History YMMV / FateEXTRA

** '''[[NoIndoorVoice PADORU PADORU]]'''[[note]]In "Teach me, Blossom-sensei!", Saber enters the Nurse's Office wearing a Santa Outfit and [[StylisticSuck singing Jingle Bells in an over-the-top manner]].[[/note]]

** ''CCC'' takes it UpToEleven with Sakura's various "clones," particularly [[http://images.wikia.com/typemoon/images/9/9a/PLCCC.png Passionlip]], who has [[GagBoobs breasts bigger than her head]] with only thin straps to cover her nipples. The otherwise HotterAndSexier ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' actually [[AdaptationalModesty tones down her design]] by giving her a shirt.

* EvenBetterSequel: ''Extra'' was... a perfectly competent game from a mid-tier developer, with some interesting gameplay ideas and some nice visuals and music. ''CCC'', meanwhile, is (for all it occasionally gets a little excessively "lewd") widely considered one of the swan songs of the PSP in Japan and one of the finest [=RPGs=] released on the platform, with fantastic story and characters, a killer soundtrack, a number of improvements to the gameplay systems, and visuals that push the PSP to its limits in a number of places. (This makes a lot of people more than a little frustrated [[NoExportForYou that it never left Japan]].)
* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in the near side story is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from Literature/FateStrangeFake with the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before ''CCC'' started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view. Following this, a reason why Hakuno would be able to summon Enkidu in the first place in the Gilgamesh route could be attributed to the fact that [[YouRemindMeOfX Hakuno's struggles parallels Enkidu's]] and Enkidu responded to Hakuno as a result.

---> '''Commenter:''' ''"Seriously, I don't even know who the TrueFinalBoss is anymore."''[[note]]Probably the most votes go to Gilgamesh and the player character.[[/note]]

* ItWasHisSled: Much like [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight its predecessor]], almost everything about the servents in this game and its sequel ''[=CCC=]'', like Saber's and Caster's identity, has became subject to LateArrivalSpoiler thanks to VideoGame/FateGrandOrder and the VideoGame/FateExtella games.

** There's [[spoiler:FoeYay between a male MC and Julius]], if you've got your ShippingGoggles on.

* FoeYay:
** Leo, with the protagonists, [[spoiler:''especially'' after they beat his brother and when they're both in the finals.]] He's rather excited at the thought of fighting them.
--->'''Leo:''' *Giggle* ''"I'm as enamored with this feeling of competition as a little girl is with a fairy tale."''
** Along with his Master noting the protagonist's "rump" (though in her case it's more because she wants to eat you), the way [[spoiler:Vlad]] talks about Saber, Caster, and ''especially'' Archer more than implies this.
--->'''Lancer''': ''"[[SomethingElseAlsoRises My spear rises]] [[DoubleEntendre in giddy joy]] when I ponder my luck in meeting you!"''
** There's some between the protagonist and [[spoiler:Julius]], too. Seeing as how he [[spoiler:comes back as a virtual ghost just because he can't stand the thought of losing to you]], it's pretty evident. And it's not one-sided, either. You end up either [[spoiler:crying or holding his hand as he dies]]. If you choose to say that [[spoiler:you wanted to understand him]], the narration notes:
--->'''You''': ''"Somewhere deep within that fervor, I uncovered my enchantment with [[spoiler:this steely killer]]."''
** And, of course, ''CCC'' piles it on ''even further'' with [[spoiler:Julius]], stopping near-as-dammit ''at'' the line of outright stating it from [[spoiler:Julius']] side. [[spoiler:The man tears through the trap BB set for you, more or less dooming himself ''again'' in the process, just to save you because you're the only real hope anyone has for getting out of this mess.]]

** Leo, with the protagonists, [[spoiler: ''especially'' after they beat his brother and when they're both in the finals.]] He's rather excited at the thought of fighting them.

* GeniusBonus: Red Saber calls her master "Sousha," in game this is translated as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetor Praetor]], however a literal translation would be [[http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html Player]], as in one who plays music in theatre. [[spoiler: Musical theatre being something of an obsession of hers, it being part of her Noble Phantasm.]] ''Anime/FateExtraLastEncore'''s English dub has her call him "Performer".

** This game ''almost'' answers the infamous Nasuverse PowerLevels question: [[spoiler: "Can [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Shiki]] kill [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Servants?]]"]]. The reason this is an "almost" is because [[spoiler: the Shiki is ''[[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners Ryougi]]'' [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners Shiki]], and the Moon Cell isn't exactly the Holy Grail of the original series.]]

** A common question raised by fans is who would win between Gilgamesh and Karna. The game ''almost'' answers this because [[spoiler: Karna is suffering from ''two'' [[DramaPreservingHandicap Drama Preserving Handicaps]] due to not having his armor and having a bad master, and Gilgamesh has yet to reveal Ea when they fight.]]

** There's [[spoiler: FoeYay between a male MC and Julius]], if you've got your ShippingGoggles on.
** Ronnie's Lancer, on the other hand, is as forthright with the Ho Yay - upon being confronted with the playable Archer - as you'd expect from his other lines.

--->'''Lancer''': ''"I long to pierce that supple body of yours with my spear. You compel me, you, you-- You '''supremely gorgeous creature."'''''
** The female protagonist [[PurelyAestheticGender reacts very similarly to how the male protagonist acts]] when it comes to interacting with other girls, including being awed by their beauty. The scene in which [[spoiler: the girl you saved gets jealous over the other girl feeding you lunch]] plays out ''exactly the same'' with a female protagonist as it does with a male protag.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: ''Fate/Extra''[='=]s Shinji. His ''Fate/Stay Night'' counterpart, while not exactly someone on TheScrappy level, is such a HateSink with irredeemable character traits. Many fans and players alike find ''Fate/Extra''[='=]s Shinji to be a much better characterization of Shinji for being nicer and [[spoiler:and were sad at his HeroicSacrifice in ''CCC'']]. These actions made him far more likable than his Fate Stay Night counterpart as a result.

* SpoiledByTheFormat: [[spoiler: Gawain using the same battle music as the other Servants is a dead give away he isn't the FinalBoss.]]

* UnfortunateNames: Though GratuitousEnglish is to be expected, who in their right minds would call their kid '''Twice'''?

** ''CCC'' takes it UpToEleven with Sakura's various "clones," particularly [[http://images.wikia.com/typemoon/images/9/9a/PLCCC.png Passionlip]], who has breasts bigger than her head with only thin straps to cover her nipples. The otherwise HotterAndSexier ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' actually [[AdaptationalModesty tones down her design]] by giving her a shirt.

* GeniusBonus: Red Saber calls her master "Sousha," in game this is translated as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetor Praetor]], however a literal translation would be [[http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html Player]], as in one who plays music in theatre. [[spoiler: Musical theatre being something of an obsession of hers, it being part of her Noble Phantasm.]] The anime adaptation's English dub has her call him "Performer".

%%** [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Archer immediately recommends retreating.]]

* LesYay:
** The female protagonist [[PurelyAestheticGender reacts very similarly to how the male protagonist acts]] when it comes to interacting with other girls, including being awed by their beauty. The scene in which [[spoiler: the girl you saved gets jealous over the other girl feeding you lunch]] plays out ''exactly the same'' with a female protagonist as it does with a male protag.
** Both the playable Saber and Caster fall in love with her. Caster even [[spoiler:declares her to be her husband if you choose the right options]], just like with the male protagonist.

* GeniusBonus: Red Saber calls her master "Sousha," in game this is translated as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetor Praetor]], however a literal translation would be [[http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html Player]], as in one who plays music in theatre. [[spoiler: Musical theatre being something of an obsession of hers.]]

* AwesomeEgo:
** Saber. She's got a bigger ego than Shinji, but rather than annoying, it just makes her [[ShapedLikeItself awesome]].
** Gilgamesh, per usual.

* GameBreaker: Gilgamesh himself. It's mostly intentional, and already at testing his mode was known as "Hax mode". Not only his stats are higher than average already at the beginning, he has passive skills that give you additional income and drop rate from combats. His Gate of Babylon skill really hurts, and his noble phantasm, EA, instantly ends the battle, no matter who is against you.
** Given the gameplay, this can be justified - considering that the game has many ways of royally screwing up your playthrough. Having the King of Heroes as a servant with such capabilities are more often than not a godsend. To quote a Niconico Douga commenter on the battle with the TrueFinalBoss:

** [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Archer immediately recommends retreating.]]

* LesYay: The female protagonist [[PurelyAestheticGender reacts very similarly to how the male protagonist acts]] when it comes to interacting with other girls, including being awed by their beauty. The scene in which [[spoiler: the girl you saved gets jealous over the other girl feeding you lunch]] plays out ''exactly the same'' with a female protagonist as it does with a male protag.

* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Everyone and their mum loves Karna.
** Hans Christian Andersen is one of the most memorable characters in ''CCC'' because he's a middle-aged man with a voice to match, who gets materialized as a young boy. The man then proceeds to shit talk ''everyone'', even '''Gilgamesh''', [[Creator/TakehitoKoyasu in his middle-aged baritone voice]] and it's never not hilarious.

* WakeUpCallBoss:
** Rider in the first game is the first boss you face but one of the hardest because you'll likely be not used to the game yet and be adjusting only for her to kick your ass if you failed to beat Shinji and her in the treasure event. Her punishing physically attacks can destroy a GlassCannon build character in one turn and her Noble Phantasm is a nightmare.
** In ''CCC'', the second fight with Lancer. The first time she's fairly easy and rarely uses her [[MakeMeWannaShout Noble Phantasm]] at all. The second time though she has way more skills, higher attack damage, and her Noble Phantasm becomes used nearly right away. It's Curse debuff is unfair too and she's easily a jump in difficulty compared to the other bosses.

* TheUntwist: If you read through Caster's skill list in her information section, you can learn her true name (which is regarded as a ''very'' important subject) on as soon as the first day. You'll still act as if you don't know it when she reveals it, of course. This is very likely to be a goof with the translation.

** This game ''almost'' answers the infamous Nasuverse PowerLevels question: [[spoiler: "Can [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Shiki]] kill [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Servants?]]"]]. The reason this is an "almost" is because [[spoiler: the Shiki is ''[[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai Ryougi]]'' [[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai Shiki]], and the Moon Cell isn't exactly the Holy Grail of the original series.]]

* TakeThatScrappy: In the CCC continuity, instead of Vlad, Lil' Ronnie summons Elizabeth, who realizes [[EveryoneHasStandards how utterly batshit crazy]] her Master is and promptly kills Ronnie so she can get a more reliable replacement.

* ItWasHisSled: Much like [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight its predecessor]], almost everything about the servents in this game and its sequel ''[=CCC=]'', like Saber's and Caster's identity, has became subject to LateArrivalSpoiler thanks to VideoGame/FateGrandOrder and the VideoGame/FateExtella games.

** [[LargeHam "AUO,]] [[ShamelessFanserviceGuy Cast Off!"]][[note]]Gilgamesh "defeats" CCC Lancer by taking his clothes off and shouts that when he does it.[[/note]]

** ''CCC'' takes it UpToEleven with Sakura's various "clones," particularly [[http://images.wikia.com/typemoon/images/9/9a/PLCCC.png Passionlip]].

* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in the near side story is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before ''CCC'' started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view. Following this, a reason why Hakuno would be able to summon Enkidu in the first place in the Gilgamesh route could be attributed to the fact that [[YouRemindMeOfX Hakuno's struggles parallels Enkidu's]] and Enkidu responded to Hakuno as a result.

* ThatOneAttack:
** In CCC, Lancer's Tail attack is unfair. If you block the attack, you still take some damage, but you get stunned which leaves it open for her to attack you right away. If you don't block, you take a good amount of damage, and since she's already a WakeUpCallBoss, it means you'll likely be having issues trying to keep your HP up to survive.

** In the first game, no matter what path you follow the Lancer you fight will be a pain to fight due to their high attack and extremely high defense. [[spoiler:The Lancer from Rani's path is even worse because of his OneHitKO.]]
** In Extra CCC, the boss fight with Karna is this if your playing as Caster because his attacks are punishing against [[SquishyMage Caster]] and his Noble Phantasm is almost a OneHitKO.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: A common criticism of the original game was that it was a watered down {{VideoGame/Persona 3}} with ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' characters and concepts. The fact that two ex-ATLUS employees worked on the game didn't help either. It wasn't until ''CCC'' that the series really carved out its own identity.

** In CCC the second fight with Lancer. The first time she's fairly easy and rarely uses her [[MakeMeWannaShout Noble Phantasm]] at all. The second time though she has way more skills, higher attack damage, and her Noble Phantasm becomes used nearly right away. It's Curse debuff is unfair too and she's easily a jump in difficulty compared to the other bosses.

** Caster's Castration Punch.[[note]]In Fate Extra Caster mentioned using an attack combo used to Castrate people. Became an AscendedMeme in CCC where it's now an attack for her, and it deals massive damage to male enemies.[[/note]]

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Fate Extra's Shinji. His Fate Stay Night counterpart, while not exactly someone on TheScrappy level, is such a HateSink with irredeemable character traits. Many fans and players alike find Fate Extra's Shinji to be a much better characterization of Shinji for being nicer and [[spoiler:and were sad at his HeroicSacrifice in CCC]]. These actions made him far more likable than his Fate Stay Night counterpart as a result.

* BrokenBase: The excessive fanservice in CCC (see FetishRetardant). Split between the people who love it (as it was definitely geared towards them), the people who hate it (for looking ridiculous and offputting), and the people who understand how it's meant to tie into the wider themes of the story and just roll with it for what it is.

** Hans Christian Andersen is one of the most memorable characters in CCC because he's a middle-aged man with a voice to match, who gets materialized as a young boy. The man then proceeds to shit talk ''everyone'', even '''Gilgamesh''', [[Creator/TakehitoKoyasu in his middle-aged baritone voice]] and it's never not hilarious.

* {{Fanon}}: Hakuno's first servant in the near side story is thought to be Enkidu, or at least, the Berserker variant of him. This was derived from {{Literature/FateStrangeFake}} with the narrations mentioning that Enkidu can qualify for Berserker with his original mud clay doll form and some fanworks, mostly of the Gilgamesh/Female Hakuno kind went with this as a prediction to Hakuno's first servant before CCC started in Gilgamesh's story, who is said to be of the Berserker Class. This is also fueled from the fact that Gilgamesh's second SG and the dreams Hakuno gets about Gilgamesh's past is from Enkidu's point of view. Following this, a reason why Hakuno would be able to summon Enkidu in the first place in the Gilgamesh route could be attributed to the fact that [[YouRemindMeOfX Hakuno's struggles parallels Enkidu's]] and Enkidu responded to Hakuno as a result.

-->'''Leo:''' *Giggle* ''"I'm as enamored with this feeling of competition as a little girl is with a fairy tale."''

-->'''Lancer''': ''"[[SomethingElseAlsoRises My spear rises]] [[DoubleEntendre in giddy joy]] when I ponder my luck in meeting you!"''

-->'''You''': ''"Somewhere deep within that fervor, I uncovered my enchantment with [[spoiler:this steely killer]]."''

--> '''Commenter:''' ''"Seriously, I don't even know who the TrueFinalBoss is anymore."''[[note]]Probably the most votes go to Gilgamesh and the player character.[[/note]]

** It was a minor meme to refer to Sakura in the ''Heaven's Feel'' route of the original VisualNovel/FateStayNight as an "erotical black hole". Guess what the TrueFinalBoss's Noble Phantasm in CCC, a game which places quite a lot of focus on Sakura, basically is.

-->'''Lancer''': ''"Is it not fateful, stiff-backed archer?"''
-->'''Lancer''': ''"That noble stare of yours outshines the moon. You are the Apollo that I have been searching for!"''
-->'''Lancer''': ''"I long to pierce that supple body of yours with my spear. You compel me, you, you-- You '''supremely gorgeous creature."'''''

** In ''CCC'', Gilgamesh is even more awesome than his F/SN counterpart.

** [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Despite the amount of ships she has]], the most popular ship for Female Hakuno is Gilgamesh/Hakuno (which was shipped even ''before'' Gilgamesh was added). What got most people shipping Hakuno with Gilgamesh is that Hakuno brought out the best of Gilgamesh as a character and they both grow together in their CharacterDevelopment as the game progresses.

* CriticalResearchFailure: According to the "Secret Garden" event and supplementary materials, the Lancer Servant from ''Fate/Extra CCC''' was born on May 17, but the real life [[spoiler:Elizabeth Báthory]]'s birthday was August 7.