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* Creator'sPet: Like many Undertale fans, the creator of Glitchtale gives Sans this treatment. [[(Making more powerful then he really is in canon, making him the main character...at least in season 1 and letting him remember resets) Also, when Sans is suddenly being a holier-than-thou, hypocritical jerk in Season 2, he's never properly called out on his behavior. Then when he dies, he is later brought back to life (temporarily) because the creator likes him, while Alphys (one of the creator's least favorite characters) is killed off permanently and is the only main character of the Orignal Undertale Cast to be dead by the time of Betty's final battle!]]

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* Creator'sPet: CreatorsPet: Like many Undertale fans, the creator of Glitchtale gives Sans this treatment. [[(Making more powerful then he really is in canon, making him the main character...at least in season 1 and letting him remember resets) Also, when Sans is suddenly being a holier-than-thou, hypocritical jerk in Season 2, he's never properly called out on his behavior. Then when he dies, he is later brought back to life (temporarily) because the creator likes him, while Alphys (one of the creator's least favorite characters) is killed off permanently and is the only main character of the Orignal Undertale Cast to be dead by the time of Betty's final battle!]]

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* CreepyAwesome: Betty and Akumu are able to take on Gaster together with Betty forming Kumu into a ''pink scythe'', and the more souls absorbed by Akumu, the more Betty's hair turns pink with the power of Fear, giving her [[{{Expy}} massive similarities]] to the villain Goku Black from ''Anime/{{Dragon Ball Super}}'' or Marluxia from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. Ultimately, enough souls allows them to take over an enemy's magic attacks using "Rhabdophobia". Using Hate allows Betty to exponentially increase her power, and she can even use it to resurrect souls under her control. Finally, [[spoiler:her merged state with Kumu (her original form) allows her to use Kumu's shapeshifter abilities, turning her arms into weapons and setting the stage for her eventual OneWingedAngel transformation.]]

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* CreepyAwesome: Creator'sPet: Like many Undertale fans, the creator of Glitchtale gives Sans this treatment. [[(Making more powerful then he really is in canon, making him the main character...at least in season 1 and letting him remember resets) Also, when Sans is suddenly being a holier-than-thou, hypocritical jerk in Season 2, he's never properly called out on his behavior. Then when he dies, he is later brought back to life (temporarily) because the creator likes him, while Alphys (one of the creator's least favorite characters) is killed off permanently and is the only main character of the Orignal Undertale Cast to be dead by the time of Betty's final battle!]]
** Asriel gets this treatment as well since he also gets resurrected. [[(And unlike Sans, his revival is permanent!)]]
*CreepyAwesome:
Betty and Akumu are able to take on Gaster together with Betty forming Kumu into a ''pink scythe'', and the more souls absorbed by Akumu, the more Betty's hair turns pink with the power of Fear, giving her [[{{Expy}} massive similarities]] to the villain Goku Black from ''Anime/{{Dragon Ball Super}}'' or Marluxia from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. Ultimately, enough souls allows them to take over an enemy's magic attacks using "Rhabdophobia". Using Hate allows Betty to exponentially increase her power, and she can even use it to resurrect souls under her control. Finally, [[spoiler:her merged state with Kumu (her original form) allows her to use Kumu's shapeshifter abilities, turning her arms into weapons and setting the stage for her eventual OneWingedAngel transformation.]]
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* RonTheDeathEater: Watching the series can really give you the impression that Camila isn't too sweet on Toriel. She's easily the least developed character in the main cast and is often portrayed as an unreasonable contrarian, a {{Hypocrite}}, a DirtyCoward or ''all three''. She also gets the most [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech The Reason You Suck Speeches]] out of the cast by far, with every one of these instances making it abundantly clear that you're supposed to agree with the one giving the speech to her and not sympathize with her at all and in fight scenes she's consistently the weak link that messes up and gets the rest of the group in trouble.
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** Betty's special attack [[which is stealing the magic of her foes. It comes out of no where and has nothing to do with her theme of fear.]]

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** Betty's special attack [[which [[spoiler:which is stealing the magic of her foes. It comes out of no where and has nothing to do with her theme of fear.]]



** Betty being able to [[spoiler:revive any monster she's absorbed using [[ThePowerOfHate HATE]].]]

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** Betty being able to [[spoiler:revive any monster she's absorbed using [[ThePowerOfHate HATE]].]]]] (Though this is somewhat foreshadowed by the fact that HATE was used in the first season to revive Chara and he could even use it to regrow limbs).
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*** Furthermore, how much free will and individuality does Betty have, if any? Is she fully and willingly on board with her creator's masterplan to commit genocide on all monsters, with no brain-hijacking or corruption done to her, or is she a TragicVillain and a ''victim'' of being BrainwashedAndCrazy ''for her entire life'' - i.e. forcibly implanted with a copy of Agate's own mindset, memories and personality? If this wasn't done to her, would she have been a good person and opposed Agate's orders? [[AndIMustScream Does this mean that she died as she lived - despised by all and forever unable to be free or become her own person?]]

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*** Furthermore, how much free will and individuality does Betty have, if any? Is she fully and willingly on board with her creator's masterplan master plan to commit genocide on all monsters, with no brain-hijacking or corruption done to her, or is she a TragicVillain and a ''victim'' of being BrainwashedAndCrazy ''for her entire life'' - i.e. forcibly implanted with a copy of Agate's own mindset, memories and personality? If this wasn't done to her, would she have been a good person and opposed Agate's orders? [[AndIMustScream Does this mean that she died as she lived - despised by all and forever unable to be free or become her own person?]]



** The Reveal that Gaster gains a huge power boost [[spoiler: if either of his children die]].
** The Reveal that Betty and Akumu are [[spoiler: artificial beings that are neither human nor monster, which allows them to shrug off the Nullifier's effects [[NoSell without a scratch]]]].
** Monsters suddenly being more physical because they ate human food which means [[spoiler:Undyne can enter her Undying Form without any detrimental effects.]]

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** The Reveal that Gaster gains a huge Gaster's power boost [[spoiler: if boosts [[spoiler:if either of his children die]].
die]] are only explained explicitly outside of the animation and only subtly implied in it, which can lead to some confusion. [[spoiler:"Animosity" has Gaster utilize Polycromism ''with'' Papyrus still alive by draining his magic, something not even stated ''outside'' of the animation.]]
** The Reveal that Betty and Akumu are [[spoiler: artificial [[spoiler:artificial beings that are neither human nor monster, which allows allowing them to shrug off the Nullifier's effects [[NoSell without a scratch]]]].
** Monsters suddenly being more physical because they ate human food which means [[spoiler:Undyne can enter her the Undying Form without any has no detrimental effects.effects on her.]]



** Betty being able to [[spoiler:revive any monster she's absorbed using ThePowerOfHate.]]

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** Betty being able to [[spoiler:revive any monster she's absorbed using ThePowerOfHate.[[ThePowerOfHate HATE]].]]



** The reveal that a human sage can use [[BlackMagic forbidden magic]] to invert their soul trait, which is the ''sole reason'' why [[spoiler:Betty can even exist in the first place]].

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** The reveal that a human sage can use [[BlackMagic forbidden magic]] to invert their soul trait, which is the ''sole reason'' why [[spoiler:Betty can even exist exists in the first place]].



** Chara [[spoiler:easily purges the hate out of Asriel and Flowey by taking it in himself and controlling it, something that should be improbable given how corrupting HATE has been shown to be and considering what happened the last time Chara was corrupted by it.]]
* AngstAversion: Considering that Season 2 has a [[CharactersDroppingLikeFlies very long string of tragic yet pointless character deaths]], a ridiculously powerful OC villian [[CurbStompBattle who keeps thrashing the heroes over and over]] through a combination of PlotArmor and VillainExitStageLeft, and a group of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wangst angsty]], [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional heroes]] who [[WeAreStrugglingTogether waste so much time on arguing and bickering with each other]] that [[IdiotPlot they can barely slow said villian down]], a ''cynical'' viewer might actually wish for [[spoiler: Betty Noire]] [[BondVillainStupidity to hurry up]] and [[RootingForTheEmpire kill off all of the heroes]] already [[RocksFallEverybodyDies just to be done with it]].

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** Chara [[spoiler:easily purges the hate out of Asriel and Flowey by taking it in himself and controlling it, something that should be improbable given how corrupting HATE has been shown to be and considering what happened the last time Chara was corrupted by it.]]
* AngstAversion: Considering that Season 2 has a [[CharactersDroppingLikeFlies very long string of tragic yet pointless character deaths]], a ridiculously powerful OC villian [[CurbStompBattle who keeps thrashing the heroes over and over]] through a combination of PlotArmor and VillainExitStageLeft, and a group of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wangst angsty]], [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional heroes]] who [[WeAreStrugglingTogether waste so much time on arguing and bickering with each other]] that [[IdiotPlot they can barely slow said villian down]], a ''cynical'' viewer might actually wish for [[spoiler: Betty Noire]] Noire [[BondVillainStupidity to hurry up]] and [[RootingForTheEmpire kill off all of the heroes]] already [[RocksFallEverybodyDies just to be done with it]].



** The ArtEvolution from the more cartoony style of Season 1 - Early Season 2 to the more Animesque style of "My Promise" onward. Those for it felt that the change in style was more fitting of the darker nature of the season and was an effect of Camilla having improved and refined her style as time went on. Others liked the old art style better, feeling the animesque style was either too overdone, too big a shift, or doesn't always fit the characters.
** Sans' treatment in Season 2, something inevitable given his popularity:
*** His death in "Dust", the second episode of the season. Many lamented that he was taken out so early in the season and so easily after having such a prominent role in the first season. Others thought his death was necessary as he was a StoryBreakerPower in himself and his death properly established the stakes. Others felt that he'd already had enough of a role in Season 1 and that his death would allow the rest of the cast to have their time in the spotlight.
*** [[spoiler:His resurrection in "Love: Part 2". The fans who had been pining for his return were naturally overjoyed that the ending opened up a chance for him to return and get in on the action. Those who were fine with his death were less than pleased that he was brought back [[LyingCreator after Camila previously said she wouldn't]] and felt that his resurrection greatly lowered the stakes.]]
*** [[spoiler:The WhamShot in "My Promise" showing that Sans was only LivingOnBorrowedTime, with the episode establishing he will die for real soon. Those happy with this felt that Sans was successfully restrained from being the StoryBreakerPower he usually is and reestablished the stakes by showing that his "resurrection" was merely a fluke. Others were upset at the prospect of Sans dying ''again'' after all the effort to get him back and were also disappointed that his return was merely [[PanderingToTheBase fanservice]] for the people who kept bugging Cami to revive him.]]



** Undyne the Undying thrashing Betty in Love Part 1, manging to inflict a CurbStompBattle on her even after using HATE to give herself a power boost.

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** Undyne the Undying thrashing Betty in Love Part 1, manging managing to inflict a CurbStompBattle on her even after using she uses HATE to give herself a power boost.



* CreepyAwesome: [[spoiler:Betty and Akumu are able to take on Gaster together with Betty forming Kumu into a ''pink scythe'', and the more souls absorbed by Akumu, the more Betty's hair turns pink with the power of Fear, giving her [[{{Expy}} massive similarities]] to the villain Goku Black from ''Anime/{{Dragon Ball Super}}'' or Marluxia from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. Ultimately, enough souls allows them to take over an enemy's magic attacks using "Rhabdophobia". Using Hate allows Betty to exponentially increase her power, and she can even use it to resurrect souls under her control. Finally, her merged state with Kumu (her original form) allows her to use Kumu's shapeshifter abilities, turning her arms into weapons and setting the stage for her eventual OneWingedAngel transformation.]]

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* CreepyAwesome: [[spoiler:Betty Betty and Akumu are able to take on Gaster together with Betty forming Kumu into a ''pink scythe'', and the more souls absorbed by Akumu, the more Betty's hair turns pink with the power of Fear, giving her [[{{Expy}} massive similarities]] to the villain Goku Black from ''Anime/{{Dragon Ball Super}}'' or Marluxia from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. Ultimately, enough souls allows them to take over an enemy's magic attacks using "Rhabdophobia". Using Hate allows Betty to exponentially increase her power, and she can even use it to resurrect souls under her control. Finally, her [[spoiler:her merged state with Kumu (her original form) allows her to use Kumu's shapeshifter abilities, turning her arms into weapons and setting the stage for her eventual OneWingedAngel transformation.]]



* EvilIsCool: [[spoiler:Bête Noire, the BadassAdorable (not counting when she opens [[BodyHorror her horrifying mouth]] in her true form) capable of creating magical spears, blades, scythes, and giant arrows, as well as specializing in the power of illusion and turning enemies' attacks against them. She is easily one of the most well-known and popular characters in all of the ''Undertale'' fandom, and often gets drawn in fan art with the canon cast.]]

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* EvilIsCool: [[spoiler:Bête Bête Noire, the BadassAdorable (not [[spoiler:(not counting when she opens [[BodyHorror her horrifying mouth]] in her true form) form)]] capable of creating magical spears, blades, scythes, and giant arrows, as well as specializing in the power of illusion and turning enemies' attacks against them. She is easily one of the most well-known and popular characters in all of the ''Undertale'' fandom, and often gets drawn in fan art with the canon cast.]]



* GeniusBonus: Betty's [[spoiler:ultimate ability, "Rhabdophobia". A secondary definition for it is a fear of ''magic'', which explains why Gaster's magic shuts down after it activates.]]

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* GeniusBonus: Betty's [[spoiler:ultimate ultimate ability, "Rhabdophobia". A secondary definition for it is a fear of ''magic'', which explains why Gaster's magic shuts down after it activates.]]



** You would expect something like [[spoiler:Betty]] to come up as a good reason to RESET, or at the very least for Sans to have some knowledge about someone so dangerous. Disregarding that [[spoiler:Betty]] is an OriginalCharacter, how was no one prepared for them? [[spoiler:It's because Frisk never let any of the timelines get far enough to encounter her; they were too enamored with the Underground and its wonders to let time go on. If they had let even one Pacifist timeline play out past the ending, they would have seen Betty coming. Instead, Frisk unwittingly trapped themselves in the present, glitched timeline that Betty is currently rampaging in, with all of the deaths being irreversible.]]
** A meta-example consists of many fans positing (and in some cases demonstrating with fanvids) that if [[spoiler:Chara]] were ever to re-enter the scene, [[spoiler:Betty]] would quickly cease to be a problem even before it was revealed [[spoiler:Betty]] [[ElementalRockPaperScissors is massively weak to Determination]]. [[spoiler:This exact scenario is set up to happen as of ''My Promise'', but it came at a high price: because two Red Soul owners can't occupy the same timeline and with Frisk being a ticking glitch-bomb, they are forced to RetGone themselves and make Chara take their place in the timeline just so they have the chance to stop Betty and save Asriel. Worse yet, the gamble fails utterly in the first glitched timeline because even if Chara ''can'' obliterate Betty, they were defeated by Corrupted Asriel before they got the chance.]]

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** Frisk smashing the RESET button at the end of Season 1, seemingly leaving the Underground behind for good and reaffirming his friendship with Sans, becomes this when "Love: Part 1" has him reveal that he not only lied about the promise, but was looking for a way to RESET the entire time, putting Sans anger from Frisk suggesting resetting in "Dust" in a whole new light.
** You would expect something like [[spoiler:Betty]] Betty to come up as a good reason to RESET, or at the very least for Sans to have some knowledge about someone so dangerous. Disregarding that [[spoiler:Betty]] Betty is an OriginalCharacter, how was no one prepared for them? [[spoiler:It's because Frisk never let any of the timelines get far enough to encounter her; they were too enamored with the Underground and its wonders to let time go on. If they had let even one Pacifist timeline play out past the ending, they would have seen Betty coming. Instead, Frisk unwittingly trapped themselves in the present, glitched timeline that Betty is currently rampaging in, with all of the deaths being irreversible.]]
** Papyrus managing to free Sans from Betty and HATE's control, effectively bringing him back to life, becomes this when future episodes establish that it wasn't a permanent solution and that Sans will soon die anyway, [[spoiler:which finally comes to fruition in "Animosity".]]
** A meta-example consists of many fans positing (and in some cases demonstrating with fanvids) that if [[spoiler:Chara]] were ever to re-enter the scene, [[spoiler:Betty]] Betty would quickly cease to be a problem even before it was revealed [[spoiler:Betty]] she [[ElementalRockPaperScissors is massively weak to Determination]]. [[spoiler:This exact scenario is set up to happen as of ''My Promise'', but it came at a high price: because two Red Soul owners can't occupy the same timeline and with Frisk being a ticking glitch-bomb, they are forced to RetGone themselves and make Chara take their place in the timeline just so they have the chance to stop Betty and save Asriel. Worse yet, the gamble fails utterly in the first glitched timeline because even if Chara ''can'' obliterate Betty, they were defeated by Corrupted Asriel before they got the chance.]]



* HilariousInHindsight: The many fan vids, fanarts, and theories detailing [[spoiler:the potential fight between Chara and Betty]] became this when [[spoiler:Gaster ended up killing Betty before Chara could properly fight her.]] Camila lampshaded this not long after the release of "Animosity".



** [[spoiler:Betty was EvilAllAlong and]] is the BigBad of Season 2. TheReveal happened in ''Dust'', the second episode of the arc, and has become hard to hide now.
** [[spoiler:Frisk's replacement with Chara in ''My Promise'' is now much harder to hide at this point.]]

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** [[spoiler:Betty was EvilAllAlong and]] is the BigBad of Season 2. TheReveal happened in ''Dust'', the second episode of the arc, and has become hard to hide now.
now due to her being one of the most popular [=OCs=] in the fandom.
** [[spoiler:Frisk's replacement with Chara in ''My Promise'' is now much harder to hide at this point.point as it shifts the role of main character.]]



** [[ViewersAreGoldfish Glitchtale Fans can't read]]. [[labelnote:Spoilers]] Betty's death came as a surprise to everyone, and she even stated in the Animation that she was dead. But due to the whole "Hate Possessing Betty's body" thing going on, and also a very large shock factor, a lot of Glitchtale fans thought that Betty was still alive, leading to this meme. [[/labelnote]]

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** [[ViewersAreGoldfish Glitchtale Fans can't read]]. [[labelnote:Spoilers]] Betty's death came as a surprise to everyone, and she even stated in the Animation that she was dead. But dead, but due to HATE possessing her body and the whole "Hate Possessing Betty's body" thing going on, and also a very large shock factor, factor from it, a lot of Glitchtale fans thought that Betty was still alive, alive until Camila had to confirm it herself multiple times, leading to this meme. [[/labelnote]]
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** Some humans having [[spoiler:souls with more than 1 trait, something impossible in vanilla ''Undertale''.]]

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most of the asspull ones are either things set up and foreshadowed in previous episodes, things that have already been established, things that should be obvious, or plot points being listed as complaints. plot hole isnt ymmv.


** Jessica Grey happens to own a soul-powered energy gun that allows her to [[spoiler: nullify Sans's magic twice.]]
** The Reveal that Betty [[spoiler: has PsychicPowers that allow her to induce powerful hallucinations that ''simply can not be countered through conventional means'', resulting in a borderline StoryBreakerPower if she chose to use them ''any'' less sparingly]].
** Shortly after [[spoiler: Betty reveals her true colors]], Gaster ''conveniently'' reveals that he and Alphys have been been working on a secret weapon called the Nullifier, which is stated [[ExactWords to be able to destroy any human or monster]]. This weapon is also housed within a large empty room that becomes a very convenient backdrop for [[spoiler: the fight between Gaster and Betty]].

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** Jessica Grey happens to own owning a soul-powered energy gun that allows her to [[spoiler: nullify [[spoiler:nullify Sans's magic twice.magic.]]
** The Reveal that Betty [[spoiler: has PsychicPowers that allow her to induce powerful hallucinations that ''simply can not be countered through conventional means'', resulting in a borderline StoryBreakerPower if she chose to use them ''any'' less sparingly]].
** Shortly after [[spoiler: Betty [[spoiler:Betty reveals her true colors]], Gaster ''conveniently'' reveals that he and Alphys have been been working on a secret weapon called the Nullifier, which is stated [[ExactWords to be able to destroy any human or monster]]. This weapon is also housed within a large empty room monster]], something that becomes a very convenient backdrop for [[spoiler: the fight between gets no foreshadowing until then and goes against Gaster and Betty]].seemingly only working on the CORE expansion in "My Sunshine".



** The Reveal that Betty is [[spoiler: an artificial being that is neither human nor monster, which allows her (and Akumu) to shrug off the Nullifier's effects [[NoSell without a scratch]]]].

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** The Reveal that Betty is and Akumu are [[spoiler: an artificial being beings that is are neither human nor monster, which allows her (and Akumu) them to shrug off the Nullifier's effects [[NoSell without a scratch]]]].



** Frisk reveals that they can increase their Level of Violence [[spoiler: through cruel words instead of killing people]].
** Frisk suddenly gives themselves a huge power boost that [[spoiler: instantly increases their Level of Violence to ''nineteen'' ]]through ThePowerOfHate.

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** Frisk reveals that they can being able to increase their Level of Violence [[spoiler: through [[spoiler:through cruel words and acts instead of killing, allowing them to get all the way up to LV 19 without killing people]].
** Frisk suddenly gives themselves a huge power boost that [[spoiler: instantly increases their Level of Violence to ''nineteen'' ]]through ThePowerOfHate.
anyone]].



** Amber: a little girl who's body was used to create Betty [[spoiler:has a soul with two traits.]]

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** Amber: a little girl who's body was used to create Betty [[spoiler:has a soul Some humans having [[spoiler:souls with two traits.more than 1 trait, something impossible in vanilla ''Undertale''.]]



** Frisk [[spoiler:entering the void to find Chara, giving him their soul so he can save everyone and somehow having the ability to erase/edit memories.]]
** It is revealed that [[spoiler: Chara tried and failed to reach out to the corrupted Asriel in a previous timeline, but when he died, Chara was somehow able to go back in time and give an extra heart locket to his past self to prevent an otherwise unwinnable situation]].
** Undyne [[spoiler: instantly heals wounds inflicted by Kumuzilla]] with the PowerOfFriendship.
** Rave's soul is [[spoiler: almost completely drained of energy due to the fight with Kumuzilla, and he is actually given a choice of moving on to the afterlife or staying in the realm of the living.]]
** After several episodes of buildup to the confrontation between Chara and Asriel... [[spoiler: Chara easily purges the hate out of Asriel (and Flowey) with the PowerOfFriendship, and then Chara quickly makes the hate disappear completely with the PowerOfFriendship in a rather anti-climatic manner.]]
** Betty [[spoiler: corners and immobilizes Toriel with her illusion powers, but Gaster suddenly shows up and saves Toriel from being beheaded at the very last second]].
** The manifestation of [[spoiler: Hatred attempts to kill an exhausted Papyrus, but Chara and the purified Asriel make it JustInTime to bail Papyrus and Gaster out.]]



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** Frisk [[spoiler:entering the void to find Chara, giving him their soul so he can save everyone and somehow having the ability to erase/edit [[spoiler:erase/edit memories.]]
** It is revealed that [[spoiler: Chara tried and failed using his determination to reach out to the corrupted Asriel in a previous timeline, but when he died, Chara was somehow able to go [[spoiler:go back in time and give an extra heart locket to his past self to prevent create a new timeline, preventing an otherwise unwinnable situation]].
** Undyne [[spoiler: instantly heals wounds inflicted by Kumuzilla]] with the PowerOfFriendship.
** Rave's soul is [[spoiler: almost completely drained of energy due to the fight with Kumuzilla, and he is actually given a choice of moving on to the afterlife or staying in the realm of the living.]]
** After several episodes of buildup to the confrontation between
Chara and Asriel... [[spoiler: Chara easily [[spoiler:easily purges the hate out of Asriel (and Flowey) with and Flowey by taking it in himself and controlling it, something that should be improbable given how corrupting HATE has been shown to be and considering what happened the PowerOfFriendship, and then last time Chara quickly makes the hate disappear completely with the PowerOfFriendship in a rather anti-climatic manner.]]
** Betty [[spoiler: corners and immobilizes Toriel with her illusion powers, but Gaster suddenly shows up and saves Toriel from being beheaded at the very last second]].
** The manifestation of [[spoiler: Hatred attempts to kill an exhausted Papyrus, but Chara and the purified Asriel make it JustInTime to bail Papyrus and Gaster out.]]


was corrupted by it.]]



** [[spoiler:Gaster ''annihilating''' Betty in "Animosity" after Sans' FinalDeath, subjecting her to an even more severe CurbSompBattle than the above before giving her one of the most horrifying, brutal, and well-deserved deaths in the whole series. That he is the one to kill her is even more so as he is arguably Betty's biggest victim.]]

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** [[spoiler:Gaster ''annihilating''' ''annihilating'' Betty in "Animosity" after Sans' FinalDeath, subjecting her to an even more severe CurbSompBattle than the above before giving her one of the most horrifying, brutal, and well-deserved deaths in the whole series. That he is the one to kill her is makes it even more so as he is arguably Betty's biggest victim.]]



** Glitchtale Fans can't read. [[labelnote:Spoilers]] Betty's death came as a surprise to everyone, and she even stated in the Animation that she was dead. But due to the whole "Hate Possessing Betty's body" thing going on, and also a very large shock factor, a lot of Glitchtale fans thought that Betty was still alive, leading to this meme. [[/labelnote]]

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** [[ViewersAreGoldfish Glitchtale Fans can't read.read]]. [[labelnote:Spoilers]] Betty's death came as a surprise to everyone, and she even stated in the Animation that she was dead. But due to the whole "Hate Possessing Betty's body" thing going on, and also a very large shock factor, a lot of Glitchtale fans thought that Betty was still alive, leading to this meme. [[/labelnote]]



* Plot Hole:
** Asriel technically has Chara's soul, but Chara's...spirit? Mind? is stuck in the void... How the heck does that even work?!
** Also, Asriel's body turns to dust instead of him turning back to Flowey.
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** Raven's mom is an [insert insulting term here]. [[labelnote:Explanation]] After Raven's tragic backstory is revealed, a lot of Glitchtale fans took offense to how Raven was treated as a child, and as such memes spiraled out of control over who could insult Raven's mom the most.[[/labelnote]]

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** Raven's Rave's mom is an [insert insulting term here]. [[labelnote:Explanation]] After Raven's tragic backstory is revealed, a lot of Glitchtale fans took offense to how Raven Rave was treated as a child, and as such memes spiraled out of control over who could insult Raven's mom the most.[[/labelnote]]
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** Glitchtale Fans can't read. [[labelnote:Spoilers]] Betty's death came as a surprise to everyone, and she even stated in the Animation that she was dead. But due to the whole "Hate Possessing Betty's body" thing going on, and also a very large shock factor, a lot of Glitchtale fans thought that Betty was still alive, leading to this meme. [[/labelnote]]

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** It is revealed that [[spoiler: Chara tried and failed to reach out to the corrupted Asriel in a previous timeline , but when he died, Chara was somehow able to go back in time and give an extra heart locket to his past self preventing an otherwise unwinnable situation]].

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** It is revealed that [[spoiler: Chara tried and failed to reach out to the corrupted Asriel in a previous timeline , timeline, but when he died, Chara was somehow able to go back in time and give an extra heart locket to his past self preventing to prevent an otherwise unwinnable situation]].situation]].
** Undyne [[spoiler: instantly heals wounds inflicted by Kumuzilla]] with the PowerOfFriendship.
** Rave's soul is [[spoiler: almost completely drained of energy due to the fight with Kumuzilla, and he is actually given a choice of moving on to the afterlife or staying in the realm of the living.]]
** After several episodes of buildup to the confrontation between Chara and Asriel... [[spoiler: Chara easily purges the hate out of Asriel (and Flowey) with the PowerOfFriendship, and then Chara quickly makes the hate disappear completely with the PowerOfFriendship in a rather anti-climatic manner.]]
**Betty [[spoiler: corners and immobilizes Toriel with her illusion powers, but Gaster suddenly shows up and saves Toriel from being beheaded at the very last second]].
** The manifestation of [[spoiler: Hatred attempts to kill an exhausted Papyrus, but Chara and the purified Asriel make it JustInTime to bail Papyrus and Gaster out.]]


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** Amber for being TheCutie and [[spoiler:having a heartbreakingly short life. Many fans tend to see her as a desperate spirit who only wants to be free to move on to the afterlife by having her body (Betty) be destroyed.]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Some are not happy with WordOfGod's repeated statements of Amber having been [[spoiler:KilledOffForReal in the past (despite her body becoming Bête Noire) and that she won't be involved in the current storyline in any way, even as a spirit or a SplitPersonality of Betty, trying desperately to take back control from Agate's corruption (or even Agate's spirit herself)]].



** Betty being a BrainwashedAndCrazy ObliviouslyEvil TragicVillain is completely unknown to the heroes (and even some viewers), only revealed in supplementary material. It would be interesting to see the heroes sympathize with a creature who lacks the ability to feel positive emotions or make her own decisions without her creator maintaining control from within. Potentially, in the event that she would die in the finale, this could have been a massive TearJerker and AlasPoorVillain moment both In-Universe and out.

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** Betty being a BrainwashedAndCrazy ObliviouslyEvil TragicVillain is completely unknown to the heroes (and even some viewers), only revealed in supplementary material. It would be interesting to see the heroes sympathize with a creature who lacks the ability to feel positive emotions or make her own decisions without her creator maintaining control from within. Potentially, in the event that she would die in the finale, this could have been a massive TearJerker and AlasPoorVillain moment both In-Universe and out. [[spoiler:Instead, her death is portrayed extremely unsympathetically and is glossed over by having HATE take full control of her remains immediately after.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** It can be extremely difficult to determine just where Bête Noire stands as a character.
*** Is she just a sadistic and psychopathic mass murderer who made up an excuse for her FantasticRacism and love of slaughter and torture, [[ForTheEvulz meaning that she is nothing more than evil just for the sake of it?]] Or does she genuinely believe that she's a NecessaryEvil, saving the future of the world by deleting one race to protect the other, and that only those who side with the "enemy" race must die?
*** Does she want to put herself on top as ruler of planet Earth using her "excuse" to manipulate others, or is she genuinely scared of another human-monster war, one which could devastate the entire world, therefore leaving her with no other choice?
*** Furthermore, how much free will and individuality does Betty have, if any? Is she fully and willingly on board with her creator's masterplan to commit genocide on all monsters, with no brain-hijacking or corruption done to her, or is she a TragicVillain and a ''victim'' of being BrainwashedAndCrazy ''for her entire life'' - i.e. forcibly implanted with a copy of Agate's own mindset, memories and personality? If this wasn't done to her, would she have been a good person and opposed Agate's orders? [[AndIMustScream Does this mean that she died as she lived - despised by all and forever unable to be free or become her own person?]]
*** Does Betty only have a copy of Agate's personality to call her own, or does she have a SplitPersonality as implied during her conversations with Kumu in supplementary material? Is that personality her true self, buried underneath all of Agate's evil?
** Agate herself:
*** After losing her first battle to Copper, was she intending to murder him and Amber from then on, even before reversing her soul trait? Alternatively, was she only trying to find a power that would let her beat him and allow her decree for monster kind (to stay underground for humanity's safety) to be carried out? If the latter is true, then it means that she ''didn't'' intend to become the horrible psychopath she was in her final few days, and [[AndIMustScream accidentally corrupted herself]] [[FridgeHorror irreversibly]] [[TragicVillain through reversing her trait and removing all positive emotions from herself.]]
*** Is she communicating with Betty from the afterlife as a spirit? Is she possessing Betty, who owns her soul? Is she actually Betty's dominant personality and the one in control for the most part? Evidence could be given towards her being able to take over in moments such as when Betty finds Agate's bones and begins freaking out before saying that she "can't die in this body" and that she'll save "(their) race".



** Quite possibly in response to how dark and hopeless things started looking for the heroes by late Season 2, [[spoiler:"Animosity" ends with the heroes having pulled off an unambiguous victory on all 3 fronts. Undyne's group manages to defeat Kumuzilla, Chara saves Asriel without having to resort to killing him, and Gaster's group ultimately manages to ''kill Betty Noire''. The only loss is Sans, whose FinalDeath had been a ForgoneConclusion since "My Promise".]]

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** Quite possibly in response to how dark and hopeless things started looking for the heroes by late Season 2, [[spoiler:"Animosity" ends with the heroes having pulled off an unambiguous victory on all 3 fronts. Undyne's group manages to defeat Kumuzilla, Chara saves Asriel without having to resort to killing him, and Gaster's group ultimately manages to ''kill Betty Bête Noire''. The only loss is Sans, whose FinalDeath had been a ForgoneConclusion since "My Promise".]]

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some of the asspull ones just sound like complaints. new episode woo


* AuthorsSavingThrow: Some found a huge problem with the ending to "Love Part 2": namely, that any character death could be reversed if Camila thought of a way how, and thus there were no real stakes. Future episodes defied this ''so hard'' that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor fans were practically begging for lower stakes by the end of it]]:
** "My Promise" showed that [[spoiler:getting Asriel back was much harder than it seemed, since he was too angry with the people he cared about to be brought back to normal in the same manner as Sans.]] [[spoiler:Alphys]] is also implicitly but firmly stated to be beyond resurrection. The ending takes the cake by having [[spoiler:Frisk permanently replace himself with Chara]], proving once and for all that ''no one'' is safe.
** "Game Over: Part 1" showed that [[spoiler:getting ''Sans'' back was harder than it looked, and later [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption stated to be physically impossible by Gaster]], with his efforts only dooming Sans to a worse fate: being awake while dying instead of passing away in peace]].
** "Game Over: Part 2" further reinforced that no one is safe by [[spoiler:killing off Jessica Grey]], while forcing fans to face the possibility of seeing [[spoiler:Sans's FinalDeath by showing him regaining consciousness]], something the teaser for "Animosity" confirms.
* AssPull: There are ''quite a few'' in Season 2:
** The reveal that the Soul of Integrity just so happened to be [[OneDegreeOfSeparation the daughter of Jessica Grey]], which conveniently [[RuleOfDrama ruins]] a series of peace talks between humans and monsters.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
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Some found a huge problem with the ending to "Love Part 2": namely, that any character death could be reversed if Camila thought of a way how, and thus there were no real stakes. Future episodes defied this ''so hard'' that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor fans were practically begging for lower stakes by the end of it]]:
** *** "My Promise" showed that [[spoiler:getting Asriel back was much harder than it seemed, since he was too angry with the people he cared about to be brought back to normal in the same manner as Sans.]] [[spoiler:Alphys]] is also implicitly but firmly stated to be beyond resurrection. The ending takes the cake by having [[spoiler:Frisk permanently replace himself with Chara]], proving once and for all that ''no one'' is safe.
** *** "Game Over: Part 1" showed that [[spoiler:getting ''Sans'' back was harder than it looked, and later [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption stated to be physically impossible by Gaster]], with his efforts only dooming Sans to a worse fate: being awake while dying instead of passing away in peace]].
** *** "Game Over: Part 2" further reinforced that no one is safe by [[spoiler:killing off Jessica Grey]], while forcing fans to face the possibility of seeing [[spoiler:Sans's FinalDeath by showing him regaining consciousness]], something the teaser for "Animosity" confirms.
** Quite possibly in response to how dark and hopeless things started looking for the heroes by late Season 2, [[spoiler:"Animosity" ends with the heroes having pulled off an unambiguous victory on all 3 fronts. Undyne's group manages to defeat Kumuzilla, Chara saves Asriel without having to resort to killing him, and Gaster's group ultimately manages to ''kill Betty Noire''. The only loss is Sans, whose FinalDeath had been a ForgoneConclusion since "My Promise".]]
* AssPull: There are ''quite quite a few'' few in Season 2:
** The reveal that the Soul of Integrity just so happened
2, mostly due to be [[OneDegreeOfSeparation the daughter of Jessica Grey]], which conveniently [[RuleOfDrama ruins]] a series of peace talks between humans and monsters.some things being explained only through supplementary material:



** Betty having a special attack that is able to [[spoiler:steal magic attacks.]]



** Amber: a little girl who's body was used to create Betty [[spoiler:has a soul with two traits, which is unnecessary to the story and her blue hair doesn't even match the blue part of her soul.]]
** The reveal that a human sage can use [[BlackMagic forbidden magic]] to [[spoiler: invert their soul trait]], which is the ''sole reason'' why [[spoiler: Betty can even exist in the first place]].

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** Amber: a little girl who's body was used to create Betty [[spoiler:has a soul with two traits, which is unnecessary to the story and her blue hair doesn't even match the blue part of her soul.traits.]]
** The reveal that a human sage can use [[BlackMagic forbidden magic]] to [[spoiler: invert their soul trait]], trait, which is the ''sole reason'' why [[spoiler: Betty [[spoiler:Betty can even exist in the first place]].



** Rave's healing device, [[spoiler:which is introduced out of nowhere and effortlessly heals Ronan, saving him from what might have been fatal injuries obtained from Kumuzilla.]]
** In My Promise, [[spoiler: Betty and the corrupted Asriel]] are able to corner Frisk, Toriel and Asgore. We see a shot of [[spoiler: Asriel's lightning magic]], but it isn't explained how the three heroes were able to escape with only a few minor injuries simply through the use of a SmashToBlack.
** In Game Over: Part 2, Sans [[spoiler: suddenly wakes up from his coma]], even though Gaster ''explicitly stated'' that this was impossible [[FlipFlopOfGod just one episode prior]].
** In the Animosity trailer, Sans gives Papyrus a tearful line [[spoiler: about how he only has a short time left to live]], with a [[SoapOperaDisease condition]] that wouldn't be out of place within a ''melodramatic soap opera''.







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* CatharsisFactor:
** Undyne the Undying thrashing Betty in Love Part 1, manging to inflict a CurbStompBattle on her even after using HATE to give herself a power boost.
** [[spoiler:Gaster ''annihilating''' Betty in "Animosity" after Sans' FinalDeath, subjecting her to an even more severe CurbSompBattle than the above before giving her one of the most horrifying, brutal, and well-deserved deaths in the whole series. That he is the one to kill her is even more so as he is arguably Betty's biggest victim.]]


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** [[TheHero Copper Lightvale]] had an argument with his sister, [[BitchInSheepsClothing Agate]], about the Barrier which resulted in a fierce battle. He won, but [[HonorBeforeReason he chose to spare her and let her go]] instead of [[ProperlyParanoid imprisoning her]], [[MurderIsTheBestSolution killing her]], or taking ''literally any other action'', ''which comes back to bite and his younger sister in the ass later on''.

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** [[TheHero Copper Lightvale]] had an argument with his sister, [[BitchInSheepsClothing Agate]], about the Barrier which resulted in a fierce battle. He won, but [[HonorBeforeReason he chose to spare her and let her go]] instead of [[ProperlyParanoid imprisoning her]], [[MurderIsTheBestSolution killing her]], or taking ''literally any other action'', ''which comes back to bite him and his younger sister in the ass later on''.
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** The reveal that a human sage can use [[BlackMagic forbidden magic]] to [[spoiler: invert their soul trait]], which is the ''sole reason'' why [[spoiler: Betty can even exist in the first place]].



** Betty and Akumu [[spoiler:not merging back together after their true intentions are revealed to everyone.]]

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** Betty and Akumu [[spoiler:not merging back together after their true intentions are revealed to everyone.]]]]
** [[TheHero Copper Lightvale]] had an argument with his sister, [[BitchInSheepsClothing Agate]], about the Barrier which resulted in a fierce battle. He won, but [[HonorBeforeReason he chose to spare her and let her go]] instead of [[ProperlyParanoid imprisoning her]], [[MurderIsTheBestSolution killing her]], or taking ''literally any other action'', ''which comes back to bite and his younger sister in the ass later on''.
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** In My Promise, [[spoiler: Betty and the corrupted Asriel]] are able to corner Frisk, Toriel and Asgore. We see a shot of [[spoiler: Asriel's lightning magic]], but it isn't explained how the three heroes were able to escape with only a few minor injuries simply through the use of a SmashToBlack.
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* AngstAversion: Considering that Season 2 has a [[CharactersDroppingLikeFlies very long string of angsty yet pointless character deaths]], a ridiculously powerful OC villian [[CurbStompBattle who keeps thrashing the heroes over and over]] through a combination of PlotArmor and VillainExitStageLeft, and a group of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wangst angsty]], [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional heroes]] who [[WeAreStrugglingTogether waste so much time on arguing and bickering with each other]] that they can barely slow said villian down, a ''cynical'' viewer might actually wish for [[spoiler: Betty Noire]] [[BondVillainStupidity to hurry up]] and [[RootingForTheEmpire kill off all of the heroes]] already [[RocksFallEverybodyDies just to be done with it]].

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* AngstAversion: Considering that Season 2 has a [[CharactersDroppingLikeFlies very long string of angsty tragic yet pointless character deaths]], a ridiculously powerful OC villian [[CurbStompBattle who keeps thrashing the heroes over and over]] through a combination of PlotArmor and VillainExitStageLeft, and a group of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wangst angsty]], [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional heroes]] who [[WeAreStrugglingTogether waste so much time on arguing and bickering with each other]] that [[IdiotPlot they can barely slow said villian down, down]], a ''cynical'' viewer might actually wish for [[spoiler: Betty Noire]] [[BondVillainStupidity to hurry up]] and [[RootingForTheEmpire kill off all of the heroes]] already [[RocksFallEverybodyDies just to be done with it]].
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\n*AngstAversion: Considering that Season 2 has a [[CharactersDroppingLikeFlies very long string of angsty yet pointless character deaths]], a ridiculously powerful OC villian [[CurbStompBattle who keeps thrashing the heroes over and over]] through a combination of PlotArmor and VillainExitStageLeft, and a group of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wangst angsty]], [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional heroes]] who [[WeAreStrugglingTogether waste so much time on arguing and bickering with each other]] that they can barely slow said villian down, a ''cynical'' viewer might actually wish for [[spoiler: Betty Noire]] [[BondVillainStupidity to hurry up]] and [[RootingForTheEmpire kill off all of the heroes]] already [[RocksFallEverybodyDies just to be done with it]].
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** the Reveal that Gaster gains a huge power boost [[spoiler: if either of his children die]].

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** the The Reveal that Gaster gains a huge power boost [[spoiler: if either of his children die]].



** In the Animosity trailer, Sans gives Papyrus a tearful line [[spoiler: about how he only has a short time left to live]], with a [[SoapOperaDisease condition]] that wouldn't be out of place within a melodramatic ''soap opera''.





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** In the Animosity trailer, Sans gives Papyrus a tearful line [[spoiler: about how he only has a short time left to live]], with a [[SoapOperaDisease condition]] that wouldn't be out of place within a melodramatic ''soap ''melodramatic soap opera''.




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** The Reveal that Betty [[spoiler: has PsychicPowers that allow her to induce powerful hallucinations that ''simply can not be countered through conventional means'', resulting in a borderline StoryBreakerPower if she chose to use them ''any'' less sparingly]].

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* AssPull: There are quite a few in season 2:

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* AssPull: There are quite ''quite a few few'' in season Season 2:



** The reveal that Betty is [[spoiler: an artificial being that is neither human nor monster, which allows her (and Akumu) to shrug off the Nullifier's effects [[NoSell without a scratch]]]].

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** the Reveal that Gaster gains a huge power boost [[spoiler: if either of his children die]].
** The reveal Reveal that Betty is [[spoiler: an artificial being that is neither human nor monster, which allows her (and Akumu) to shrug off the Nullifier's effects [[NoSell without a scratch]]]].


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** Frisk reveals that they can increase their Level of Violence [[spoiler: through cruel words instead of killing people]].
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**In Game Over: Part 2, Sans [[spoiler: suddenly wakes up from his coma]], even though Gaster ''explicitly stated'' that this was impossible [[FlipFlopOfGod just one episode prior]].
**In the Animosity trailer, Sans gives Papyrus a tearful line [[spoiler: about how he only has a short time left to live]], with a [[SoapOperaDisease condition]] that wouldn't be out of place within a melodramatic ''soap opera''.




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** The reveal that the Soul of Integrity just so happened to be [[OneDegreeOfSeparation the daughter of Jessica Grey]], which conveniently [[RuleOfDrama ruins]] a series of peace talks between humans and monsters.
** Jessica Grey happens to own a soul-powered energy gun that allows her to [[spoiler: nullify Sans's magic twice.]]
** Shortly after [[spoiler: Betty reveals her true colors]], Gaster ''conveniently'' reveals that he and Alphys have been been working on a secret weapon called the Nullifier, which is stated [[ExactWords to be able to destroy any human or monster]]. This weapon is also housed within a large empty room that becomes a very convenient backdrop for [[spoiler: the fight between Gaster and Betty]].
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** Amber: a little girl who's body was used to create Betty [[spoiler:has a soul with two traits, which is unnecessary to the story.]]

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** What if Undyne became an amalgamate instead of returning to normal, after her first battle with Betty?

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** Amber: a little girl who's body was used to create Betty [[spoiler:has a soul with two traits, which is unnecessary to the story.]]
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** What if Asriel became Flowey again instead of turning to dust when Betty stole his new soul and Chara gets revived and corrupted by Betty, since Asriel's new soul is technically Chara's soul: Imagine the possibilities!
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** Betty betraying Jessica, because the woman refused to give the pink child the hate vial. If Betty didn't betray Jessica, Betty could have used the AMD's power to reach her goals. But her betrayal comes back to haunt her later.

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