History YMMV / FateStayNight

3rd Sep '17 4:52:28 PM YasminPerry
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Not'' for the overall plot itself, but for the erotic aspect of it. Many [[ItsNotPornItsArt porn-as-art]] advocates[[note]]yes, they exist. PornWithPlot is a thing, after all.[[/note]] are disappointed that Type-Moon ''didn't'' keep the sex scenes in further releases and integrate them better into the plot, seeing it as wasted potential to prove that not all porn has to be just [[PornWithoutPlot two attractive people walking into a room, having sex, and that's it.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Not'' for the overall plot itself, but for the erotic [[{{hentai}} erotic]] aspect of it. Many [[ItsNotPornItsArt porn-as-art]] advocates[[note]]yes, they exist. PornWithPlot is ''is'' a thing, after all.[[/note]] all[[/note]] are disappointed that Type-Moon ''didn't'' keep the sex scenes in further releases re-releases and integrate them better into the plot, seeing it as wasted untapped potential to prove that not all porn has to be just [[PornWithoutPlot two attractive people walking into a room, having sex, and that's it.]]
3rd Sep '17 4:50:10 PM YasminPerry
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Not'' for the overall plot itself, but for the erotic aspect of it. Many [[ItsNotPornItsArt porn-as-art]] advocates[[note]]yes, they exist. PornWithPlot is a thing, after all.[[/note]] are disappointed that Type-Moon ''didn't'' keep the sex scenes in further releases and integrate them better into the plot, seeing it as wasted potential to prove that not all porn has to be just [[PornWithoutPlot two attractive people walking into a room, having sex, and that's it.]]
31st Aug '17 9:08:53 PM Angeldeb82
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* AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/FateStayNight Has its own page]].

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/FateStayNight Has its own page]].



** The DEEN anime was initially widely praised back in 2006, especially for the fluid animation techniques shown. After 2011, a good portion of the fanbase, especially those introduced to the ''Fate'' franchise through Creator/{{ufotable}}'s adaptation of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' LightNovel criticized the 2006 anime primarily for its plot ([[PragmaticAdaptation which primarily focused on the "Fate" route, but included elements "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" as well, with a questionable degree of success]]) and its frequent OffModel moments (especially when Creator/{{ufotable}}'s animation completely blew DEEN's out of the water in comparison) ultimately leading to them viewing it as DeaderThanDisco FanonDiscontinuity. However, it still has its fans and defenders (including a few that got into the franchise through it), who point out DEEN's version is the only one that assumes you have no knowledge of the visual novel and works from there (while ''Fate/Zero'' being a prequel works under the assumption you already know the twists of ''Fate/stay night'' and spoils twists at will, and ufotable's "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" assume you already watched said prequel). Those who try to [[TakeAThirdOption take a middle ground]] admit that while the 2006 anime may not have aged well compared to the newer animes, it was still decent for its time and not a bad place to start enjoying the Fate series even now. Plus, no one on any side can argue with its AwesomeMusic.

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** The DEEN anime was initially widely praised back in 2006, especially for the fluid animation techniques shown. After 2011, a good portion of the fanbase, especially those introduced to the ''Fate'' franchise through Creator/{{ufotable}}'s adaptation of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' LightNovel criticized the 2006 anime primarily for its plot ([[PragmaticAdaptation which primarily focused on the "Fate" route, but included elements "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" as well, with a questionable degree of success]]) and its frequent OffModel moments (especially when Creator/{{ufotable}}'s animation completely blew DEEN's out of the water in comparison) ultimately leading to them viewing it as DeaderThanDisco FanonDiscontinuity. However, it still has its fans and defenders (including a few that got into the franchise through it), who point out DEEN's version is the only one that assumes you have no knowledge of the visual novel and works from there (while ''Fate/Zero'' being a prequel works under the assumption you already know the twists of ''Fate/stay night'' and spoils twists at will, and ufotable's "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" assume you already watched said prequel). Those who try to [[TakeAThirdOption take a middle ground]] admit that while the 2006 anime may not have aged well compared to the newer animes, it was still decent for its time and not a bad place to start enjoying the Fate series even now. Plus, no one on any side can argue with its AwesomeMusic.SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.



** Speaking of introducing the franchise to newbies, "what to watch first" is a contentious topic. To summarize, the DEEN's series is hard to watch in comparison to the superior animation of ufotable yet it is the only adaptation of the ''Fate'' route or the visual novel as a whole; ''[[LightNovel/FateZero Fate/Zero]]'' assumes that you already knew what happen in ''Fate/stay night'' and in fact spoils the major plot twists of ''Fate'' and ''Heaven's Feel'' routes[[note]]Saber is King Arthur and Sakura is a Tohsaka[[/note]]; ufotable's [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ''Unlimited Blade Works'']] takes it for granted that you already watched ''Fate/Zero'' but the route itself leaves several plots of the prequel unresolved. What most people can agree on is that you should read the visual novel first if you can, [[{{Doorstopper}} though it may require a fair deal of patience]].

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** Speaking of introducing the franchise to newbies, "what to watch first" is a contentious topic. To summarize, the DEEN's series is hard to watch in comparison to the superior animation of ufotable yet it is the only adaptation of the ''Fate'' route or the visual novel as a whole; ''[[LightNovel/FateZero Fate/Zero]]'' ''LightNovel/FateZero'' assumes that you already knew what happen in ''Fate/stay night'' and in fact spoils the major plot twists of ''Fate'' and ''Heaven's Feel'' routes[[note]]Saber is King Arthur and Sakura is a Tohsaka[[/note]]; ufotable's [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ''Unlimited Blade Works'']] takes it for granted that you already watched ''Fate/Zero'' but the route itself leaves several plots of the prequel unresolved. What most people can agree on is that you should read the visual novel first if you can, [[{{Doorstopper}} though it may require a fair deal of patience]].



** Kotomine can also fall into this, as he is actually one of the most popular characters in the franchise and has an incredible amount of depth to him due to a very believable backstory while still being vague enough to spark discussion [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation about his character.]] Is he a TragicVillain or a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds?

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** Kotomine can also fall into this, as he is actually one of the most popular characters in the franchise and has an incredible amount of depth to him due to a very believable backstory while still being vague enough to spark discussion [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation about his character.]] character]]. Is he a TragicVillain or a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds?



** Rider and not just for her sheer MissFanservice traits, but also her tragic past[[spoiler: (being an unique, non-evil take on the Greek monster Medusa without using literal snake hairs)]], her moments of awesome in HF, all while being compelling (which many cannot say about her true master, Sakura). Not bad, when she spent the two first, more popular routes as 'first casualty' fodder all the time.

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** Rider and not just for her sheer MissFanservice traits, but also her tragic past[[spoiler: (being an past [[spoiler:(being a unique, non-evil take on the Greek monster Medusa without using literal snake hairs)]], her moments of awesome in HF, all while being compelling (which many cannot say about her true master, Sakura). Not bad, when she spent the two first, more popular routes as 'first casualty' fodder all the time.



** Many fans prefer pairing Rin with Archer than Shirou, especially it makes for good ShipMates with fans of Shirou and either of the other two heroines. [[spoiler: Ironically Archer actually IS Shirou from the future]].

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** Many fans prefer pairing Rin with Archer than Shirou, especially it makes for good ShipMates with fans of Shirou and either of the other two heroines. [[spoiler: Ironically Archer actually IS Shirou from the future]]. future.]]



** Remember the humorous scenes you can get if you nag Saber for "a super move that can defeat a Servant" during training? In one ending of Heaven's Feel, [[spoiler:Shirou ''actually wins'' against Saber Alter... by using Archer's super move with Kanshou and Bakuya against her.]] Though maybe it's just HilariousInHindsight, since that ending is actually really, really [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome.]]

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** Remember the humorous scenes you can get if you nag Saber for "a super move that can defeat a Servant" during training? In one ending of Heaven's Feel, [[spoiler:Shirou ''actually wins'' against Saber Alter... by using Archer's super move with Kanshou and Bakuya against her.]] Though maybe it's just HilariousInHindsight, since that ending is actually really, really [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome.]][[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]].



** In the Tiger Dojo #21, Ilya says to Taiga that she (and Rin) are the only characters with enough age to be [[MagicalGirl Magical Girls]]. A few years later... hello, [[VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia Kaleido Ruby]] and [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya Prisma Ilya]].
** Shirou's Servant is [[spoiler: [[KingArthur a legendary British king.]]]] In a [[WebComic/AxisPowersHetalia later role]], his voice actor Creator/NoriakiSugiyama would end up voicing [[spoiler: the country of England [[NationsAsPeople him]]self.]]

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** In the Tiger Dojo #21, Ilya says to Taiga that she (and Rin) are the only characters with enough age to be [[MagicalGirl Magical Girls]].{{Magical Girl}}s. A few years later... hello, [[VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia Kaleido Ruby]] and [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya Prisma Ilya]].
** Shirou's Servant is [[spoiler: [[KingArthur [[Myth/KingArthur a legendary British king.]]]] king]]]]. In a [[WebComic/AxisPowersHetalia later role]], his voice actor Creator/NoriakiSugiyama would end up voicing [[spoiler: the country of England [[NationsAsPeople him]]self.]]



** Caster as well, managing to prove a legitimate threat despite her physical weakness thanks to her savvy nature [[spoiler: her defeat in ''Fate'' only happens thanks to Gilgamesh appearing, and in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' because Archer turned out to be a FakeDefector.]]
** Archer proves himself one in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' [[spoiler: managing to even manipulate Caster in his plan to kill Shirou and make Saber into Rin's Servant to help her win the Grail War. The kill Shirou part only fails because he wasn't able to kill him fast enough.]]
* MemeticMutation: [[FountainOfMemes A lot. It comes with]] [[Memes/{{Nasuverse}} the territory]]. And that doesn't even cover 1/4th of the lower key ones.

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** Caster as well, managing to prove a legitimate threat despite her physical weakness thanks to her savvy nature [[spoiler: her defeat in ''Fate'' only happens thanks to Gilgamesh appearing, and in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' because Archer turned out to be a FakeDefector.]]
FakeDefector]].
** Archer proves himself one in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' [[spoiler: managing to even manipulate Caster in his plan to kill Shirou and make Saber into Rin's Servant to help her win the Grail War. The kill Shirou part only fails because he wasn't able to kill him fast enough.]]
enough]].
* MemeticMutation: [[FountainOfMemes A lot. It comes with]] [[Memes/{{Nasuverse}} the territory]]. territory.]] And that doesn't even cover 1/4th of the lower key ones.



** [[RatedMForManly GAR]] [[note]]Came from a post on Website/FourChan where someone remarked that he was [[StupidSexyFlanders "gay for]] Archer" because of his badassery, only to misspell it as "GAR" instead, and it took off from there.[[/note]]

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** [[RatedMForManly GAR]] [[note]]Came from a post on Website/FourChan where someone remarked that he was [[StupidSexyFlanders "gay "[[StupidSexyFlanders gay for]] Archer" because of his badassery, only to misspell it as "GAR" instead, and it took off from there.[[/note]]



** [[EnfantTerrible Ilya]] crosses the line in many [[BadEnd Bad Ends]], particularly the ones in ''Fate'' and ''Heaven's Feel'' where she has Berserker decapitate Shirou's head, but [[FateWorseThanDeath still keeps him alive so that she can torture him even more]] or [[AndIMustScream transfers Shirou's soul into a doll to "keep" him]].

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** [[EnfantTerrible Ilya]] crosses the line in many [[BadEnd Bad Ends]], {{Downer Ending}}s, particularly the ones in ''Fate'' and ''Heaven's Feel'' where she has Berserker decapitate Shirou's head, but [[FateWorseThanDeath still keeps him alive so that she can torture him even more]] or [[AndIMustScream transfers Shirou's soul into a doll to "keep" him]].



** The "Superhero" BadEnd in ''Heaven's Feel'' where [[spoiler:Shirou pragmatically allows Sakura to die to save many people]], considering [[WhatTheHellHero everyone's reactions]], might be an InUniverse example.

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** The "Superhero" BadEnd DownerEnding in ''Heaven's Feel'' where [[spoiler:Shirou pragmatically allows Sakura to die to save many people]], considering [[WhatTheHellHero everyone's reactions]], might be an InUniverse example.



* MostWonderfulSound: Saber unleashing "Excalibur!" and Archer's "Unlimited Blade Works" incantation are always awesome regardless of what medium they're depicted in.

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* MostWonderfulSound: SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: Saber unleashing "Excalibur!" and Archer's "Unlimited Blade Works" incantation are always awesome regardless of what medium they're depicted in.



** His ''Fate'' incarnation is mainly accused for being a VanillaProtagonist whose relationship with Saber is unrealistic and even [[Creator/GenUrobuchi Urobuchi]] agrees(although Nasu argued against Urobuchi's opinion), believing that it's mostly a "complicated relationship with a boy who became a girl". A good number of fans softened their opinion on him after finding out that his CharacterDevelopment and relationship with Saber are more focused on their SurvivorsGuilt and personal issues in regards to their past failures than his IdealHero beliefs. Even the critics are looking forward to his and Saber's relationship, calling it "interesting".

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** His ''Fate'' incarnation is mainly accused for being a VanillaProtagonist whose relationship with Saber is unrealistic and even [[Creator/GenUrobuchi Urobuchi]] agrees(although agrees (although Nasu argued against Urobuchi's opinion), believing that it's mostly a "complicated relationship with a boy who became a girl". A good number of fans softened their opinion on him after finding out that his CharacterDevelopment and relationship with Saber are more focused on their SurvivorsGuilt and personal issues in regards to their past failures than his IdealHero beliefs. Even the critics are looking forward to his and Saber's relationship, calling it "interesting".



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: TheMovie, ''Unlimited Blade Works'', is [[SceneryPorn beautiful.]] Seriously, it's like a 1 hour, 45 minute eye orgasm.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: TheMovie, ''Unlimited Blade Works'', is [[SceneryPorn beautiful.]] beautiful]]. Seriously, it's like a 1 hour, 45 minute eye orgasm.
31st Aug '17 9:08:38 AM Prometheus117
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** The DEEN anime was initially widely praised back in 2006, especially for the fluid animation techniques shown. After 2011, a good portion of the fanbase, especially those introduced to the ''Fate'' franchise through Creator/{{ufotable}}'s adaptation of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' LightNovel criticized the 2006 anime primarily for its plot ([[PragmaticAdaptation which primarily focused on the "Fate" route, but included elements "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" as well, with a questionable degree of success]]) and its frequent OffModel moments (especially when Creator/{{ufotable}}'s animation completely blew DEEN's out of the water in comparison) ultimately leading to them viewing it as DeaderThanDisco FanonDiscontinuity. However, it still has its fans and defenders (including a few that got into the franchise through it), who point out DEEN's version is the only one that assumes you have no knowledge of the visual novel and works from there (while ''Fate/Zero'' being a prequel works under the assumption you already know the twists of ''stay Night'' and spoils twists at will, and ufotable's "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" assume you already watched said prequel). Those who try to [[TakeAThirdOption take a middle ground]] admit that while the 2006 anime may not have aged well compared to the newer animes, it was still decent for its time and not a bad place to start enjoying the Fate series even now. Plus, no one on any side can argue with its AwesomeMusic.

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** The DEEN anime was initially widely praised back in 2006, especially for the fluid animation techniques shown. After 2011, a good portion of the fanbase, especially those introduced to the ''Fate'' franchise through Creator/{{ufotable}}'s adaptation of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' LightNovel criticized the 2006 anime primarily for its plot ([[PragmaticAdaptation which primarily focused on the "Fate" route, but included elements "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" as well, with a questionable degree of success]]) and its frequent OffModel moments (especially when Creator/{{ufotable}}'s animation completely blew DEEN's out of the water in comparison) ultimately leading to them viewing it as DeaderThanDisco FanonDiscontinuity. However, it still has its fans and defenders (including a few that got into the franchise through it), who point out DEEN's version is the only one that assumes you have no knowledge of the visual novel and works from there (while ''Fate/Zero'' being a prequel works under the assumption you already know the twists of ''stay Night'' ''Fate/stay night'' and spoils twists at will, and ufotable's "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" assume you already watched said prequel). Those who try to [[TakeAThirdOption take a middle ground]] admit that while the 2006 anime may not have aged well compared to the newer animes, it was still decent for its time and not a bad place to start enjoying the Fate series even now. Plus, no one on any side can argue with its AwesomeMusic.
31st Aug '17 9:03:57 AM Prometheus117
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** The DEEN anime was initially widely praised back in 2006, especially for the fluid animation techniques shown. After 2011, a good portion of the fanbase, especially those introduced to the ''Fate'' franchise through Creator/{{ufotable}}'s adaptation of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' LightNovel criticized the 2006 anime primarily for its plot ([[PragmaticAdaptation which primarily focused on the "Fate" route, but included elements "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" as well, with a questionable degree of success]]) and its frequent OffModel moments (especially when Creator/{{ufotable}}'s animation completely blew DEEN's out of the water in comparison) ultimately leading to them viewing it as DeaderThanDisco FanonDiscontinuity. However, it still has its fans and defenders (including a few that got into the franchise through it), and those who try to [[TakeAThirdOption take a middle ground]] admit that while the 2006 anime may not have aged well compared to the newer animes, it was still decent for its time and not a bad place to start enjoying the Fate series even now. Plus, no one on any side can argue with its AwesomeMusic.

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** The DEEN anime was initially widely praised back in 2006, especially for the fluid animation techniques shown. After 2011, a good portion of the fanbase, especially those introduced to the ''Fate'' franchise through Creator/{{ufotable}}'s adaptation of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' LightNovel criticized the 2006 anime primarily for its plot ([[PragmaticAdaptation which primarily focused on the "Fate" route, but included elements "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" as well, with a questionable degree of success]]) and its frequent OffModel moments (especially when Creator/{{ufotable}}'s animation completely blew DEEN's out of the water in comparison) ultimately leading to them viewing it as DeaderThanDisco FanonDiscontinuity. However, it still has its fans and defenders (including a few that got into the franchise through it), who point out DEEN's version is the only one that assumes you have no knowledge of the visual novel and those works from there (while ''Fate/Zero'' being a prequel works under the assumption you already know the twists of ''stay Night'' and spoils twists at will, and ufotable's "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" assume you already watched said prequel). Those who try to [[TakeAThirdOption take a middle ground]] admit that while the 2006 anime may not have aged well compared to the newer animes, it was still decent for its time and not a bad place to start enjoying the Fate series even now. Plus, no one on any side can argue with its AwesomeMusic.
13th Aug '17 9:37:24 AM Anduryen
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While the Creator/StudioDeen anime adaptation was quite well-received when it came out, particularly for animation that was actually pretty good for the time, it was pretty much hit by a freight train of OvershadowedByAwesome in every respect ('''especially''' the animation) by every anime adaptation of the franchise since, especially Creator/{{ufotable}} 's versions of ''VisualNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''. A good number of fans (especially those that got into the franchise via the ufotable adaptations) will tell you to skip the former and watch the latter two, or better yet, start with the original VN, and a bit of a BrokenBase exists between these fans and the DEEN anime's remaining defenders (including those that first got into the franchise partially or wholly through it). One thing near-universally agreed to have aged well about it, however? [[AwesomeMusic The soundtrack.]] The 2006 seiyuu cast was also solid enough that most of them continued voicing subsequent incarnations of their characters in the following decade.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While the Creator/StudioDeen anime adaptation was quite well-received when it came out, particularly for animation that was actually pretty good for the time, it was pretty much hit by a freight train of OvershadowedByAwesome in every respect ('''especially''' the animation) by every anime adaptation of the franchise since, especially Creator/{{ufotable}} 's versions of ''VisualNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''. A good number of fans (especially those that got into the franchise via the ufotable adaptations) will tell you to skip the former and watch the latter two, or better yet, start with the original VN, and a bit of a BrokenBase exists between these fans and the DEEN anime's remaining defenders (including those that first got into the franchise partially or wholly through it). One thing near-universally agreed to have aged well about it, however? [[AwesomeMusic The soundtrack.]] The 2006 seiyuu cast was also solid enough that most of them continued voicing subsequent incarnations of their characters in over the following decade.
12th Aug '17 11:15:08 PM Anduryen
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** Illya lacking her own route, which the authors intended to put in the visual novel but did not have enough time, had been the franchise' in-joke for years. Fast forward to 2011, she got [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya a whole show for herself]].
12th Aug '17 10:52:50 PM Anduryen
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While the Creator/StudioDeen anime adaptation was quite well-received when it came out, particularly for animation that was actually pretty good for the time, it was pretty much hit by a freight train of OvershadowedByAwesome in every respect ('''especially''' the animation) by every anime adaptation of the franchise since, especially Creator/{{ufotable}} 's versions of ''VisualNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''. A good number of fans (especially those that got into the franchise via the ufotable adaptations) will tell you to skip the former and watch the latter two, or better yet, start with the original VN, and a bit of a BrokenBase exists between these fans and the DEEN anime's remaining defenders (including those that first got into the franchise partially or wholly through it). One thing near-universally agreed to have aged well about it, however? [[AwesomeMusic The soundtrack.]]

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While the Creator/StudioDeen anime adaptation was quite well-received when it came out, particularly for animation that was actually pretty good for the time, it was pretty much hit by a freight train of OvershadowedByAwesome in every respect ('''especially''' the animation) by every anime adaptation of the franchise since, especially Creator/{{ufotable}} 's versions of ''VisualNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''. A good number of fans (especially those that got into the franchise via the ufotable adaptations) will tell you to skip the former and watch the latter two, or better yet, start with the original VN, and a bit of a BrokenBase exists between these fans and the DEEN anime's remaining defenders (including those that first got into the franchise partially or wholly through it). One thing near-universally agreed to have aged well about it, however? [[AwesomeMusic The soundtrack.]]]] The 2006 seiyuu cast was also solid enough that most of them continued voicing subsequent incarnations of their characters in the following decade.
28th Jul '17 10:37:19 PM Anduryen
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* SignatureScene: Shirou first meeting Saber after accidentally summoning her. The exact shot is replicated in [[http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/919b5bc179be1f75e94b9543eaa5b85d1409857574_full.png the 2006 series]], [[http://www.anime-kun.net/animes/screenshots/fate-stay-night-unlimited-blade-works-6043.jpg the 2010 ''Unlimited Blade Works'' movie]],and [[http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/847/889/a87.png the 2014 series]]. Parody versions include a [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya ''Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya]] [[https://animetics.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/primserillya-1-1.jpg scene]], the VideoGame/BattleMoonWars page picture, as well as in various fanworks.

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* SignatureScene: Shirou first meeting Saber after accidentally summoning her. The exact shot is replicated in [[http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/919b5bc179be1f75e94b9543eaa5b85d1409857574_full.png the 2006 series]], [[http://www.anime-kun.net/animes/screenshots/fate-stay-night-unlimited-blade-works-6043.jpg the 2010 ''Unlimited Blade Works'' movie]],and [[http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/847/889/a87.png the 2014 series]]. Parody versions include a [[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya ''Fate/Kaleid ''[[Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya]] Illya]]'' [[https://animetics.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/primserillya-1-1.jpg scene]], the VideoGame/BattleMoonWars page picture, as well as in various fanworks.
28th Jul '17 5:02:17 PM CombativeBoil
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** In ''Heaven's Feel'' [[spoiler:Sakura Matou herself]] has unknowingly summoned a Shadow that is killing and devouring hundreds of people, and after killing Shinji for trying to rape her, she succumbs to the Shadow's influence and believes that she is beyond saving. However, it's only when [[spoiler: Sakura brutally rapes Rin in the "Femme fatale" Bad End]], that ''Shirou'' ([[spoiler:who has sacrificed everything for her]]) realizes that she's too far gone to be saved. And in ''Fate/unlimited codes'' her dark side crosses this by [[spoiler:keeping Bazet alive just so she can watch her suffer]].

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** In ''Heaven's Feel'' [[spoiler:Sakura Matou herself]] has unknowingly summoned a Shadow that is killing and devouring hundreds of people, and after [[spoiler:after killing Shinji for trying to rape her, her,]] she succumbs to the Shadow's influence and believes that she is beyond saving. However, it's only when [[spoiler: Sakura brutally rapes Rin in the "Femme fatale" Bad End]], that ''Shirou'' ([[spoiler:who has sacrificed everything for her]]) realizes that she's too far gone to be saved. And in ''Fate/unlimited codes'' her dark side crosses this by [[spoiler:keeping Bazet alive just so she can watch her suffer]].
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