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** Reagan got a lot of hate after breaking up with Amy because she wouldn't commit to being a lesbian rather than maybe still have feelings for guys...but there's sitll a small chunk of the fandom that prefers Reamy over Karmy. A few of these are the fans that were firmly on the side of wanting Amy to be fully lesbian, making Reagan a bit of an AudienceSurrogate for them.
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* IronWoobie: Yes, Lauren isn't the nicest of persons, but she simply hasn't caught many breaks and she's right in that another school, she'd be a queen. She acts out, yes, but people forget that shes been uprooted from her home, she has no real friends, there's no one at her high school that she can connect with (save Shane, and she's pointed out that [[NotSoDifferent neither of them are very nice people]]). Still, she's amazing at helping with Farrah's wedding, she empathizes with Amy after their mutual breakups, she manages to maintain a friendship with Pablo (who she actually attempts to protects from Shane's dating style), and she never told their parents about Amy & Karma's entire scheme. (Yes, she tried to bust them at school, but it wasn't personal.) On top of everything, [[spoiler: she was born intersexed]]. Basically, the only person she consistently has the upper hand on is Principal Penelope.

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* IronWoobie: JerkassWoobie: Yes, Lauren isn't the nicest of persons, but she simply hasn't caught many breaks and she's right in that another school, she'd be a queen. She acts out, yes, but people forget that shes been uprooted from her home, she has no real friends, there's no one at her high school that she can connect with (save Shane, and she's pointed out that [[NotSoDifferent neither of them are very nice people]]). Still, she's amazing at helping with Farrah's wedding, she empathizes with Amy after their mutual breakups, she manages to maintain a friendship with Pablo (who she actually attempts to protects from Shane's dating style), and she never told their parents about Amy & Karma's entire scheme. (Yes, she tried to bust them at school, but it wasn't personal.) On top of everything, [[spoiler: she was born intersexed]]. Basically, the only person she consistently has the upper hand on is Principal Penelope.
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** This anvil dropped on Shane's head later when he secretly outed Duke, causing him to lose his Cluck 'n Go sponsorship (though he picked up Sqwerkel) and confess his love for Shane...until Shane carelessly blabbed about it in anger in front of him, at which point he broke up with Shane. Shane's last apology to Duke falls flat.
-->'''Duke''': I said I accepted your apology. I didn't say I forgave you.

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** Amy's sexuality itself has become a huge lightning rod within the fanbase: for those that think it's biphobic or a form of bi-erasure for Amy to identify as lesbian since there have been signs of slight attraction to other men, or those who want a strong lesbian protagonist who fully comes to term with her sexuality and doesn't have to get involved with the opposite sex (which some find a terrible lesbian media clique). And that does bring up the issue if she were to get romantically linked with another man throughout the rest of the show (or just other men from now on), which would likely only fan the flames surronding the nature of it's already-very-controversial premise and what it's trying to say about female-female romantic relationships.

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** Amy's sexuality itself has become a huge lightning rod within the fanbase: for those that think it's biphobic or a form of bi-erasure for Amy to identify as lesbian since there have been signs of slight attraction to other men, or those who want a strong lesbian protagonist who fully comes to term with her sexuality and doesn't have to keep get involved with the opposite sex (which some find a terrible lesbian media clique). And that does bring up the issue if she were to get romantically linked with another man throughout the rest of the show (or just other men from now on), which would likely only fan the flames surronding the nature of it's already-very-controversial premise and what it's trying enforcing negative stigmas specific to say about female-female romantic relationships.bi/pansexual women.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some would say Liam, as he evolved into a much more rounded and sympathetic character by the end of season one and was no longer just a SatelliteLoveInterest who just Wanted To Hook Up With A Lesbian, as he grows to truly care for Karma even [[spoiler: with his and Amy's alcohol-fueled betrayal]]. Also gets a lot less DieForOurShip treatment as Amy/Reagan has been widely embraced by the fandom.
** Lauren, too, as she revealed more character depths than being the suppressed AlphaBitch and can be a caring individual beneath the harsh IceQueen exterior. The canon Theo/Lauren also proved to be very popular, that is until [[spoiler: Theo's secret is revealed...]]


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** Reagan became a big one after [[spoiler: her and Amy's breakup]] in season 2B, mainly for her reluctance to keep dating Amy for not identifying as a lesbian and a portion of the fanbase's general anger that it was re-inforcing a very ugly stereotype about the LGBTQ community.
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** Amy's sexuality itself has become a huge lightning rod within the fanbase: for those that think it's biphobic or a form of bi-erasure for Amy to identify as lesbian since there have been signs of slight attraction to other men, or those who want a strong lesbian protagonist who fully comes to term with her sexuality and doesn't have to get involved with the opposite sex (which some find a terrible lesbian media clique). And that does bring up the issue if she were to get romantically linked with another man throughout the rest of the show (or just other men from now on), which would likely only fan the flames surronding the nature of it's already-very-controversial premise and what it's trying to say about female-female romantic relationships and queer-woman sexuality.

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** Amy's sexuality itself has become a huge lightning rod within the fanbase: for those that think it's biphobic or a form of bi-erasure for Amy to identify as lesbian since there have been signs of slight attraction to other men, or those who want a strong lesbian protagonist who fully comes to term with her sexuality and doesn't have to get involved with the opposite sex (which some find a terrible lesbian media clique). And that does bring up the issue if she were to get romantically linked with another man throughout the rest of the show (or just other men from now on), which would likely only fan the flames surronding the nature of it's already-very-controversial premise and what it's trying to say about female-female romantic relationships and queer-woman sexuality.relationships.
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** Amy's sexuality itself has become a huge lightning rod within the fanbase: for those that think it's biphobic or a form of bi-erasure for Amy to identify as lesbian since there have been signs of slight attraction to other men, or those who want a strong lesbian protagonist who fully comes to term with her sexuality and doesn't have to get involved with the opposite sex (which some find a terrible lesbian media clique). And that does bring up the issue if she were to get romantically linked with another man throughout the rest of the show (or just other men from now on), which would likely only fan the flames surronding the nature of it's already-very-controversial premise and what it's trying to say about female-female romantic relationships and queer-woman sexuality.
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* IronWoobie: Yes, Lauren isn't the nicest of persons, but she simply hasn't caught many breaks and she's right in that another school, she'd be a queen. She acts out, yes, but people forget that shes been uprooted from her home, she has no real friends, there's no one at her high school that she can connect with (save Shane, and she's pointed out that [[NotSoDifferent neither of them are very nice people]]). Still, she's amazing at helping with Farrah's wedding, she empathizes with Amy after their mutual breakups, she manages to maintain a friendship with Pablo (who she actually attempts to protects from Shane's dating style), and she never told their parents about Amy & Karma's entire scheme. (Yes, she tried to bust them at school, but it wasn't personal.) On top of everything, [[spoiler: she was born intersexed]]

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* IronWoobie: Yes, Lauren isn't the nicest of persons, but she simply hasn't caught many breaks and she's right in that another school, she'd be a queen. She acts out, yes, but people forget that shes been uprooted from her home, she has no real friends, there's no one at her high school that she can connect with (save Shane, and she's pointed out that [[NotSoDifferent neither of them are very nice people]]). Still, she's amazing at helping with Farrah's wedding, she empathizes with Amy after their mutual breakups, she manages to maintain a friendship with Pablo (who she actually attempts to protects from Shane's dating style), and she never told their parents about Amy & Karma's entire scheme. (Yes, she tried to bust them at school, but it wasn't personal.) On top of everything, [[spoiler: she was born intersexed]]intersexed]]. Basically, the only person she consistently has the upper hand on is Principal Penelope.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Meanwhile, Lauren's secret ([[spoiler:that she's intersexed]]) makes the tampon up her boyfriend Tommy's nose to stop the bleeding from a fight in "Three to Tango" a bit more complicated...[[spoilers:for starters, did he get it from Lauren?]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Meanwhile, Lauren's secret ([[spoiler:that she's intersexed]]) makes the tampon up her boyfriend Tommy's nose to stop the bleeding from a fight in "Three to Tango" a bit more complicated...[[spoilers:for [[spoiler:For starters, did he get it from Lauren?]]
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Meanwhile, Lauren's secret ([[spoiler:that she's intersexed]]) makes the tampon up her boyfriend Tommy's nose to stop the bleeding from a fight in "Three to Tango" a bit more complicated...[[spoilers:for starters, did he get it from Lauren?]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Amy is obviously not the bad guy of the show, but plenty of fans praise her while in the meantime criticizing [[RonTheDeathEater Karma]] despite the fact the two of them are equally not perfect.
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* RonTheDeathEater: There's a fair portion of the fandom who villainize Karma for practically everything that she does.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Shane (reluctantly) allows Duke to keep quiet about his relationship with him while he searchs for MMA sponsers. However, when Duke ends up striking a deal with Cluck-n-go (an obvious {{expy}} of the religious fast food chain Chick-fil-a), despite their notoriously homophobic leanings, Shane refuses to go along with it and [[spoiler: ultimately severs his relationship with Duke]].

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* HoYay: Liam and Shane experience a few instances of it, such as Shane leaning his head on Liam's shoulder

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* HoYay: Liam and Shane experience a few instances of it, such as Shane leaning his head on Liam's shouldershoulder.



* IncestSubtext: Although it's barely subtext, between Pieter and Petra. They hold hands while talking to Liam and Shane who are trying to pick them up, Petra agrees to make out with Liam but wants him to dress up like her brother and seem relieved when Liam and Shane leave.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some would say Liam, as he evolved into a much more rounded and sympathetic character by the end of season one and was no longer just a SatelliteLoveInterest who just Wanted To Hook Up With A Lesbian, as he grows to truly care for Karma even [[spoiler: with his and Amy's alcohol-fueled betrayal]]. Also gets a lot less DieForOurShip treatment as Amy/Reagan has been widely embraced by the fandom.
** Lauren, too, as she revealed more character depths than being the suppressed AlphaBitch and can be a caring individual beneath the harsh IceQueen exterior. The canon Theo/Lauren also proved to be very popular, that is until [[spoiler: Theo's secret is revealed...]]
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** Karma was moving into this territory for a sizable part of the fanbase in season 2, as possible {{Flanderization}} has made her a bit too [[DramaQueen self-centered and melodromatic]], and some think she's intentionally undermining Amy's [[Spoiler: relationship with Reagan]] because she's no longer [[AttentionWhore the sole focal point of Amy's world]]. On the other hand, some would justify Amy's increasing coldness toward Karma after [[Spoiler: getting together with Reagan]] and the whole thing with Liam is partial justification for Karma's modest exaggerations in character. Gained more sympathy towards the end of Season 2 after [[Spoiler: Amy and Liam's secret was revealed]].

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** Karma was moving into this territory for a sizable part of the fanbase in season 2, as possible {{Flanderization}} has made her a bit too even more [[DramaQueen self-centered and melodromatic]], melodromatic]] than before, and some think she's intentionally undermining Amy's [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: relationship with Reagan]] because she's no longer [[AttentionWhore the sole focal point of Amy's world]]. On the other hand, some would justify Amy's increasing coldness toward Karma after [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: getting together with Reagan]] and the whole thing with Liam is partial justification for Karma's modest exaggerations in character. Gained more sympathy towards the end of Season 2 after [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Amy and Liam's secret was revealed]].
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** Karma was moving into this territory for a sizable part of the fanbase in season 2, as possible {{Flanderization}} has made her a bit too [[DramaQueen self-centered and melodromatic]], and some think she's intentionally undermining Amy's [[Spoiler: relationship with Reagan]] because she's no longer [[AttentionWhore the sole focal point of Amy's world]]. On the other hand, some would justify Amy's increasing coldness toward Karma after [[Spoiler: getting together with Reagan]] and the whole thing with Liam is partial justification for Karma's modest exaggerations in character. Gained more sympathy towards the end of Season 2 after [[Spoiler: Amy and Liam's secret was revealed]].
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** They divided fans more during the series finale, when [[spoiler: Liam and Amy have sex]], which many thought drudged back up a terrible lesbian clique.
*** Given Amy has not, as of the season 1 finale, identified herself as a lesbian, so the argument can still be made she's figuring things out or that it was simply an act of revenge against Karma.
** Liam, both for shipping reasons and for those who are divided as interpreting him as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold or simply a SatelliteCharacter who brings up some sexist cliques about women always scheming to get The Guy Everybody Wants.

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** They divided fans more during the series finale, when [[spoiler: Liam and Amy have sex]], which many thought drudged back up a terrible lesbian clique.cliche.
*** Given Amy has not, as of the season 1 finale, identified herself as a lesbian, so the argument can still be made she's figuring things out or that it was simply an act of revenge against Karma. \n In season 2 she does experience some desitre for a guy from Brazil but seems to prefer women overall.
** Liam, both for shipping reasons and for those who are divided as interpreting him as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold or simply a SatelliteCharacter who brings up some sexist cliques cliches about women always scheming to get The Guy Everybody Wants.

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*** Given Amy has not, as of the season 1 finale, identified herself as a lesbian, so the argument can still be made she's figuring things out or that it was simply an act of revenge against Karma, though if she does all of a sudden starts to show interest or pursues a relationship with men, for some that brings up more UnfortunateImplications that somehow [[spoiler: having sex for the first time with a man can "turn" a lesbian onto men in general]].

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*** Given Amy has not, as of the season 1 finale, identified herself as a lesbian, so the argument can still be made she's figuring things out or that it was simply an act of revenge against Karma, though if she does all of a sudden starts to show interest or pursues a relationship with men, for some that brings up more UnfortunateImplications that somehow [[spoiler: having sex for the first time with a man can "turn" a lesbian onto men in general]].Karma.



* UnfortunateImplications: In the finale, after [[spoiler:Karma rejects Amy]], Amy gets stinking drunk off of reception wine. A helpful reminder that Amy's ''fifteen''. That would not bode well for the catering service that only stopped serving her after she was too drunk to rationally make decisions...[[spoiler:like sleeping with Liam.]]
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* {{Feghoot}}: Seems to have been building the whole season, until it's finally dropped in the finale.
-->'''Lauren:''' Karma's a bitch.



* HollywoodDateless: It's hard to imagine any place where Karma and Amy would have trouble getting noticed or finding a date... but we're supposed to believe them as total high school wallflowers.
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*** Given Amy has not, as of the season 1 finale, identified herself as a lesbian, so the argument can still be made she's figuring things out or that it was simply an act of revenge against Karma, though for some that brings up another bad clique that somehow [[spoiler: having sex for the first time with a man can "turn" a lesbian onto men in general]].
** Liam, both for shipping reasons and for those who are divided as interpreting him as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold or simply a SatelliteCharacter who brings up some sexist cliques about women always scheming to get The Guy Every Girl Wants.

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*** Given Amy has not, as of the season 1 finale, identified herself as a lesbian, so the argument can still be made she's figuring things out or that it was simply an act of revenge against Karma, though if she does all of a sudden starts to show interest or pursues a relationship with men, for some that brings up another bad clique more UnfortunateImplications that somehow [[spoiler: having sex for the first time with a man can "turn" a lesbian onto men in general]].
** Liam, both for shipping reasons and for those who are divided as interpreting him as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold or simply a SatelliteCharacter who brings up some sexist cliques about women always scheming to get The Guy Every Girl Everybody Wants.
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** Karmy now has a new enemy in [[spoiler: Reamy, due to Amy getting a girlfriend of her own in season 2]].
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* HollywoodDateless: It's hard to imagine any place where Karma and Amy would have trouble getting noticed or finding a date... but we're supposed to believe them as total high school wallflowers.


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** It does seem odd he wouldn't be suspicious of Karma being straight or at the least [[NoBisexuals bisexual]] when she spends a lot of energy either explicitly flirting or even trying to sleep with him... Liam definitely doesn't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.
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* FoeYay: Shane and Lauren, or perhaps becoming a subtler version of VitrolicBestBuds.

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* FoeYay: Shane and Lauren, or perhaps becoming to a subtler version of VitrolicBestBuds.certain extent
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* BaseBreaker:
** The Premise, as stated above
** They divided fans more during the series finale, when [[spoiler: Liam and Amy have sex]], which many thought drudged back up a terrible lesbian clique.
*** Given Amy has not, as of the season 1 finale, identified herself as a lesbian, so the argument can still be made she's figuring things out or that it was simply an act of revenge against Karma, though for some that brings up another bad clique that somehow [[spoiler: having sex for the first time with a man can "turn" a lesbian onto men in general]].
** Liam, both for shipping reasons and for those who are divided as interpreting him as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold or simply a SatelliteCharacter who brings up some sexist cliques about women always scheming to get The Guy Every Girl Wants.
** Shane gets this too, for those who think he crossed a MoralEventHorizon when he "outed" Karma and Amy as lesbians in front of their classmates without their consent.


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* FoeYay: Shane and Lauren, or perhaps becoming a subtler version of VitrolicBestBuds.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Bruce seems much more accepting of Amy being gay than Farrah. It makes sense in Season 2 when it's revealed that Lauren [[spoiler: is intersexed]]
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* ShipToShipCombat: Although dominated by Karmy, there are those that hold out hope for Kiam (and even a few [[spoiler:Lamy (Liam and Amy)]] shippers after the first season finale.)
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* IronWoobie: Yes, Lauren isn't the nicest of persons, but she simply hasn't caught many breaks and she's right in that another school, she'd be a queen. She acts out, yes, but people forget that shes been uprooted from her home, she has no real friends, there's no one at her high school that she can connect with (save Shane, and she's pointed out that [[NotSoDifferent neither of them are very nice people]]). Still, she's amazing at helping with Farrah's wedding, she empathizes with Amy after their mutual breakups, she manages to maintain a friendship with Pablo (who she actually attempts to protects from Shane's dating style), and she never told their parents about Amy & Karma's entire scheme. (Yes, she tried to bust them at school, but it wasn't personal.)

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* IronWoobie: Yes, Lauren isn't the nicest of persons, but she simply hasn't caught many breaks and she's right in that another school, she'd be a queen. She acts out, yes, but people forget that shes been uprooted from her home, she has no real friends, there's no one at her high school that she can connect with (save Shane, and she's pointed out that [[NotSoDifferent neither of them are very nice people]]). Still, she's amazing at helping with Farrah's wedding, she empathizes with Amy after their mutual breakups, she manages to maintain a friendship with Pablo (who she actually attempts to protects from Shane's dating style), and she never told their parents about Amy & Karma's entire scheme. (Yes, she tried to bust them at school, but it wasn't personal.)) On top of everything, [[spoiler: she was born intersexed]]
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** May we add that Amy's actress, Rita Volk, played a parody {{Expy}} of Creator/JenniferLawrence's character from ''Film/TheHungerGames'' in a previous movie? And she did so ''convincingly''?
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The threesome tutorial that the football and soccer players give to Liam. ''"These are the Three 'F's for not f**king up a threeway!"''

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