History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows

3rd Feb '18 7:36:37 PM Silverblade2
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* ValuesDissonance: The entire Kreacher subplot involves Harry, TheHero, and Hermione, who had taken on Elf-Abolitionism in Book 4, to accept that Kreacher truly does have HappinessInSlavery and that Regulus Black is somehow vindicated for being a ''kind slave master'' as opposed to Sirius who didn't want to own any slaves and disliked being forced into a culture he had spent all his life rebelling. It's related to us by explaining that the House-Elves have BlueAndOrangeMorality which undercuts much of the intended aesops stated elsewhere, and which amounts to more or less normalizing slavery to the extent that Harry ends the series as Kreacher's slaveowner [[spoiler:and the final lines (before the epilogue) has Harry muttering that he'd summon Kreacher to bring him a sandwich, which means that Harry kept Kreacher as a slave even after Voldemort fell]].
6th Jan '18 11:01:58 AM costanton11
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* AwardSnub: Considering that Deathly Hallows Part 2 was not only the highest grossing movie of the year, but the highest grossing installment of the highest grossing franchise, and one of the highest grossing films of all time, in addition to being one of the most critically acclaimed films of the year, would have at least garnered a few token nominations at the Academy Awards, especially since the Academy had made the decision several years earlier to expand the Best Picture field to ten films. But no, just three nominations in the technical department which it lost in all of them (the worst being losing Best Makeup to ''TheIronLady''!) It is also suspicious that before the nomination process began, the Academy again ammended its rules that ''up to'' 10 films could be nominated for Best Picture, if they gathered a certain percentage of votes. Coincidentally, only nine films were nominated, which prompted much outrage from both fans and film critics.[[note]]If you were wondering, these were Warner Bros. submissions to the Academy: Best Picture, Best Director - David Yates, Best Adapted Screenplay - Steven Kloves, Best Actor - Daniel Radcliffe and Rupert Grint, Best Actress - Emma Watson, Best Supporting Actor - Ralphe Fiennes and Alan Rickman, Best Supporting Actress - Helena Bonham Carter and Maggie Smith.[[/note]]

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* AwardSnub: Considering that Deathly Hallows Part 2 was not only the highest grossing movie of the year, but the highest grossing installment of what was then the highest grossing franchise, and one of the highest grossing films of all time, in addition to being one of the most critically acclaimed films of the year, would have at least garnered a few token nominations at the Academy Awards, especially since the Academy had made the decision several years earlier to expand the Best Picture field to ten films. But no, just three nominations in the technical department which it lost in all of them (the worst being losing Best Makeup to ''TheIronLady''!) ''Film/TheIronLady''!) It is also suspicious that before the nomination process began, the Academy again ammended its rules that ''up to'' 10 films could be nominated for Best Picture, if they gathered a certain percentage of votes. Coincidentally, only nine films were nominated, which prompted much outrage from both fans and film critics.[[note]]If you were wondering, these were Warner Bros. submissions to the Academy: Best Picture, Best Director - David Yates, Best Adapted Screenplay - Steven Kloves, Best Actor - Daniel Radcliffe and Rupert Grint, Best Actress - Emma Watson, Best Supporting Actor - Ralphe Fiennes and Alan Rickman, Best Supporting Actress - Helena Bonham Carter and Maggie Smith.[[/note]]
1st Jan '18 11:17:56 PM Spacecoyote
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** Some will certainly view the dance between Harry and Hermione after Ron's departure in the first film as such. Although it serves to illustrate what is never explicitly stated in the film: that Harry and Hermione are like siblings and will never be a romantic couple. Trying to show that with a scene that many (even non-shippers) saw as very romantic, was probably not the best way. Aside from romantic information, the scene serves to show how much shit has hit the fan and that no amount of having fun will lift their spirits and build Harry's confidence to take on his inevitable task.

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** Some will certainly view the dance between Harry and Hermione after Ron's departure in the first film as such. Although it serves aims to illustrate what is never explicitly stated in the film: that film (that Harry and Hermione are like siblings and will never be a romantic couple. Trying couple), trying to show that with a scene that many (even non-shippers) saw as very romantic, was probably not the best way. Aside from romantic information, the scene serves to show how much shit has hit the fan and that no amount of having fun will lift their spirits and build Harry's confidence to take on his inevitable task. Alternatively, it can be interpreted as Harry and Hermione having at least ''some'' degree of attraction towards each other, but opting not to act on it for various reasons.
8th Dec '17 8:12:03 PM creader
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* NightmareFuel: Anytime Nagini appears, you just may accept the fact that she ''will'' [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou lunge at]] [[MouthCam the screen]] when you least expect it, executing a very effective jump scare, especially for ophidiophobes.
** In the movie, during Harry's tussle with Voldemort on the Hogwarts towers. The movie has Harry ride along with Voldermort as he tries to kill him around and through the building! And at one moment, the camera zooms in to show that the two characters' faces have merged! ''shudder''
** This effect brings up more questions - because this "merging" part occurs ''after Harry was already rid of the part of Voldemort which was connecting them''. However, seeing as at the time Nagini was still alive, perhaps what was left of Voldemort's soul was trying to ''reclaim what it lost'' (and failed, because the piece in Harry was gone)...
8th Dec '17 8:11:28 PM creader
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* ThePowerOfLove: Voldemort is universally recognized as the greatest Legilimens in the world, to the point that only the greatest Occlumens in the world (Snape) can resist him, and can ferret out lies without word or wand. Yet Narcissa Malfoy, a competent yet average witch, manages to lie to his face. At that moment, the only thing going through her mind is the love of her family, something Voldemort doesn't understand, doesn't believe in, and has no defense against.

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* ThePowerOfLove: Voldemort is universally recognized as PanderingToTheBase: Allegedly, the greatest Legilimens reason Umbridge was put in the world, book was this - to the point that only the greatest Occlumens in the world (Snape) can resist him, and can ferret out lies without word or wand. Yet Narcissa Malfoy, a competent yet average witch, manages to lie to his face. At that moment, the only thing going through watch her mind is the love of her family, something Voldemort doesn't understand, doesn't believe in, and has no defense against.get mocked even ''more''.



* ShipSinking
** Creator/JKRowling chose to sink the [[spoiler:Harry×Hermione ship]] ''thrice'', the third time of which was in this book. First, in an interview about the possible pairing, Rowling said she didn't think they were suited for each other. Secondly in ''Half-Blood Prince'', and then the internet exploded, with [[spoiler:Harry/Hermione shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness sending out death threats, burning books]], and swearing to abandon the series if she didn't change it. To drive the nail in the coffin, this book has Harry giving the "LikeBrotherAndSister" speech to Ron and Hermione, right after a scene in which Harry/Hermione appears as an evil illusion [[spoiler:made by the locket-Horcrux]] that seems vaguely perverse and is intended entirely to enrage Ron into attacking Harry by using frequent Harmonian arguments, at that. Rowling has mentioned that Harry/Hermione make a better match in some ways than Ron/Hermione but it would never happen because Harry's true love is Ginny and Hermione would be miserable without Ron.
** She also said Neville×Luna wasn't canon. [[spoiler:On the other hand, the movie has Neville tell Harry he has to tell Luna how he feels. AndThereWasMuchRejoicing for the Neville×Luna shippers]]. Which was sunk ''again'' by Matthew Lewis (who plays Neville in the films), when he said the Neville×Luna relationship was ultimately only a "summer fling", and that they did eventually move on to their respective canon pairings. Creator/JKRowling used to reject the ship but has stated that she grew fond of over time and could see it working out, which is why she approved of the aforementioned changes the film made.
8th Dec '17 8:09:10 PM creader
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* NightmareFuel
** [[spoiler:Snape's death]]. Having an orb which contains a giant venomous snake lowered on you, of which the animal inside proceeds to bite you repeatedly while simultaneously injecting you with venom ''in the neck'' is '''NOT''' a nice way to go. '''GAH'''!
** The guardian spell of the [[spoiler:Slytherin locket.]]
** What Ron sees when he [[spoiler:destroys the locket.]] Made even worse when you realize that the locket was probably telling him those exact same things, over and over, in the time before he ran away.
** The scene where [[spoiler: Harry uses the Cruciatus Curse on Amycus Carrow]]. Thankfully, this scene was omitted in the film.
** Nagini using Bathilda Bagshot's hollowed-out corpse as a MeatPuppet. Harry even decided to spare Hermione the details of Nagini's arrival.
** Another scene that was ultimately cut from the film was [[spoiler: Peter Pettigrew]] being forced to strangle himself to death, rumor has it because the censors considered it so messed up they would've given the film an R rating otherwise. Unfortunately, this turned that villain into a KarmaHoudini as no alternate death was written for him.



* TastesLikeDiabetes: The epilogue to some. All it was missing was "And Harry lived HappilyEverAfter."

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The epilogue to some. All it was missing was "And Harry lived HappilyEverAfter."



* TearJerker:
** Snape casting his Patronus.
** The use of ''Leaving Hogwarts'' in the epilogue.



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* HilariousInHindsight: The "NYEAH!!" scream of Voldemort that become famous thanks to the ''Part II'' trailer was actually heard once in ''Part 1'', right after Harry's wand overpowers him in the aerial battle.

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The "NYEAH!!" scream of Voldemort that become famous thanks to the ''Part II'' trailer was actually heard once in ''Part 1'', right after Harry's wand overpowers him in the aerial battle.



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* {{Narm}}: After he [[spoiler:(seemingly) kills Harry]] during the climax of the second film, Voldemort approaches the school's defenders and offers them the chance to join the ranks of the Death Eaters. Draco, after hesitating, steps forward to join his parents, and ''is hugged by Voldemort'' on the way. Needless to say several theater houses were in stitches during that bit. This was probably intentional, considering Draco reacts like he's being hugged by, well, Voldemort (and is only doing it so he can leave with his parents) and Voldemort is pointing the Elder Wand at the other students the entire time

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After he [[spoiler:(seemingly) kills Harry]] during the climax of the second film, Voldemort approaches the school's defenders and offers them the chance to join the ranks of the Death Eaters. Draco, after hesitating, steps forward to join his parents, and ''is hugged by Voldemort'' on the way. Needless to say several theater houses were in stitches during that bit. This was probably intentional, considering Draco reacts like he's being hugged by, well, Voldemort (and is only doing it so he can leave with his parents) and Voldemort is pointing the Elder Wand at the other students the entire time



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* TearJerker: See [[TearJerker/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows this page]].
8th Dec '17 8:07:05 PM creader
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* HilariousInHindsight: Harry says, "[[WebVideo/BenDrowned You shouldn't have done that.]]" as a PreAsskickingOneLiner to Amycus Carrow after he spat at [=McGonagall=].

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Harry says, "[[WebVideo/BenDrowned You shouldn't have done that.]]" as a PreAsskickingOneLiner to Amycus Carrow after he spat at [=McGonagall=].



* JerkassHasAPoint: Muriel Weasley mentions in ''Death Hallows'' that squibs were encouraged to settle down in Muggle's world, and views it as blessing for them, because they would live as lower class in Wizard's world. It's indeed true - just remember [[JerkassWoobie Argus Filch]]... though he himself chose such a fate. And Arabella Figg seems to be quite happy to live in Muggle's world.



* MagnificentBastard: Once you've come this far in the series, it's settled. This title doesn't belong to Voldemort, it goes to none other than '''Albus Dumbledore himself'''. Directly and indirectly, intentionally and otherwise, this one man, has been responsible for everything, '''everything''', that has driven the history of the Potterverse from his time and beyond, fitting every characteristic trope almost all the time.



* MemeticMutation
** [[spoiler:"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!!!!"]], which made Molly Weasley ascend to badass status.
* MagnificentBastard: Once you've come this far in the series, it's settled. This title doesn't belong to Voldemort, it goes to none other than '''Albus Dumbledore himself'''. Directly and indirectly, intentionally and otherwise, this one man, has been responsible for everything, '''everything''', that has driven the history of the Potterverse from his time and beyond, fitting every characteristic trope almost all the time.

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MemeticMutation: [[spoiler:"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!!!!"]], which made Molly Weasley ascend to badass status.
* MagnificentBastard: Once you've come this far in the series, it's settled. This title doesn't belong to Voldemort, it goes to none other than '''Albus Dumbledore himself'''. Directly and indirectly, intentionally and otherwise, this one man, has been responsible for everything, '''everything''', that has driven the history of the Potterverse from his time and beyond, fitting every characteristic trope almost all the time.
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* {{Narm}}: In the book, Harry suggesting Voldemort try for some remorse. You can almost feel Harry thinking "this sounds really stupid, but I've gotta give him the chance."

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In the book, Harry suggesting Voldemort try for some remorse. You can almost feel Harry thinking "this sounds really stupid, but I've gotta give him the chance."
26th Nov '17 10:22:16 PM JulianLapostat
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* ValuesDissonance: The entire Kreacher subplot involves Harry, TheHero, and Hermione, who had taken on Elf-Abolitionism in Book 4, to accept that Kreacher truly does have HappinessInSlavery and that Regulus Black is somehow vindicated for being a ''kind slave master'' as opposed to Sirius who didn't want to own any slaves and disliked being forced into a culture he had spent all his life rebelling. It's related to us by explaining that the House-Elves have BlueAndOrangeMorality which undercuts much of the intended aesops stated elsewhere, and which amounts to more or less normalizing slavery to the extent that Harry ends the series as Kreacher's slaveowner [[spoiler:and the final lines (before the epilogue) has Harry muttering that he'd summon Kreacher to bring him a sandwich, which means that Harry kept Kreacher as a slave even after Voldemort fell]].


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* ValuesDissonance: The entire Kreacher subplot involves Harry, TheHero, and Hermione, who had taken on Elf-Abolitionism in Book 4, to accept that Kreacher truly does have HappinessInSlavery and that Regulus Black is somehow vindicated for being a ''kind slave master'' as opposed to Sirius who didn't want to own any slaves and disliked being forced into a culture he had spent all his life rebelling. It's related to us by explaining that the House-Elves have BlueAndOrangeMorality which undercuts much of the intended aesops stated elsewhere, and which amounts to more or less normalizing slavery to the extent that Harry ends the series as Kreacher's slaveowner [[spoiler:and the final lines (before the epilogue) has Harry muttering that he'd summon Kreacher to bring him a sandwich, which means that Harry kept Kreacher as a slave even after Voldemort fell]].
26th Nov '17 5:47:07 PM JulianLapostat
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* ValuesDissonance: The entire Kreacher subplot involves Harry, TheHero, and Hermione, who had taken on Elf-Abolitionism in Book 4, to accept that Kreacher truly does have HappinessInSlavery and that Regulus Black is somehow vindicated for being a ''kind slave master'' as opposed to Sirius who didn't want to own any slaves and disliked being forced into a culture he had spent all his life rebelling. It's related to us by explaining that the House-Elves have BlueAndOrangeMorality which undercuts much of the intended aesops stated elsewhere, and which amounts to more or less normalizing slavery to the extent that Harry ends the series as Kreacher's slaveowner [[spoiler:and the final lines (before the epilogue) has Harry muttering that he'd summon Kreacher to bring him a sandwich, which means that Harry kept Kreacher as a slave even after Voldemort fell]].
7th Nov '17 10:49:48 AM JulianLapostat
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* DesignatedHero: [[spoiler:Snape in the scene where he tears off the photograph of Lily, James and Harry and keeps a part of Lily's message for himself. The way the scene is written indicates his great grief for Lily and his love for her, but his actions amount to posthumously disrespecting Lily's consent and her choices (which as Dumbledore insists is what defines us), namely taking her away from her happy marriage, and ignoring the fact that the letter with "Lots of Love" was addressed to Sirius and not him, and it's way too reminiscent of a StalkerWithACrush who steals stuff to build a StalkerShrine than sincere grief]].
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