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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Say what you will about the {{Gorn}}, it's still some of the most detailed and realistically drawn {{Gorn}} in cartoon history. The first person shot of the Genocyber tearing an android in half is especially jaw-dropping with both the frame count and the level of detail present. The mechanical designs are also genuinely impressive; the Genocyber itself looks like the ''Manga/{{Guyver}}'' as interpreted by Creator/RobLiefeld, and then ''re-''interpreted by somebody who can actually draw.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Say what you will about the {{Gorn}}, it's still some of the most detailed and realistically drawn {{Gorn}} in cartoon history. The first person shot of the Genocyber tearing an android in half is especially jaw-dropping with both the frame count and the level of detail present. The mechanical designs are also genuinely impressive; the Genocyber itself looks like the ''Manga/{{Guyver}}'' as interpreted by Creator/RobLiefeld, and then ''re-''interpreted by somebody who can actually draw.Creator/RobLiefeld.

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* SoBleakItsBoring: The extremely graphic and disturbing violence, lack of any genuinely likable characters and incredibly nihilistic tone ended up turning a large number of people away from this series.


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The extremely graphic and disturbing violence, lack of any genuinely likable characters and incredibly nihilistic tone ended up turning a large number of people away from this series.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The extremely graphic and disturbing violence, lack of any genuinely likable characters and incredibly nihilistic tone ended up turning a large number of people away from this series.


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* SoBleakItsBoring: The extremely graphic and disturbing violence, lack of any genuinely likable characters and incredibly nihilistic tone ended up turning a large number of people away from this series.
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* CatharsisFactor: The [[HateSink teenage thug gang-leader]] from episode 1 is a rotten scumbag in every-way. He beats up Diana's young male friend, often for no reason at all, and later on when he and his two henchmen encounter Elaine and her friend, he sexually harasses Elaine and gets his two henchmen sexually ''molest'' Elaine's friend, so when Diana comes and murders the gang-leader stabbing him in the face with her claws before throwing him against a wall, it's pretty damn satisfying.

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* CatharsisFactor: The [[HateSink teenage thug gang-leader]] from episode 1 is a rotten scumbag in every-way. He beats up Diana's young male friend, often for no reason at all, and later on when he and his two henchmen encounter Elaine and her friend, he sexually harasses Elaine and gets his two henchmen sexually ''molest'' Elaine's friend, so when Diana comes in and murders the gang-leader by stabbing him in the face with her claws before throwing him against a wall, it's pretty damn satisfying.
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* CatharsisFactor: The [[HateSink teenage thug gang-leader]] from episode 1 is a rotten scumbag in every-way. He beats up Diana's young male friend, often for reason, and later on when he and his two henchmen encounter Elaine and her friend, he sexually harasses Elaine and gets his two henchmen sexually ''molest'' Elaine's friend, so when Diana comes and murders the gang-leader stabbing him in the face with her claws before throwing him against a wall, it's pretty damn satisfying.

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* CatharsisFactor: The [[HateSink teenage thug gang-leader]] from episode 1 is a rotten scumbag in every-way. He beats up Diana's young male friend, often for reason, no reason at all, and later on when he and his two henchmen encounter Elaine and her friend, he sexually harasses Elaine and gets his two henchmen sexually ''molest'' Elaine's friend, so when Diana comes and murders the gang-leader stabbing him in the face with her claws before throwing him against a wall, it's pretty damn satisfying.
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* CatharsisFactor: The [[HateSink teenage thug gang-leader]] from episode 1 is a rotten scumbag in every-way. He beats up Diana's young male friend, often for reason, and later on when he and his two henchmen encounter Elaine and her friend, he sexually harasses Elaine and gets his two henchmen sexually ''molest'' Elaine's friend, so when Diana comes and murders the gang-leader stabbing him in the face with her claws before throwing him against a wall, it's pretty damn satisfying.
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* NoExportForYou: For unknown reasons, the last two episodes of the series were never released in the UK.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The third arc, due to the TimeSkip, MindScrew, GainaxEnding, atrocious dubbing, and most of the story following a relative bland couple, is the most hated part. The violence and infamous {{Gorn}} is also toned down significantly, for the viewers [[JustHereForGodzilla mostly interested in that]].

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The third arc, due to the TimeSkip, MindScrew, GainaxEnding, atrocious dubbing, and most of the story following a relative bland couple, is the most hated part. The violence and infamous {{Gorn}} is also toned down significantly, for the viewers [[JustHereForGodzilla mostly interested in that]]. It may also explain why the last two episodes were never released in the UK, and why Manga UK refused to include them.

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* CompleteMonster (anime):
** [[MadScientist Dr. Kenneth Reed]], [[AdaptationalVillainy in contrast to his kindhearted manga counterpart]], was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters [[SuperSoldiers for his own research]]. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular [[PersonOfMassDestruction Genocyber]], destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.
** [[MayorPain Mayor Grimson Rockwell]] is the {{corrupt|Politician}}, smug leader of the City of the Grand Ark, using his influence to cruelly keep most of the citizens as abused, starving slave labor while his upper class elite throw hedonistic parties, engaging in torture and [[HumanTrafficking trafficking]] of lower class civilians. When a large group of people try to rebel against Rockwell, he orders them massacred and thrown into mass graves before [[BadBoss executing his own security chief]] for moving too slow in carrying out the exterminations. Rockwell's greatest act of villainy comes when he learns of a church taking in orphaned children and spreading the word of God and, declaring them to be a threat to his rule, has them all slaughtered in machine gunfire, leading to dozens of defenseless men, women and [[WouldHurtAChild orphan children]] being killed where they stand in the church.

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* CompleteMonster (anime):
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** Original manga: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Garnes Back]] is the development division manager of Tron Dynamic Corp. Seeking to use Professor Morgan's psychic teenage daughters Elaine and Diana for his own purposes, Garnes has his men sneak into Morgan's laboratory to kidnap him and his daughters, killing three guards in the process. Forcing Morgan to collaborate with him by threatening to either gun him down or kill his daughters first, Garnes allows Professor Kenneth Reed to [[PlayingWithSyringes painfully experiment on Elaine]] in order to awaken her PsychicPowers.
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[[MadScientist Dr. Kenneth Reed]], [[AdaptationalVillainy in contrast to even worse than his kindhearted manga counterpart]], was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters [[SuperSoldiers for his own research]]. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular [[PersonOfMassDestruction Genocyber]], destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.
** *** [[MayorPain Mayor Grimson Rockwell]] is the {{corrupt|Politician}}, smug leader of the City of the Grand Ark, using his influence to cruelly keep most of the citizens as abused, starving slave labor while his upper class elite throw hedonistic parties, engaging in torture and [[HumanTrafficking trafficking]] of lower class civilians. When a large group of people try to rebel against Rockwell, he orders them massacred and thrown into mass graves before [[BadBoss executing his own security chief]] for moving too slow in carrying out the exterminations. Rockwell's greatest act of villainy comes when he learns of a church taking in orphaned children and spreading the word of God and, declaring them to be a threat to his rule, has them all slaughtered in machine gunfire, leading to dozens of defenseless men, women and [[WouldHurtAChild orphan children]] being killed where they stand in the church.
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** The scene in which one of the teenagers try to rape Elaine while the other two pull down the boy's pants and [[GroinAttack grab his penis.]] The molestation is bad enough in the original, where the boy is merely squeaking in discomfort, but in the dub he is horrifically ''screaming'' in pain.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The third arc, due to the TimeSkip, MindScrew, GainaxEnding, atrocious dubbing, and most of the story following a relative bland couple, is the most hated part. The violence and infamous {{Gorn}} is also toned down significantly, for the viewers [[JustHereForGodzilla mostly interested in that.]]

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** The scene in which one of the teenagers try tries to rape Elaine while the other two pull down the boy's pants and [[GroinAttack grab his penis.]] penis]]. The molestation is bad enough in the original, where the boy is merely squeaking in discomfort, but in the dub he is horrifically ''screaming'' in pain.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The third arc, due to the TimeSkip, MindScrew, GainaxEnding, atrocious dubbing, and most of the story following a relative bland couple, is the most hated part. The violence and infamous {{Gorn}} is also toned down significantly, for the viewers [[JustHereForGodzilla mostly interested in that.]]that]].



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The scenes with Elaine and the boy she befriends are exceptionally well animated, and legitimately poignant. WebVideo/BennettTheSage points out if the anime had focused on developing their relationship, and not the extreme {{Gorn}}, ''Genocyber'' might have been something quite different than what its reputation holds it to be (Read: Mecha ''Manga/ElfenLied'').

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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The scenes with Elaine and the boy she befriends are exceptionally well animated, and legitimately poignant. WebVideo/BennettTheSage points out if the anime had focused on developing their relationship, and not the extreme {{Gorn}}, ''Genocyber'' might have been something quite different than what its reputation holds it to be (Read: Mecha ''Manga/ElfenLied'').
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: The first three episodes have a pretty good dub from Manga UK, and most of the voice actors seem to be taking their roles seriously. The same cannot not be said for the dub of the last two episodes, which was dubbed by a different studio (Central Park Media), where most of the voice actors just phone in their performances with no real effort.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: The first three episodes have a pretty good dub from Manga UK, and most of the voice actors seem to be taking their roles seriously. The same cannot not be said for the dub of the last two episodes, which was dubbed by a different studio (Central Park Media), where Creator/CentralParkMedia. Par for the course with CPM, most of the voice actors just phone in their performances with no real effort.


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* HolyShitQuotient: Say what you will about the series itself, it will make your jaw ''plummet''.
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* {{Narm}}: The shredded children.

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* {{Narm}}: The shredded children.children, for some.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Without a doubt the most nihilistic anime series ever made. From the incredibly explicit scenes of gore, to the very strong theme of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Without a doubt the most nihilistic anime series ever made. From the incredibly explicit scenes of gore, to the very strong theme of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.HumansAreTheRealMonsters, it ends up holding a special place in fans hearts precisely because of it.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Say what you will about the {{Gorn}}, it's still some of the most detailed and realistically drawn {{Gorn}} in cartoon history. The mechanical designs are also genuinely impressive; the Genocyber itself looks like the ''Manga/{{Guyver}}'' as interpreted by Creator/RobLiefeld, and then ''re-''interpreted by somebody who can actually draw.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Say what you will about the {{Gorn}}, it's still some of the most detailed and realistically drawn {{Gorn}} in cartoon history. The first person shot of the Genocyber tearing an android in half is especially jaw-dropping with both the frame count and the level of detail present. The mechanical designs are also genuinely impressive; the Genocyber itself looks like the ''Manga/{{Guyver}}'' as interpreted by Creator/RobLiefeld, and then ''re-''interpreted by somebody who can actually draw.

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* CompleteMonster: In the anime, [[MadScientist Dr. Kenneth Reed]], [[AdaptationalVillainy in contrast to his kindhearted manga counterpart]], was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters [[SuperSoldiers for his own research]]. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular [[PersonOfMassDestruction Genocyber]], destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.

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* CompleteMonster: In the anime, CompleteMonster (anime):
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[[MadScientist Dr. Kenneth Reed]], [[AdaptationalVillainy in contrast to his kindhearted manga counterpart]], was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters [[SuperSoldiers for his own research]]. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular [[PersonOfMassDestruction Genocyber]], destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.process.
** [[MayorPain Mayor Grimson Rockwell]] is the {{corrupt|Politician}}, smug leader of the City of the Grand Ark, using his influence to cruelly keep most of the citizens as abused, starving slave labor while his upper class elite throw hedonistic parties, engaging in torture and [[HumanTrafficking trafficking]] of lower class civilians. When a large group of people try to rebel against Rockwell, he orders them massacred and thrown into mass graves before [[BadBoss executing his own security chief]] for moving too slow in carrying out the exterminations. Rockwell's greatest act of villainy comes when he learns of a church taking in orphaned children and spreading the word of God and, declaring them to be a threat to his rule, has them all slaughtered in machine gunfire, leading to dozens of defenseless men, women and [[WouldHurtAChild orphan children]] being killed where they stand in the church.
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* EightDeadlyWords: A major criticism the series has received is its lack of likable or interesting characters. One half of the characterization in Genocyber consists of unsympathetic, selfish, corrupt or completely loathsome people, and the other half of characters that are actually decent people have no depth or personality to make the viewers care about them. That, combined with the lack of plot, needlessly grotesque violence and incredibly nihilistic tone all make it virtually impossible to get invested in this series.

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* CompleteMonster: In the anime, [[MadScientist Dr.]] [[AdaptationalVillainy Kenneth]] [[AdaptationPersonalityChange Reed]], contrast to his kind-hearted manga counterpart, was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters for his own research. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular Genocyber, destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.

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* CompleteMonster: *CompleteMonster: In the anime, [[MadScientist Dr.]] Dr. Kenneth Reed]], [[AdaptationalVillainy Kenneth]] [[AdaptationPersonalityChange Reed]], in contrast to his kind-hearted kindhearted manga counterpart, counterpart]], was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters [[SuperSoldiers for his own research.research]]. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular Genocyber, [[PersonOfMassDestruction Genocyber]], destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.
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** The show as a whole has a very interesting concept and the potential to be something awesome. Unfortunately, the writers chose to focus more on making the show as violent and disturbing as possible, rather than focusing on character depth and making the actual story interesting and suspenseful.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: The first three episodes have a pretty good dub from Manga UK, and most of the voice actors seem to be taking their roles seriously. The same cannot not be said for the dub of the last 2 episodes, which was dubbed by a different studio (Central Park Media), where most of the voice actors just phone in their performances with no real effort.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: The first three episodes have a pretty good dub from Manga UK, and most of the voice actors seem to be taking their roles seriously. The same cannot not be said for the dub of the last 2 two episodes, which was dubbed by a different studio (Central Park Media), where most of the voice actors just phone in their performances with no real effort.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: The first three episodes have a pretty good dub from Manga UK, and most of the voice actors seem to be taking their roles seriously. The same cannot not be said for the dub of the last 2 episodes, which was dubbed by a different studio (Central Park Media), where most of the voice actors just phone in their performances with no real effort.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Without a doubt the most nihilistic anime series ever made. From the incredibly explicit scenes of gore, to the very strong theme of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.
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* EightDeadlyWords: A major criticism the series has received is its lack of likable or interesting characters. One half of the characterization in Genocyber are unsympathetic, selfish, corrupt or completely loathsome people, and the characters that are actually decent people have no depth or personality to make the viewers care about them. That, combined with the lack of plot, needlessly grotesque violence and incredibly nihilistic tone all make it virtually impossible to get invested in this series.

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* EightDeadlyWords: A major criticism the series has received is its lack of likable or interesting characters. One half of the characterization in Genocyber are consists of unsympathetic, selfish, corrupt or completely loathsome people, and the other half of characters that are actually decent people have no depth or personality to make the viewers care about them. That, combined with the lack of plot, needlessly grotesque violence and incredibly nihilistic tone all make it virtually impossible to get invested in this series.
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* EightDeadlyWords: A major criticism the series has received is its lack of likable or interesting characters. One half of the characterization in Genocyber are unsympathetic, selfish, corrupt or completely loathsome people, and the characters that are actually decent people have no depth or personality to make the viewers care about them. That, combined with the lack of plot, needlessly grotesque violence and incredibly nihilistic tone all make it virtually impossible to get invested in this series.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The extremely graphic and disturbing violence, lack of any genuinely likable characters and incredibly nihilistic tone ended up turning most people away from this series.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The extremely graphic and disturbing violence, lack of any genuinely likable characters and incredibly nihilistic tone ended up turning most a large number of people away from this series.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The extremely graphic and disturbing violence, lack of any genuinely likable characters and incredibly nihilistic tone ended up turning most people away from this series.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Say what you will about the {{Gorn}}, it's still some of the most detailed and realistically drawn {{Gorn}} in cartoon history. The mechanical designs are also genuinely impressive; the Genocyber itself looks like the Manga/{{Guyver}} as interpreted by Creator/RobLiefeld, and then ''re-''interpreted by somebody who can actually draw.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The ED, Fairy [[https://youtu.be/ad1bBoiPkQc Dreaming]].

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Say what you will about the {{Gorn}}, it's still some of the most detailed and realistically drawn {{Gorn}} in cartoon history. The mechanical designs are also genuinely impressive; the Genocyber itself looks like the Manga/{{Guyver}} ''Manga/{{Guyver}}'' as interpreted by Creator/RobLiefeld, and then ''re-''interpreted by somebody who can actually draw.
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The ED, Fairy [[https://youtu.be/ad1bBoiPkQc Dreaming]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: Crossed in the first episode at the hospital scene, or alternatively in the second episode at the infamous "shredded children" scene; it certainly makes you feel much less sympathy for the soldiers when they start bursting into LudicrousGibs.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Crossed in the first episode by Dr. Kenneth Reed and his men at the hospital scene, or alternatively the soldiers cross it in the second episode at in the infamous "shredded children" scene; it certainly makes you feel much less sympathy for the soldiers when they start bursting into LudicrousGibs.
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* CompleteMonster: [[MadScientist Dr.]] [[AdaptationalVillainy Kenneth]] [[AdaptationPersonalityChange Reed]] was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters for his own research. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular Genocyber, destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.

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* CompleteMonster: In the anime, [[MadScientist Dr.]] [[AdaptationalVillainy Kenneth]] [[AdaptationPersonalityChange Reed]] Reed]], contrast to his kind-hearted manga counterpart, was an amoral research assistant to Dr. Nguyen Morgan. Arranging for Morgan and his wife to die, Kenneth takes their super-powered daughters for his own research. When a detective helping the girls hides them in a hospital, Kenneth and his goons slaughter the entire building, gruesomely eviscerating the detective. Even as he dies, Kenneth watches with glee as the girls merge into the titular Genocyber, destroying Hong Kong and killing millions in the process.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The third arc, due to the TimeSkip, MindScrew, GainaxEnding, and atrocious dubbing, is the most hated part.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The third arc, due to the TimeSkip, MindScrew, GainaxEnding, and atrocious dubbing, and most of the story following a relative bland couple, is the most hated part.part. The violence and infamous {{Gorn}} is also toned down significantly, for the viewers [[JustHereForGodzilla mostly interested in that.]]

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