Line #6 YMMV/HeroesReborn


1	* AudienceAlienatingEra: Widely considered to be one, but between it, ''Comicbook/HeroesReturn'', and ''Comicbook/AvengersForever'', [[SalvagedStory they undid a lot of the damage]] ''Comicbook/TheCrossing'' did (teen Tony, adult Tony being evil and dead, mutated Wasp). Still, the executive side of the comic book is one thing, the actual plots and arts are another. In themselves, the issues by Rob Liefeld are even ''worse'' than The Crossing, and perhaps the worst material in all the history of the Avengers.
2	* CriticProof: Critics and fans reject it, but it had good sales. Good sales as to ''save Marvel Comics from bankruptcy''.
3	* GrowingTheBeard: Liefeld quit after issue 7. Walt Simonson then took over the ''Avengers'' title, penning five very well-received issues. ''Captain America'' saw similar improvements when James Robinson took over writing duties.
4	* OlderThanTheyThink:
5	** An attempt at streamlining the continuity and origins of Marvel heroes, ditching the older continuity, and starting rumors of replacing the originals entirely, years before ''ComicBook/UltimateMarvel''.
6	** The idea of the Avengers being a team under the command of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sound familiar? Yeah, this predates ''ComicBook/TheUltimates''.
7	** The approach to the coming of Galactus, with several heralds instead of one, and each one establishing and protecting a machine at distant places of the world instead of a single machine in New York, was used again in the animated series ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''.
8	** The first post-Liefeld ''Captain America'' issue mildly retconned Cap's backstory to reveal that the United States tried defrosting him during both UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar and UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, only to put him back under when their mental conditioning started to buckle. Years later, the revelation that the Winter Soldier, formerly Earth-616 Captain America's sidekick ComicBook/BuckyBarnes, was kept in hibernation by the Soviets until needed made this twist horrifyingly familiar. That said, as noted above, in ''HR''!Steve's case, this was revealed to be lies.
9	** This was also the first time the Scarlet Witch had been portrayed as purely a sorceress and not a mutant, which is how most of the world would eventually know her because of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
10	* SalvagedStory:
11	** ''Heroes Reborn: The Return'', the miniseries that hauled everyone back to Earth-616 once it was clear that ''Heroes Reborn'' was a failure. Before then, the second halves of the ''ComicBook/HeroesRebornCaptainAmerica'' and ''Comicbook/HeroesRebornTheAvengers'' titles, both heavily {{Retool}}ed after Liefeld rejected Marvel's new contract terms and Wildstorm took over production.
12	** {{Berserker}} Thor not being the real Thor.
13	* ShockingMoments: The Galactus storyline was crammed with these. The first issue literally ended with the destruction of the earth, the third issue ''began'' with the the death of the ComicBook/FantasticFour.
14	* WinBackTheCrowd: It may seem weird, but it is the greatest example, even while the comics themselves are reviled by both fans and critics. But pre-Onslaught Marvel Comics was nearing bankruptcy, and the whole "Heroes Reborn" operation saved the company.
15	* TheWoobie: The Swordsman. He charges against Loki... and he tosses him away as if he were nothing. He charges against Kang... and he tosses him away as if he were nothing. He charges against Hulk... [[BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu and goes to the hospital with massive injuries]]. Then Loki turns him into energy, and absorbs him. End of story. Really, why did they bother to put him there to begin with? Just because a guy with a sword could be made to look like an anime character?\

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