]], she's always going to be the person who got overpowered twice by a shit wizard. That she's subject to {{Chickification}} throughout doesn't help.
* RonTheDeathEater: Apparently, he's worse than the ''actual'' Death Eaters. Despite being a [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain "shit wizard"]]. So are the other Weasleys (except Ginny, strangely enough) and Dumbledore (though he at least is portrayed as merely paranoid, not completely evil).

* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Weasleys of the new timeline have so many bad things happen in revenge for things that they [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble would have done in the (original) future]] that you can't help feeling sorry for them. It doesn't help that Mrs. Weasley is among the fic's [[StrawmanHasAPoint strawmen with valid points]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Once Harry and Hermione are back in time, they mercilessly bully the people who would have hurt them in the original future despite said harm having not having been done yet, and act like [[SmugSnake smug little twits]] about it all. The Weasleys (who this fic is about bashing), on the other hand, are UnintentionallySympathetic.
* WhatAnIdiot: Several examples, but probably the worst is Harry putting hundreds of people's lives at risk by boarding a passenger jet in the full knowledge that he's at risk of uncontrolled magic. Don't wizards have their own methods of long-distance travel, anyway?

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The reason the original timeline was so bad was apparently because Harry and Hermione went off to Australia and left Britain to rot, and once they're back in time, they mercilessly bully the people who would have hurt them in the original future despite said harm having not having been done yet, and act like [[SmugSnake smug little twits]] about it all. The Weasleys (who this fic is about bashing), on the other hand, are UnintentionallySympathetic.

* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Weasleys of the new timeline have so many bad things happen in revenge for things that they [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble would have done in the (original) future]] that you can't help feeling sorry for them. It doesn't help that Mrs. Weasley is among the fic's [[StrawmanHasAPoint strawmen with valid points]].

* DisproportionateRetribution: While Ron's sudden seizing of a VillainBall and raping Hermione is, indeed, despicable, what Harry and Hermione do to Ron and the entire Weasley family in the new timeline is by far more amoral. First, Harry gets Molly arrested at King's Cross for trying to help him find Platform 9 3/4, proceeds to attack her and her family when she walks into the Great Hall (because he assumed she was going to attack him despite being unarmed), and then, to ice the cake, proceeds to ''force the entire Weasley family into destitution'' by suing them for damages. This despite the fact that, in this fanfic's canon, Harry is the scion of House Potter (being an "Ancient, Noble House of Potter fic, classism is inevitable) and being worth more than the entire family hundreds of times over in canon. As a result of Harry's actions, Arthur and Bill lose their jobs (because, for some reason, the goblins of Gringotts Bank now care about wizarding politics despite being disinterested and aloof in canon) and the whole family (sans Charlie) is homeless due to Harry seizing the house so he can tear it down and put up a generic [=McMansion=].

* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Literature/HarryPotter'' and ''Fanfic/TheLastWar [[Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturesPast of Futures Past]]''.

** Although, to be fair, this could be a case of ScienceMarchesOn, that is, from 1991, when the story is set. [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer There was an actual case where doctors performed a sex change on a boy whose genitals had been damaged]]; until the truth came out in the mid '90s, the medical literature was full of accounts about how well this worked and what it "proved" about the flexibility of gender.

* NeverLiveItDown: Hermione, to many readers - for all the later chapters insist that she's as {{badass}} as she is in canon and then some, [[ShowDontTell though not showing us quite so much]], she's always going to be the person who got overpowered twice by a shit wizard. That she's subject to {{Chickification}} throughout doesn't help.

* {{Anticlimax}}: [[spoiler: The last few chapters build up to a deluded Dumbledore preparing to attack and kill Harry. Then Dumbledore ends up battling a vision of Harry in the Room of Requirement, never gets near the real one, and is captured effortlessly afterwards.]] It's not a surprise given how they seem to breeze through all obstacles in the new timeline, which makes the way they were so comprehensively defeated in the old timeline look even more out of place.
* ClicheStorm: This fanfic boasts [[CardCarryingVillain generically!evil!]][[RonTheDeathEater Ron]], [[{{Chickification}} submissive!damsel!Hermione]], [[PeggySue "fix the books" time travel]], [[FantasticRacism pureblood supremacy]] [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain as the Ultimate Evil™]] and the Ancient and Noble House of Potter complete with marriage law. All in the first two chapters. As [[http://szaleniec1000.livejournal.com/62000.html one review]] put it:

* MarySue and GaryStu: Harry and Hermione in the new timeline.
** PuritySue: Hermione.
** [[GodModeSue God Mode Stu]][=/=][[JerkSue Jerkass Stu]]: Harry.

* WhatAnIdiot: Several examples, but probably the worst is Harry putting hundreds of people's lives at risk by boarding a passenger jet in the full knowledge that he's at risk of uncontrolled magic. Don't wizards have their own methods of long-distance travel, anyway?

** The rationale for Kingsley not becoming Minister for Magic was that the Minister had to be a pure-blood. Then Pottermore revealed that [[spoiler:the Shacklebolts were indeed an old pure-blood family.]]

* UnfortunateImplications: Despite being a "shit wizard", Ron is able to overpower Hermione, who's powerful enough to destroy the Dementor as it feeds on her, for what seems to be no other reason than that he's a boy and she's a girl. Also, becoming a girl (which a sufficiently powerful GroinAttack can do, an UnfortunateImplication in its own right) means that he won't become a rapist because apparently [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale female rapists]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale don't exist]].
** There's also the fact that for all the talk about her being a smart and strong witch, [[{{Chickification}} Hermione defers to Harry on most things]], and whenever she starts questioning the morality of what they're doing, Harry is quickly able to talk her round to his way of thinking.
** Honestly, Hermione's entire character arc in the first chapter is made of nothing ''but'' UnfortunateImplications. Let's start with the fact that Harry is a ridiculously overpowered GaryStu, whereas she needs rescuing from a "shit wizard" who can't even hex a pair of {{Muggles}} successfully. Then consider that everything that happens to her serves only as a motivation for Harry's actions. That she shouts defiance at the Dementor in her final moments is very much too little too late.
** Treatment of Hermione aside, the story is rift with the theme of women being overly emotional and needing to be restrained by their husbands. One scene has Hermione and Mrs. nearly attacking Mrs. Weasley, only to be restrained by Harry and Mr. Granger respectively, while Mrs. Weasley has to be forcibly restrained with magic, making her quietly sit in a chair, by Mr. Weasley. That Mr. Weasley resorts to using magic to overpower and silence his wife is shown as proof that he's "good" in the new timeline, and his canon behavior is described as him being "led by the nose", implicitly making him worthy of being mocked. The one reference to the women's behavior being good is Mr. Granger randomly thinking how much he likes Mrs. Granger's fiery attitude, in other words expressing it favorably by making it sexually enjoyable for a man. Um...
** The classism. The Weasleys are poor and generally miserable, and only are shown mercy when they kiss up to Harry and Hermione, who are prominently referred to as "Lord and Lady Potter". This leads to Harry talking about how "merciful" he is to them, particularly in buying the Burrow and tearing it all down to replace it with a "superior" mansion.
** Kingsley doesn't become the Minister for Magic because you apparently have to be British. This may have been a clumsy attempt to add racism to the ITWATN-verse's litany of sins, as though they needed to be any worse, but comes across as suggesting that black people can't be British. Oops.