History YMMV / Gothic

24th Sep '16 3:52:08 PM Rakt
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**It was even more popular in Russia. Until Forsaken Gods, Arcania and FanDumb killed it, that it. It's still considered CultClassic .
27th Jun '16 5:09:54 PM jake38
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** Especially in the German community, Gothic I and II were often considered the ideal of how a German RPG should look, a dark, dirty world with an incredibly thick atmosphere (the main reason why you can perform entirely pointless animations) where one has to work his way up to become a {{Badass}}. Fans generally refer to this as the Gothic Feeling. The huge changes made by Gothic III and the following games have often been criticized by the fanbase for lacking that particular feeling around them. Risen, on the other hand, was quickly considered to be possessing the Gothic Feeling and therefore, a worthy SpiritualSuccessor by most.

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** Especially in the German community, Gothic I and II were often considered the ideal of how a German RPG should look, a dark, dirty world with an incredibly thick atmosphere (the main reason why you can perform entirely pointless animations) where one has to work his way up to become a {{Badass}}. Fans generally refer to this as the Gothic Feeling. The huge changes made by Gothic III and the following games have often been criticized by the fanbase for lacking that particular feeling around them. Risen, ''VideoGame/{{Risen}}'', on the other hand, was quickly considered to be possessing the Gothic Feeling and therefore, a worthy SpiritualSuccessor by most.
10th Nov '15 1:08:52 PM Forenperser
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Gothic I ends with The Barrier destroyed and the Sleeper banished... but hundreds of dangerous convicts are now free.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Gothic I ends with The Barrier destroyed and the Sleeper banished... but hundreds of dangerous convicts are now free. On a similar note, you'll leave Khorinis in Gothic 2, having made many friends and supposedly solving many problems.....but the island is later (off-screen) overrun by the Orcs and every human there is presumably either enslaved or killed, so it was all for nothing.
3rd Sep '15 1:16:25 PM GrandPrincePaulII
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1PuvlcOyfU&feature=related Concert of In Extremo]] in Gothic I

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1PuvlcOyfU&feature=related com/watch?v=43kJxqijfH8 Concert of In Extremo]] in Gothic I
10th Nov '14 1:09:17 PM ZuTheSkunk
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* IdiotBall - The Nameless One grabs it hard during the first game when, after being told by Xardas that blowing up the Water Mages' pile of ore wouldn't destroy the Barrier, he for no apparent reason decides not to tell Saturas about this and then, once again without telling them about this, uses the pile to power up Uriziel. This results in the Water Mages being angry on him for the rest of the game and in Saturas' long-lasting dislike for him in subsequent games.
3rd Oct '14 5:46:57 AM Jerry
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* ScrappyMechanic - Ladders in the first game were likely responsible for more deaths than enemies. Taken out in the second game and lampshaded in the addon.
26th Jul '14 2:58:35 AM Asgar
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Gothic I ends with The Barrier destroyed and the Sleeper banished... but hundreds of dangerous convicts are now free.
** In Gothic II the Nameless Hero and his friends raid Halls of Irdorath, saving the world... but it doesn't stop orcs from conquering Khorinis and, as you learn in Gothic III, the entire continent.
24th Jul '14 6:50:05 AM Forenperser
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** CanonDiscontinuity: While Gothic III remains in canon, all Non-Piranha Bytes creations (the Expansion Pack, the Mobile Game and Arcania) were declared non-canon via {{Word of God}} when the rights went back to them.


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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Hell yeah, just ask the fanbase and look at the ratings ''Forsaken Gods'' and ''Arcania'' have received. The fandom was very happy when Piranha Bytes regained the rights and declared both games non-canon.
15th Jul '14 9:08:08 AM Wardsback
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAALlACa5PY&feature=kp#t=1h12m22s Forgotten World]].
9th Jul '14 5:09:24 AM LogoP
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* FanDumb - The German fan community is an extremely vicious BrokenBase. Generally, most of them can agree that the first two games and the ExpansionPack were awesome, but when Gothic 3 came out, everything went to hell, especially when the developers, Piranha Bytes, and the publisher, Jowood, separated. Jowood kept the license and went on to make Forsaken Gods and now Arcania. Piranha Bytes instead went on to make VideoGame/{{Risen}}. Most members of the community side with PB and consider Risen a worthy SpiritualSuccessor, but prepare for a flame war when you're not implying that Gothic 3 didn't suck (yet PB, of course, had no fault in that, according to them) or that any of the games made without Piranha Bytes might actually be worthy of the name ''Gothic''. Even if you do agree with the general opinion, expect someone to call you a fanboy. FlameWar ensues either way.
** The vitriol over Gothic III isn't nearly as bad with some fans due to the fact the Community Patches cleaned up a lot of the bugs and fans have been working on reintroducing the dark atmosphere back into Gothic III via modding, but Forsaken Gods and Arcania still drawn not entirely unreasonable utter hatred.
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