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** A [[CuteMonsterGirl cute]], [[TalkativeLoon rambling]], overeager CatGirl? [[SarcasmMode No, there's no way Enu would turn out to be incredibly popular.]] The devs have acknowledged as much. Bonus points for being voiced by Creator/JessicaHenwick.
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* AcceptablePoliticalTargets: There are four different political parties mentioned: The Marxists are considered [[WellIntentionedExtremist well intentioned, but far too radical and fringe to appeal to the mainstream voter]]; Kostantin Wolf is ANaziByAnyOtherName; Dieter Gross, the incumbent conservative, has little to no chance of getting re-elected as his party has been plagued by corruption scandals and has been largely blamed for Europolis' economic problems, but he is also considered "boring" (and the fact that he's a white man is brought up against him). The person Zoë supports is Lea Uminska, the only one treated positively (if considered somewhat wishy-washy), who is the democratic socialist. As this is a European game, it's hardly surprising. And even Uminska's positive image only lasts until part way through Book 2.

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* {{Adorkable}}: Kian shows quite a bit of this side in ''Chapters'' between his flimsy grasp on subtlety in conservations, [[TrademarkFavoriteFood his love for yams]], getting nostalgic about apple bobbing, and reading children's stories in secret.
* AcceptablePoliticalTargets: There are four different political parties mentioned: The Marxists are considered [[WellIntentionedExtremist well intentioned, but far too radical and fringe to appeal to the mainstream voter]]; Kostantin Wolf is ANaziByAnyOtherName; Dieter Gross, the incumbent conservative, has little to no chance of getting re-elected as his party has been plagued by corruption scandals and has been largely blamed for Europolis' economic problems, but he is also considered "boring" (and the fact that he's a white man is brought up against him). The person Zoë supports is Lea Uminska, the only one treated positively (if considered somewhat wishy-washy), who is the democratic socialist. As this is a European game, it's hardly surprising. And even Uminska's positive image only lasts until part way through Book 2.
* {{Anvilicious}}:
** The Social Democrats are the only political party spoken of positively. Communists are considered fringe but positive. Conservatives are considered to be either incompetent or evil. WordOfGod suggested this isn't going to hold true through the game - and as of Book 2, you receive a WhamEpisode.
** Books 3 and 4 have the potential for both Kian and Likho to deliver long-winded speeches about acceptance of homosexuality. It doesn't help that, in the whole series of games, they're the only ones who bring it up.
* CatharsisFactor: Admit it - it felt ''VERY'' satisfying to light Onor Hilleriss on fire. And not just because he was going to kill Crow.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Pretty much Mira's character. She's extremely antagonistic, to the point where she thinks Wit is faking his autism, but she's so over the top about it that it comes off as entertaining rather than insulting. Mira [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness tones her act down in book three]] - when the plot starts getting ''real''.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** A [[CuteMonsterGirl cute]], [[TalkativeLoon rambling]], overeager CatGirl? [[SarcasmMode No, there's no way Enu would turn out to be incredibly popular.]] The devs have acknowledged as much.
** On the Stark side, Shitbot. Nothing like an ridiculously overeager robot terrible at everything, gleefully talking about how a security system will kill you. There's also the name... as well as its HeroicSacrifice for Zoë in book three.
** Less popular (simply since most players never meet it), but Shitbot's alternative version Kidbot is also extremely popular. A emoji-faced bot with an adorable voice that plays with you and is just nothing but sweet? Chances are, everytime Zoë goes {{Squee}}, the player will join her.
* HarsherInHindsight: For Europeans (especially Brits), Europolis is either this or Zoë's doctor's comments about how his dad wishes for it to break up is this after the Brexit in 2020.
* ImprovedByTheReCut: A few scrappy-portions (the EscortMission at the start of the game, being forced to make pointless decisions with Baruti) were thankfully changed in the Final Cut.
* JerkassWoobie: Brian Westhouse, the Prophet. He's stuck in an alternate universe. He was also possessed by the Undreaming for several centuries, and even tried to prevent it from getting loose by sealing it in someone else.
* MemeticMutation:
** [[http://i.minus.com/iZXxn8hzmNISd.gif Cannon stroking]] is a popular one among the fanbase[[labelnote:Explanation]]It originated from the {{Website/Kickstarter}} videos [[http://youtu.be/-5h7l4KsCXI?t=41s blooper reel]] [[/labelnote]].
** Sausagequences. ItMakesSenseInContext. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In the first book, one "Choice" that Zoë made was what she buys from Nela for Reza's lunch, Cheese Soup or Pork Sausages. Despite the game saying the choice will give consequences for multiple books, it ultimately turns out to not mean much beyond some minor dialogue changes[[/labelnote]].
* MoralEventHorizon: Ge'en is this for plenty of Azadi - the events of this as well as the planned genocide of Magical races cause some to actually turn against their own commanders.
* {{Narm}}:
** Near the ending to Rebels, as Nela charges towards EYE headquarters with a bomb, you get to say an incredibly awkward and hilarious sound clip. The fact you can shout "NEEEEELLLLLLAAAAAA" repeatedly doesn't help.
** Some puzzles require you to act fast -- such as say listening to a racist person talk. Keep waiting and he will just keep stalling for time.
* PlayerPunch:
** In the very beginning, April's funeral. With a start like this, this story can only end well.
** For some, the deaths of Damien Cavanaugh (and how he was framed for the Dreammachine fiasco) and Olivia de Marco (because [[KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade she knew too much]]) are quite harsh.
** The death of Baruti, the game saying "Your choices have led you to this point" doesn't do ''any'' extra justice... Followed by Nela's death... especially if you were nice to them.
** The much more minor example: The deaths of Kidbot or Shitbot when they get you out of Mr. London's warehouse. Either you've grown to like Kidbot for how cute it is and Shitbot for how hilarious it is, or just feel their responses as they go out are bad.
** A raid on the Resistance Headquarters in Book 4. Blind Bob is dead, and depending on your choices, Shepherd[[note]]if Likho went with Kian[[/note]], Likho[[note]]if he was left behind[[/note]] or Enu[[note]]if Na'ane's treason was exposed[[/note]] will also be dead.
** In Book 5, Crow is killed rather abruptly when the Prophet snaps his neck.
* TheScrappy:
** Anna isn't particularly well-liked for essentially being a StalkerWithACrush toward Kian, and forcing herself onto him even though he clearly has no interest in her.
** Likho has few fans, for the {{Anvilicious}} way he talks about homosexuality. Also, because getting along with him requires rejecting EnsembleDarkhorse Enu. He gets somewhat saved from this, if one let's him come along to Ge'en where he will open up and may become like a brother to Kian. It may not save him though if people prefered Shepherd over him.
* TakeThatScrappy: Saga gets in a decent slam against her, towards the end of the game.
-->"I have no idea who you are, so I'm going to assume you're not that important."
* ThatOneBoss: When a gun is pulled on Likho/Hami, you have to turn BEHIND you instead of warning him or knocking down the person with the gun.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans were very vocal about the main character Zoë [[https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/397998/photo-main.jpg?1359986434 now having a nose piercing]]. The developers are considering to give the player the option whether wearing it or not. However she lacks one in the game proper, so it could be a case of AuthorsSavingThrow.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Emma is exhibiting her art in Europolis, which is mentioned early in game, and you can hope she and Charlie will at least finally learn about April's fate. Nope, they're still in the dark by the end and no one remembers about them. She's only mentioned in Book 5, and it's merely WATI's hologram so it's barely a cameo.
* SpecialEffectFailure:
** The game looks ''beautiful'', especially on modern computers. Despite this, the characters' hair is rendered as a stiff piece - and this can lead to some rather embarrassing mishaps such as Zoë's hair clipping through her clothes.
** The scene with a confrontation is unintentionally hilarious for several reasons: First off, the goons are holding a man's arms behind his back, and his fingers clip through them. Then a man, if Zoë chooses to interfere, will speak to her in Cantonese. His cane is visibly clipping into his shoulder and a humorous glitch can happen where his mouth doesn't open when he talks.
** Some of Anna's scenes turn into {{Narm}} when you see her hair ''visibly'' clipping through her hood and her scarf.
** The limitations of the Unity Engine show again - characters mouth movements sometimes look more like they're just flapping their mouths.
** The game uses multiple audio channels, so it can quickly happen that there are two to three dialogues happening at the same time (such as looking at something, then instantly going into a conversation plus a NPC conversation happening in the background.
** Looking at an object multiple times to quickly can lead to no audio, with the subtitles looping. Or with the audio suddenly switching from one description to the other in the middle.
** The eyes of the game characters seem to be unable to focus on anything, resulting in a lot of [[ThousandYardStare thousand yard stares]].
* TheWoobie:
** Zoë tells her story at the very beginning of the game. She uncovered a conspiracy and her own mother, Helena Chang, put her into a coma. Zoë's had months to come to terms with it, but it's still pretty raw for her. She's also lost Olivia (her best friend) and Damien (her partner and [[ShipTease romantic love interest]] after Reza).
** Saga, who spent much of her childhood essentially as a prisoner in The House Of All Worlds. [[note]]Although, it's because her father feared losing her to the aether, like her mother.[[/note]] As an adult, it's implied that, although she has the power to "walk between worlds", she still doesn't seem to have much agency in her life. Always having to follow certain prophecies, making sure certain things happen, etc.
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* AcceptablePoliticalTargets: There are four different political parties mentioned: The Marxists are considered [[WellIntentionedExtremist well intentioned, but far too radical and fringe to appeal to the mainstream voter]]; Kostantin Wolf is ANaziByAnyOtherName; Dieter Gross, the incumbent conservative, has little to no chance of getting re-elected as his party has been plagued by corruption scandals and has been largely blamed for Europolis' economic problems, but he is also considered "boring" (and the fact that he's a white man is brought up against him). The person Zoe supports is Lea Uminska, the only one treated positively (if considered somewhat wishy-washy), who is the democratic socialist. As this is a European game, it's hardly surprising. [[spoiler:And even Uminska's positive image only lasts until part way through Book 2.]]
* {{Anvilicious}}:
** The Social Democrats are the only political party spoken off positively. Communists are considered fringe but positive. Conservatives are considered to be either incompetent or evil. WordOfGod suggested it wasn't going to hold true through the game - and as of Book 2, when you receive a WhamEpisode...
** Books 3 and 4 have the potential for both Kian and Likho to deliver long-winded speeches about acceptance of homosexuality. It doesn't help that, in the whole series of games, they're the only ones to bring it up.
* CatharsisFactor: Admit it - it felt ''VERY'' satisfying to [[spoiler: light Onor Hilleriss on fire. And not just because he was going to kill Crow.]]
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Pretty much Mira's character. She's extremely antagonistic, to the point where she thinks Wit is faking his autism, but she's so over the top about it that it comes off as entertaining rather than insulting. Mira [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness tones her act down in book three]] - when the plot starts getting ''real''.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** A [[CuteMonsterGirl cute]], [[TalkativeLoon rambling]], overeager CatGirl? [[SarcasmMode No, there's no way Enu would turn out to be incredibly popular.]] The devs have acknowledged as much.
** On the Stark side, Shitbot. Nothing like an ridiculously overeager robot terrible at everything, gleefully talking about how a security system will kill you. There's also the name... [[spoiler: as well as its HeroicSacrifice for Zoë in book three]]
** Less popular (simply since most players never meet it), but Shitbots alternative version is also extremely popular. A emoji-faced bot with an adorable voice that plays with you and is just nothing but sweet? Chances are, everytime Zoë goes {{Squee}}, the player will join her.
** Saga, due to her mysterious background.
* FollowTheLeader: This game seems almost like the kind of game that would be made if you took the employees of a Creator/TelltaleGames product and put them on another product. This is actually [[TropesAreTools not a bad thing at all]] - Some players of both products found the similarities more appealing, and a few even believe that they did a few aspects about the Telltale formula better than Telltale.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** For Europeans (Especially Brits), Europolis is either this or Zoë's doctor's comments about how his dad wishes for it to break up is this.
** Onor Hilleriss' running for City Watch, sexist views, and stance against people who are different, eerily mirrors the persona of President Donald Trump.
* JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler: Brian Westhouse, the Prophet. He's stuck in an alternate universe. He was also possessed by the Undreaming for several centuries, and even tried to prevent it from getting loose by sealing it in someone else.]] However, some of his cruel actions don't come off as [[spoiler: the sole fault of the Undreaming.]]
* MemeticMutation: [[http://i.minus.com/iZXxn8hzmNISd.gif Cannon stroking]] is a popular one among the fanbase[[labelnote:Explanation]]It originated from the {{Website/Kickstarter}} videos [[http://youtu.be/-5h7l4KsCXI?t=41s blooper reel]] [[/labelnote]].
** Sausagequences. ItMakesSenseInContext. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In the first book, one "Choice" that Zoë made was what she buys from Nela for Reza's lunch, Cheese Soup or Pork Sausages. Despite the game saying the choice will give consequences for multiple books, it ultimately turns out to not mean much beyond some minor dialogue changes[[/labelnote]].
* MoralEventHorizon: Ge'en is this for plenty of Azadi - the events of this as well as the planned [[spoiler: Genocide]] of Magical races cause some to actually turn against their own commanders
* MostAnnoyingSound: During the brief first interlude when playing as Saga, Saga will run and make really annoying baby noises. Since she walks very slowly, most people will instinctively hold down the key.
* {{Narm}}: Near the ending to Rebels, as [[spoiler:Nela charges towards EYE headquarters with a bomb]], you get to say an incredibly awkward and hilarious sound clip. The fact you can shout [[spoiler:"NEEEEELLLLLLAAAAAA"]] repeatedly doesn't help.
** Can be invoked by the player. Some puzzles require you to act fast - such as say listening to a racist person talk. Keep waiting and he will just keep stalling for time.
* NoExportForYou: The final decision to have the game cut into episodes made things very difficult for quite a few foreign publishers, who ended up not being able to release the game in a particular language. One of those was Poland's [[Creator/CDProjektRed cdp.pl]] who had already confirmed that the newest installment of the much beloved there saga would, just like the previous two, receive full Polish voice over. When Red Thread Games announced that the game would not be released as a single entity but rather split into chapters, CD Projekt had to pull the plug on the whole project. Ironically, while investigating the whole thing one of fans called the actress who had played Zoë in ''Dreamfall'' and she initially believed he was offering her to reprise her role in ''Chapters'', which she was allegedly very enthusiastic about.
** On the whole, when it comes to languages, Red Thread Games earned quite a lot of hate from its foreign or even domestic fanbase, seeing as the game, part of a franchise that's widely considered the crowning achievement of the Norwegian gaming industry, did not get any Norwegian version at all (as opposed to the previous two) and was instead available only with English and German-speaking casts as well as with French subtitles. To make things worse, the latter two were notoriously released with massive delays compared to English.
* PlayerPunch:
** In the very beginning, [[spoiler:April's funeral]]. With a start like this, this story can only end well.
** For some, the deaths of Damien Cavanaugh (and how he was framed for the Dreammachine fiasco) and Olivia de Marco (because [[KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade she knew too much]]) are quite harsh.
** The death of [[spoiler: Baruti]], the game saying "Your choices have led you to this point" doesn't do ''any'' extra justice... Followed by [[spoiler: Nela's death]]... especially if you were nice to them.
** The much more minor example: The deaths of [[spoiler: Kidbot or Shitbot when they get you out of Mr. London's warehouse. Either you've grown to like Kidbot for how cute it is and Shitbot for how hilarious it is, or just feel their responses as they go out are bad.]]
** A raid on the [[spoiler: Resistance Headquarters in Book 4. Blind Bob is dead, and depending on your choices, Shepherd[[note]]if Likho went with Kian[[/note]], Likho[[note]]if he was left behind[[/note]] or Enu[[note]]if Na'ane's treason was exposed[[/note]] will also be dead.]]
** In book 5 [[spoiler: Crow is killed rather abruptly when the Prophet snaps his neck.]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: A few scrappy-portions (the EscortMission at the start of the game, being forced to make pointless decisions with Baruti) were thankfully changed in the Final Cut.
* TheScrappy:
** Anna isn't particularly well-liked for essentially being a StalkerWithACrush toward Kian, and forcing herself onto him even though he clearly has no interest in her.
*** TakeThatScrappy: Saga gets in a decent slam against her, towards the end of the game.
-->"I have no idea who you are, so I'm going to assume you're not that important."
** Likho has few fans, for the {{Anvilicious}} way he talks about homosexuality. Also, because getting along with him requires rejecting EnsembleDarkhorse Enu. He gets somewhat saved from this, if one let's him come along to Ge'en where he will open up and may become like a brother to Kia. It may not save him though if [[spoiler: people prefered Shepherd over him]].
* ThatOneBoss: When [[spoiler: a gun is pulled on Likho/Hami]], you have to [[spoiler: turn BEHIND you]] instead of warning him or knocking down the person with the gun.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans are very vocal about the main character Zoë [[https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/397998/photo-main.jpg?1359986434 now having a nose piercing]]. The developers are considering to give the player the option whether wearing it or not. However she lacks one in the game proper, so it could be a case of AuthorsSavingThrow.
* UncannyValley: Sometimes, the models look... wrong, between the flapping jaws (See SpecialEffectFailure) or Kian's eyes bugging out. Even in the Final Cut, some models look... strange.
* SpecialEffectFailure:
** The game looks ''beautiful'', especially on modern computers. Despite this, the characters' hair is rendered as a stiff piece - and this can lead to some rather embarrassing mishaps such as Zoë's hair clipping through her clothes.
** The scene with a confrontation is unintentionally hilarious for several reasons: First off, the goons are holding a man's arms behind his back, and his fingers clip through them. Then a man, if Zoë chooses to interfere, will speak to her in Cantonese. His cane is visibly clipping into his shoulder and a humorous glitch can happen where his mouth doesn't open when he talks.
** Some of Anna's scenes turn into {{Narm}} when you see her hair ''visibly'' clipping through her hood and her scarf.
** The limitations of the Unity Engine show again - characters mouth movements sometimes look more like they're just flapping their mouths.
** The game uses multiple audio channels, so it can quickly happen that there are two to three dialogues happening at the same time (such as looking at something, then instantly going into a conversation plus a NPC conversation happening in the background.
** Looking at an object multiple times to quickly can lead to no audio, with the subtitles looping. Or with the audio suddenly switching from one description to the other in the middle.
** The eyes of the game characters seem to be unable to focus on anything, resulting in a lot of [[ThousandYardStare thousand yard stares]].
* TheWoobie: Zoe tells her story at the very beginning of the game. She uncovered a conspiracy and her own mother, Helena Chang, put her into a coma. Zoe's had months to come to terms with it, but it's still pretty raw for her. She's also lost Olivia (her best friend) and Damien (her partner and [[ShipTease romantic love interest]] after Reza).
** Saga, who spent much of her childhood essentially as a prisoner in The House Of All Worlds. [[note]]Although, it's because her father feared losing her to the aether, like her mother.[[/note]] As an adult, it's implied that, although she has the power to "walk between worlds", she still doesn't seem to have much free-will in her life. Always having to follow certain prophecies, making sure certain things happen, etc.
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* AcceptablePoliticalTargets: There are four different political parties mentioned: The Marxists are considered [[WellIntentionedExtremist well intentioned, but far too radical and fringe to appeal to the mainstream voter]]; Kostantin Wolf is ANaziByAnyOtherName; Dieter Gross, the incumbent conservative, has little to no chance of getting re-elected as his party has been plagued by corruption scandals and has been largely blamed for Europolis' economic problems, but he is also considered "boring" (and the fact that he's a white man is brought up against him). The person Zoe supports is Lea Uminska, the only one treated positively (if considered somewhat wishy-washy), who is the democratic socialist. As this is a European game, it's hardly surprising. [[spoiler:And even Uminska's positive image only lasts until part way through Book 2.]]
* {{Anvilicious}}:
** The Social Democrats are the only political party spoken off positively. Communists are considered fringe but positive. Conservatives are considered to be either incompetent or evil. WordOfGod suggested it wasn't going to hold true through the game - and as of Book 2, when you receive a WhamEpisode...
** Books 3 and 4 have the potential for both Kian and Likho to deliver long-winded speeches about acceptance of homosexuality. It doesn't help that, in the whole series of games, they're the only ones to bring it up.
* CatharsisFactor: Admit it - it felt ''VERY'' satisfying to [[spoiler: light Onor Hilleriss on fire. And not just because he was going to kill Crow.]]
* CrossesTheLineTwice: Pretty much Mira's character. She's extremely antagonistic, to the point where she thinks Wit is faking his autism, but she's so over the top about it that it comes off as entertaining rather than insulting. Mira [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness tones her act down in book three]] - when the plot starts getting ''real''.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** A [[CuteMonsterGirl cute]], [[TalkativeLoon rambling]], overeager CatGirl? [[SarcasmMode No, there's no way Enu would turn out to be incredibly popular.]] The devs have acknowledged as much.
** On the Stark side, Shitbot. Nothing like an ridiculously overeager robot terrible at everything, gleefully talking about how a security system will kill you. There's also the name... [[spoiler: as well as its HeroicSacrifice for Zoë in book three]]
** Less popular (simply since most players never meet it), but Shitbots alternative version is also extremely popular. A emoji-faced bot with an adorable voice that plays with you and is just nothing but sweet? Chances are, everytime Zoë goes {{Squee}}, the player will join her.
** Saga, due to her mysterious background.
* FollowTheLeader: This game seems almost like the kind of game that would be made if you took the employees of a Creator/TelltaleGames product and put them on another product. This is actually [[TropesAreTools not a bad thing at all]] - Some players of both products found the similarities more appealing, and a few even believe that they did a few aspects about the Telltale formula better than Telltale.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** For Europeans (Especially Brits), Europolis is either this or Zoë's doctor's comments about how his dad wishes for it to break up is this.
** Onor Hilleriss' running for City Watch, sexist views, and stance against people who are different, eerily mirrors the persona of President Donald Trump.
* JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler: Brian Westhouse, the Prophet. He's stuck in an alternate universe. He was also possessed by the Undreaming for several centuries, and even tried to prevent it from getting loose by sealing it in someone else.]] However, some of his cruel actions don't come off as [[spoiler: the sole fault of the Undreaming.]]
* MemeticMutation: [[http://i.minus.com/iZXxn8hzmNISd.gif Cannon stroking]] is a popular one among the fanbase[[labelnote:Explanation]]It originated from the {{Website/Kickstarter}} videos [[http://youtu.be/-5h7l4KsCXI?t=41s blooper reel]] [[/labelnote]].
** Sausagequences. ItMakesSenseInContext. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In the first book, one "Choice" that Zoë made was what she buys from Nela for Reza's lunch, Cheese Soup or Pork Sausages. Despite the game saying the choice will give consequences for multiple books, it ultimately turns out to not mean much beyond some minor dialogue changes[[/labelnote]].
* MoralEventHorizon: Ge'en is this for plenty of Azadi - the events of this as well as the planned [[spoiler: Genocide]] of Magical races cause some to actually turn against their own commanders
* MostAnnoyingSound: During the brief first interlude when playing as Saga, Saga will run and make really annoying baby noises. Since she walks very slowly, most people will instinctively hold down the key.
* {{Narm}}: Near the ending to Rebels, as [[spoiler:Nela charges towards EYE headquarters with a bomb]], you get to say an incredibly awkward and hilarious sound clip. The fact you can shout [[spoiler:"NEEEEELLLLLLAAAAAA"]] repeatedly doesn't help.
** Can be invoked by the player. Some puzzles require you to act fast - such as say listening to a racist person talk. Keep waiting and he will just keep stalling for time.
* NoExportForYou: The final decision to have the game cut into episodes made things very difficult for quite a few foreign publishers, who ended up not being able to release the game in a particular language. One of those was Poland's [[Creator/CDProjektRed cdp.pl]] who had already confirmed that the newest installment of the much beloved there saga would, just like the previous two, receive full Polish voice over. When Red Thread Games announced that the game would not be released as a single entity but rather split into chapters, CD Projekt had to pull the plug on the whole project. Ironically, while investigating the whole thing one of fans called the actress who had played Zoë in ''Dreamfall'' and she initially believed he was offering her to reprise her role in ''Chapters'', which she was allegedly very enthusiastic about.
** On the whole, when it comes to languages, Red Thread Games earned quite a lot of hate from its foreign or even domestic fanbase, seeing as the game, part of a franchise that's widely considered the crowning achievement of the Norwegian gaming industry, did not get any Norwegian version at all (as opposed to the previous two) and was instead available only with English and German-speaking casts as well as with French subtitles. To make things worse, the latter two were notoriously released with massive delays compared to English.
* PlayerPunch:
** In the very beginning, [[spoiler:April's funeral]]. With a start like this, this story can only end well.
** For some, the deaths of Damien Cavanaugh (and how he was framed for the Dreammachine fiasco) and Olivia de Marco (because [[KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade she knew too much]]) are quite harsh.
** The death of [[spoiler: Baruti]], the game saying "Your choices have led you to this point" doesn't do ''any'' extra justice... Followed by [[spoiler: Nela's death]]... especially if you were nice to them.
** The much more minor example: The deaths of [[spoiler: Kidbot or Shitbot when they get you out of Mr. London's warehouse. Either you've grown to like Kidbot for how cute it is and Shitbot for how hilarious it is, or just feel their responses as they go out are bad.]]
** A raid on the [[spoiler: Resistance Headquarters in Book 4. Blind Bob is dead, and depending on your choices, Shepherd[[note]]if Likho went with Kian[[/note]], Likho[[note]]if he was left behind[[/note]] or Enu[[note]]if Na'ane's treason was exposed[[/note]] will also be dead.]]
** In book 5 [[spoiler: Crow is killed rather abruptly when the Prophet snaps his neck.]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: A few scrappy-portions (the EscortMission at the start of the game, being forced to make pointless decisions with Baruti) were thankfully changed in the Final Cut.
* TheScrappy:
** Anna isn't particularly well-liked for essentially being a StalkerWithACrush toward Kian, and forcing herself onto him even though he clearly has no interest in her.
*** TakeThatScrappy: Saga gets in a decent slam against her, towards the end of the game.
-->"I have no idea who you are, so I'm going to assume you're not that important."
** Likho has few fans, for the {{Anvilicious}} way he talks about homosexuality. Also, because getting along with him requires rejecting EnsembleDarkhorse Enu. He gets somewhat saved from this, if one let's him come along to Ge'en where he will open up and may become like a brother to Kia. It may not save him though if [[spoiler: people prefered Shepherd over him]].
* ThatOneBoss: When [[spoiler: a gun is pulled on Likho/Hami]], you have to [[spoiler: turn BEHIND you]] instead of warning him or knocking down the person with the gun.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans are very vocal about the main character Zoë [[https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/397998/photo-main.jpg?1359986434 now having a nose piercing]]. The developers are considering to give the player the option whether wearing it or not. However she lacks one in the game proper, so it could be a case of AuthorsSavingThrow.
* UncannyValley: Sometimes, the models look... wrong, between the flapping jaws (See SpecialEffectFailure) or Kian's eyes bugging out. Even in the Final Cut, some models look... strange.
* SpecialEffectFailure:
** The game looks ''beautiful'', especially on modern computers. Despite this, the characters' hair is rendered as a stiff piece - and this can lead to some rather embarrassing mishaps such as Zoë's hair clipping through her clothes.
** The scene with a confrontation is unintentionally hilarious for several reasons: First off, the goons are holding a man's arms behind his back, and his fingers clip through them. Then a man, if Zoë chooses to interfere, will speak to her in Cantonese. His cane is visibly clipping into his shoulder and a humorous glitch can happen where his mouth doesn't open when he talks.
** Some of Anna's scenes turn into {{Narm}} when you see her hair ''visibly'' clipping through her hood and her scarf.
** The limitations of the Unity Engine show again - characters mouth movements sometimes look more like they're just flapping their mouths.
** The game uses multiple audio channels, so it can quickly happen that there are two to three dialogues happening at the same time (such as looking at something, then instantly going into a conversation plus a NPC conversation happening in the background.
** Looking at an object multiple times to quickly can lead to no audio, with the subtitles looping. Or with the audio suddenly switching from one description to the other in the middle.
** The eyes of the game characters seem to be unable to focus on anything, resulting in a lot of [[ThousandYardStare thousand yard stares]].
* TheWoobie: Zoe tells her story at the very beginning of the game. She uncovered a conspiracy and her own mother, Helena Chang, put her into a coma. Zoe's had months to come to terms with it, but it's still pretty raw for her. She's also lost Olivia (her best friend) and Damien (her partner and [[ShipTease romantic love interest]] after Reza).
** Saga, who spent much of her childhood essentially as a prisoner in The House Of All Worlds. [[note]]Although, it's because her father feared losing her to the aether, like her mother.[[/note]] As an adult, it's implied that, although she has the power to "walk between worlds", she still doesn't seem to have much free-will in her life. Always having to follow certain prophecies, making sure certain things happen, etc.
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* TearJerker:
** The game's beginning, with April's [[VikingFuneral Viking Funeral]], for all long-term fans of the series, at least.
** [[spoiler: Olivia, Zoë's friend, and Damien were killed.]]
** In Rebels, we discover that the cute little Banda [[spoiler: are all dead except for one old woman who mourns her people greatly. It gets worse when you see her again as she decides to return to the place where they were all killed so that she can be with them in death. Although it gets better in Book 4 when there is at least one more left.]]
** The ending to Book 4. [[spoiler:Saga's father, knocking the wall and crying in desperation.]]
** [[spoiler: The sudden and brutal death of Crow, the plucky comic relief character.]]
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* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: Usually Kian is stoic and the various injustices we see make only a mild impact on him. When he discovers [[spoiler: an Azadi soldier who's been molesting an underage Dolmari girl,]] he is furious. Kian then has the option to torture and kill him.
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** Saga, who spent much of her childhood essentially as a prisoner in The House Of All Worlds. [[note]]Although, it's because her father feared losing her to the aether, like her mother.[[/note]] As an adult, it's implied that, although she has the power to "walk between worlds, she still doesn't seem to have much free-will in her life. Always having to follow certain prophecies, making sure certain things happen, etc.

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** Saga, who spent much of her childhood essentially as a prisoner in The House Of All Worlds. [[note]]Although, it's because her father feared losing her to the aether, like her mother.[[/note]] As an adult, it's implied that, although she has the power to "walk between worlds, worlds", she still doesn't seem to have much free-will in her life. Always having to follow certain prophecies, making sure certain things happen, etc.
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** Saga, who spent much of her childhood essentially as a prisoner in The House Of All Worlds. [[note]]Although, it's because her father feared losing her to the aether, like her mother.[[/note]] As an adult, it's implied that, although she has the power to "walk between worlds, she still doesn't seem to have much free-will in her life. Always having to follow certain prophecies, making sure certain things happen, etc.
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*** TakeThatScrappy: Saga gets in a decent slam against her, towards the end of the game.
-->"I have no idea who you are, so I'm going to assume you're not that important."
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** Onor Hilleriss' running for City Watch, sexist views, and stance against people who are different, eerily mirrors the persona of President Donald Trump.
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** Likho has few fans, for the {{Anvilicious}} way he talks about homosexuality. Also, because getting along with him requires rejecting EnsembleDarkhorse Enu.

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** Likho has few fans, for the {{Anvilicious}} way he talks about homosexuality. Also, because getting along with him requires rejecting EnsembleDarkhorse Enu. He gets somewhat saved from this, if one let's him come along to Ge'en where he will open up and may become like a brother to Kia. It may not save him though if [[spoiler: people prefered Shepherd over him]].
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** Less popular (simply since most players never meet it), but Shitbots alternative version is also extremely popular. A emoji-faced bot with an adorable voice that plays with you and is just nothing but sweet? Chances are, everytime Zoë goes {{Squee}}, the player will join her.
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* MemeticMutation: [[http://i.minus.com/iZXxn8hzmNISd.gif Cannon stroking]] is a popular one among the fanbase[[labelnote:Explanation]]It originated from the KickStarter videos [[http://youtu.be/-5h7l4KsCXI?t=41s blooper reel]] [[/labelnote]].

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* MemeticMutation: [[http://i.minus.com/iZXxn8hzmNISd.gif Cannon stroking]] is a popular one among the fanbase[[labelnote:Explanation]]It originated from the KickStarter {{Website/Kickstarter}} videos [[http://youtu.be/-5h7l4KsCXI?t=41s blooper reel]] [[/labelnote]].
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** For Europeans ''and'' Americans, the amount of references to "Fascism" as well as the reference of the right-winged parties (comparing them to [[ANaziByAnyOtherName other fascists]]) may also come off as this, after 2016.
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** Sausagequences. ItMakesSenseInContext. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In the first book, one "Choice" that Zoë made was what she buys from Nela for Reza's lunch, Cheese Soup or Pork Sausages. Despite the game saying the choice will give consequences for multiple books, it ultimately turns out to not mean much beyond some minor dialogue changes]].

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** Sausagequences. ItMakesSenseInContext. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In the first book, one "Choice" that Zoë made was what she buys from Nela for Reza's lunch, Cheese Soup or Pork Sausages. Despite the game saying the choice will give consequences for multiple books, it ultimately turns out to not mean much beyond some minor dialogue changes]].changes[[/labelnote]].
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** For Europeans (Especially Brits), Europolis is either this or Zoë's doctor's comments about how his dad wishes for it to break up is this.
** For Europeans ''and'' Americans, the amount of references to "Fascism" as well as the reference of the right-winged parties (comparing them to [[ANaziByAnyOtherName other fascists]]) may also come off as this, after 2016.


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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: A few scrappy-portions (the EscortMission at the start of the game, being forced to make pointless decisions with Baruti) were thankfully changed in the Final Cut.

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* UncannyValley: Sometimes, the models look... wrong, between the flapping jaws (See SpecialEffectFailure) or Kian's eyes bugging out. Even in the Final Cut, some models look... strange.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans are very vocal about the main character Zoë [[https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/397998/photo-main.jpg?1359986434 now having a nose piercing]]. The developers are considering to give the player the option whether wearing it or not. However she lacks one in the game proper, so it could be a case of FanBacklash.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans are very vocal about the main character Zoë [[https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/397998/photo-main.jpg?1359986434 now having a nose piercing]]. The developers are considering to give the player the option whether wearing it or not. However she lacks one in the game proper, so it could be a case of FanBacklash.AuthorsSavingThrow.
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* NoExportForYou: The final decision to have the game cut into episodes made things very difficult for quite a few foreign publishers, who ended up not being able to release the game in a particular language. One of those was Poland's [[Creator/CDProjektRed cdp.pl]] who had already confirmed that the newest installment of the much beloved there saga would, just like the previous two, receive full Polish voice over. When Red Thread Games announced that the game would not be released as a single entity but rather split into chapters, CD Projekt had to pull the plug on the whole project. Ironically, while investigating the whole thing one of fans called the actress who had played Zoë in ''Dreamfall'' and she initially believed he was offering her to reprise her role in ''Chapters'', which she was allegedly very enthusiastic about.
** On the whole, when it comes to languages, Red Thread Games earned quite a lot of hate from its foreign or even domestic fanbase, seeing as the game, part of a franchise that's widely considered the crowning achievement of the Norwegian gaming industry, did not get any Norwegian version at all (as opposed to the previous two) and was instead available only with English and German-speaking casts as well as with French subtitles. To make things worse, the latter two were notoriously released with massive delays compared to English.

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