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* ObviousBeta: Many locations that were meant to be used for sidequests are sloppily DummiedOut.
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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilGenius Grau]] is the sinister lackey of Emelious who is later revealed to be [[TheManInFrontOfTheMan the one responsible]] for his "master"'s actions. Having stumbled upon Emelious after he was corrupted by Xorn, Grau began using him as a figurehead to resurrect Xorn in a bid of power. Guiding Emelious to kill the other Guardians knowing it would bring destruction upon the world, Grau also enlisted their personal army to ruthlessly carry out their plans, apathetic of the casualties they caused. By the time of Xorn's return, Grau, revealing his true colors, tries to backstab Emelious and kill Alfina after their role was complete before trying to command Xorn with the Godkiller, laughing the world was his amidst the desolation caused by his resurrection.
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**[[DraconicAbomination Xorn]], the Fallen Guardian, is a force of destruction who destroyed the Verse Realms many years ago and seeks to return to turn everything into a lifeless void. Using Emelious as a vessel, Xorn had him kill the remaining Guardians for his return, invading and causing countless deaths and ruining the natural balance of the world. Having been resurrected by Grau, Xorn begins disposing of his pawns by turning them into glass before turning everything into a wasteland through his tendrils or spawn, mocking Alfina and the party by disparaging Emelious's final stand against him before trying to kill them as the final step towards [[OmnicidalManiac perishing all life]].
**[[EvilGenius Grau]] is the sinister lackey of Emelious who is later revealed to be [[TheManInFrontOfTheMan the one responsible]] for his "master"'s actions. Having stumbled upon Emelious after he was corrupted by Xorn, Grau began using him as a figurehead to resurrect Xorn in a bid of power. Guiding Emelious to kill the other Guardians knowing it would bring destruction upon the world, Grau also enlisted their personal army to ruthlessly carry out their plans, apathetic of the casualties they caused. By the time of Xorn's return, Grau, revealing his true colors, tries to backstab Emelious and kill Alfina after their role was complete before trying to command Xorn with the Godkiller, laughing the world was his amidst the desolation caused by his resurrection.
**[[DraconicAbomination Xorn]], the Fallen Guardian, is a force of destruction who destroyed the Verse Realms many years ago and seeks to return to turn everything into a lifeless void. Using Emelious as a vessel, Xorn had him kill the remaining Guardians for his return, invading and causing countless deaths and ruining the natural balance of the world. Having been resurrected by Grau, Xorn begins disposing of his pawns by turning them into glass before turning everything into a wasteland through his tendrils or spawn, mocking Alfina and the party by disparaging Emelious's final stand against him before trying to kill them as the final step towards [[OmnicidalManiac perishing all life]].
**[[EvilGenius Grau]] is the sinister lackey of Emelious who is later revealed to be [[TheManInFrontOfTheMan the one responsible]] for his "master"'s actions. Having stumbled upon Emelious after he was corrupted by Xorn, Grau began using him as a figurehead to resurrect Xorn in a bid of power. Guiding Emelious to kill the other Guardians knowing it would bring destruction upon the world, Grau also enlisted their personal army to ruthlessly carry out their plans, apathetic of the casualties they caused. By the time of Xorn's return, Grau, revealing his true colors, tries to backstab Emelious and kill Alfina after their role was complete before trying to command Xorn with the Godkiller, laughing the world was his amidst the desolation caused by his resurrection.
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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilGenius Grau]] is the sinister lackey of Emelious who is later revealed to be [[TheManInFrontOfTheMan the one responsible]] for his "master"'s actions. Having stumbled upon Emelious after he was been corrupted by Xorn, Grau began using him as a figurehead to resurrect Xorn in a bid of power. Guiding Emelious to kill the other Guardians knowing it would bring destruction upon the world, Grau also enlisted their personal army to ruthlessly carry out their plans, apathetic of the casualties they caused. By the time of Xorn's return, Grau, revealing his true colors, tries to backstab Emelious and kill Alfina after their role was complete before trying to command Xorn with the Godkiller, laughing the world was his amidst the desolation caused by his resurrection.
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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilGenius Grau]] is the sinister lackey of Emelious who is later revealed to be [[TheManInFrontOfTheMan the one responsible]] for his "master"'s actions. Having stumbled upon Emelious after he was been corrupted by Xorn, Grau began using him as a figurehead to resurrect Xorn in a bid of power. Guiding Emelious to kill the other Guardians knowing it would bring destruction upon the world, Grau also enlisted their personal army to ruthlessly carry out their plans, apathetic of the casualties they caused. By the time of Xorn's return, Grau, revealing his true colors, tries to backstab Emelious and kill Alfina after their role was complete before trying to command Xorn with the Godkiller, laughing the world was his amidst the desolation caused by his resurrection.
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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilGenius Grau]] is the sinister lackey of Emelious who is later revealed to be [[TheManInFrontOfTheMan the one responsible]] for his "master"'s actions. Having stumbled upon Emelious after he was been corrupted by Xorn, Grau began using him as a figurehead to resurrect Xorn in a bid of power. Guiding Emelious to kill the other Guardians knowing it would bring destruction upon the world, Grau also enlisted their personal army to ruthlessly carry out their plans, apathetic of the casualties they caused. By the time of Xorn's return, Grau, revealing his true colors, tries to backstab Emelious and kill Alfina after their role was complete before trying to command Xorn with the Godkiller, laughing the world was his amidst the desolation caused by his resurrection.
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** The infamous town theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krbTjVulToI "Baccla"]]. What's jarring is that the music is done by Noriyuki Iwadare, and the rest is fine.
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** The infamous town theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krbTjVulToI "Baccla"]]. What's jarring is that the music is was done by Noriyuki Iwadare, and the rest of the games music is fine.fine.
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* ContestedSequel: The game was highly anticipated by fans of the CultClassic [[VideoGame/Grandia1 original]] and [[VideoGame/GrandiaII first sequel]], particularly after the [[VideoGame/GrandiaXtreme highly divisive interquel]], but it just didn't catch on the same way (like ''Xtreme'', it didn't even receive a PAL release). There was a certain air of ItsTheSameNowItSucks about it, with a lot of the game's tropes and character archetypes being reused from the previous ones and the plot as a whole being something of a ClicheStorm, and while the combat system had been polished to a mirror sheen, the game ended up being overshadowed by other [=PS2 JRPGs=]. While still unquestionably a very good JRPG in its own right, it ended up being [[FranchiseKiller the last proper installment]] (not counting the short-lived and [[NoExportForYou Japan-exclusive]] ''Grandia Online'').
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* ContestedSequel: The game was highly anticipated by fans of the CultClassic [[VideoGame/Grandia1 original]] and [[VideoGame/GrandiaII first sequel]], particularly after the [[VideoGame/GrandiaXtreme highly divisive interquel]], but it just didn't catch on the same way (like ''Xtreme'', it didn't even receive a PAL release). There was a certain air of ItsTheSameNowItSucks about it, with a lot of the game's tropes and character archetypes being reused from the previous ones and the plot as a whole being something of a ClicheStorm, and while the combat system had been polished to a mirror sheen, the game ended up being overshadowed by other [=PS2 JRPGs=]. While still unquestionably a very good JRPG in its own right, it ended up being [[FranchiseKiller the last proper installment]] (not counting the short-lived and [[NoExportForYou Japan-exclusive]] ''Grandia Online''). Unlike the first two games, it has also never been ported to PC or another console, or given an UpdatedRerelease.
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* ContestedSequel: The game was highly anticipated by fans of the CultClassic [[VideoGame/Grandia1 original]] and [[VideoGame/GrandiaII first sequel]], particularly after the [[VideoGame/GrandiaXtreme highly divisive interquel]], but it just didn't catch on the same way (like ''Xtreme'', it didn't even receive a PAL release). There was a certain air of ItsTheSameNowItSucks about it, with a lot of the game's tropes and character archetypes being reused from the previous ones and the plot as a whole being something of a ClicheStorm, and while the combat system had been polished to a mirror sheen, the game ended up being overshadowed by other [=PS2 JRPGs=]. While still unquestionably a very good JRPG in its own right, it ended up being [[FranchiseKiller the last proper installment]] (not counting the short-lived and [[NoExportForYou Japan-exclusive]] ''Grandia Online'').
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* ToughActToFollow: After its [[VideoGame/Grandia1 widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being rushed and quite short by comparison [[WhatCouldHaveBeen (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended up being),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with its predecessors.
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* DifficultySpike: The game peaks in difficulty once you reach the Melc Ruins.
* GoddamnedBats: Any enemy that can cast the Sleep spell, which is high accurate and affects the entire party.
* GoddamnedBats: Any enemy that can cast the Sleep spell, which is high accurate and affects the entire party.
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* SequelDifficultySpike: The game is much harder than ''VideoGame/GrandiaII'', which was criticized for the lack of challenge when released.
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** The infamous town theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krbTjVulToI "Baccla"]]. What's jarring is that the music is done by Noriyuki Iwadare, and the rest of the soundtrack is fine.
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** The infamous town theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krbTjVulToI "Baccla"]]. What's jarring is that the music is done by Noriyuki Iwadare, and the rest of the soundtrack is fine.
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* {{Narm}}: "All love must PERISH!!!"
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** The English voice acting again. "All love mustPERISH!!!"PERISH!!!"
** The infamous town theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krbTjVulToI "Baccla"]]. What's jarring is that the music is done by Noriyuki Iwadare, and the rest of the soundtrack is fine.
** The English voice acting again. "All love must
** The infamous town theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krbTjVulToI "Baccla"]]. What's jarring is that the music is done by Noriyuki Iwadare, and the rest of the soundtrack is fine.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Miranda is a rare example of ActionMom in [=JRPGs=] who spends the opening hours with the hero as his mentor. This could make some interesting dynamic between them, but she doesn't stay too long - she bonds with Alonso (ifself a contested decision, given [[RomanticPlotTumor how abruptly their relationship develops after establishing her as an independent, unruly woman]]) and permenantly leaves the party, never to be seen again. She doesn't even reappear in the ending or anything.
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** Also, [[spoiler:Emelious has given players some trouble. The player must not only deal with the onslaught by three opponents (the sword, the orb, and Emelious himself), but also must keep the aptly named God Slayer from reaching its acting point--]]if it gets the chance to do so, the entire party will be instantly killed.
** The final boss is no pushover either, boasting 120,000+ HP and incredibly powerful attacks. Not only that, but it gets fiercer and fiercer the less HP it has.
** The final boss is no pushover either, boasting 120,000+ HP and incredibly powerful attacks. Not only that, but it gets fiercer and fiercer the less HP it has.
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** Also, [[spoiler:Emelious Emelious has given players some trouble. The player must not only deal with the onslaught by three opponents (the sword, the orb, and Emelious himself), but also must keep the aptly named God Slayer from reaching its acting point--]]if point--if it gets the chance to do so, the entire party will be instantly killed.
** The final boss is no pushover either, boasting 120,000+ HP and incredibly powerful attacks. Not only that, but it gets fiercer and fiercer the less HP it has.killed.
** The final boss is no pushover either, boasting 120,000+ HP and incredibly powerful attacks. Not only that, but it gets fiercer and fiercer the less HP it has.
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* ToughActToFollow: After its [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being rushed and quite short by comparison [[WhatCouldHaveBeen (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended up being),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with its predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After its [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} [[VideoGame/Grandia1 widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being rushed and quite short by comparison [[WhatCouldHaveBeen (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended up being),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with its predecessors.predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's its [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being rushed and quite short by comparison [[WhatCouldHaveBeen (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended up being),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with its predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being rushed and quite short by comparison [[WhatCouldHaveBeen (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended up being),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's its predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being rushed and quite short by comparison [[WhatCouldHaveBeen (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended),]] ended up being),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being highly rushed and feeling quite short by comparison, and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} widely]] [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being highly rushed and feeling quite short by comparison, comparison [[WhatCouldHaveBeen (which isn't helped by the fact that the game was going to be much longer and bigger than it ended),]] and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[VideoGame/Grandia widely]] [[VideoGame/Grandia II acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being highly rushed and feeling quite short by comparison, and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's predecessors.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[VideoGame/Grandia [[{{VideoGame/Grandia}} widely]] [[VideoGame/Grandia II [[VideoGame/GrandiaII acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being highly rushed and feeling quite short by comparison, and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's predecessors.
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** The final boss is no pushover either, boasting 120,000+ HP and incredibly powerful attacks. Not only that, but it gets fiercer and fiercer the less HP it has.
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* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[VideoGame/Grandia widely]] [[VideoGame/Grandia II acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being highly rushed and feeling quite short by comparison, and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's predecessors.
* ToughActToFollow: After it's [[VideoGame/Grandia widely]] [[VideoGame/Grandia II acclaimed]] predecessors, many fans were disappointed with the third game due to it being highly rushed and feeling quite short by comparison, and the plot and characters feeling like rehashes from the first two games' characters but lacking their charm. That said, everyone agrees that the gameplay is excellent, just like with it's predecessors.
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* JumpingTheShark: The gameplay and battle system stay good and interesting throughout the whole game except for the noticeable lack of bonus dungeons. But, most players agree that the story goes awry once [[spoiler: Miranda leaves the party. Unfortunately, that's less than halfway through the first disk...]]
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* JumpingTheShark: The gameplay and battle system stay good and interesting throughout the whole game except for the noticeable lack of bonus dungeons. But, most players agree that the story goes awry once [[spoiler: Miranda leaves the party. Unfortunately, that's less than halfway through the first disk...]]
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* TheScrappy: Alfina is disliked by most fans.
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* ThatOneBoss: The Melc Crystals. They have two forms that they can switch between at any time, each form with its own characteristics. Its first form is just like any regular old boss, albeit slightly more powerful. However, its second form, that of a bird, is an incredibly fast and powerful monster of a boss that can tear players to pieces. Did we mention that simply changing forms deals damage to everyone and can cancel?
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* ThatOneBoss: The ThatOneBoss:
**The Melc Crystals. They have two forms that they can switch between at any time, each form with its own characteristics. Its first form is just like any regular old boss, albeit slightly more powerful. However, its second form, that of a bird, is an incredibly fast and powerful monster of a boss that can tear players to pieces. Did we mention that simply changing forms deals damage to everyone and can cancel?
**The Melc Crystals. They have two forms that they can switch between at any time, each form with its own characteristics. Its first form is just like any regular old boss, albeit slightly more powerful. However, its second form, that of a bird, is an incredibly fast and powerful monster of a boss that can tear players to pieces. Did we mention that simply changing forms deals damage to everyone and can cancel?
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* TheScrappy: Alfina is disliked by most fans.