History YMMV / HeroesReborn

5th Mar '16 10:35:23 AM nombretomado
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** ''Heroes Reborn: The Return'', the miniseries that hauled everyone back to Earth-616 once it was clear that ''Heroes Reborn'' was a failure. Before then, the second halves of the ''CaptainAmerica'' and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' titles, both heavily {{Retool}}ed after Liefeld rejected Marvel's new contract terms and Wildstorm took over production.

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** ''Heroes Reborn: The Return'', the miniseries that hauled everyone back to Earth-616 once it was clear that ''Heroes Reborn'' was a failure. Before then, the second halves of the ''CaptainAmerica'' ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' titles, both heavily {{Retool}}ed after Liefeld rejected Marvel's new contract terms and Wildstorm took over production.
25th Oct '15 3:38:23 PM StFan
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** The approach to the coming of Galactus, with several heralds instead of one, and each one establishing and protecting a machine at distant places of the world instead of a single machine in New York, was used again in the animated series ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''.

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** The approach to the coming of Galactus, with several heralds instead of one, and each one establishing and protecting a machine at distant places of the world instead of a single machine in New York, was used again in the animated series ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''.''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''.
13th Aug '15 9:25:20 AM Anicomicgeek
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** The approach to the coming of Galactus, with several heralds instead of one, and each one establishing and protecting a machine at distant places of the world instead of a single machine in New York, was used again in the animated series ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightestHeroes''.

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** The approach to the coming of Galactus, with several heralds instead of one, and each one establishing and protecting a machine at distant places of the world instead of a single machine in New York, was used again in the animated series ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightestHeroes''.''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''.
9th Apr '15 12:20:41 PM Anicomicgeek
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** The approach to the coming of Galactus, with several heralds instead of one, and each one establishing and protecting a machine at distant places of the world instead of a single machine in New York, was used again in the animated series ''Avengers: Earth Mightest Heroes''
** HarsherInHindsight: The first post-Liefeld ''Captain America'' issue mildly retconned Cap's backstory to reveal that the United States tried defrosting him during both UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar and UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, only to put him back under when their mental conditioning started to buckle. Years later, the revelation that the Winter Soldier, formerly Earth-616 Captain America's sidekick Bucky Barnes, was kept in hibernation by the Soviets until needed made this twist horrifyingly familiar.

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** The approach to the coming of Galactus, with several heralds instead of one, and each one establishing and protecting a machine at distant places of the world instead of a single machine in New York, was used again in the animated series ''Avengers: Earth Mightest Heroes''
''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightestHeroes''.
** HarsherInHindsight: The first post-Liefeld ''Captain America'' issue mildly retconned Cap's backstory to reveal that the United States tried defrosting him during both UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar and UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, only to put him back under when their mental conditioning started to buckle. Years later, the revelation that the Winter Soldier, formerly Earth-616 Captain America's sidekick Bucky Barnes, ComicBook/BuckyBarnes, was kept in hibernation by the Soviets until needed made this twist horrifyingly familiar.
2nd Apr '15 11:52:19 AM Anicomicgeek
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Heroes Reborn: The Return'', the miniseries that hauled everyone back to Earth-616 once it was clear that ''Heroes Reborn'' was a failure. Before then, the second halves of the ''CaptainAmerica'' and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' titles, both heavily {{Retool}}ed after Liefeld rejected Marvel's new contract terms and Wildstorm took over production.

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''Heroes Reborn: The Return'', the miniseries that hauled everyone back to Earth-616 once it was clear that ''Heroes Reborn'' was a failure. Before then, the second halves of the ''CaptainAmerica'' and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' titles, both heavily {{Retool}}ed after Liefeld rejected Marvel's new contract terms and Wildstorm took over production.



* DorkAge: Widely considered to be one, but between it, ''Comicbook/HeroesReturn'', and ''Comicbook/AvengersForever'', they undid a lot of the damage the ''Comicbook/TheCrossing'' did (teen Tony, adult Tony being evil, mutated Wasp).
** Still, the executive side of the comic book is one thing, the actual plots and arts are another. In themselves, the issues by Rob Liefeld are even ''worse'' than The Crossing, and perhaps the worst material in all the history of the Avengers.

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* DorkAge: Widely considered to be one, but between it, ''Comicbook/HeroesReturn'', and ''Comicbook/AvengersForever'', they undid a lot of the damage the ''Comicbook/TheCrossing'' did (teen Tony, adult Tony being evil, mutated Wasp).
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Wasp). Still, the executive side of the comic book is one thing, the actual plots and arts are another. In themselves, the issues by Rob Liefeld are even ''worse'' than The Crossing, and perhaps the worst material in all the history of the Avengers.



* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of the Avengers being a team under the command of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sound familiar? Yeah, this predates ''TheUltimates''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: OlderThanTheyThink:
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The idea of the Avengers being a team under the command of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sound familiar? Yeah, this predates ''TheUltimates''.''ComicBook/TheUltimates''.
8th Mar '15 3:33:09 AM KingClark
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* DorkAge: Widely considered to be one, but between it, ''Comicbook/HeroesReturn'', and ''Comicbook/AvengersForever'', they undid a lot of the damage the ''Comicbook/TheCrossing'' did (Teen Tony, adult Tony being evil, mutated Wasp).

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* DorkAge: Widely considered to be one, but between it, ''Comicbook/HeroesReturn'', and ''Comicbook/AvengersForever'', they undid a lot of the damage the ''Comicbook/TheCrossing'' did (Teen (teen Tony, adult Tony being evil, mutated Wasp).
4th Jan '14 1:27:14 PM LongLiveHumour
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** HarsherInHindsight: The first post-Liefeld ''Captain America'' issue mildly retconned Cap's backstory to reveal that the United States tried defrosting him during both TheKoreanWar and TheVietnamWar, only to put him back under when their mental conditioning started to buckle. Years later, the revelation that the Winter Soldier, formerly Earth-616 Captain America's sidekick Bucky Barnes, was kept in hibernation by the Soviets until needed made this twist horrifyingly familiar.

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** HarsherInHindsight: The first post-Liefeld ''Captain America'' issue mildly retconned Cap's backstory to reveal that the United States tried defrosting him during both TheKoreanWar UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar and TheVietnamWar, UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, only to put him back under when their mental conditioning started to buckle. Years later, the revelation that the Winter Soldier, formerly Earth-616 Captain America's sidekick Bucky Barnes, was kept in hibernation by the Soviets until needed made this twist horrifyingly familiar.
18th Jul '13 8:57:28 AM Anicomicgeek
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* DorkAge: Widely considered to be one, but between it, ''Comicbook/HeroesReturn'', and ''Comicbook/AvengersForever'', they undid a lot of the damage the ''TheCrossing'' did (Teen Tony, adult Tony being evil, mutated Wasp).

to:

* DorkAge: Widely considered to be one, but between it, ''Comicbook/HeroesReturn'', and ''Comicbook/AvengersForever'', they undid a lot of the damage the ''TheCrossing'' ''Comicbook/TheCrossing'' did (Teen Tony, adult Tony being evil, mutated Wasp).
1st May '13 9:18:32 PM SpideyTerry
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** {{Berserker}} Thor not being the real Thor.


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* GrowingTheBeard: Liefeld quit after issue 7. Walt Simonson then took over the ''Avengers'' title, penning five very well-received issues. ''Captain America'' saw similar improvements.
7th Apr '13 5:58:06 PM binaroid
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** HarsherInHindsight: The first post-Liefeld ''Captain America'' issue mildly retconned Cap's backstory to reveal that the United States tried defrosting him during both TheKoreanWar and TheVietnamWar, only to put him back under when their mental conditioning started to buckle. Years later, the revelation that the Winter Soldier, formerly Earth-616 Captain America's sidekick Bucky Barnes, was kept in hibernation by the Soviets until needed made this twist horrifyingly familiar.
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