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As far as I can tell, critics and audiences hated it at the time too, so Condemned By History can't apply.
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* CondemnedByHistory: Lots of the "farce" sex comedies of this era have been brutally and understandably ripped apart by modern audiences, and this film is no different. While it was a box office success, it's reviled by critics and audiences alike, not even being able to hold onto a 5.0 rating (out of 10) on [=IMDB=] and low scores on Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. However, this one stands out given just how unacceptable the [[spoiler: the rape scene is, and the characters' reactions (or lack thereof) to what is 100% confirmed '''sexual assault.''']]
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* CondemnedByHistory: Lots of the "farce" sex comedies of this era have been brutally and understandably ripped apart by modern audiences, and this film is no different. While it was a box office success, it's reviled by critics and audiences alike, not even being able to hold onto a 5.0 rating (out of 10) on [=IMDB=] and low scores on Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. However, this one stands out given just how unacceptable the [[spoiler: the rape scene is, and the characters' reactions (or lack thereof) to what is 100% confirmed '''sexual assault.''']]
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* {{Squick}}: Matt's EroticDream about Erica is completely ruined by shots of [[spoiler:Nicole raping him in reality]].
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* {{Squick}}: Matt's EroticDream about Erica is completely ruined by shots of [[spoiler:Nicole raping him in reality]]. The giant field of breasts is also pretty freaking gross too.
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15943768520A49909700&page=74#1841
Since the scene was controversial at the time of release, it doesn't count as Values Dissonance.
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* ValuesDissonance: The movie was controversial in it's original release for downplaying [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale a woman blatantly raping a man]], but the post-[=#MeToo=] world might as well consider it a hate crime. Rob Perez getting into fights with Reddit users during an AMA session only further killed the movie's credibility.
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Has been twenty years since it came out.
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* ValuesDissonance: The movie was controversial in it's original release for downplaying [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale a woman blatantly raping a man]], but the post-[=#MeToo=] world might as well consider it a hate crime. Rob Perez getting into fights with Reddit users during an AMA session only further killed the movie's credibility.
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* SignatureScene: The infamous [[spoiler:rape scene]]. And for all the [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale wrong]] [[ValuesDissonance reasons]].
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Requires a 20-year waiting period.
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Commenting out until the 20-year period expires.
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* ValuesDissonance: %%ValuesDissonance: The movie was controversial in it's original release for downplaying [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale a woman blatantly raping a man]], but the post-[=#MeToo=] world might as well consider it a hate crime. Rob Perez getting into fights with Reddit users during an AMA session only further killed the movie's credibility.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Matt seems to just shrug off the fact that he was raped and is more concerned with Erica knowing that [[TheUnfairSex he wasn't cheating on her]].
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* ValuesDissonance: The movie was controversial in it's original release for all but flat-out stating that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale a woman blatantly raping a man isn't actually rape]], especially after director Michael Lehmann rather tactlessly laughed off criticisms from actual rape victims. Post-[=#MeToo=], both might as well be hate crimes.
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* ValuesDissonance: The movie was controversial in it's original release for all but flat-out stating that downplaying [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale a woman blatantly raping a man isn't actually rape]], especially after director Michael Lehmann rather tactlessly laughed off criticisms from actual rape victims. Post-[=#MeToo=], both man]], but the post-[=#MeToo=] world might as well be consider it a hate crimes.crime. Rob Perez getting into fights with Reddit users during an AMA session only further killed the movie's credibility.
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* ValuesDissonance: The movie was controversial in it's original release for all but flat-out stating that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale a woman blatantly raping a man isn't actually rape]], especially after director Michael Lehmann rather tactlessly laughed off criticisms from actual rape victims. Post-[=#MeToo=], both might as well be hate crimes.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Nicole crosses it when she sexually [[spoiler:sexually assaults Matt.
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* {{Squick}}: Matt's EroticDream about Erica is completely ruined by shots of Nicole raping him in reality.
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