History YMMV / Frankenstein

15th May '17 2:31:56 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: The intended Aesop of the story was not to play God, but it is very easy to - see Broken Aesop below - instead come to the conclusion of much better Aesop being to take responsibility for your actions.

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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: The intended Aesop of the story was not to play God, but it is very easy to - see Broken Aesop below - instead come to the conclusion of much better Aesop being to take responsibility for your actions.



* BrokenAesop: On the surface, the novel appears to espouse the fairly anvilicious message that humans are not supposed to play God. Victor Frankenstein himself expressly says it was wrong to create human-like life the artificial way. However the humanoid he created was much smarter, picking up language at an alarming rate, stronger, faster (in the novel at least), and (initally) more moral than most normal humans. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil His evil nature only grew out of his constant abuse at the hands of humans who were too terrified to give him a chance and from Victor's hatred and neglect]]. The tragedy is that all the bloodshed caused by the creature could easily have been avoided had Victor Frankenstein taken care of his creation instead of leaving it to die. Indeed, anything more than just cruelly abandoning the newborn confused creature would have helped greatly. He also could have put in the extra effort to make his creation look more acceptable to humans. The humans he approached could have given him a chance instead of beating him up, or the creature could have realized how horribly superficial humans are and worn a mask when he approached them. Even if Victor Frankenstein had simply kept his word to create a companion for his creature and simply rendered her infertile most of the deaths could have been averted.
19th Apr '17 4:00:07 AM Vampireandthen
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Creature/Adam Frankenstein/The Monster, whatever you want to call him. In most adaptions of Mary Shelly's novel, he often does get treated much more sympathetically, most notably in the original film, which makes him into a clueless monster which doesn't know its own strength. In the novel itself, he kills a fair number of Victor's loved ones, and is much smarter, perhaps on par with Victor. To be fair, he does feel rather bad at the end, and decides to commit suicide.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Creature/Adam Frankenstein/The Monster, whatever you want to call him. In most adaptions of Mary Shelly's novel, he often does get treated much more sympathetically, most notably in the original film, which makes him into a clueless monster which doesn't know its own strength. In the novel itself, [[spoiler: he kills a fair number of Victor's loved ones, and is much smarter, perhaps on par with Victor. To be fair, he does feel rather bad at the end, and decides to commit suicide.]]


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** [[spoiler:Victor destroying the body of the Creature's mate, ''right in front of him,'' can be seen as this.]]
19th Apr '17 3:57:18 AM Vampireandthen
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Creature/Adam Frankenstein/The Monster, whatever you want to call him. In most adaptions of Mary Shelly's novel, he often does get treated much more sympathetically, most notably in the original film, which makes him into a clueless monster which doesn't know its own strength. In the novel itself, he kills a fair number of Victor's loved ones, and is much smarter, perhaps on par with Victor. To be fair, he does feel rather bad at the end, and decides to commit suicide.
19th Apr '17 3:47:52 AM Vampireandthen
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* IAmNotShazam: Many people call Frankenstein's Monster "Frankenstein", while he actually has no name. "Frankenstein" is the name of his maker, Victor Frankenstein. But we can probably blame Mary Shelley for that; it would be a lot clearer to all if she'd called her novel "Doctor Frankenstein". This confusion dates back nearly as far as the novel itself, and became established during periods when the actual book was out of print, but its characters and plot were being emulated by stage plays, knockoffs and parodies throughout the pre-copyright 19th century. Ironically, since one could argue that Frankenstein is the "father" of the creature, you could say that the creature's last name ''is'' Frankenstein.

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* IAmNotShazam: Many people call Frankenstein's Monster "Frankenstein", while he actually has no name. "Frankenstein" is the name of his maker, Victor Frankenstein. But we can probably blame Mary Shelley for that; it would be a lot clearer to all if she'd called her novel "Doctor Frankenstein". This confusion dates back nearly as far as the novel itself, and became established during periods when the actual book was out of print, but its characters and plot were being emulated by stage plays, knockoffs and parodies throughout the pre-copyright 19th century. Ironically, since one could argue that Frankenstein is the "father" of the creature, you could say that the creature's last name ''is'' Frankenstein.
Frankenstein. Mary Shelly referred to the Monster as Adam in letters to her friends, which does make some sense, seeing as it is the first of its kind.
4th Mar '17 10:32:17 PM mlsmithca
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Oh come on, a race spawned from the Creature and a manmade Bride would have been ''awesome''. But, alas, Frankenstein [[spoiler:had to destroy her body before she could be awakened.]]
** Though, not to be ''that guy,'' Shelley was probably more concerned with [[AnAesop her story's message]] than [[SoCoolItsAwesome a rad story.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Oh come on, a race spawned from the Creature and a manmade Bride would have been ''awesome''. But, alas, Frankenstein [[spoiler:had to destroy her body before she could be awakened.]]
** Though, not to be ''that guy,''
]] Though Shelley was probably more concerned with [[AnAesop her story's message]] than [[SoCoolItsAwesome a rad story.]]



12th Feb '17 9:42:49 AM Cieloazul
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* 'Who is the real monster?' Is it Victor for be irresponsible and neglectful to his creation and then refusing to create a companion for him, inadvertently leading to the monster killing his friends and family? Or is it the monster, for actually causing the deaths?

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* 'Who ** Who is the real monster?' monster? Is it Victor for be irresponsible and neglectful to his creation and then refusing to create a companion for him, inadvertently leading to the monster killing his friends and family? Or is it the monster, for actually causing the deaths? deaths?
** In a meta example, ''Mary Shelley herself''. When she gave birth to a premature child, her husband rejected him and instead left for an affair with Shelley's stepsister. Moreover, the character of Victor Frankenstein shares a lot of bio details with Percy Shelley, including his interest for chemistry and his experiments in college. Considering those reasons, many people have come to believe the entire story was actually an elaborated, well-argumented TakeThat from Mary to her husband.
13th Jan '17 8:06:23 AM MrReviser121
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* {{Wangst}}: Once Frankenstein starts kicking himself over having made Creature and Creature's actions, the emotions he expresses can seem so [[PurpleProse overwrought]] that they become wangst. This is especially true considering his until-now perfect life that only falls apart because of his own stupidity.

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* {{Wangst}}: Once Frankenstein starts kicking himself over having made the Creature and the Creature's actions, the emotions he expresses can seem so [[PurpleProse overwrought]] that they become wangst. This is especially true considering his until-now perfect life that only falls apart because of his own stupidity.




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* WhatAnIdiot: Victor decides to [[spoiler: destroy the body of the companion he's making for the creature]] in order to [[spoiler: prevent more monsters from being created.]] However, [[spoiler: he does this ''right in front'' of the creature,]] who we all know is capable of murder.
13th Jan '17 7:54:32 AM MrReviser121
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* 'Who is the real monster?' Is it Victor for be irresponsible and neglectful to his creation and then refusing to create a companion for him, inadvertently leading to the monster killing his friends and family? Or is it the monster, for actually causing the deaths?
31st Dec '16 12:08:57 AM Segal991
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* JerkassWoobie: The monster may have killed many people, but he has quite a sad backstory.
17th Dec '16 8:07:41 AM ironballs16
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* BrokenAesop: On the surface, the novel appears to espouse the fairly anvilicious message that humans are not supposed to play God. Victor Frankenstein himself expressly says it was wrong to create human-like life the artificial way. However the humanoid he created was much smarter, picking up language at an alarming rate, stronger, faster (in the novel at least), and (initally) more moral than most normal humans. His evil nature only grew out of his constant abuse at the hands of humans who were too terrified to give him a chance and from Victor's hatred and neglect. The tragedy is that all the bloodshed caused by the creature could easily have been avoided had Victor Frankenstein taken care of his creation instead of leaving it to die. Indeed, anything more than just cruelly abandoning the newborn confused creature would have helped greatly. He also could have put in the extra effort to make his creation look more acceptable to humans. The humans he approached could have given him a chance instead of beating him up, or the creature could have realized how horribly superficial humans are and worn a mask when he approached them. Even if Victor Frankenstein had simply kept his word to create a companion for his creature and simply rendered her infertile most of the deaths could have been averted.

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* BrokenAesop: On the surface, the novel appears to espouse the fairly anvilicious message that humans are not supposed to play God. Victor Frankenstein himself expressly says it was wrong to create human-like life the artificial way. However the humanoid he created was much smarter, picking up language at an alarming rate, stronger, faster (in the novel at least), and (initally) more moral than most normal humans. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil His evil nature only grew out of his constant abuse at the hands of humans who were too terrified to give him a chance and from Victor's hatred and neglect.neglect]]. The tragedy is that all the bloodshed caused by the creature could easily have been avoided had Victor Frankenstein taken care of his creation instead of leaving it to die. Indeed, anything more than just cruelly abandoning the newborn confused creature would have helped greatly. He also could have put in the extra effort to make his creation look more acceptable to humans. The humans he approached could have given him a chance instead of beating him up, or the creature could have realized how horribly superficial humans are and worn a mask when he approached them. Even if Victor Frankenstein had simply kept his word to create a companion for his creature and simply rendered her infertile most of the deaths could have been averted.
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