History YMMV / Hulk

18th Apr '18 5:17:00 PM TheMountainKing
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** The "puny human" scene where the Hulk bursts out of Bruce's mirror made for a great teaser trailer, and makes sense as broad symbolism of the conflict between Bruce's fears and psychoses. It was included in the movie... in the middle of a fall off a fighter plane. Bruce was dreaming it, but it makes no sense in the context of the fighter jet attack. It does actually if one thinks of it as Hulk expressing anger and hate at the human in him (Banner) who almost cost him his life by saving human lives. Remember, that scene is a dream sequence. The hulk has been knocked unconscious as a result of the fighter-jet pilot taking both of them towards the atmosphere. This was allowed to happen because the Hulk jumped on the fight-jet to prevent it from colliding with the Golden Gate Bridge after the pilot lost control and could not pull up to avoid flying into it. It's a subtle, but it makes perfect sense.
** Heck, the aforementioned fighter jet attack itself. It comes from nowhere, it is never mentioned again and almost doesn't contribute nothing to the movie. Either it is Big-Lipped Alligator Moment or Padding.

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** %%** The "puny human" scene where the Hulk bursts out of Bruce's mirror made for a great teaser trailer, and makes sense as broad symbolism of the conflict between Bruce's fears and psychoses. It was included in the movie... in the middle of a fall off a fighter plane. Bruce was dreaming it, but it makes no sense in the context of the fighter jet attack. It does actually if one thinks of it as Hulk expressing anger and hate at the human in him (Banner) who almost cost him his life by saving human lives. Remember, that scene is a dream sequence. The hulk has been knocked unconscious as a result of the fighter-jet pilot taking both of them towards the atmosphere. This was allowed to happen because the Hulk jumped on the fight-jet to prevent it from colliding with the Golden Gate Bridge after the pilot lost control and could not pull up to avoid flying into it. It's a subtle, but it makes perfect sense.
** Heck, the aforementioned The fighter jet attack itself. It comes from out of nowhere, it is never mentioned again again, and almost doesn't contribute nothing contributes very little to the movie.plot. Either it is Big-Lipped Alligator Moment or Padding.
18th Apr '18 5:11:48 PM TheMountainKing
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Is David Banner truly remorseful of his actions? His second confrontation with Betty seems to indicate yes, but [[AbusiveParents his actions]] [[AGodAmI during the rest of the film]] [[ManipulativeBastard suggest that this admission of guilt is insincere]]. Fueling the latter interpretation is the Peter David novelization which outright confirms that David's merely attempting to illicit sympathy.
** Does Bruce's disease can be cured or should it be kept?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is David Banner truly remorseful of his actions? His second confrontation with Betty seems to indicate yes, but [[AbusiveParents his actions]] [[AGodAmI during the rest of the film]] [[ManipulativeBastard suggest that this admission of guilt is insincere]]. Fueling the latter interpretation is the Peter David novelization which outright confirms that David's merely attempting to illicit sympathy. \n** Does Bruce's disease can be cured or should it be kept?
27th Mar '18 1:12:58 AM comicwriter
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* UncertainAudience: Ultimately the film's downfall. It was a movie that was too artsy and somber for your typical superhero audience, and yet the fact that it was about a superhero in the first place alienated serious viewers who might have otherwise been interested in the more cerebral and artistic merits of the film.
1st Mar '18 3:43:09 AM ImSpidey2
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--> '''STOP...WHAT?! [[PunctuatedForEmphasis STOP!!]]''' '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis WHAT?!!]]''''' Think about all those...''MEN'' out there in their ''UNIFORMS! BARKING'' and ''SWALLOWING ORDERS'', inflicting their ''petty'' rule of the ''entire globe!'' '''THINK ABOUT ALL THE HARM THEY'VE''' '''''DONE!!''''' '''TO YOU!''' '''TO''' '''''ME!''''' '''''TO HUMANITY!''''' And know this, that we can make ''THEM'', and their ''FLAGS and ANTHEMS'' and ''GOVERNMENTS'' - '''''DISAPPEAR!!!''''' IN A ''FLASH!'' You - ''in'' me! [...] Then, indeed you ''shall'' die...and be ''REBORN''...a hero! ''OF THE KIND THAT WALKED THE EARTH, '''LONG''' BEFORE THE PALE RELIGIONS OF CIVILIZATION, '''INFECTED HUMANITY'S SOUL!!!'''''

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--> '''STOP...WHAT?! [[PunctuatedForEmphasis STOP!!]]''' '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis WHAT?!!]]''''' Think ''THINK'' about all those...''MEN'' out there in their ''UNIFORMS! BARKING'' and ''SWALLOWING ORDERS'', inflicting their ''petty'' rule of the ''entire globe!'' '''THINK ABOUT ALL THE HARM THEY'VE''' '''''DONE!!''''' '''TO YOU!''' '''TO''' '''''ME!''''' '''''TO HUMANITY!''''' And know this, that we can make ''THEM'', and their ''FLAGS and ANTHEMS'' and ''GOVERNMENTS'' - '''''DISAPPEAR!!!''''' IN A ''FLASH!'' You - ''in'' me! [...] Then, indeed you ''shall'' die...and be ''REBORN''...a hero! ''OF THE KIND THAT WALKED THE EARTH, '''LONG''' BEFORE THE PALE RELIGIONS OF CIVILIZATION, '''INFECTED HUMANITY'S SOUL!!!'''''
22nd Feb '18 1:24:29 PM cwf123
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--> '''Betty''': Yeah. l think maybe there's a market for it. Frogs start falling from the sky...who do they come to?

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--> '''Betty''': Yeah. l I think maybe there's a market for it. Frogs start falling from the sky...who do they come to?



--> '''Betty''': He saved my life.

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--> '''Betty''': He I'm also aware that saved my life.



--> '''STOP...WHAT?! [[PunctuatedForEmphasis STOP!!]]''' '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis WHAT?!!]]''''' Think about all those...''MEN'' out there in their ''UNIFORMS! BARKING'' and ''SWALLOWING ORDERS'', inflicting their ''petty'' rule of the ''entire globe!'' '''THINK ABOUT ALL THE HARM THEY'VE''' '''''DONE!!''''' '''TO YOU!''' '''TO''' '''''ME!''''' '''''TO HUMANITY!''''' And know this, that we can make ''THEM'', and their ''FLAGS and ANTHEMS'' and ''GOVERNMENTS'' - '''''DISAPPEAR!!!''''' IN A ''FLASH!'' You - ''in'' me! [...] And indeed you ''shall'' die...and be ''REBORN''...a hero! ''OF THE KIND THAT WALKED THE EARTH, '''LONG''' BEFORE THE PALE RELIGIONS OF CIVILIZATION, '''INFECTED HUMANITY'S SOUL!!!'''''

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--> '''STOP...WHAT?! [[PunctuatedForEmphasis STOP!!]]''' '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis WHAT?!!]]''''' Think about all those...''MEN'' out there in their ''UNIFORMS! BARKING'' and ''SWALLOWING ORDERS'', inflicting their ''petty'' rule of the ''entire globe!'' '''THINK ABOUT ALL THE HARM THEY'VE''' '''''DONE!!''''' '''TO YOU!''' '''TO''' '''''ME!''''' '''''TO HUMANITY!''''' And know this, that we can make ''THEM'', and their ''FLAGS and ANTHEMS'' and ''GOVERNMENTS'' - '''''DISAPPEAR!!!''''' IN A ''FLASH!'' You - ''in'' me! [...] And Then, indeed you ''shall'' die...and be ''REBORN''...a hero! ''OF THE KIND THAT WALKED THE EARTH, '''LONG''' BEFORE THE PALE RELIGIONS OF CIVILIZATION, '''INFECTED HUMANITY'S SOUL!!!'''''



** This wouldn't be the only time Hulk fought a [[Film/{{ThorRagnarok}} giant dog]]

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** This wouldn't be the only time Hulk fought a [[Film/{{ThorRagnarok}} giant dog]]dog]].



* PopularityPolynomial: Even though the film was quickly forgotten, the releases of ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'' (another take on the Hulk story that even starts at a similar point in which this film ended) and ''Film/{{Logan}}'' (another harsh depiction of a Marvel property with intense mood and very little humor) made people give it another try.

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* PopularityPolynomial: PopularityPolynomial:
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Even though the film was quickly forgotten, the releases of ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'' (another take on the Hulk story that even starts at a similar point in which this film ended) and ''Film/{{Logan}}'' (another harsh depiction of a Marvel property with intense mood and very little humor) made people give it another try.try.
** There were several positive mentions and reviews of it by Creator/ChristianFrates.
21st Feb '18 4:14:52 AM ImSpidey2
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--> '''STOP...WHAT?! [[PunctuatedForEmphasis STOP!!]]''' '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis WHAT?!!]]''''' Think about all those...''MEN'' out there in their ''UNIFORMS! BARKING'' and ''SWALLOWING ORDERS'', inflicting their ''petty'' rule of the ''entire globe!'' '''THINK ABOUT ALL THE HARM THEY'VE ''DONE!!''''' '''TO YOU! TO ''ME! TO HUMANITY!''''' And know this, that we can make ''THEM'', and their ''FLAGS and ANTHEMS'' and ''governments'' - '''''DISAPPEAR!!!''''' IN A ''FLASH!'' You - ''in'' me! [...] And indeed you ''shall'' die...and be ''REBORN''...a hero! ''OF THE KIND THAT WALKED THE EARTH, '''LONG''' BEFORE THE PALE RELIGIONS OF CIVILIZATION, '''INFECTED HUMANITY'S SOUL!!!'''''

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--> '''STOP...WHAT?! [[PunctuatedForEmphasis STOP!!]]''' '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis WHAT?!!]]''''' Think about all those...''MEN'' out there in their ''UNIFORMS! BARKING'' and ''SWALLOWING ORDERS'', inflicting their ''petty'' rule of the ''entire globe!'' '''THINK ABOUT ALL THE HARM THEY'VE ''DONE!!''''' THEY'VE''' '''''DONE!!''''' '''TO YOU! TO ''ME! TO YOU!''' '''TO''' '''''ME!''''' '''''TO HUMANITY!''''' And know this, that we can make ''THEM'', and their ''FLAGS and ANTHEMS'' and ''governments'' ''GOVERNMENTS'' - '''''DISAPPEAR!!!''''' IN A ''FLASH!'' You - ''in'' me! [...] And indeed you ''shall'' die...and be ''REBORN''...a hero! ''OF THE KIND THAT WALKED THE EARTH, '''LONG''' BEFORE THE PALE RELIGIONS OF CIVILIZATION, '''INFECTED HUMANITY'S SOUL!!!'''''
21st Feb '18 2:09:16 AM ImSpidey2
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* HamAndCheese: Nick Nolte, particularly during his HumansAreBastards speech.
--> '''STOP...WHAT?! [[PunctuatedForEmphasis STOP!!]]''' '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis WHAT?!!]]''''' Think about all those...''MEN'' out there in their ''UNIFORMS! BARKING'' and ''SWALLOWING ORDERS'', inflicting their ''petty'' rule of the ''entire globe!'' '''THINK ABOUT ALL THE HARM THEY'VE ''DONE!!''''' '''TO YOU! TO ''ME! TO HUMANITY!''''' And know this, that we can make ''THEM'', and their ''FLAGS and ANTHEMS'' and ''governments'' - '''''DISAPPEAR!!!''''' IN A ''FLASH!'' You - ''in'' me! [...] And indeed you ''shall'' die...and be ''REBORN''...a hero! ''OF THE KIND THAT WALKED THE EARTH, '''LONG''' BEFORE THE PALE RELIGIONS OF CIVILIZATION, '''INFECTED HUMANITY'S SOUL!!!'''''



** Ross suddenly letting out a random yell during one scene.
--> But I don't set policy...and I still take orders. ...'''''D'YAAAAHHH!!!''''' I can't ''believe'' Talbot would go around me like this!

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** Ross suddenly letting out a random yell during one scene.
scene. It isn't ''poorly'' acted, but it does just come out of nowhere.
--> But I don't set policy...and I still take orders. ...'''''D'YAAAAHHH!!!''''' '''''GR'YAAAAHHH!!!''''' I can't ''believe'' Talbot would go around me like this!
19th Feb '18 1:22:17 AM ImSpidey2
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** Ross suddenly letting out a random yell during one scene.
--> But I don't set policy...and I still take orders. ...'''''D'YAAAAHHH!!!''''' I can't ''believe'' Talbot would go around me like this!
18th Feb '18 1:26:49 AM ImSpidey2
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Despite the dark tone, the film does have some humor to it. An example is after the {{Squick}}y frog scene:
--> '''Bruce''': You want to go to the review board on Monday and tell them that we've developed a brand-new method for exploding frogs?
--> '''Betty''': Yeah. l think maybe there's a market for it. Frogs start falling from the sky...who do they come to?
** Another is Ross being a DeadpanSnarker:
--> '''Betty''': He saved my life.
--> '''Ross''': Yeah, [[spoiler:from a mutant French poodle.]] I'm indebted to him for that.
12th Feb '18 8:06:49 AM cwf123
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* CantUnhearIt: The voices of Nick Nolte and Sam Elliot for the Father and General Ross seem to make people think of those characters in the voices; especially the latter.
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