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!!The book

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Yes, even a book as dark as this can have them.
** Natsuki's uncle apologizing to her for how the adults treated her and Yuu in the past.
** [[spoiler:When Tomoya announces his intent to return to the Factory and divorce Natsuki, reasoning that if he does this, his family will leave her alone, and she'll be free to keep living as an alien. He may be forced to become an earthling, but if Natsuki can be free, it'll be worth it. It's remarkably effective as a HeroicSacrifice. Natsuki is so moved by this that she ''hugs'' her husband for the first time (after previously never having more physical contact with him than a handshake with him), and persuades him to escape the Factory with her. She then says she's glad she came to Earth and married him, showing that, even if it's a MarriageOfConvenience between two bizarre and insane individuals, there's still love there.]]
* NauseaFuel: Where to begin?
** [[spoiler:Natsuki's rape by her teacher is every bit as disgusting and horrible as you'd expect, made worse by how little Natsuki understands what's happening.]]
** [[spoiler:The... detailed description of the trio cannibalizing two people, and later eating bits of each other. At one point Natsuki ''chews on her husband's eyelids''. Aaack! Then there's the fact that "earthing soup" is the first thing Natsuki is actually able to ''taste'' in over two decades.]]
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!!The book
* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Pretty much all of the criticisms that Natsuki has of the "factory" have a point. Some specific examples include: Tomoya's parents advising Tomoya and Natsuki that they should just hurry up and have sex and children already, and, once they've done that, Tomoya can "fool around" ("fooling around" being the "reward" that a man gets for becoming a parent); Natsuki's mother insisting that marriage and children are the only things that can make a woman happy despite having clearly resented her children; Natsuki's sister telling Natsuki that she can only be happy with a husband and family whilst also having an affair, as well as her having [[spoiler: covered up the evidence of Natsuki's crime]], not out of love for her sister, but out of concerns for her own reputation; and Natsuki's friends only being sympathetic upon hearing that she was sexually abused if they didn't know Mr. Igasaki was young/conventionally attractive, and losing sympathy once it becomes clear that her trauma is preventing her from finding a man. It's clear that, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds despite Natsuki committing many unspeakable acts,]] the emotional road she took to get there [[TraumaCongaLine is perfectly understandable]] and is a deliberate criticism of modern Japanese society.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Pretty much all of the criticisms that Natsuki has of the "factory" have a point. Some specific examples include: Tomoya's parents advising Tomoya and Natsuki that they should just hurry up and have sex and children already, and, once they've done that, Tomoya can "fool around" ("fooling around" being the "reward" that a man gets for becoming a parent); Natsuki's mother insisting that marriage and children are the only things that can make a woman happy despite having clearly resented her children; Natsuki's sister telling Natsuki that she can only be happy with a husband and family whilst also having an affair, as well as her having [[spoiler: covered up the evidence of Natsuki's crime]], not out of love for her sister, but out of concerns for her own reputation; and Natsuki's friends only being sympathetic upon hearing that she was sexually abused if they didn't know Mr. Igasaki was young/conventionally attractive, and losing sympathy once it becomes clear that her trauma is preventing her from finding a man. It's clear that, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds despite Natsuki committing many unspeakable acts,]] the emotional road she took to get there [[TraumaCongaLine is perfectly understandable]]and is a deliberate criticism of modern Japanese society.

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Pretty much all of the criticisms that Natsuki has of the "factory" have a point. Some specific examples include: Tomoya's parents advising Tomoya and Natsuki that they should just hurry up and have sex and children already, and, once they've done that, Tomoya can "fool around" ("fooling around" being the "reward" that a man gets for becoming a parent); Natsuki's mother insisting that marriage and children are the only things that can make a woman happy despite having clearly resented her children; Natsuki's sister telling Natsuki that she can only be happy with a husband and family whilst also having an affair, as well as her having [[spoiler: covered up the evidence of Natsuki's crime]], not out of love for her sister, but out of concerns for her own reputation; and Natsuki's friends only being sympathetic upon hearing that she was sexually abused if they didn't know Mr. Igasaki was young/conventionally attractive, and losing sympathy once it becomes clear that her trauma is preventing her from finding a man. It's clear that, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds despite Natsuki committing many unspeakable acts,]] the emotional road she took to get there [[TraumaCongaLine is perfectly understandable]]and understandable]] and is a deliberate criticism of modern Japanese society.

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* {{Squick}}: The footage of factory farms in general.
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** It's not just the animals. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so people can wear their skin.

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!!The documentary



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Pretty much all of the criticisms that Natsuki has of the "factory" have a point. Some specific examples include: Tomoya's parents advising Tomoya and Natsuki that they should just hurry up and have sex and children already, and, once they've done that, Tomoya can "fool around" ("fooling around" being the "reward" that a man gets for becoming a parent); Natsuki's mother insisting that marriage and children are the only things that can make a woman happy despite having clearly resented her children; Natsuki's sister telling Natsuki that she can only be happy with a husband and family whilst also having an affair, as well as her having [[spoiler: covered up the evidence of Natsuki's crime]], not out of love for her sister, but out of concerns for her own reputation; and Natsuki's friends only being sympathetic upon hearing that she was sexually abused if they didn't know Mr. Igasaki was young/conventionally attractive, and losing sympathy once it becomes clear that her trauma is preventing her from finding a man. It's clear that, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds despite Natsuki committing many unspeakable acts,]] the emotional road she took to get there [[TraumaCongaLine is perfectly understandable]]and is a deliberate criticism of modern Japanese society.


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!!The book
* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Pretty much all of the criticisms that Natsuki has of the "factory" have a point. Some specific examples include: Tomoya's parents advising Tomoya and Natsuki that they should just hurry up and have sex and children already, and, once they've done that, Tomoya can "fool around" ("fooling around" being the "reward" that a man gets for becoming a parent); Natsuki's mother insisting that marriage and children are the only things that can make a woman happy despite having clearly resented her children; Natsuki's sister telling Natsuki that she can only be happy with a husband and family whilst also having an affair, as well as her having [[spoiler: covered up the evidence of Natsuki's crime]], not out of love for her sister, but out of concerns for her own reputation; and Natsuki's friends only being sympathetic upon hearing that she was sexually abused if they didn't know Mr. Igasaki was young/conventionally attractive, and losing sympathy once it becomes clear that her trauma is preventing her from finding a man. It's clear that, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds despite Natsuki committing many unspeakable acts,]] the emotional road she took to get there [[TraumaCongaLine is perfectly understandable]]and is a deliberate criticism of modern Japanese society.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Pretty much all of the criticisms that Natsuki has of the "factory" have a point. Some specific examples include: Tomoya's parents advising Tomoya and Natsuki that they should just hurry up and have sex and children already, and, once they've done that, Tomoya can "fool around" ("fooling around" being the "reward" that a man gets for becoming a parent); Natsuki's mother insisting that marriage and children are the only things that can make a woman happy despite having clearly resented her children; Natsuki's sister telling Natsuki that she can only be happy with a husband and family whilst also having an affair, as well as her having [[spoiler: covered up the evidence of Natsuki's crime]], not out of love for her sister, but out of concerns for her own reputation; and Natsuki's friends only being sympathetic upon hearing that she was sexually abused if they didn't know Mr. Igasaki was young/conventionally attractive, and losing sympathy once it becomes clear that her trauma is preventing her from finding a man. It's clear that, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds despite Natsuki committing many unspeakable acts,]] the emotional road she took to get there [[TraumaCongaLine is perfectly understandable]]and is a deliberate criticism of modern Japanese society.

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I agree that this movie is anvilicious, but please explain


* {{Anvilicious}}: This is not a subtle movie.

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** Again, where to start...
** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so people can wear their skin.

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** Again, where to start...
** It's not just the animals either.animals. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so people can wear their skin.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: [[https://web.archive.org/web/20201104185217/https://the-unpopular-opinions.tumblr.com/post/81308663040/this-is-an-opinion-brought-to-you-by-a-rancher This Tumblr post]] from a rancher asserts that the movie tries to extrapolate isolated incidents of animal abuse to farmers and ranchers in general being abusive, while noting that the allegedly-common practices described would be counterproductive in reality.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: This is not a subtle movie. Whether it [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped works]] or [[{{Narm}} not]] depends on the individual.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: This is not a subtle movie. Whether it [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped works]] or [[{{Narm}} not]] depends on the individual.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: [https://web.archive.org/web/20201104185217/https://the-unpopular-opinions.tumblr.com/post/81308663040/this-is-an-opinion-brought-to-you-by-a-rancher This Tumblr post]] from a rancher asserts that the movie tries to extrapolate isolated incidents of animal abuse to farmers and ranchers in general being abusive, while noting that the allegedly-common practices described would be counterproductive in reality.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: [https://web.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20201104185217/https://the-unpopular-opinions.tumblr.com/post/81308663040/this-is-an-opinion-brought-to-you-by-a-rancher This Tumblr post]] from a rancher asserts that the movie tries to extrapolate isolated incidents of animal abuse to farmers and ranchers in general being abusive, while noting that the allegedly-common practices described would be counterproductive in reality.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: [[http://the-unpopular-opinions.tumblr.com/post/81308663040/this-is-an-opinion-brought-to-you-by-a-rancher This Tumblr post]] from a rancher asserts that the movie tries to extrapolate isolated incidents of animal abuse to farmers and ranchers in general being abusive, while noting that the allegedly-common practices described would be counterproductive in reality.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: [[http://the-unpopular-opinions.[https://web.archive.org/web/20201104185217/https://the-unpopular-opinions.tumblr.com/post/81308663040/this-is-an-opinion-brought-to-you-by-a-rancher This Tumblr post]] from a rancher asserts that the movie tries to extrapolate isolated incidents of animal abuse to farmers and ranchers in general being abusive, while noting that the allegedly-common practices described would be counterproductive in reality.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: [[http://the-unpopular-opinions.tumblr.com/post/81308663040/this-is-an-opinion-brought-to-you-by-a-rancher This Tumblr post]] from a rancher asserts that the movie tries to extrapolate isolated incidents of animal abuse to farmers and ranchers in general being abusive, while noting that the allegedly-common practices described would be counterproductive in reality.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Aside from the lack of subtlety in its message, the documentary's [[GodwinsLaw equating modern human society with Nazis]] and farming/eating animals with the Holocaust would be incredibly off-putting (if not downright enraging) to a number of people.

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* {{Squick}}: Oh, boy. Where to start...

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* {{Anvilicious}}: This is not a subtle movie. Whether it [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped works]] or [[{{Narm}} not]] depends on the individual.
* {{Squick}}: Oh, boy. Where to start...The footage of factory farms in general.

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* IThoughtThatWas: It has nothing to do with aliens, despite the title.

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* IThoughtThatWas: It has nothing to do with aliens, despite the title. ----



** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so people can wear their skin.

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** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so people can wear their skin.skin.
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** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so someone can wear their skin.

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** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so someone people can wear their skin.
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** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into giving their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so someone can wear their skin.

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** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into giving selling their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so someone can wear their skin.

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* TearJerker: Again, where to start...

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* TearJerker: TearJerker:
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Again, where to start...start...
** It's not just the animals either. It's hard not to feel for the Hindus who were deceived into giving their beloved cows away to what they thought was a happy life. Little did they know the cows would have to endure hell on earth just so someone can wear their skin.
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* IThoughtThatWas: It has nothing to do with aliens, despite the title.
* {{Squick}}: Oh, boy. Where to start...
* TearJerker: Again, where to start...

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