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* HarsherInHindsight: The Bob Mould song "Friend, You've Got to Fall", after Grant Hart's death.
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* MainstreamObscurity: They're well known enough that Grant Hart's death was covered in mainstream sources like [[Website/TheOnion The A.V. Club]] and the ''New York Times'', but comparatively few people have heard their music.


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* NoHitWonder: Of the "more influential than commercially successful" variety. They had middling chart success outside the U.K., and nothing that qualifies as a hit outside that country, but they wound up being one of the most influential hardcore/alternative bands of their era - some sources, such as Allmusic, consider them co-{{Trope Maker}}s of the entire genre of AlternativeRock (alongside Music/{{REM}}).
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: "Makes No Sense at All" made it to #2 on the UK Indie chart and ''Flip Your Wig'' actually topped the UK Indie album charts. They never had a remotely comparable chart performance in any other country.
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* FridgeBrilliance:
** "The Tooth Fairy and the Princess" is intended to represent the fact that [[spoiler:the earlier parts of the album were a nightmare in the mind of its main character]], and the song itself is dreamlike and, indeed, nightmarish (for some listeners, at least). The song features Mould repeatedly whispering "wake up", and the fading in and out of the guitars may feel particularly familiar for anyone who's ever had hypnagogic or hypnopompic hallucinations (hypnagogia: the state immediately before falling asleep; hypnopompia: the state immediately after waking from a dream).
** As mentioned on the main page, "Too Far Down" and "Hardly Getting Over It" are both about depression, but they cover different aspects of the illness. Chronologically, they immediately follow each other on ''Candy Apple Grey'', but are separated by an album side; "Too Far Down" represents hopelessness, an earlier symptom of depression, while "Hardly Getting Over It" represents numbness, an aspect that generally only manifests itself after a lengthy episode. The album side division could thus be considered to stand in for the gap that separates the initial despair and the later numbness the illness causes many of its sufferers.

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* GrowingTheBeard: It is generally agreed that ''Zen Arcade'' is where they came into their own musically and conceptually. Some fans may cite ''Metal Circus'' as the point where this happened instead, though it's almost always considered a lesser work than ''Zen Arcade''.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: Of a sort. ''Zen Arcade'' isn't actually their first full-length album, but it's their first studio album to break twenty minutes and it's their first release of any sort to break past the thirty-minute mark (unless you count ''Everything Falls Apart and More'', a compilation of early material released in 1993). It remains probably their best-loved album and is considered their most representative and defining release.
* GrowingTheBeard: It is generally agreed that ''Zen Arcade'' is where they came into their own musically and conceptually. Some fans may cite ''Metal Circus'' as the point where this happened instead, though it's almost always considered a lesser work than ''Zen Arcade''. (These could also be considered examples of EvenBetterSequel, since the band's early material is still pretty well regarded.)
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* VindicatedByHistory: They never managed to break out of the underground while they were still together, though after their demise they would come to be widely regarded as one of the most influential rock bands of their era.

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* VindicatedByHistory: They never managed to break out of the underground while they were still together, though after their demise they would come to be widely regarded as one of the most influential rock bands of their era. Grant Hart's death received coverage in mainstream sources across the Internet and in print media up to and including the ''New York Times''.
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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill”, “Powerline”, “It’s Not Funny Anymore”, “Ice Cold Ice”… They’re not all limited to guitar, either; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” (drums) for any other song, while “Standing by the Sea” has one on bass.

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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill”, “Powerline”, “It’s Not Funny Anymore”, “Divide and Conquer”, “Ice Cold Ice”… They’re not all limited to guitar, either; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” (drums) for any other song, while “Standing by the Sea” has one on bass.
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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill”, “Powerline”, “Ice Cold Ice”… They’re not all limited to guitar, either; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” (drums) for any other song, while “Standing by the Sea” has one on bass.

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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill”, “Powerline”, “It’s Not Funny Anymore”, “Ice Cold Ice”… They’re not all limited to guitar, either; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” (drums) for any other song, while “Standing by the Sea” has one on bass.
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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill,” “Ice Cold Ice”… For that matter, they probably have some on drums, too; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” for any other song.

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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill,” Hill”, “Powerline”, “Ice Cold Ice”… For that matter, they probably have some on drums, too; They’re not all limited to guitar, either; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” (drums) for any other song.song, while “Standing by the Sea” has one on bass.
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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill,” “Ice Cold Ice”… For that matter, they probably have some on drums; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” for any other song.

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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill,” “Ice Cold Ice”… For that matter, they probably have some on drums; drums, too; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” for any other song.
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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Ice Cold Ice”…

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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill,” “Ice Cold Ice”…Ice”… For that matter, they probably have some on drums; no fan of hardcore is likely to mistake the opening of “Something I Learned Today” for any other song.
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* EpicRiff: Also lots of them. “Newest Industry”, “Chartered Trips”, “Somewhere”, “Plans I Make”, “Reoccurring Dreams”, “Pink Turns to Blue” (which even has an EpicRiff in its ''guitar solo'' that sounds more than a bit like it may have influenced Music/{{Metallica}}’s “Enter Sandman”), “Ice Cold Ice”…
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* SweetDreamsFuel: "Don't Know Yet", the instrumental closer to ''Flip Your Wig''.

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* NightmareFuel: "The Tooth Fairy and the Princess"

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"The Tooth Fairy and the Princess"Princess", which may also fall under CreepyAwesome and NothingIsScarier. It somehow manages to be beautiful at the same time.
** Some of the band's more dissonant material may also qualify - "The Wit and the Wisdom" and some of the heavier songs on ''Zen Arcade'', maybe.
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** We also shouldn't forget ''Flip Your Wig'', ''Candy Apple Grey'', and ''Warehouse: Songs and Stories''; while some fans objected to their more polished production, they're still great albums. Even their early releases before they Grew the Beard still have a lot of good songs on them.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Pretty much the entirety of ''Zen Arcade'' and ''New Day Rising'', and a good number of individual songs as well.


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* NightmareFuel: "The Tooth Fairy and the Princess"
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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''. There are arguments for ''New Day Rising'' and ''Warehouse'' as well, though the latter is a less popular choice.
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* TearJerker: Songs such as "Pink Turns to Blue", "Keep Hanging On", "Don't Know Yet", "Too Far Down", "Hardly Getting Over It", and "No Promise Have I Made" certainly qualify for this trope. In particular, if they made a SurprisinglyGentleSong, chances are it will also be a TearJerker.

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* TearJerker: Songs such as "Pink Turns to Blue", "Keep Hanging On", "Don't Know Yet", "Too Far Down", "Hardly Getting Over It", and "No Promise Have I Made" certainly qualify for this trope. In particular, if they made a SurprisinglyGentleSong, chances are it will also be a TearJerker.TearJerker.
* VindicatedByHistory: They never managed to break out of the underground while they were still together, though after their demise they would come to be widely regarded as one of the most influential rock bands of their era.
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* ChorusOnlySong: "New Day Rising" and "If I Told You". [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], since they are also {{Single Stanza Song}}s.

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%%* EarWorm: Many of their songs.
* GrowingTheBeard: It is generally agreed that ''Zen Arcade'' is where they came into their own musically and conceptually.
* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''. There are arguments for ''New Day Rising'' and ''Warehouse'' as well, though the latter is a less popular choice.

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%%* * EarWorm: Many Lots of their songs.
them. Excellent examples include "Every Everything", "Turn On the News", "Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely", "New Day Rising", "Something I Learned Today", "Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill", and "Makes No Sense at All".
* GrowingTheBeard: It is generally agreed that ''Zen Arcade'' is where they came into their own musically and conceptually.
conceptually. Some fans may cite ''Metal Circus'' as the point where this happened instead, though it's almost always considered a lesser work than ''Zen Arcade''.
* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''. There are arguments for ''New Day Rising'' and ''Warehouse'' as well, though the latter is a less popular choice.choice.
* TearJerker: Songs such as "Pink Turns to Blue", "Keep Hanging On", "Don't Know Yet", "Too Far Down", "Hardly Getting Over It", and "No Promise Have I Made" certainly qualify for this trope. In particular, if they made a SurprisinglyGentleSong, chances are it will also be a TearJerker.
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* GrowingTheBeard: It is generally agreed that ''Zen Arcade'' where they came into their own musically and conceptually.

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* GrowingTheBeard: It is generally agreed that ''Zen Arcade'' where they came into their own musically and conceptually.
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* EarWorm: Many of their songs.
* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade'' and ''New Day Rising''. There are arguments for ''Warehouse'' as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.

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* %%* EarWorm: Many of their songs.
* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade'' and ''New Day Rising''. Arcade''. There are arguments for ''New Day Rising'' and ''Warehouse'' as well, though it's the latter is a (much) less popular choice.

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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade'' and ''New Day Rising''.
** There are arguments for ''Warehouse'' as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.

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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade'' and ''New Day Rising''.
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Rising''. There are arguments for ''Warehouse'' as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.
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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''

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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''Arcade'' and ''New Day Rising''.
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** There are arguments for Warehouse as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.

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** There are arguments for Warehouse ''Warehouse'' as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.
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** I've heard arguments for Warehouse as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.

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** I've heard There are arguments for Warehouse as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.
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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''

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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''Arcade''
** I've heard arguments for Warehouse as well, though it's a (much) less popular choice.
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* EarWorm: Many of their songs.
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* MagnumOpus: ''Zen Arcade''

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