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* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist. The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and some readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes some readers as markedly less preachy.
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* FlatCharacter: Aspen seems to exist simply to be there so ''Tehanu'' can have more in-universe feminist themes and a driving antagonist. As a character, it doesn't seem he has ''[[StrawMisogynist any real motives]]'' for completely hating women at all.

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** The entire concept of ''The Farthest Shore''. Magic is fading in all of the world, people are obsessed with their mortality and going insane (especially wizards), and [[spoiler: there is ''someone'' behind what's happening, someone powerful enough to be able to defeat the dragons and have control on the dead]]. Most people seem to be on the verge on a Main/DespairEventHorizon for almost the whole book.

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** The entire concept of ''The Farthest Shore''. Magic is fading in all of the world, people are obsessed with their mortality and going insane (especially wizards), and [[spoiler: there is ''someone'' behind what's happening, someone powerful enough to be able to defeat the dragons and have control on the dead]]. Most people seem to be on the verge on a Main/DespairEventHorizon for almost the whole book.



* TearJerker: "Firelight", as it's about [[spoiler:Ged's last days, looking back at his adventures and noting how everything came full circle in the end before sailing off to the afterlife in the Lookfar]]. The RealitySubtext of this being the last Earthsea story and published posthumously just makes it hit all the harder.

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"Firelight", as it's about [[spoiler:Ged's last days, looking back at his adventures and noting how everything came full circle in the end before sailing off to the afterlife in the Lookfar]]. The RealitySubtext of this being the last Earthsea story and published posthumously just makes it hit all the harder.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[WriterOnBoard The feminist themes]] in ''Tehanu'' are the complete opposite of subtle. Thankfully toned down much more in ''The Other Wind''.

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[[WriterOnBoard The feminist themes]] in ''Tehanu'' are the complete opposite of subtle. Thankfully toned down much more in ''The Other Wind''.Wind''.
** Before that, ''The Tombs of Atuan'' took a hard line in warning about the dangers of having blind faith in religious and political institutions.
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** In ''Wizard,'' the marooned brother and sister that Ged meets on a mile-long sandbar. They've lived out their entire lives in miserable isolation through no fault of their own. Ged can't even communicate with them, yet they unwittingly set the events of ''Tombs'' and ''Shore'' into motion.
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* JerkassWoobie: Spark, in ''Tehanu''. He returns from sea and presumptuously reclaims the farm from his mother, though that is his right, and snubs both Tehanu and Ged. He quickly assumes the place of master of the farm and begins treating his mother with the sort of misogynistic condescension common in their culture as well. However, when she announces their departure, he quickly loses his guff, seeming almost lost without his mother already; a picture starts of someone who's lost the one thing he felt drawn to in sailing, falling back on his surviving family the only way he was raised to, and finding even that's changed and different. He does somewhat change his tone from then until his departure, offering all the family's savings to Tenar for their travels, agreeing to carry a message to his sister, and offering an olive branch to Ged in showing him some sailor's knots for his pack.
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* TearJerker: "Firelight", as it's about [[spoiler:Ged's last days, looking back at his adventures and noting how everything came full circle in the end before sailing off to the afterlife in the Lookfar.]]. The RealitySubtext of this being the last Earthsea story and published posthumously just makes it hit all the harder.

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* TearJerker: "Firelight", as it's about [[spoiler:Ged's last days, looking back at his adventures and noting how everything came full circle in the end before sailing off to the afterlife in the Lookfar.]].Lookfar]]. The RealitySubtext of this being the last Earthsea story and published posthumously just makes it hit all the harder.
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** Gelluk in ''Tales from Earthsea''. He is unhinged enough to make all the other villains in the series pale in comparison.
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** The entire concept of ''The Farthest Shore''. Magic is fading in all of the world, people are obsessed with their mortality and going insane (especially wizards), and [[spoiler: there is ''someone'' behind what's happening, someone powerful enough to be able to defeat the dragons and have control on the dead]]. Most people seem to be on the verge on a Main/DespairEventHorizon for almost the whole book.
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** The Tombs of Atuan themselves, a dark, oppressive place underground inhabited by forces of pure malice, which people worship, engaging in Main/HumanSacrifice in their name and building a fanatic religious system (partially) around them.
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** [[spoiler: Ged's Shadow and the way it stalks him for most of ''A Wizard of Earthsea''. One of the most chilling moment is when it possesses Skiorh and it turns to Ged revealing that there is no face under Skiorh's hood.]]
** Tenar/Arha, a ''fifteen-year-old girl'', sentencing three men to death by starvation and having nightmares about their agony at the beginning of ''The Tombs of Atuan''.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ged didn't even appear in the sequel stories despite playing an important role in Tenar's development as a person.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Some think it would have been better for Ged didn't even appear in to have remained a more active force after the sequel stories despite playing an important role in Tenar's development initial trilogy as a person.opposed to much of the spotlight going to Tenar, Tehanu, and Lebannen.
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* TearJerker: "Firelight", as it's about [[spoiler:Ged's last days, looking back at his adventures and noting how everything came full circle in the end before sailing off to the afterlife in the Lookfar.]]. The RealitySubtext of this being the last Earthsea story and published after LeGuin's death just makes it hit all the harder.

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* TearJerker: "Firelight", as it's about [[spoiler:Ged's last days, looking back at his adventures and noting how everything came full circle in the end before sailing off to the afterlife in the Lookfar.]]. The RealitySubtext of this being the last Earthsea story and published after LeGuin's death posthumously just makes it hit all the harder.
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* TearJerker: "Firelight", as it's about [[spoiler:Ged's last days, looking back at his adventures and noting how everything came full circle in the end before sailing off to the afterlife in the Lookfar.]]. The RealitySubtext of this being the last Earthsea story and published after LeGuin's death just makes it hit all the harder.
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** From the other direction, some Harry Potter are of the opinion that where Rowling's books improved as she went as she wrote them, Le Guin's suffer SeasonalRot.

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** From the other direction, some Harry Potter fans are of the opinion that where Rowling's books improved as she went as she wrote them, over time, Le Guin's suffer SeasonalRot.
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* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist. The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and many readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes most readers as markedly less preachy.

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* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist. The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and many some readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes most some readers as markedly less preachy.
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** From the other direction, Harry Potter fans find the later Le Guin books go out of their way to demonize male characters, and where Rowling's books improved as she went as she wrote them, Le Guin's suffer SeasonalRot.

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** From the other direction, some Harry Potter fans find are of the later Le Guin books go out of their way to demonize male characters, and opinion that where Rowling's books improved as she went as she wrote them, Le Guin's suffer SeasonalRot.
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* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist.The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and many readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes most readers as markedly less preachy.

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* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist. The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and many readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes most readers as markedly less preachy.

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** Considering how sexist the earlier Earthsea books are and how a lot of real life women still suffer from the same limitations, probably a case of SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.



** Aspen's motivations was clear enough: he was [[DragonAscendant a follower of Cob]] and jealous of Ogion's trust in Tenar. He used Earthsea's common prejudices against witches (that had been established as far back as the first book) as one of multiple methods by which to attack her, and by extension Ged, and undermine their authority.



* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist. Which, to be fair, they totally were. What else could you call a world that bars women from one of its most important callings (magical education) and has "weak/wicked as women's magic" as a common saying? The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and many readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes most readers as markedly less preachy.

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* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist. Which, to be fair, they totally were. What else could you call a world that bars women from one of its most important callings (magical education) and has "weak/wicked as women's magic" as a common saying? The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and many readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes most readers as markedly less preachy.
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** From the other direction, Harry Potter fans find the later Le Guin books go out of their way to demonize male characters, and where Rowling's books improved as she went as she wrote them, Le Guin's suffer SeasonalRot.
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* FandomRivalry: A little with ''Literature/HarryPotter''; inevitable given the two series' similar premises and that popular things will always be compared to everything. Earthsea fans feel that it was popularity-snubbed in favor of the (to them) more poorly-written/unliterary ''Potter''. It doesn't help that Le Guin herself has criticized the series.
** Most of her venom seems reserved for clueless reporters who don't realize how much Rowling adapted/borrowed from old fantasies (including this one)... Quoth Le Guin, "I read a review that called the Harry Potter Books a great, original work. I agree with the first part."

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* FandomRivalry: A little with ''Literature/HarryPotter''; inevitable given the two series' similar premises and that popular things will always be compared to everything. Earthsea fans feel that it was popularity-snubbed in favor of the (to them) more poorly-written/unliterary ''Potter''. It doesn't help that Le Guin herself has criticized the series.
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series. Most of her venom seems reserved for clueless reporters who don't realize how much Rowling adapted/borrowed from old fantasies (including this one)... Quoth Le Guin, "I one)...
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ged didn't even appear in the sequel stories despite playing an important role in Tenar's development as a person.
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** FridgeBrilliance: [[MakesSenseInContext Makes sense]] when you consider who [[UnreliableNarrator the main character]] of ''Tehanu'' and most of ''The Other Wind'' is.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[WriterOnBoard The feminist themes]] in ''Tehanu'' are the complete opposite of subtle. Thankfully toned down much more in ''The Other Wind''.
** Considering how sexist the earlier Earthsea books are and how a lot of real life women still suffer from the same limitations, probably a case of SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.
* FandomRivalry: A little with ''Literature/HarryPotter''; inevitable given the two series' similar premises and that popular things will always be compared to everything. Earthsea fans feel that it was popularity-snubbed in favor of the (to them) more poorly-written/unliterary ''Potter''. It doesn't help that Le Guin herself has criticized the series.
** Most of her venom seems reserved for clueless reporters who don't realize how much Rowling adapted/borrowed from old fantasies (including this one)... Quoth Le Guin, "I read a review that called the Harry Potter Books a great, original work. I agree with the first part."
* FanonDiscontinuity: Some would rather she'd stopped after the first three.
* FlatCharacter: Aspen seems to exist simply to be there so ''Tehanu'' can have more in-universe feminist themes and a driving antagonist. As a character, it doesn't seem he has ''[[StrawMisogynist any real motives]]'' for completely hating women at all.
** Aspen's motivations was clear enough: he was [[DragonAscendant a follower of Cob]] and jealous of Ogion's trust in Tenar. He used Earthsea's common prejudices against witches (that had been established as far back as the first book) as one of multiple methods by which to attack her, and by extension Ged, and undermine their authority.
* HoYay: Arren's introduction to Ged in ''The Farthest Shore''. Look inside the text, you know it to be true. There's also a little bit between Ged and Vetch in ''A Wizard of Earthsea''.
* SeasonalRot: A common fan response to ''Tehanu'' and subsequent books. ''The Other Wind'' probably attracts the most criticism for the revelation that [[spoiler:the afterlife featured in the original trilogy was actually created by the wizards and blocks human souls from a blissful reincarnation. [[http://web.archive.org/web/20050907131553/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/main/classicswizardearthsea People who admired the bleak and austere character of the "Dry Land"]] tended to feel that this robbed the world of Earthsea of its poignancy]].
* WriterOnBoard: Le Guin was always a feminist, but between writing the third and fourth books of the series, she came to view many of the classic fantasy tropes she'd used in the original trilogy as sexist. Which, to be fair, they totally were. What else could you call a world that bars women from one of its most important callings (magical education) and has "weak/wicked as women's magic" as a common saying? The fourth book, ''Tehanu'', has a drastically different tone and perspective, and many readers ended up feeling like they were being told they were wrong and stupid for having liked the earlier books. The fifth book, ''The Other Wind'', follows up on the themes from ''Tehanu'' but strikes most readers as markedly less preachy.
** FridgeBrilliance: [[MakesSenseInContext Makes sense]] when you consider who [[UnreliableNarrator the main character]] of ''Tehanu'' and most of ''The Other Wind'' is.
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