History YMMV / Dragonball

19th Feb '18 5:06:28 AM JamesAustin
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** Few topics on the internet (outside of {{Shipping}}) can match the volatility brought about by the question: who would win in a fight between Goku and Franchise/{{Superman}}? Fanart, essays, and ridiculously detailed videos have been created in an effort to solve that question. Plus there's little doubt there'll be more fuel to come with Goku's steadily increasing power over the course of the franchise.



** With the ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' fandom, mostly with arguments in who would win between Saitama and Goku.

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** With the ''Dragon Ball'' also has a rivalry with ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' fandom, mostly with arguments in who would win between for the same reason as Superman. There have been wars over whether Saitama and Goku.is stronger than Goku or vice versa. Ironically, ''One Punch Man'' is an affectionate parody of Shounen tropes with characters being expies of ''Dragon Ball'' characters (e.g. Boros). Still, that doesn't stop fans from comparing who is stronger of the two.
18th Feb '18 7:55:26 PM rockysavannah
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** Any time Shenron, the Eternal Dragon, is summoned



** Goku removing Bulma's underwear and screaming that her balls are gone.



** Before that, Goku removing Bulma's underwear and screaming that her balls are gone.
** Master Roshi using a Kamehameha to blow away the fire on Frying Pan Mountain.

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** Before that, Goku removing Bulma's underwear and screaming that her balls are gone.
** Master Roshi using a Kamehameha wave to blow away the fire on Frying Pan Mountain.



** Goku's transformations into a gigantic ape in the first two arcs.

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** Any time Shenron, the Eternal Dragon, is summoned (this goes for all series)
** Goku's transformations transformation into a gigantic ape in the first two arcs.


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** Goku climbing up Korin Tower.
** Krillin's death.
6th Feb '18 1:13:57 AM SpaceDrake
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** Several of the jokes in the early parts of the manga when it was still largely a comedy [[DudeNotFunny have not aged well]]. One very early chapter features Oolong [[SlippingAMickey drugging Bulma]] and trying to molest her in her sleep, which is PlayedForLaughs, and General Blue is a DepravedHomosexual played absolutely straight (which would've been [[FairForItsDay considered more acceptable for publication in the mid 80s]], but needless to say very quickly was realized as a terrible stereotype and fell out of favor even by the time ''Z'' got really popular in America). The anime makes Blue even ''worse'' by implying him to be a pedophile on top of being gay (which, again, a depressingly common view in the [=80s=] during production... and ''thoroughly'' and rightly discredited not ten years later).

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** Several of the jokes in the early parts of the manga when it was still largely a comedy [[DudeNotFunny have not aged well]]. One very early chapter features Oolong [[SlippingAMickey drugging Bulma]] and trying to molest her in her sleep, which is PlayedForLaughs, and General Blue is a DepravedHomosexual played absolutely straight (which would've been [[FairForItsDay considered more acceptable for publication in the mid 80s]], but needless to say was very quickly was realized as a terrible stereotype and fell out of favor even by the time ''Z'' got really popular in America). The anime makes Blue even ''worse'' by implying him to be a pedophile on top of being gay (which, again, a depressingly common view in the [=80s=] during production... and ''thoroughly'' and rightly discredited not ten years later).
6th Feb '18 1:12:31 AM SpaceDrake
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** Several of the jokes in the early parts of the manga when it was still largely a comedy [[DudeNotFunny have not aged well]]. One very early chapter features Oolong [[SlippingAMickey drugging Bulma]] and trying to molest her in her sleep, which is PlayedForLaughs, and General Blue is a DepravedHomosexual played absolutely straight. The anime makes Blue even worse by implying him to be a pedophile on top of being gay.

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** Several of the jokes in the early parts of the manga when it was still largely a comedy [[DudeNotFunny have not aged well]]. One very early chapter features Oolong [[SlippingAMickey drugging Bulma]] and trying to molest her in her sleep, which is PlayedForLaughs, and General Blue is a DepravedHomosexual played absolutely straight. straight (which would've been [[FairForItsDay considered more acceptable for publication in the mid 80s]], but needless to say very quickly was realized as a terrible stereotype and fell out of favor even by the time ''Z'' got really popular in America). The anime makes Blue even worse ''worse'' by implying him to be a pedophile on top of being gay.gay (which, again, a depressingly common view in the [=80s=] during production... and ''thoroughly'' and rightly discredited not ten years later).
5th Feb '18 6:32:03 AM JamesAustin
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** With ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' fans in Latin America, particularly Brazil.

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** With ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' fans in Latin America, particularly Brazil.Brazil, where both were GatewaySeries for anime and manga, leading to discussions among both fandoms about which one was the best.



** The scene where Pilaf blows a kiss to Bulma in the Pilaf Saga becomes hilarious when his Japanese voice actor, Creator/ShigeruChiba, ends up ([[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy another silly villain]] who has a huge amount of FoeYay[=/=]somewhat {{Yandere}}-esque traits towards his nemesis. And the villain's nemesis, [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Terra Branford]], has an alternate costume that gives her a slightly similar appearance to Bulma.[[note]]In case anyone's curious, the alternate costume was based on her field sprite in her original game.[[/note]]

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** The scene where Pilaf blows a kiss to Bulma in the Pilaf Saga becomes hilarious when his Japanese voice actor, Creator/ShigeruChiba, ends up ([[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy voicing [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy another silly villain]] who has a huge amount of FoeYay[=/=]somewhat {{Yandere}}-esque traits towards his nemesis. And the villain's nemesis, [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Terra Branford]], has an alternate costume that gives her a slightly similar appearance to Bulma.[[note]]In case anyone's curious, the alternate costume was based on her field sprite in her original game.[[/note]]



-->"I don't know what planet [Goku's] from, but it's not Earth."

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-->"I --->"I don't know what planet [Goku's] from, but it's not Earth."



--> "So what's the deal, is Goku some kind of alien?"

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--> ---> "So what's the deal, is Goku some kind of alien?"
15th Jan '18 9:57:49 AM SpaceDrake
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** ''Dragon Ball'' vs. ''Dragon Ball Z'' is a not as commonly debated over but it happens.
** Comparisons between ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' and ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', were bound to happen. Some complain that ''GT'' was moving the pace forward by its second episode while ''Super'' takes its time to cover the events of two films, which in turn draws out the old laundry list of ''GT''[='=]s narrative flaws. Overall, most agree that right now it is impossible to compare ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' with ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' since ''Super'' is ongoing while ''GT'' ended decades ago. However, since the start of the [[GrowingTheBeard Champa Saga]], most fans have considered ''Super'' to be superior to ''GT''. Even before the end of the retellings, some thought ''Super'' was better than ''GT'' simply because of the character interactions and characterizations.

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** ''Dragon Ball'' vs. ''Dragon Ball Z'' is a not as commonly debated over in the 21st century, but it happens.
still happens. Now, when the entire Saiyan concept and the "Z shift" first landed in Japan for the JP fanbase back in the [=1980s=]...
** Comparisons between ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' and ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' were bound to happen. Some complain that ''GT'' was moving the pace forward by its second episode while ''Super'' takes its time to cover the events of two films, which in turn draws out the old laundry list of ''GT''[='=]s narrative flaws. Overall, most agree that right now it is impossible to compare ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' with ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' since ''Super'' is ongoing while ''GT'' ended decades ago. However, since the start of the [[GrowingTheBeard Champa Saga]], most fans have considered ''Super'' to be superior to ''GT''. Even before the end of the retellings, some thought ''Super'' was better than ''GT'' simply because of the character interactions interactions, characterizations, and characterizations.the fact that ''Super'' gets to benefit from twenty years of technological advancement in animation production.
26th Dec '17 9:06:27 PM MisterMoe
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** In the anime: Master Roshi's destruction of the moon to reverse Goku's Great Ape transformation becomes horrifying when one remembers that's where Goku dropped off Boss Rabbit and his goons.

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** In the anime: Master Roshi's destruction of the moon to reverse Goku's Great Ape transformation becomes horrifying when one remembers that's where Goku dropped off Boss Rabbit and his goons.goons... though supposedly Akira Toriyama said in an interview that Boss Rabbit and his goons got off the moon somehow.
26th Dec '17 8:32:03 AM JamesAustin
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** In Latin America, anyone who has heard the Mexican dub growing up will tell you that Creator/MarioCastaneda is the official voice of Goku, the same with Creator/ReneGarcia as Vegeta and Creator/LauraTorres as Kid!Goku and Kid!Gohan, reason why not many have enjoyed the dubbed version of Anime/DragonballKai for the change of cast.

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** In Latin America, anyone who has heard the Mexican dub growing up will tell you that Creator/MarioCastaneda is the official voice of Goku, the same with Creator/ReneGarcia as Vegeta and Creator/LauraTorres as Kid!Goku and Kid!Gohan, reason why not many have enjoyed the dubbed version of Anime/DragonballKai ''Anime/DragonBallKai'' for the change of cast.
20th Dec '17 2:10:28 PM Kytseo
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18th Dec '17 6:41:33 PM FateStayWho
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* InformedWrongness: Goku meeting Chi-Chi at the 23 Tenkaichi Budokai and not remembering her is treated as an example of him being an idiot. While Chi-Chi's identity is obvious so the audience, Goku had only met her once, over six years earlier. It actually speaks well of Goku that he remembers her at all. It's more. It's less blatant in the anime where he had seen her in a few filler arcs between then, but he had still only had two other meetings with her, but he had still only met her twice times in the past six years.
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