History YMMV / GameOfThronesS6E3Oathbreaker

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Alliser Thorne’s last words are meant to show how he only did what he thought was right for the Watch and he does face death with dignity. The thing is Thorne is a despicable man who is shown to have a deep hatred for all wildlings. He can’t even let go of his hatred even when both Lord Commanders plus many other men have seen the Army of the Dead and that if they left them to die they would only come back worse. Also his statement that the wildlings are an army of murderers and raiders is hypocritical considering that most of the men of the Night’s Watch are rapists and murderers. So Thorne comes off as more of a petty, racist, short-sighted traitor than as a man who was doing what he believed was right. Besides considering who he was, his death is pretty much deserved and satisfying.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Adapting out the Yunkai and Astapor conflict made Daenerys rule more incompetent than in the books and many fans were upset of the watered down politics of Mereen's arc. The fact that the Sons of Harpy are actually funded by those two and Volantis explains why they are more of a threat and arguably make a better plot than hiring a bunch of private armies to brute force the Mother of Dragons.

* TheUntwist: Nobody even bothers making secret that Robert Strong, the newest member of the Kingsguard, is in fact Ser Gregor Clegane who was resurrected as an undead knight. Likewise, unlike in the books Clegane's head isn't sent to Dorne after he died, removing whatever mystery and reason there would be to keep Robert Strong's identity secret.

* HilariousInHindsight: In a Pitch BlackComedy kind of way, Shaggydog's life truly was a ShaggyDogStory.

* InternetBackdraft: Due to the direwolves' massive fan following, Shaggydog's unceremonial DeathByAdaptation was quickly met by a huge across-the-board backlash on social media.

* Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Alliser Thorne’s last words are meant to show how he only did what he thought was right for the Watch and he does face death with dignity. The thing is Thorne is a despicable man who is shown to have a deep hatred for all wildlings. He can’t even let go of his hatred even when both Lord Commanders plus many other men have seen the Army of the Dead and that if they left them to die they would only come back worse. Also his statement that the wildlings are an army of murderers and raiders is hypocritical considering that most of the men of the Night’s Watch are rapists and murderers. So Thorne comes off as more of a petty, racist, short-sighted traitor than as a man who was doing what he believed was right. Besides considering who he was, his death is pretty much deserved and satisfying.

*** The showrunners in the inside the episode as well as Bran consider finding out the truth of Arthur Dayne's death a BrokenPedestal moment and intend it to be a mythbusting take on Ned's honour. However, it is possible to consider Dayne as being the less honorable as he winds up dual wielding while at one point Ned only has a single sword.[[labelnote: From the books]]The code of chivalry in the books in the case of duels and general conduct is to fight an opponent with the same weapons and armour. Ser Arthur in the books was famous for telling a disarmed opponent to pick up a sword and continue to fight after disarming him and was seriously into the knightly ethos. In addition to using DualWielding against an opponent with a single sword, Arthur also wears a helmet against an opponent who fights without one, when the honorable course would have been to remove his helmet. One duel in the novels, shows a challenger removing his additional armour after seeing his opponent wearing lighter armour without helm[[/labelnote]]. Some point out that DualWielding is generally not as effective in battle and doesn't actually convey any special advantages, and Dayne's use of swords is not a reflection on his character. Others point out that it runs more on RuleOfCool since the scene in question is staged with HollywoodTactics (Ned and Howland Reed and two of their companions not wearing any helmets), with the lack of realism leaving it ambiguous on what they can infer from it.

* HesJustHiding: Due to the wolves popularity and the small size of the head presented to Ramsay, some people have theorized that Shaggydog is still alive and that the Umbers used an ordinary wolf head as part of a plan. Likely just wishful thinking, but this episode does largely focus on a character who came BackFromTheDead.

*** Also, in medieval times, and in the modern age, attacking from behind while both sides are in active combat is not backstabbing. It's a ''very common'' tactic known as "'''''flanking'''''". The only way it could be construed as an unfair attack is if Arthur's supporters claimed that Arthur didn't know Reed was still alive, and only then shakily.

*** Also, in medieval times, and in the modern age, attacking from behind while both sides are in active combat is not backstabbing. It's a ''very common'' tactic known as '''''"flanking"'''''. The only way it could be construed as an unfair attack is if Arthur's supporters claimed that Arthur didn't know Reed was still alive, and only then shakily.

* FandomBerserkButton: Due to the direwolves' massive fan following, Shaggydog's unceremonial DeathByAdaptation was quickly met by a huge across-the-board backlash on social media.

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Arthur Dayne's fight.
** The showrunners in the inside the episode as well as Bran consider finding out the truth of Arthur Dayne's death a BrokenPedestal moment and intend it to be a mythbusting take on Ned's honour. However, it is possible to consider Dayne as being the less honorable as he winds up dual wielding while at one point Ned only has a single sword.[[labelnote: From the books]]The code of chivalry in the books in the case of duels and general conduct is to fight an opponent with the same weapons and armour. Ser Arthur in the books was famous for telling a disarmed opponent to pick up a sword and continue to fight after disarming him and was seriously into the knightly ethos. In addition to using DualWielding against an opponent with a single sword, Arthur also wears a helmet against an opponent who fights without one, when the honorable course would have been to remove his helmet. One duel in the novels, shows a challenger removing his additional armour after seeing his opponent wearing lighter armour without helm[[/labelnote]]. Some point out that DualWielding is generally not as effective in battle and doesn't actually convey any special advantages, and Dayne's use of swords is not a reflection on his character. Others point out that it runs more on RuleOfCool since the scene in question is staged with HollywoodTactics (Ned and Howland Reed and two of their companions not wearing any helmets), with the lack of realism leaving it ambiguous on what they can infer from it.
** Some fans also wonder if Ned Stark actually boasted about beating Arthur Dayne which to many is out of character on his part, or that he merely let other people assume that he did and never actually conveyed the full details. Bran does confirm that Ned told him Ser Arthur was the greatest swordsman he ever faced and that Howland Reed saved his life, both of which are true, but he undoubtedly never told him the true context.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Adapting out the Yunkai and Astapor's conflict made Daenerys rule more incompetent than in the books and many fans were upset of the watered down politics of Mereen's arc. The fact that the Sons of Harpy are actually funded by those two and Volantis explains why they are more of a threat and arguably make a better plot than hiring a bunch of private armies to brute force the Mother of Dragons.
* FandomBerserkButton: Due to the direwolves' massive fan following, Shaggydog's unceremonial DeathByAdaptation was quickly met by a huge accross-the-board backlash on social media.
* HesJustHiding: Due to the wolves popularity and the small size of the head presented to Ramsay, some people have theorized that Shaggydog is still alive and that the Umbers used an ordinary wolf head as part of a plan. Likely just wishful thinking but this episode does largely focus on a character who came BackFromTheDead.

* TheUntwist: Nobody even bothers making secret that Robert Strong, the newest member of the Kingsguard is in fact Ser Gregor Clegane who was resurrected as an undead knight. Likewise, unlike in the books Clegane's head isn't sent to Dorne after he died, removing whatever mystery and reason there would be to keep Robert Strong's identity secret.