History YMMV / EverybodyLovesRaymond

28th Apr '16 10:38:57 PM huntdaddy
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* DesignatedVillain: Jerry Musso in "Somebody Hates Raymond". While definitely arrogant, he nonetheless doesn't even dislike Ray personally; the former just doesn't find the latter's work entertaining, something which falls under freedom of opinion instead of anything actually evil. Furthermore, Musso has every right to decide who's allowed to guest-host ''his'' show and who's not. Nevertheless, the episode seemingly vilifies him as someone so bad that even Robert, himself at odds with Ray throughout most of the episode, is ultimately appalled enough to give him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for Ray's sake (granted, it ''is'' awesome and heartwarming at the same time, though).

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* DesignatedVillain: Jerry Musso in "Somebody Hates Raymond". While definitely arrogant, he nonetheless doesn't even dislike Ray personally; the former just doesn't find the latter's work entertaining, something which falls under freedom of opinion instead of anything actually evil.evil, and he simply loses patience with Ray nagging him about the reason for his disliking. Furthermore, Musso has every right to decide who's allowed to guest-host ''his'' show and who's not. Nevertheless, the episode seemingly vilifies him as someone so bad that even Robert, himself at odds with Ray throughout most of the episode, is ultimately appalled enough to give him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for Ray's sake (granted, it ''is'' awesome and heartwarming at the same time, though).
24th Apr '16 9:41:08 AM Peridonyx
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* DesignatedVillain: Jerry Musso in "Somebody Hates Raymond". While kind of arrogant, he doesn't even dislike Ray personally; the former just doesn't find the latter's work entertaining, something which falls under freedom of opinion instead of anything actually evil. Furthermore, Musso has every right to decide who's allowed to guest-host ''his'' show and who's not. Nevertheless, the episode seemingly vilifies him as someone so bad that even Robert, himself at odds with Ray throughout most of the episode, is ultimately appalled enough to give him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for Ray's sake (granted, it ''is'' awesome and heartwarming at the same time, though).

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* DesignatedVillain: Jerry Musso in "Somebody Hates Raymond". While kind of definitely arrogant, he nonetheless doesn't even dislike Ray personally; the former just doesn't find the latter's work entertaining, something which falls under freedom of opinion instead of anything actually evil. Furthermore, Musso has every right to decide who's allowed to guest-host ''his'' show and who's not. Nevertheless, the episode seemingly vilifies him as someone so bad that even Robert, himself at odds with Ray throughout most of the episode, is ultimately appalled enough to give him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for Ray's sake (granted, it ''is'' awesome and heartwarming at the same time, though).
24th Apr '16 9:39:18 AM Peridonyx
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* DesignatedVillain: Jerry Musso in "Somebody Hates Raymond". While kind of arrogant, he doesn't even dislike Ray personally; the former just doesn't find the latter's work entertaining, something which falls under freedom of opinion instead of anything actually evil. Furthermore, Musso has every right to decide who's allowed to guest-host ''his'' show and who's not. Nevertheless, the episode seemingly vilifies him as someone so bad that even Robert, himself at odds with Ray throughout most of the episode, is ultimately appalled enough to give him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for Ray's sake (granted, it ''is'' awesome and heartwarming at the same time, though).
20th Apr '16 5:39:18 PM Pren
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* HarsherInHindsight: When Robert comments on how he doesn't picture Frank outliving Marie. Peter Boyle died shortly after the series ended.

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* HarsherInHindsight: When Robert comments on how he doesn't picture Frank outliving Marie. Peter Boyle died shortly after the series ended.ended, with Doris Roberts surviving him by a whole decade.
20th Apr '16 10:24:18 AM speedyboris
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* ValuesDissonance: The show made a big deal out of Robert living with his parents into his forties. Thanks to the 2008 recession, which we're still feeling to an extent today, the idea of someone living with their parents to save money doesn't seem so odd.
19th Apr '16 10:45:24 PM tmartin09
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** Is Ray really the favorite or does Marie just think he's too weak to function on his own? Does she dismiss Robert's success as a cop because she's so worried for his safety?

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** Is Ray really the favorite or does Marie just think he's too weak to function on his own? Does she dismiss Robert's success as a cop because she's so worried for his safety?safety? Or is he simply a pawn in her manipulations?
19th Apr '16 10:40:26 PM tmartin09
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** Is Frank an ignorant, unappreciative asshole who is emotionally abusive to his wife and kids, or a family man who made them a damn good life?

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** Is Ray really the favorite or does Marie just think he's too weak to function on his own? Does she dismiss Robert's success as a cop because she's so worried for his safety?
** Is Frank an ignorant, unappreciative asshole who is emotionally abusive to his wife and kids, or a family man who made them a damn good life?life and did better than his physically abusive father and grandfather?
17th Mar '16 9:05:07 PM creader
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* BrokenAesop:
** "Win, Lose or Draw." Throw your money away on something stupid, and then just go to your parents and ask them to replace the money.
** "Lateness." Debra makes a deal with Ray, breaks it, and then gets mad at him when he holds up his end. Great lesson for married couples to follow...[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything even if both partners agree on a promise, it's perfectly acceptable for one partner to break that promise, and the other partner should be okay with that.]]
15th Dec '15 8:13:10 AM DoctorSleep
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* FunnyAneurysm: In one episode, there is a rather unpleasant scene where Ray tells Debra that he found out that their daughter Ally has been bullying another girl on the school bus. Debra shrugs it off, saying she doesn't think it's a big deal and that it's just kids being kids. When Ray asserts that bullying is indeed a big deal and notes that he and Robert are still scarred from their own experiences, Debra smirks and calls him a wuss, and then starts calling Ray names while the studio audience laughs, this scene is considerably less funny today due to the rash of bullying-related suicides and murders over the past few years.
** One episode revealed that Debra (and Marie) would tell their kids to think less of their fathers and covertly try to make themselves as the more adored and likeable parent. The episode treats this as a sneaky but wacky act on Debra's part (she pokes fun at Ray's inability to tell when she's gotten a new haircut, or how he's not always zipped up), but more serious on Marie's part (she derided Frank and told her young son how she couldn't understand how anyone can live with him). In real life, this is called Parental Alienation Syndrome, and is found in many mean-spirited and bitter divorces.
28th Sep '15 9:57:05 PM Eagal
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* DudeNotFunny: In one episode, there is a rather unpleasant scene where Ray tells Debra that he found out that their daughter Ally has been bullying another girl on the school bus. Debra shrugs it off, saying she doesn't think it's a big deal and that it's just kids being kids. When Ray asserts that bullying is indeed a big deal and notes that he and Robert are still scarred from their own experiences, Debra smirks and calls him a wuss, and then starts calling Ray names while the studio audience laughs, this scene is considerably less funny today due to the rash of bullying-related suicides and murders over the past few years.
** One episode revealed that Debra (and Marie) would tell their kids to think less of their fathers and covertly try to make themselves as the more adored and likeable parent. The episode treats this as a sneaky but wacky act on Debra's part (she pokes fun at Ray's inability to tell when she's gotten a new haircut, or how he's not always zipped up), but more serious on Marie's part (she derided Frank and told her young son how she couldn't understand how anyone can live with him). In real life, this is called Parental Alienation Syndrome, and is found in many mean-spirited and bitter divorces.
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