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** It goes FromBadToWorse when she turns pedophile and sleeps with Aaram, repeatedly, despite him wanting to be pure and keep his beliefs (his age is left vague, while he may be physically mature enough he has the mental and emotional capacity of a child) all to turn him against his father. Many fans were rather Squicked by this.
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** It goes FromBadToWorse when she turns pedophile and sleeps with Aaram, Aayan, repeatedly, despite him wanting to be pure and keep his beliefs (his age is left vague, while he may be physically mature enough he has the mental and emotional capacity of a child) all to turn him against his father. Many fans were rather Squicked by this.
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* FakeAmerican: Nicholas Brody is played by British actor Creator/DamianLewis.
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** Season 2. Early Season 3 had an intentional BaseBreaker as [[spoiler: Saul seemed to be pitted against Carrie, when Carrie had been [[TheHero The (Anti)Hero]] and Saul had been the [[NiceGuy nicest character on the show]]. Some fans questioned Saul's morality, and others Carrie's sanity (and some certainly questioned both). It turned out that Saul was moral, Carrie was sane, and they were working together in a BatmanGambit to fool the Iranians]]. Viewers now have a different thing to question, whether they should have been kept out of the loop for almost 4 episodes.
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As the series goes on, Carrie's bipolar condition has become this. Some fans consider it an essential part of Carrie without which her character wouldn't be the same, while others would like the writers to just do away with it.
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** As the series goes on, Carrie's bipolar condition has become this. Some fans consider it an essential part of Carrie without which her character wouldn't be the same, while others would like the writers to just do away with it.
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** Same for Creator/TimothéeChalamet, who appeared as Finn Walden.
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** It goes FromBadToWorse when she turns pedophile and sleeps with Aaram, repeatedly, despite him wanting to be pure and keep his beliefs (his age is left vague, while he may be physically mature enough he has the mental and emotional capacity of a child) all to turn him against his father. Many fans were rather Squicked by this.
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* TheChrisCarterEffect: Brody's arc could have been satisfyingly resolved at the conclusion of season one, or season two at the latest. Instead the writers kept him around until season 4, and a significant number of fans consider that resulted in a steady decrease of the series' quality.
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* TheChrisCarterEffect: Brody's arc could have been satisfyingly resolved at the conclusion of season one, or season two at the latest. Instead the writers kept him around until season 4, 3, and a significant number of fans consider that resulted in a steady decrease of the series' quality.
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* TheChrisCarterEffect: Brody's arc could have been satisfyingly resolved at the conclusion of season one. one, or season two at the latest. Instead the writers kept him around for two more seasons, until season 4, and a significant number of fans consider that resulted in a steady decrease of the series' quality.
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* FakeAmerican: Nicholas Brody is played by British actor Creator/DamianLewis.
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* {{Designated Hero}}ine: Carrie, by Season 3. She drinks heavily [[spoiler: despite being pregnant, and nearly compromises national security while pursuing her love affair with Brody]]. [[http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/sunday-night-tv-precap-carrie-mathisons-terrible-at-her-job-rick-vs-the-guv-and-50-years-of-the-doctor/ As noted by Andy Greenwald]], Carrie is quite bad at her job.
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* {{Designated Hero}}ine: DesignatedHero: Carrie, by Season 3. She drinks heavily [[spoiler: despite being pregnant, and nearly compromises national security while pursuing her love affair with Brody]]. [[http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/sunday-night-tv-precap-carrie-mathisons-terrible-at-her-job-rick-vs-the-guv-and-50-years-of-the-doctor/ As noted by Andy Greenwald]], Carrie is quite bad at her job.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: A year before heading to [[{{Series/Glee}} Lima, Ohio]] and four years before donning [[{{Series/Supergirl2015}} a rather famous cape]] and becoming allies with Estes, Creator/MelissaBenoist appeared in a Season 1 episode as a girl auditioning for a Saudi Arabian Prince's harem.
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* Asspull: The plot twist in the Season 3 episode, "Game On". [[http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-homeland-game-on-say-hi-to-your-mother-for-me As some critics will point out, the twist does not work]] if it has no logical basis from previous scenes.
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* Asspull: {{Asspull}}: The plot twist in the Season 3 episode, "Game On". [[http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-homeland-game-on-say-hi-to-your-mother-for-me As some critics will point out, the twist does not work]] if it has no logical basis from previous scenes.
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* AssPull: The plot twist in the Season 3 episode, "Game On". [[http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-homeland-game-on-say-hi-to-your-mother-for-me As some critics will point out, the twist does not work]] if it has no logical basis from previous scenes.
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* AssPull: Asspull: The plot twist in the Season 3 episode, "Game On". [[http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-homeland-game-on-say-hi-to-your-mother-for-me As some critics will point out, the twist does not work]] if it has no logical basis from previous scenes.
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* {{Narm}}: Some of Claire Danes' overacting approaches it, especially when the sultry jazz kicks in.
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* {{Narm}}: Some of Claire Danes' Creator/ClaireDanes' overacting approaches it, especially when the sultry jazz kicks in.
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* SeasonalRot: A common view among the fans is that the series' writing quality gradually declined after a universally celebrated season 1. Season 4 is widely noted as an attempt by the writers to turn things back around, though how well they did that is definitely up to discussion.
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** Season 2. Early Season 3 had an intentional BaseBreaker as [[spoiler: Saul seemed to be pitted against Carrie, when Carrie had been [[TheHero The (Anti)Hero]] and Saul had been the [[NiceGuy nicest character on the show]]. Some fans questioned Saul's morality, and others Carrie's sanity (and some certainly questioned both). It turned out that Saul was moral, Carrie was sane, and they were working together in a BatmanGambit to fool the Iranians.]] Viewers now have a different thing to question, whether they should have been kept out of the loop for almost 4 episodes.
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** Season 2. Early Season 3 had an intentional BaseBreaker as [[spoiler: Saul seemed to be pitted against Carrie, when Carrie had been [[TheHero The (Anti)Hero]] and Saul had been the [[NiceGuy nicest character on the show]]. Some fans questioned Saul's morality, and others Carrie's sanity (and some certainly questioned both). It turned out that Saul was moral, Carrie was sane, and they were working together in a BatmanGambit to fool the Iranians.]] Iranians]]. Viewers now have a different thing to question, whether they should have been kept out of the loop for almost 4 episodes.
* NightmareFuel: Of all the horrible scenes that have happened in this show, an overwhelming chunk of audience agree that Carrie's near-drowning her own baby terrifies them the most. Does she mean it? Is she just careless? Or is it an illusion entirely? We'll never find out.
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* NightmareFuel: Of all the horrible scenes that have happened in this show, an overwhelming chunk of audience agree that Carrie's near-drowning her own baby terrifies them the most. Does she mean it? Is she just careless? Or is it an illusion entirely? We'll never find out.
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* OlderThanYouThink: The concept of a homecoming American MIA convert to Islam has been explored much earlier in 2006, in Literature/JohnWells' spy novel series. Coincidentally, the author of the series is a friend of Howard Gordon's. In fact, Saul Berenson is named after the author.
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* OlderThanYouThink: OlderThanTheyThink: The concept of a homecoming American MIA convert to Islam has been explored much earlier in 2006, in Literature/JohnWells' spy novel series. Coincidentally, the author of the series is a friend of Howard Gordon's. In fact, Saul Berenson is named after the author.
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* TheUntwist: Averted and inverted at the end of Season 2. [[spoiler: Abu Nazir is dead, which in Estes's eyes, makes Brody expendable. Estes orders Quinn to take out Brody. Quinn stands down, arguing that Brody and Carrie did lead them to Abu Nazir. So Brody lives another day, despite the buildup that had taken place in prior episodes. Estes lets Saul go, thus resolving the plot thread where Estes planned to ruin Saul's career. By this point in the episode, the show has almost run out of established story to move forward... until the car bomb goes off at Vice-President Walden's funeral. Ironically, in targeting someone he determined was expendable, Estes became expendable himself.]]
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* VillainSue: As season 2 nears its conclusion Abu Nazir is starting to feel like this.
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* VillainSue: As season 2 nears its conclusion TheUntwist: Averted and inverted at the end of Season 2. [[spoiler: Abu Nazir is starting dead, which in Estes's eyes, makes Brody expendable. Estes orders Quinn to feel like this.take out Brody. Quinn stands down, arguing that Brody and Carrie did lead them to Abu Nazir. So Brody lives another day, despite the buildup that had taken place in prior episodes. Estes lets Saul go, thus resolving the plot thread where Estes planned to ruin Saul's career. By this point in the episode, the show has almost run out of established story to move forward... until the car bomb goes off at Vice-President Walden's funeral. Ironically, in targeting someone he determined was expendable, Estes became expendable himself.]]
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: We're clearly supposed to sympathize with Brody's spiral down into rock bottom, but let us not forget that the guy's a terrorist who was planning to a) infiltrate high office or b) blow up a lot of people. Not to mention that he did, in fact, kill multiple people in service to terrorism. He deserves everything he gets.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: We're clearly supposed to sympathize with Brody's spiral down into rock bottom, but let us not forget that the guy's a terrorist who was planning to a) infiltrate high office or b) blow up a lot of people. Not to mention that he did, in fact, kill multiple people in service to terrorism. He deserves everything he gets.
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** Reviewers have long criticized the show for making Al-Qaeda more competent than they really are, though the writers tried to {{justif|iedTrope}}y this deviation by implying that Abu Nazir's network is actually a Qaeda splinter group. Several months after the conclusion of Abu Nazir arc, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria came to prominence. For those not keeping up with the news, ISIS started off as a franchise of al-Qaida until they broke off completely, and they have proven to be far more powerful and dangerous than their former parent organization.
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** Reviewers have long criticized the show for making Al-Qaeda more competent than they really are, though the writers tried to {{justif|iedTrope}}y this deviation by implying that Abu Nazir's network is actually a Qaeda splinter group. Several months after the conclusion of Abu Nazir arc, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria came to prominence. For those not keeping up with the news, ISIS started off as a franchise of al-Qaida until they broke off completely, completely in mid-2014, and they have proven to be far more powerful and dangerous than their former parent organization.
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** Reviewers have long criticized the show for making Al-Qaeda more competent than they really are, though the writers tried to {{justif|iedTrope}}y this deviation by implying that Abu Nazir's network is actually a Qaeda splinter group. Several months after the conclusion of Abu Nazir arc, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria came to prominence. For those not keeping up with the news, ISIS started off as a franchise of al-Qaida until they broke off completely, and they have proven to be far more powerful and dangerous than their former parent organization.
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* BaseBreaker: As the series goes on, Carrie's bipolar condition has become this. Some fans consider it an essential part of Carrie without which her character wouldn't be the same, while others would like the writers to just do away with it.
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** [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34536434 It's gotten to the point]] that artists hired to provide Arabic graffiti in the background [[WriterRevolt wrote messages criticizing Homeland for racism into the show itself]].
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** [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34536434 It's gotten to the point]] that artists hired to provide Arabic graffiti in the background [[WriterRevolt wrote messages criticizing Homeland for racism into the show itself]].
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* TheChrisCarterEffect: Brody's arc could have been satisfyingly resolved at the conclusion of season one. Instead the writers kept him around for two more seasons, and a significant number of fans consider that resulted in a steady decrease of the series' quality.
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* OlderThanYouThink: The concept of a homecoming American MIA convert to Islam has been explored much earlier in 2006, in JohnWells' spy novel series. Coincidentally, the author of the series is a friend of Howard Gordon's. In fact, Saul Berenson is named after the author.
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* OlderThanYouThink: The concept of a homecoming American MIA convert to Islam has been explored much earlier in 2006, in JohnWells' Literature/JohnWells' spy novel series. Coincidentally, the author of the series is a friend of Howard Gordon's. In fact, Saul Berenson is named after the author.
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* VillainHasAPoint: The [[BreakThemByTalking breaking speech]] given by the lawyer in 3x04 to Carrie, about how the CIA will first break her, then kill her. He may be a slime-sucking traitorous whore, but he's probably right.
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* DesignatedHero: Carrie, by Season 3. She drinks heavily [[spoiler: despite being pregnant, and nearly compromises national security while pursuing her love affair with Brody.]] [[http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/sunday-night-tv-precap-carrie-mathisons-terrible-at-her-job-rick-vs-the-guv-and-50-years-of-the-doctor/ As noted by Andy Greenwald]], Carrie is quite bad at her job.
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* DesignatedHero: {{Designated Hero}}ine: Carrie, by Season 3. She drinks heavily [[spoiler: despite being pregnant, and nearly compromises national security while pursuing her love affair with Brody.]] Brody]]. [[http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/sunday-night-tv-precap-carrie-mathisons-terrible-at-her-job-rick-vs-the-guv-and-50-years-of-the-doctor/ As noted by Andy Greenwald]], Carrie is quite bad at her job.
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* MagnificentBastard: Abu Nazir's magnificence and bastardy are hard to match. VisionaryVillain? Check. [[XanatosGambit Playing the long game]]? Yessir. [[XanatosSpeedChess Adaptable]]? Oh yes. [[RefugeInAudacity Daring]]? And how! Willing to kill [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness underlings whom he no longer needs]], [[YouHaveFailedMe those who threaten his security]], [[AndYourLittleDogToo their parents, wives, siblings]], and [[WouldHurtAChild children]]? You bet.
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* MagnificentBastard: Abu Nazir's magnificence and bastardy are hard to match. VisionaryVillain? Check. [[XanatosGambit Playing the long game]]? game?]] Yessir. [[XanatosSpeedChess Adaptable]]? Adaptable?]] Oh yes. [[RefugeInAudacity Daring]]? Daring?]] And how! Willing to kill [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness underlings whom he no longer needs]], [[YouHaveFailedMe those who threaten his security]], [[AndYourLittleDogToo their parents, wives, siblings]], and [[WouldHurtAChild children]]? You bet.
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* {{Narm}}: Some of Claire Danes' overacting appproaches it, especially when the sultry jazz kicks in.
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* VillainHasAPoint: The BreakingSpeech given by the lawyer in 3x04 to Carrie, about how the CIA will first break her, then kill her. He may be a slime-sucking traitorous whore, but he's probably right.
* VillainSue: As season 2 nears its conclusion Abu Nazir is starting to feel like this.
* TheWoobie: Nicholas Brody. He comes back to his family eight years after leaving them, tortured and broken and struggling to return to normal life--[[spoiler:while also being forced to lie to them. Then he thinks that he's found someone who understands him--nope, she's been spying on him the whole time.]]
** [[spoiler:It gets worse in the second season after the CIA finally finds evidence that he is a terrorist, and forces him to work with them. He has to keep lying, and even more than he did before.]]
* VillainSue: As season 2 nears its conclusion Abu Nazir is starting to feel like this.
* TheWoobie: Nicholas Brody. He comes back to his family eight years after leaving them, tortured and broken and struggling to return to normal life--[[spoiler:while also being forced to lie to them. Then he thinks that he's found someone who understands him--nope, she's been spying on him the whole time.]]
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* VillainHasAPoint: The [[BreakThemByTalking breaking speech]] given by the lawyer in 3x04 to Carrie, about how the CIA will first break her, then kill her. He may be a slime-sucking traitorous whore, but he's probably right.
* VillainSue: As season 2 nears its conclusion Abu Nazir is starting to feel like this.
* TheWoobie: Nicholas Brody. He comes back to his family eight years after leaving them, tortured and broken and struggling to return to normal life--[[spoiler:while also being forced to lie to them. Then he thinks that he's found someone who understands him--nope, she's been spying on him the whole time.]]
** [[spoiler:It gets worse in the second season after the CIA finally finds evidence that he is a terrorist, and forces him to work with them. He has to keep lying, and even more than he did before.]]
* VillainSue: As season 2 nears its conclusion Abu Nazir is starting to feel like this.
* TheWoobie: Nicholas Brody. He comes back to his family eight years after leaving them, tortured and broken and struggling to return to normal life--[[spoiler:while also being forced to lie to them. Then he thinks that he's found someone who understands him--nope, she's been spying on him the whole time.]]
** [[spoiler:It gets worse in the second season after the CIA finally finds evidence that he is a terrorist, and forces him to work with them. He has to keep lying, and even more than he did before.]]
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* BrokenBase: Season 2. Early Season 3 had an intentional BaseBreaker as [[spoiler: Saul seemed to be pitted against Carrie, when Carrie had been [[TheHero The (Anti)Hero]] and Saul had been the [[NiceGuy nicest character on the show]]. Some fans questioned Saul's morality, and others Carrie's sanity (and some certainly questioned both). It turned out that Saul was moral, Carrie was sane, and they were working together in a BatmanGambit to fool the Iranians.]] Viewers now have a different thing to question, whether they should have been kept out of the loop for almost 4 episodes.
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** Season 2. Early Season 3 had an intentional BaseBreaker as [[spoiler: Saul seemed to be pitted against Carrie, when Carrie had been [[TheHero The (Anti)Hero]] and Saul had been the [[NiceGuy nicest character on the show]]. Some fans questioned Saul's morality, and others Carrie's sanity (and some certainly questioned both). It turned out that Saul was moral, Carrie was sane, and they were working together in a BatmanGambit to fool the Iranians.]] Viewers now have a different thing to question, whether they should have been kept out of the loop for almost 4 episodes.
** Season 2. Early Season 3 had an intentional BaseBreaker as [[spoiler: Saul seemed to be pitted against Carrie, when Carrie had been [[TheHero The (Anti)Hero]] and Saul had been the [[NiceGuy nicest character on the show]]. Some fans questioned Saul's morality, and others Carrie's sanity (and some certainly questioned both). It turned out that Saul was moral, Carrie was sane, and they were working together in a BatmanGambit to fool the Iranians.]] Viewers now have a different thing to question, whether they should have been kept out of the loop for almost 4 episodes.
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* CreatorsPet: A lot of people are starting to call Dana this in season 3, mostly because of the writer's decision to devote 35% of every early season episode ("Tower of David" excepted) to her RomanticPlotTumor despite how pointless and unpopular it's been to date.
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** Quinn. Some fans are not at all thrilled by his holier-than-thou attitude in Season 4.
** A lot of people are starting to call Dana this in season 3, mostly because of the writer's decision to devote 35% of every early season episode ("Tower of David" excepted) to her RomanticPlotTumor despite how pointless and unpopular it's been to
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* NightmareFuel: Of all the horrible scenes that have happened in this show, an overwhelming chunk of audience agree that Carrie's near-drowning her own baby terrifies them the most. Does she mean it? Is she just careless? Or is it an illusion entirely? We'll never find out.
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