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* BrokenBase: "Don't Dimension It" focusing on Mabel's actions that lead to Weirdmageddon has split fans. A good portion of the fanbase was very happy with the comic and argue that it was a nice addition to canon, while others think it didn't do enough to redeem Mabel's actions or address her flaws as a character.
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* BrokenBase: "Don't Dimension It" focusing on Mabel's actions that lead to Weirdmageddon has split fans. A good portion of the fanbase was very happy Shares a [[BrokenBase/GravityFalls page with the comic and argue that it was a nice addition to canon, while others think it didn't do enough to redeem Mabel's actions or address her flaws as a character.rest of the franchise]].
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* BrokenBase: Was "Don't Dimension It" enough focus and attention to [[BaseBreakingCharacter save Mabel's character]]?
** A good portion of the fanbase was very happy with the comic and argue that it was a nice addition to canon and great to see Mabel facing her flaws and their consequences, taking accountability, apologizing for the effects they've had on others, and beginning to take steps to correct for them, and that this was a sign of slow but definite maturation from the flaws that had riddled her throughout the series.
** Others argue that the comic is basically an admission of how badly Mabel's character was handled in the actual show and a continuation of that poor handling, claiming that the premise of the comic fails to add sincerity to Mabel's promises and character conclusion because it actually seems to accidentally confirm the accusations of Weirdmageddon's worst critics: Mabel ''didn't'' learn her lessons in the actual show proper, because if she had, she wouldn't have needed to re-learn the same lessons [[AesopAmnesia for the nth time]] after it ended, so why should the audience believe she's learned ''this'' time? These fans instead seem to generally argue that Mabel's arc would have been stronger if Mabel's comic had functioned on the premise that she ''did'' learn from Weirdmageddon and focused on her efforts to be better, rather than her re-learning what she was already supposed to have learned.
** A similarly critical but different-minded group to the above feel the comic brushed aside the biggest issue with Mabel and Weirdmageddon. Many of the criticism against Mabel ''weren't about'' her liking the spotlight--some even argued that Mabel should have been given more attention and better-quality writing, not less--nor were they merely about the fact that no one in the show found out about Mabel's selfish deal with "Blendin Blandin." The criticisms of Mabel's character are more often about how the writing of the show bends over backwards to avoid giving Mabel the same kinds of serious consequences it gives Dipper for similar mistakes and how, when paired with Mabel often being used to instigate others' conflicts and [[AesopAmnesia refusing to learn from her own]], this makes her scenes frustrating for them to watch. While selfishness and AesopAmnesia can be compelling character flaws when well-written, the writers, in this view, continuously had the other characters and the world of the show in general accept Mabel's behavior completely with no expectations for her to try and behave better and little to no consequences when she didn't, thus giving Mabel seemingly no reason to actually be better. Dipper was constantly held to behavioral standards that Mabel wasn't, both by the rest of the cast and by the writers. Weirdmageddon, for these critics, is the apotheosis of this flaw, with Mabel ignoring all previous lessons and walking out of the situation having both [[AllTakeAndNoGive made Dipper do all the work for her own character resolution]] and objectively benefitted from the suffering she put him through, with the "Mabel's Fault" joke as her only consequence. Many after the finale's release, far from being convinced Mabel had grown as a person, expressed concern that the outcome actually ''incentivized'' Mabel to continue being selfish and emotionally manipulative since it got her what she wanted with no negative consequences for herself. Those who hold this opinion share many ideas with those detailed above but disagree on what should have been done, believing the repeat lesson was ''very'' necessary but that it didn't address enough of the series' writing issues regarding what they perceive as Mabel's special treatment to save their opinion of Mabel's character.
*** The two above groups have also floated the idea that the structure of the story does more work to convince the reader of Mabel's "goodness" than Mabel's own actions do, such as downplaying the conceptual horror of Mabel's actual deal with "Blendin Blandin" by retroactively specifying she only wanted a day (and ignoring how much of an autonomy and control violation that is against her brother and the town) and making all the alternates of Mabel even more flawed by comparison (with her opposite being the "evilest" Mabel) in order to narratively position Mabel Prime as the most good one. Despite seemingly trying to demonstrate Mabel's development, all Mabel actually does in terms of this development is repeat a mistake she supposedly already developed out of, manage to focus on saving herself, give her brother a book as a present, and make promises about being better, but she's done that before and rarely lives up to them. Since the comic does more telling than showing when it comes to Mabel's growth and seems, intentionally or not, structured to subliminally position her as better while actually undermining the growth she allegedly gained in Weirdmageddon, cynical critics have actually accused this of feeling a bit unintentionally manipulative, as if the comic was more focused on convincing critical fans to like Mabel again than on addressing the actual problems with her character.
** A third group just seem flat-out annoyed at the comic, interpreting it and its plot as implying that the character development of Mabel Pines, the second protagonist of the series, was so unimportant in the show compared to Dipper's that no one made time for the actual peak of her character arc in the show proper and it was instead tagged on to the franchise in a post-series comic.
** A good portion of the fanbase was very happy with the comic and argue that it was a nice addition to canon and great to see Mabel facing her flaws and their consequences, taking accountability, apologizing for the effects they've had on others, and beginning to take steps to correct for them, and that this was a sign of slow but definite maturation from the flaws that had riddled her throughout the series.
** Others argue that the comic is basically an admission of how badly Mabel's character was handled in the actual show and a continuation of that poor handling, claiming that the premise of the comic fails to add sincerity to Mabel's promises and character conclusion because it actually seems to accidentally confirm the accusations of Weirdmageddon's worst critics: Mabel ''didn't'' learn her lessons in the actual show proper, because if she had, she wouldn't have needed to re-learn the same lessons [[AesopAmnesia for the nth time]] after it ended, so why should the audience believe she's learned ''this'' time? These fans instead seem to generally argue that Mabel's arc would have been stronger if Mabel's comic had functioned on the premise that she ''did'' learn from Weirdmageddon and focused on her efforts to be better, rather than her re-learning what she was already supposed to have learned.
** A similarly critical but different-minded group to the above feel the comic brushed aside the biggest issue with Mabel and Weirdmageddon. Many of the criticism against Mabel ''weren't about'' her liking the spotlight--some even argued that Mabel should have been given more attention and better-quality writing, not less--nor were they merely about the fact that no one in the show found out about Mabel's selfish deal with "Blendin Blandin." The criticisms of Mabel's character are more often about how the writing of the show bends over backwards to avoid giving Mabel the same kinds of serious consequences it gives Dipper for similar mistakes and how, when paired with Mabel often being used to instigate others' conflicts and [[AesopAmnesia refusing to learn from her own]], this makes her scenes frustrating for them to watch. While selfishness and AesopAmnesia can be compelling character flaws when well-written, the writers, in this view, continuously had the other characters and the world of the show in general accept Mabel's behavior completely with no expectations for her to try and behave better and little to no consequences when she didn't, thus giving Mabel seemingly no reason to actually be better. Dipper was constantly held to behavioral standards that Mabel wasn't, both by the rest of the cast and by the writers. Weirdmageddon, for these critics, is the apotheosis of this flaw, with Mabel ignoring all previous lessons and walking out of the situation having both [[AllTakeAndNoGive made Dipper do all the work for her own character resolution]] and objectively benefitted from the suffering she put him through, with the "Mabel's Fault" joke as her only consequence. Many after the finale's release, far from being convinced Mabel had grown as a person, expressed concern that the outcome actually ''incentivized'' Mabel to continue being selfish and emotionally manipulative since it got her what she wanted with no negative consequences for herself. Those who hold this opinion share many ideas with those detailed above but disagree on what should have been done, believing the repeat lesson was ''very'' necessary but that it didn't address enough of the series' writing issues regarding what they perceive as Mabel's special treatment to save their opinion of Mabel's character.
*** The two above groups have also floated the idea that the structure of the story does more work to convince the reader of Mabel's "goodness" than Mabel's own actions do, such as downplaying the conceptual horror of Mabel's actual deal with "Blendin Blandin" by retroactively specifying she only wanted a day (and ignoring how much of an autonomy and control violation that is against her brother and the town) and making all the alternates of Mabel even more flawed by comparison (with her opposite being the "evilest" Mabel) in order to narratively position Mabel Prime as the most good one. Despite seemingly trying to demonstrate Mabel's development, all Mabel actually does in terms of this development is repeat a mistake she supposedly already developed out of, manage to focus on saving herself, give her brother a book as a present, and make promises about being better, but she's done that before and rarely lives up to them. Since the comic does more telling than showing when it comes to Mabel's growth and seems, intentionally or not, structured to subliminally position her as better while actually undermining the growth she allegedly gained in Weirdmageddon, cynical critics have actually accused this of feeling a bit unintentionally manipulative, as if the comic was more focused on convincing critical fans to like Mabel again than on addressing the actual problems with her character.
** A third group just seem flat-out annoyed at the comic, interpreting it and its plot as implying that the character development of Mabel Pines, the second protagonist of the series, was so unimportant in the show compared to Dipper's that no one made time for the actual peak of her character arc in the show proper and it was instead tagged on to the franchise in a post-series comic.
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* BrokenBase: Was "Don't Dimension It" enough focus and attention to [[BaseBreakingCharacter save focusing on Mabel's character]]?
**actions that lead to Weirdmageddon has split fans. A good portion of the fanbase was very happy with the comic and argue that it was a nice addition to canon and great to see Mabel facing her flaws and their consequences, taking accountability, apologizing for the effects they've had on others, and beginning to take steps to correct for them, and that this was a sign of slow but definite maturation from the flaws that had riddled her throughout the series.
** Others argue that the comic is basically an admission of how badly Mabel's character was handled in the actual show and a continuation of that poor handling, claiming that the premise of the comic fails to add sincerity to Mabel's promises and character conclusion because it actually seems to accidentally confirm the accusations of Weirdmageddon's worst critics: Mabel ''didn't'' learn her lessons in the actual show proper, because if she had, she wouldn't have needed to re-learn the same lessons [[AesopAmnesia for the nth time]] after it ended, so why should the audience believe she's learned ''this'' time? These fans instead seem to generally argue that Mabel's arc would have been stronger if Mabel's comic had functioned on the premise that she ''did'' learn from Weirdmageddon and focused on her efforts to be better, rather than her re-learning what she was already supposed to have learned.
** A similarly critical but different-minded group to the above feel the comic brushed aside the biggest issue with Mabel and Weirdmageddon. Many of the criticism against Mabel ''weren't about'' her liking the spotlight--some even argued that Mabel should have been given more attention and better-quality writing, not less--nor were they merely about the fact that no one in the show found out about Mabel's selfish deal with "Blendin Blandin." The criticisms of Mabel's character are more often about how the writing of the show bends over backwards to avoid giving Mabel the same kinds of serious consequences it gives Dipper for similar mistakes and how, when paired with Mabel often being used to instigate others' conflicts and [[AesopAmnesia refusing to learn from her own]], this makes her scenes frustrating for them to watch. While selfishness and AesopAmnesia can be compelling character flaws when well-written, the writers, in this view, continuously had the other characters and the world of the show in general accept Mabel's behavior completely with no expectations for her to try and behave better and little to no consequences when she didn't, thus giving Mabel seemingly no reason to actually be better. Dipper was constantly held to behavioral standards that Mabel wasn't, both by the rest of the cast and by the writers. Weirdmageddon, for these critics, is the apotheosis of this flaw, with Mabel ignoring all previous lessons and walking out of the situation having both [[AllTakeAndNoGive made Dipper do all the work for her own character resolution]] and objectively benefitted from the suffering she put him through, with the "Mabel's Fault" joke as her only consequence. Many after the finale's release, far from being convinced Mabel had grown as a person, expressed concern that the outcome actually ''incentivized'' Mabel to continue being selfish and emotionally manipulative since it got her what she wanted with no negative consequences for herself. Those who hold this opinion share many ideas with those detailed above but disagree on what should have been done, believing the repeat lesson was ''very'' necessary but thatcanon, while others think it didn't address do enough of the series' writing issues regarding what they perceive as to redeem Mabel's special treatment to save their opinion of Mabel's character.
*** The two above groups have also floated the idea that the structure of the story does more work to convince the reader of Mabel's "goodness" than Mabel's ownactions do, such as downplaying the conceptual horror of Mabel's actual deal with "Blendin Blandin" by retroactively specifying she only wanted a day (and ignoring how much of an autonomy and control violation that is against or address her brother and the town) and making all the alternates of Mabel even more flawed by comparison (with her opposite being the "evilest" Mabel) in order to narratively position Mabel Prime as the most good one. Despite seemingly trying to demonstrate Mabel's development, all Mabel actually does in terms of this development is repeat a mistake she supposedly already developed out of, manage to focus on saving herself, give her brother a book flaws as a present, and make promises about being better, but she's done that before and rarely lives up to them. Since the comic does more telling than showing when it comes to Mabel's growth and seems, intentionally or not, structured to subliminally position her as better while actually undermining the growth she allegedly gained in Weirdmageddon, cynical critics have actually accused this of feeling a bit unintentionally manipulative, as if the comic was more focused on convincing critical fans to like Mabel again than on addressing the actual problems with her character.
** A third group just seem flat-out annoyed at the comic, interpreting it and its plot as implying that the character development of Mabel Pines, the second protagonist of the series, was so unimportant in the show compared to Dipper's that no one made time for the actual peak of her character arc in the show proper and it was instead tagged on to the franchise in a post-series comic.character.
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** Others argue that the comic is basically an admission of how badly Mabel's character was handled in the actual show and a continuation of that poor handling, claiming that the premise of the comic fails to add sincerity to Mabel's promises and character conclusion because it actually seems to accidentally confirm the accusations of Weirdmageddon's worst critics: Mabel ''didn't'' learn her lessons in the actual show proper, because if she had, she wouldn't have needed to re-learn the same lessons [[AesopAmnesia for the nth time]] after it ended, so why should the audience believe she's learned ''this'' time? These fans instead seem to generally argue that Mabel's arc would have been stronger if Mabel's comic had functioned on the premise that she ''did'' learn from Weirdmageddon and focused on her efforts to be better, rather than her re-learning what she was already supposed to have learned.
** A similarly critical but different-minded group to the above feel the comic brushed aside the biggest issue with Mabel and Weirdmageddon. Many of the criticism against Mabel ''weren't about'' her liking the spotlight--some even argued that Mabel should have been given more attention and better-quality writing, not less--nor were they merely about the fact that no one in the show found out about Mabel's selfish deal with "Blendin Blandin." The criticisms of Mabel's character are more often about how the writing of the show bends over backwards to avoid giving Mabel the same kinds of serious consequences it gives Dipper for similar mistakes and how, when paired with Mabel often being used to instigate others' conflicts and [[AesopAmnesia refusing to learn from her own]], this makes her scenes frustrating for them to watch. While selfishness and AesopAmnesia can be compelling character flaws when well-written, the writers, in this view, continuously had the other characters and the world of the show in general accept Mabel's behavior completely with no expectations for her to try and behave better and little to no consequences when she didn't, thus giving Mabel seemingly no reason to actually be better. Dipper was constantly held to behavioral standards that Mabel wasn't, both by the rest of the cast and by the writers. Weirdmageddon, for these critics, is the apotheosis of this flaw, with Mabel ignoring all previous lessons and walking out of the situation having both [[AllTakeAndNoGive made Dipper do all the work for her own character resolution]] and objectively benefitted from the suffering she put him through, with the "Mabel's Fault" joke as her only consequence. Many after the finale's release, far from being convinced Mabel had grown as a person, expressed concern that the outcome actually ''incentivized'' Mabel to continue being selfish and emotionally manipulative since it got her what she wanted with no negative consequences for herself. Those who hold this opinion share many ideas with those detailed above but disagree on what should have been done, believing the repeat lesson was ''very'' necessary but that
*** The two above groups have also floated the idea that the structure of the story does more work to convince the reader of Mabel's "goodness" than Mabel's own
** A third group just seem flat-out annoyed at the comic, interpreting it and its plot as implying that the character development of Mabel Pines, the second protagonist of the series, was so unimportant in the show compared to Dipper's that no one made time for the actual peak of her character arc in the show proper and it was instead tagged on to the franchise in a post-series comic.
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** There are also a good number of people who consider the 'Mabel's Fault' joke as being [[KarmicOverkill extremely cruel]] and out-of-character for Dipper.
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** There are also a good number of people who consider the 'Mabel's Fault' joke as being extremely cruel and out-of-character for Dipper.
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** A similarly critical but different-minded group to the above feel the comic brushed aside the biggest issue with Mabel and Weirdmageddon: Mabel's status as a KarmaHoudini. Many of the criticism against Mabel ''weren't about'' her liking the spotlight--some even argued that Mabel should have been given more attention and better-quality writing, not less--nor were they merely about the fact that no one in the show found out about Mabel's selfish deal with "Blendin Blandin." The criticisms of Mabel's character are more often about how the writing of the show bends over backwards to avoid giving Mabel the same kinds of serious consequences it gives Dipper for similar mistakes and how, when paired with Mabel often being used to instigate others' conflicts and [[AesopAmnesia refusing to learn from her own]], this makes her scenes frustrating for them to watch. While selfishness and AesopAmnesia can be compelling character flaws when well-written, the writers, in this view, continuously had the other characters and the world of the show in general accept Mabel's behavior completely with no expectations for her to try and behave better and little to no consequences when she didn't, thus giving Mabel seemingly no reason to actually be better. Dipper was constantly held to behavioral standards that Mabel wasn't, both by the rest of the cast and by the writers. Weirdmageddon, for these critics, is the apotheosis of this flaw, with Mabel ignoring all previous lessons and walking out of the situation having both [[AllTakeAndNoGive made Dipper do all the work for her own character resolution]] and objectively benefitted from the suffering she put him through, with the "Mabel's Fault" joke as her only consequence. Many after the finale's release, far from being convinced Mabel had grown as a person, expressed concern that the outcome actually ''incentivized'' Mabel to continue being selfish and emotionally manipulative since it got her what she wanted with no negative consequences for herself. Those who hold this opinion share many ideas with those detailed above but disagree on what should have been done, believing the repeat lesson was ''very'' necessary but that it didn't address enough of the series' writing issues regarding what they perceive as Mabel's special treatment to save their opinion of Mabel's character.
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** A similarly critical but different-minded group to the above feel the comic brushed aside the biggest issue with Mabel and Weirdmageddon: Mabel's status as a KarmaHoudini.Weirdmageddon. Many of the criticism against Mabel ''weren't about'' her liking the spotlight--some even argued that Mabel should have been given more attention and better-quality writing, not less--nor were they merely about the fact that no one in the show found out about Mabel's selfish deal with "Blendin Blandin." The criticisms of Mabel's character are more often about how the writing of the show bends over backwards to avoid giving Mabel the same kinds of serious consequences it gives Dipper for similar mistakes and how, when paired with Mabel often being used to instigate others' conflicts and [[AesopAmnesia refusing to learn from her own]], this makes her scenes frustrating for them to watch. While selfishness and AesopAmnesia can be compelling character flaws when well-written, the writers, in this view, continuously had the other characters and the world of the show in general accept Mabel's behavior completely with no expectations for her to try and behave better and little to no consequences when she didn't, thus giving Mabel seemingly no reason to actually be better. Dipper was constantly held to behavioral standards that Mabel wasn't, both by the rest of the cast and by the writers. Weirdmageddon, for these critics, is the apotheosis of this flaw, with Mabel ignoring all previous lessons and walking out of the situation having both [[AllTakeAndNoGive made Dipper do all the work for her own character resolution]] and objectively benefitted from the suffering she put him through, with the "Mabel's Fault" joke as her only consequence. Many after the finale's release, far from being convinced Mabel had grown as a person, expressed concern that the outcome actually ''incentivized'' Mabel to continue being selfish and emotionally manipulative since it got her what she wanted with no negative consequences for herself. Those who hold this opinion share many ideas with those detailed above but disagree on what should have been done, believing the repeat lesson was ''very'' necessary but that it didn't address enough of the series' writing issues regarding what they perceive as Mabel's special treatment to save their opinion of Mabel's character.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: [[LateArrivalSpoiler It's been long since established]] [[AbusiveParents how much of a horrible, greedy father]] Filbrick Pines [[EvilAllAlong really was]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking but it's revealed some of his other misdeeds include]] having an old job [[{{Bowdlerize}} as a comic book censor]] [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets who gets paid to ruin jokes]], being too cheap to afford saltwater taffy, [[ShoddyKnockoffProduct buying regular-water taffy instead]], and enjoying cowboy movies where everyone dies. [[LikeFatherLikeSon Looks like Stan isn't the only family member]] [[NoodleIncident with a history of doing much more bizarre crimes]].
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: [[LateArrivalSpoiler It's been long since established]] [[AbusiveParents how much of a horrible, greedy father]] Filbrick Pines [[EvilAllAlong really was]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking but it's revealed some of his other misdeeds include]] having an old job [[{{Bowdlerize}} as a comic book censor]] [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets who gets paid to ruin jokes]], jokes, being too cheap to afford saltwater taffy, [[ShoddyKnockoffProduct buying regular-water taffy instead]], and enjoying cowboy movies where everyone dies. [[LikeFatherLikeSon Looks like Stan isn't the only family member]] [[NoodleIncident with a history of doing much more bizarre crimes]].
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The ending panel of "The Jersey Devil's In The Details" is a very beautifully drawn shot of Ford and Stan on their boat together.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: [[LateArrivalSpoiler It's been long since established]] [[AbusiveParents how much of a horrible, greedy father]] Filbrick Pines [[EvilAllAlong really was]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking but it's revealed some of his other misdeeds include]] having an old job [[{{Bowdlerize}} as a comic book censor]] [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets who gets paid to ruin jokes]], being too cheap to afford saltwater taffy, [[ShoddyKnockoffProduct buying regular-water taffy instead]], and enjoying cowboy movies where everyone dies. [[LikeFatherLikeSon Looks like Stan isn't the only family member]] [[NoodleIncident with a history of doing much more bizarre crimes]].
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: [[LateArrivalSpoiler It's been long since established]] [[AbusiveParents how much of a horrible, greedy father]] Filbrick Pines [[EvilAllAlong really was]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking but it's revealed some of his other misdeeds include]] having an old job [[{{Bowdlerize}} as comic book censor]] [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets who gets paid to ruin jokes]], being too cheap to afford saltwater taffy, [[ShoddyKnockoffProduct buying regular-water taffy instead]], and enjoying cowboy movies [[KillEmAll where everyone dies]].dies. [[LikeFatherLikeSon Looks like Stan isn't the only family member]] [[NoodleIncident with a history of doing much more bizarre crimes]].
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** Considering that we didn't see much of Pacifica post-HeelFaceTurn until the Weirdmageddon Trilogy, it was nice to see her get ADayInTheLimelight in "Face It".
** For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
-->'''Mabel''': Heck, I caused an entire apocalypse just to get one more day of summer!
** On a smaller note, it's satisfying for many fans to see the President's Key finally get some use after its debut.
** Also, the alien adhesive from "Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future" finally gets used in "Don't Dimension It".
* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The ending panel of "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details" is a very beautifully drawn shot of Ford and Stan on their boat together.
** Considering that we didn't see much of Pacifica post-HeelFaceTurn until the Weirdmageddon Trilogy, it was nice to see her get ADayInTheLimelight in "Face It".
** For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
-->'''Mabel''': Heck, I caused an entire apocalypse just to get one more day of summer!
** On a smaller note, it's satisfying for many fans to see the President's Key finally get some use after its debut.
** Also, the alien adhesive from "Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future" finally gets used in "Don't Dimension It".
* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The ending panel of "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details" is a very beautifully drawn shot of Ford and Stan on their boat together.
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** Considering that we didn't see much of Pacifica post-HeelFaceTurn until the Weirdmageddon Trilogy, it was nice to see her get ADayInTheLimelight in "Face It".
** For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
-->'''Mabel''': Heck, I caused an entire apocalypse just to get one more day of summer!
** On a smaller note, it's satisfying for many fans to see the President's Key finally get some use after its debut.
** Also, the alien adhesive from "Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future" finally gets used in "Don't Dimension It".
* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The ending panel of "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details" is a very beautifully drawn shot of Ford and Stan on their boat together.
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** Considering that we didn't see much of Pacifica post-HeelFaceTurn until the Weirdmageddon Trilogy, it was nice to see her get ADayInTheLimelight in "Face It".
** For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
-->'''Mabel''': Heck, I caused an entire apocalypse just to get one more day of summer!
** On a smaller note, it's satisfying for many fans to see the President's Key finally get some use after its debut.
** Also, the alien adhesive from "Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future" finally gets used in "Don't Dimension It".
* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The ending panel of "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details" is a very beautifully drawn shot of Ford and Stan on their boat together.
** Considering that we didn't see much of Pacifica post-HeelFaceTurn until the Weirdmageddon Trilogy, it was nice to see her get ADayInTheLimelight in "Face It".
** For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
-->'''Mabel''': Heck, I caused an entire apocalypse just to get one more day of summer!
** On a smaller note, it's satisfying for many fans to see the President's Key finally get some use after its debut.
** Also, the alien adhesive from "Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future" finally gets used in "Don't Dimension It".
* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The ending panel of "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details" is a very beautifully drawn shot of Ford and Stan on their boat together.
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** In "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details", there is some implication that Filbrick is closer to ParentsAsPeople than an AbusiveParent, but the expansion is limited.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: "Don't Dimension It" hints that Mabel confessed to her family her role in causing Weirdmaggedon offscreen. We never learn their reaction to this beyond Dipper naming one of the remaining rifts caused by the event "Mabel's Fault".
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: "Don't Dimension It" hints that Mabel confessed to her family her role in causing Weirdmaggedon offscreen. We never learn their reaction to this beyond Dipper naming one of the remaining rifts caused by the event "Mabel's Fault".
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** In "The Jersey Devil’s Devil's In The Details", there is some implication that Filbrick is closer to ParentsAsPeople than an AbusiveParent, but the expansion is limited.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: "Don't Dimension It" hints that Mabel confessed to her family her role in causingWeirdmaggedon Weirdmageddon offscreen. We never learn their reaction to this beyond Dipper naming one of the remaining rifts caused by the event "Mabel's Fault".
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: "Don't Dimension It" hints that Mabel confessed to her family her role in causing
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: When Dipper placed the "Mabel's Fault" sign next to the giant crack caused by the dimensional rift, did he put it there to remind Mabel of the consequences of her impulsiveness? Or was it to reinforce the idea that it was definitely Mabel's Fault and [[NeverMyFault draw attention away from his withholding information about the Rift from her in the first place]]? The diverging interpretations hinge on whether the reader thinks Mabel was entitled to know about the Rift, whether they consider Dipper wrong for not telling her, and whether the reader believes [[BigBrotherInstinct Dipper]] would throw his sister under the bus to cover his tracks if he did think he himself was to blame. Complicating the debate over who was at fault for Mabel's ignorant mistake--and thus, the intentions behind the sign--is the fact that the disaster would also have been avoided had Mabel simply not been willing to trade her brother's possessions away for her own benefit ''and'' the fact that Mabel's confession occured offscreen, so we don't know how the characters themselves actually allocated responsibility for the disaster outside of that sign, which, given the characters don't treat Mabel that differently, may have been a joke. For all we know, Ford could have accepted blame for his decision not to tell Mabel or Dipper could have blamed himself but Mabel disagreed and convinced him otherwise. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot We didn't get to see the moment, so we don't know.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: When Dipper placed the "Mabel's Fault" sign next to the giant crack caused by the dimensional rift, did he put it there to remind Mabel of the consequences of her impulsiveness? Or was it to reinforce the idea that it was definitely Mabel's Fault fault and [[NeverMyFault draw attention away from his withholding information about the Rift rift from her in the first place]]? The diverging interpretations hinge on whether the reader thinks Mabel was entitled to know about the Rift, rift, whether they consider Dipper wrong for not telling her, and whether the reader believes [[BigBrotherInstinct Dipper]] would throw his sister under the bus to cover his tracks if he did think he himself was to blame. Complicating the debate over who was at fault for Mabel's ignorant mistake--and thus, the intentions behind the sign--is the fact that the disaster would also have been avoided had Mabel simply not been willing to trade her brother's possessions away for her own benefit ''and'' the fact that Mabel's confession occured offscreen, so we don't know how the characters themselves actually allocated responsibility for the disaster outside of that sign, which, given the characters don't treat Mabel that differently, may have been a joke. For all we know, Ford could have accepted blame for his decision not to tell Mabel or Dipper could have blamed himself but Mabel disagreed and convinced him otherwise. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot We didn't get to see the moment, so we don't know.]]
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* CantUnhearIt: It's easy to imagine hearing the character's voices when reading each chapter. Especially imagining hearing [[Creator/KristenSchaal Kristan Schaal's]] voice doing all of the alternate Mabels in the multiverse.
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* CantUnhearIt: CantUnHearIt: It's easy to imagine hearing the character's voices when reading each chapter. Especially imagining hearing [[Creator/KristenSchaal Kristan Schaal's]] voice doing all of the alternate Mabels in the multiverse.
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** "Don’t Dimension It!" is full of possibilities for the alternate Mabels and the worlds they come from.
** "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details" expands more on Glass Shard Beach, giving potential for more stories about Stan and Ford’s childhood.
** "The Jersey Devil’s In The Details" expands more on Glass Shard Beach, giving potential for more stories about Stan and Ford’s childhood.
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** "Don’t "Don't Dimension It!" is full of possibilities for the alternate Mabels and the worlds they come from.
** "The JerseyDevil’s Devil's In The Details" expands more on Glass Shard Beach, giving potential for more stories about Stan and Ford’s childhood.
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** Another cryptogram reveals the implication that Wendy’s MissingMom might be [[spoiler: trapped in another dimension, like what happened to Ford.]] It flat-out confirmed she had her memories erased at least once. But ''how?'' And why?
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** Another cryptogram reveals the implication that Wendy’s Wendy's MissingMom might be [[spoiler: trapped in another dimension, like what happened to Ford.]] Ford]]. It flat-out confirmed she had her memories erased at least once. But ''how?'' And why?
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* FanficFuel: "Don’t Dimension It!" is full of possibilities for the alternate Mabels and the worlds they come from.
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* FanficFuel: FanficFuel:
** "Don’t Dimension It!" is full of possibilities for the alternate Mabels and the worlds they come from.
** "Don’t Dimension It!" is full of possibilities for the alternate Mabels and the worlds they come from.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Anti-Mabel will be the closest fans will ever get to a [[Fanfic/ReverseFallsAU Reverse Mabel]] in the Gravity Falls canon. Especially when described as the most "evil" Mabel in the universe.
** Also, Pacifica's phone receiving service from "[[BlandNameProduct GraviT&T]]". The actual AT&T has since purchased [[Creator/WarnerBros Disney's]] [[Creator/CartoonNetwork greatest rivals]], including [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse shows fans love]] [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall to crossover GF with]].
** Also, Pacifica's phone receiving service from "[[BlandNameProduct GraviT&T]]". The actual AT&T has since purchased [[Creator/WarnerBros Disney's]] [[Creator/CartoonNetwork greatest rivals]], including [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse shows fans love]] [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall to crossover GF with]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
** Anti-Mabel will be the closest fans will ever get to a [[Fanfic/ReverseFallsAU Reverse Mabel]] in the Gravity Falls canon. Especially when described as the most "evil" Mabel in the universe.
**Also, Pacifica's phone receiving service from "[[BlandNameProduct GraviT&T]]". The actual AT&T has since purchased [[Creator/WarnerBros Disney's]] [[Creator/CartoonNetwork greatest rivals]], including [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse shows fans love]] [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall to crossover GF with]].
** Anti-Mabel will be the closest fans will ever get to a [[Fanfic/ReverseFallsAU Reverse Mabel]] in the Gravity Falls canon. Especially when described as the most "evil" Mabel in the universe.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Wendy, who never received her own episode during the show's run, still doesn't get one here.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Wendy, who never received her own episode during the show's run, still doesn't get one here.
** Wendy, who never received her own episode during the show's run, still doesn't get one here.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Considering that we didn't see much of Pacifica post-HeelFaceTurn until the Weirdmageddon Trilogy, it was nice to see her get ADayInTheLimelight in "Face It".
** For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
** Considering that we didn't see much of Pacifica post-HeelFaceTurn until the Weirdmageddon Trilogy, it was nice to see her get ADayInTheLimelight in "Face It".
** For the fans who were disappointed with Mabel's selfishness as a character never being properly addressed during the show's final season, "Don't Dimension It" has her finally acknowledging how detrimental her self-centered attitude is after witnessing similar behavior from all her alternate selfs. The story even ends with Mabel properly apologizing to Dipper for the problems she's caused, gifting him the Pine Tree book seen at the end of ''[[Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 Journal 3]]'', and promising to be less of an attention hog in the future.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mr. Whats-His-Face became the most popular monster introduced in the series due to his [[NightmareFuel sinister appearance]] and his [[CreepyAwesome extremely creepy]] yet oddly [[AffablyEvil affable]] personality.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mr. Whats-His-Face What's-His-Face became the most popular monster introduced in the series due to his [[NightmareFuel sinister appearance]] and his [[CreepyAwesome extremely creepy]] yet oddly [[AffablyEvil affable]] personality.
