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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: In-universe, '''Jacob Wrestling'''. And how! Several plot points revolve around this.
** Subverted with the novel Mortmain starts to write during the course of this one. His children think he's either doing this trope or else having another CreatorBreakdown because he seems to be endlessly fiddling with bits of childish rubbish, but actually he's trying to write a novel entirely from the perspective of a very young child. (A ShoutOut to Creator/JamesJoyce's ''Literature/APortraitOfTheArtistAsAYoungMan''.)
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* AbusiveParent: Mortmain is portrayed as a neglectful father with severe anger issues. He threatens his wife with a knife, constantly neglects his children, and strikes Cassandra later on in the book. Justified in-universe, [[TrueArtIsAngsty because apparently he needed to have a nasty temper in order to write]], so the family tolerates his behavior for the most part, and actively encourages it later in the book.



* NippleAndDimed: For the film version. A single brief of Topaz's bare breasts while she's "communing with nature" was enough to give the otherwise pretty-darn-chaste movie an R-rating in the States. Notable in that it's ''specifically'' this scene that earned the R, while a shot of a shirtless Neil showing just as much bare chest went unremarked. Likewise a shot of Cassandra sunbathing while fully nude (from a distance, with a combination of a raised knee and a delicately draped arm concealing any naughty bits) was not considered R-worthy.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Modern readers might be confused when Cassandra mentions "mannequins" walking around, but at the time, many high-class shops employed live models to stroll silently about while wearing the latest fashions.[[note]]Ordinary, static mannequins ''did'' exist; the living ones were only to class the place up.[[/note]]
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** As a lady of society, one of the things Rose must learn is [[SmokingIsCool how to smoke.]] Social smoking was taken much more lightly than it is today.

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** As a lady of society, one of the things Rose must learn is [[SmokingIsCool [[SmokingIsGlamorous how to smoke.]] Social smoking was taken much more lightly than it is today.
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** As a lady of society, one of the things Rose must learn is [[SmokingIsCool how to smoke.]] Social smoking was taken much more lightly than it is today.
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* NippleAndDimed: For the film version. A single brief of Topaz's bare breasts while she's "communing with nature" was enough to give the otherwise pretty-darn-chaste movie an R-rating in the States. Notable in that it's ''specifically'' this scene that earned the R, while a shot of a shirtless Neil showing just as much bare chest went unremarked. Likewise a shot of Cassandra sunbathing while fully nude (from a distance, with a combination of a raised knee and a delicately draped arm concealing any naughty bits) was not considered R-worthy.
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** Perhaps less a Values Dissonance than a DoNotTryThisAtHome, Cassandra shares her chocolate bar with her dog. While a very, ''very'' little chocolate would not kill a dog as large as Heloise, giving one's dog ''any'' chocolate is discouraged now, partially because of the immediate health risks and partially because acclimating a dog to an occasional taste of chocolate might cause him to sniff out one's stash and overindulge to the point of serious harm or death.

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** Perhaps less a Values Dissonance than a DoNotTryThisAtHome, Cassandra shares her chocolate bar with her dog. While a very, ''very'' little chocolate would not kill a dog as large as Heloise, giving one's dog ''any'' chocolate is discouraged now, partially because of the immediate health risks and partially because acclimating a dog to an occasional taste of chocolate might cause him to sniff out one's stash and overindulge to the point of serious harm or death. It's a notable lapse considering that author Dodie Smith was a lifelong dog lover with a great deal of practical knowledge about dog behavior and care, but at the time the book was written, the health impact of chocolate on dogs was not established and Smith would have had no reason to doubt the common opinion that it was okay to give your dog a chocolatey treat.
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** Perhaps less a Values Dissonance than a DoNotTryThisAtHome, Cassandra shares her chocolate bar with her dog. While a very, ''very'' little chocolate would not kill a dog as large as Heloise, giving one's dog ''any'' chocolate is discouraged now, partially because of the immediate health risks and partially because acclimating a dog to an occasional taste of chocolate might cause him to sniff out one's stash and overindulge to the point of serious harm or death.

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* AbusiveParent: Mortmain is portrayed as a neglectful father with severe anger issues. He threatens his wife with a knife, constantly neglecting his children and even striking Cassandra later on in the book, the father comes off as this.
** I can't tell if it was a ValuesDissonance or just TrueArtIsAngsty that his behavior was tolerated for the most part, even encouraged because apparently he needed to have a nasty temper in order to write.

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* AbusiveParent: Mortmain is portrayed as a neglectful father with severe anger issues. He threatens his wife with a knife, constantly neglecting neglects his children children, and even striking strikes Cassandra later on in the book, the father comes off as this.
** I can't tell if it was a ValuesDissonance or just TrueArtIsAngsty that his behavior was tolerated for the most part, even encouraged
book. Justified in-universe, [[TrueArtIsAngsty because apparently he needed to have a nasty temper in order to write.write]], so the family tolerates his behavior for the most part, and actively encourages it later in the book.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: '''Jacob Wrestling'''. And how! Several plot points revolve around this.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: In-universe, '''Jacob Wrestling'''. And how! Several plot points revolve around this.this.
** Subverted with the novel Mortmain starts to write during the course of this one. His children think he's either doing this trope or else having another CreatorBreakdown because he seems to be endlessly fiddling with bits of childish rubbish, but actually he's trying to write a novel entirely from the perspective of a very young child. (A ShoutOut to Creator/JamesJoyce's ''Literature/APortraitOfTheArtistAsAYoungMan''.)
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Cassandra and Thomas lock their father up and refuse to let him out until he has started a new book.]] This is treated as pure slapstick. Several decades later, Creator/StephenKing would use the same concept [[Literature/{{Misery}} but played for horror instead]].
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* ValuesDissonance: While Mortmain's behaviour towards his children is mainly harmless, if pretty cold and distant, some of his actions (such as getting mad at Cassandra and pushing her into a wall) definitely don't go over as well today as they would have in the 1930s.

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* ValuesDissonance: While Mortmain's behaviour towards his children is mainly harmless, if pretty cold and distant, some of his actions (such as getting mad at Cassandra and pushing her into a wall) definitely don't go over as well today as they would have in the 1930s.1940s.
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* ValuesDissonance: While Mortmain's behaviour towards his children is mainly harmless, if pretty cold and distant, some of his actions (such as getting mad at Cassandra and pushing her into a wall) definitely don't go over as well today as they would have in the 1930s.
** On a lighter note, the Mortmain girls treat Simon as an oddity because he is a young man with a beard, and he is described as [[SheCleansUpNicely becoming markedly more handsome when he shaves it off]]. This can come off as silly in an era where beards have become a lot more fashionable even among young men.

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* AbusiveParent: Mortmain is potrayed as a neglectful father with severe anger issues. He threatens his wife with a knife, constantly neglecting his children and even striking Cassandra later on in the book, the father comes off as this.

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* AbusiveParent: Mortmain is potrayed portrayed as a neglectful father with severe anger issues. He threatens his wife with a knife, constantly neglecting his children and even striking Cassandra later on in the book, the father comes off as this.



* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: '''Jacob Wrestling'''. And how! Several plot points revolve around this.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Cassandra tries to convince herself that a sunrise symbolises her future with Simon.



** Cassandra may also qualify
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: '''Jacob Wrestling'''. And how! Several plot points revolve around this.

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** Cassandra may also qualify
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: '''Jacob Wrestling'''. And how! Several plot points revolve around this.
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* AbusiveParent: With threatening his wife with a knife, constantly neglecting his children and even striking Cassandra later on in the book, the father comes off as this.

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* AbusiveParent: With threatening Mortmain is potrayed as a neglectful father with severe anger issues. He threatens his wife with a knife, constantly neglecting his children and even striking Cassandra later on in the book, the father comes off as this.this.
** I can't tell if it was a ValuesDissonance or just TrueArtIsAngsty that his behavior was tolerated for the most part, even encouraged because apparently he needed to have a nasty temper in order to write.

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