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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* UncannyValley: There's just something... off about Einstürzen's appearance.
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* FridgeBrilliance: The weapons that Heine ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96 Mauser C96]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol Luger]]) and Giovanni ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P38 Walther P38]]) actually reflects their characters and their relationship with each other to a startling degree. The C96 and Luger are ''[[GunPorn very]] '' {{cool guns}}, but they were both quite [[AwesomeButImpractical impractical]]: the C96 was big and heavy for a handgun, and it's vicious recoil coupled with a ridiculous rate of fire when set to automatic, made it difficult to handle. The Luger is to this day considered one of the most elegant pistols of all time, and even by today's standards, its accuracy is nothing to scoff at, but it was hardly reliable: it required extremely high grade ammunition and even a little bit of dirt would cause it to jam. The P38, on the other hand, is the BoringButPractical counterpart to these two guns: not nearly as distinctive as the other two guns, but reliable enough that a barely-modified variant was still being used by the ''Bundeswehr'' into the 2000s. Like his guns, Heine is showy and impressive, and he does his own thing the way he wants to, but he's also extremely unstable and even he has trouble controlling himself at times. Conversely, Giovanni is more boring: [[BadassInANiceSuit he wears a suit]] instead of Heine's ImpossiblyCoolClothes, he's calm and collected while Heine is AxCrazy, and he's very easy for his handlers to control. Furthermore, the Walther P38 replaced the Luger and did its job much more reliably, just like Giovanni replaced Heine in the organization after Heine escaped.
* FunnyMoments: Usually whenever Badou, Dominico and/or Marcel show up.



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* CompleteMonster: Angelika Einstürzen is a MadScientist whose specialty is human experimentation, and [[WouldHurtAChild she starts on her test subjects when they're young children]]. Chronologically, the first thing we see her do is tell Heine that if he took part in the extremely dangerous Master Kerberos Spine experiment, he'd save all of his friends from the same fate. Once it was clear that Heine had successfully bonded with the spine, she no longer needed the rest of the test group and had them go berserk and murder each other, and she forced Heine to watch. Next, she sends a large number of her old test subjects to invade the UndergroundCity and slaughter as many people as they could before she blew her soldiers up. She didn't even do this because she had something against the people she had killed, she just wanted to get rid of her old, defective test subjects and at the same time, get the attention of the mayor, who resided on the surface, and [[LackOfEmpathy she figured the easiest way to kill two birds with one stone was to blow her men up and take hundreds, if not thousands of innocent civilians with them]]. Afterwards, she sends [[HiveMind one of her many bodies]] to Stray Dogs District and tells the people there that their friends and family, who had been kidnapped long ago, were among the attackers that the Stray Dogs had killed, just to see how horrified they would be. It's telling that one of the nicest things we can say about her is that she [[ElectricTorture shocked]] Luki when the twins understandably didn't want to go back to her for more brainwashing and MindRape. She does all this for one of two very simple reasons: [[ForScience scientific research]] and [[ForTheEvulz amusement]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[MadScientist Angelika Einstürzen is a MadScientist whose specialty is Einstürzen]] specialized in human experimentation, and [[WouldHurtAChild she starts starting on her test subjects [[WouldHurtAChild when they're young children]]. Chronologically, the first thing we see her do is tell Heine Heine, a member of one test group, that if he took part in the an extremely dangerous Master Kerberos Spine experiment, he'd save all of his friends from the same fate. Once it was clear that Heine had successfully bonded with the spine, experiment was a success, she [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer needed the rest of the test group group]] and had them go berserk and murder each other, and while she [[ForcedToWatch forced Heine to watch.watch]]. Next, she sends a large number of her old test subjects to invade the UndergroundCity and slaughter as many people as they could before she blew her soldiers up. She didn't even do this because she had something against the people she had killed, she killed. She just wanted to get rid of her old, defective test subjects and at the same time, get subjects, while also getting the attention of the mayor, who resided on the surface, and [[LackOfEmpathy she surface. She figured the easiest way to kill two birds with one stone was to blow her men up and [[LackOfEmpathy take hundreds, if not thousands of innocent civilians with them]]. Afterwards, she sends [[HiveMind one of her many bodies]] to Stray Dogs District one of the districts hit hardest by her attack and tells the people there that their friends and family, who had been kidnapped long ago, were among the attackers that the Stray Dogs people had killed, just to see how horrified they would be. It's telling that one of the nicest things we can say about her is that she She also [[ElectricTorture shocked]] Luki when the twins one of a pair of young twin sisters who understandably didn't want to go back to her for more brainwashing and MindRape. She does all all of this either for one of two very simple reasons: [[ForScience scientific research]] and or just for [[ForTheEvulz amusement]].fun]].
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* NightmareFuel: While a very gritty series overall, it always goes straight to horror whenever [[TheDreaded Einstürzen shows up.]]

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* NightmareFuel: While a very gritty series overall, it always goes straight to horror whenever [[TheDreaded Einstürzen shows up.]]up]].
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**As of recent chapters, Giovanni as well, especially since, for all his gripes, Heine managed to escape Einstürzen. Giovanni, on the other hand, never did.
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* NightmareFuel: While a very gritty series overall, it always goes straight to horror whenever [[TheDreaded Einstürzen shows up.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Angelika Einsturzenexperimented on and raised multiple children as killers in an attempt to find the perfect weapon while she directed them into slaughter, firmly enjoying It all the while. She has made a show of mocking the demi-humans and Liza that she has experimented on, referring to them as chattel, shock collaring twin kids when they, understandably, don't want to return to her, taking over the girl Lily's body and essentially gloating about it to the Anti-Hero Heine, who is suitably freaked out, possessing one heroine, Naoto and forcing her to potentially fatally stab Heine while he's clearly reluctant to mortally wound her and then gloating about that as well.She does this for no reason that her victims can conceive of other than[[ForScience science]] and [[ForTheEvulz because she could.]]

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* * CompleteMonster: Angelika Einsturzenexperimented on Einstürzen is a MadScientist whose specialty is human experimentation, and raised multiple children as killers in an attempt to find [[WouldHurtAChild she starts on her test subjects when they're young children]]. Chronologically, the perfect weapon while first thing we see her do is tell Heine that if he took part in the extremely dangerous Master Kerberos Spine experiment, he'd save all of his friends from the same fate. Once it was clear that Heine had successfully bonded with the spine, she directed no longer needed the rest of the test group and had them into slaughter, firmly enjoying It all go berserk and murder each other, and she forced Heine to watch. Next, she sends a large number of her old test subjects to invade the while. UndergroundCity and slaughter as many people as they could before she blew her soldiers up. She has made a show of mocking didn't even do this because she had something against the demi-humans people she had killed, she just wanted to get rid of her old, defective test subjects and Liza at the same time, get the attention of the mayor, who resided on the surface, and [[LackOfEmpathy she figured the easiest way to kill two birds with one stone was to blow her men up and take hundreds, if not thousands of innocent civilians with them]]. Afterwards, she sends [[HiveMind one of her many bodies]] to Stray Dogs District and tells the people there that their friends and family, who had been kidnapped long ago, were among the attackers that the Stray Dogs had killed, just to see how horrified they would be. It's telling that one of the nicest things we can say about her is that she has experimented on, referring to them as chattel, shock collaring twin kids [[ElectricTorture shocked]] Luki when they, understandably, don't the twins understandably didn't want to return go back to her, taking over the girl Lily's body her for more brainwashing and essentially gloating about it to the Anti-Hero Heine, who is suitably freaked out, possessing one heroine, Naoto and forcing her to potentially fatally stab Heine while he's clearly reluctant to mortally wound her and then gloating about that as well.MindRape. She does all this for no reason that her victims can conceive one of other than[[ForScience science]] two very simple reasons: [[ForScience scientific research]] and [[ForTheEvulz because she could.]]amusement]].

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* JerkassWoobie: Despite his several PetTheDog moments, Heine's been a complete prick, but even as you feel the need to call him out on his behaviour, you can't help but feel sorry for him because of all the shit he's been through.

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** Heine and Badou definitely have a screwball couple dynamic. Particularly, Heine has a [[HeManWomanHater fear of women]] because of abuse in the past. When Naoto throws a sudden, suspicious (and hilarious) look after hearing this for the first time (we were all thinking it), Badou goes on record saying: "I'll say this only once: it's not like that." (Riiight, Badou. That ''totally'' did not induce a reaction opposite to what you expected from the YaoiFangirls... At ''all.'') To be fair to them, they're both obviously straight and even have separate {{Love Interest}}s, but when has that ever stopped shippers.
** Giovanni has an unhealthy obsession with Heine that can get pretty suggestive at times.
* JerkassWoobie: Despite his several PetTheDog moments, Heine's been still a complete huge prick, but even as you feel the need to call him out on his behaviour, behavior, you can't help but feel sorry for him because of all the shit he's been through.



* {{Shipping}}: Quite a bit between Heine/Naoto, or Naoto/Magato, or Heine/Nill, or Badou/Mimi, or Giovanni/Heine, or Heine/Badou.

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* {{Shipping}}: Quite a bit between Heine/Naoto, or Naoto/Magato, or Heine/Nill, or Badou/Mimi, or Giovanni/Heine, or Heine/Badou.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Einsturzen [[spoiler: [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness having all of the other Cerberus spines killed]] after [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse Heine accepted her offer,]] [[BodySurf transferring her consciousness into Lily]] and [[FightingYourFriend forcing Naoto to nearly kill Heine]] via possession.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Einsturzen [[spoiler: [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Einstürzen [[spoiler:[[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness having all of the other Cerberus spines killed]] after [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse Heine accepted her offer,]] [[BodySurf transferring her consciousness into Lily]] and [[FightingYourFriend forcing Naoto to nearly kill Heine]] via possession.]]


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* FridgeBrilliance: The weapons that Heine ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96 Mauser C96]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol Luger]]) and Giovanni ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P38 Walther P38]]) actually reflects their characters and their relationship with each other to a startling degree. The C96 and Luger are ''[[GunPorn very]] '' {{cool guns}}, but they were both quite [[AwesomeButImpractical impractical]]: the C96 was big and heavy for a handgun, and it's vicious recoil coupled with a ridiculous rate of fire when set to automatic, made it difficult to handle. The Luger is to this day considered one of the most elegant pistols of all time, and even by today's standards, its accuracy is nothing to scoff at, but it was hardly reliable: it required extremely high grade ammunition and even a little bit of dirt would cause it to jam. The P38, on the other hand, is the BoringButPractical counterpart to these two guns: not nearly as distinctive as the other two guns, but reliable enough that a barely-modified variant was still being used by the ''Bundeswehr'' into the 2000s. Like his guns, Heine is showy and impressive, and he does his own thing the way he wants to, but he's also extremely unstable and even he has trouble controlling himself at times. Conversely, Giovanni is more boring: [[BadassInANiceSuit he wears a suit]] instead of Heine's ImpossiblyCoolClothes, he's calm and collected while Heine is AxCrazy, and he's very easy for his handlers to control. Furthermore, the Walther P38 replaced the Luger and did its job much more reliably, just like Giovanni replaced Heine in the organization after Heine escaped.

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* CompleteMonster: Einsturzen officially qualifies for this in chapters 68-72: mocking the demi-humans and Liza, referring to them as chattel, shockcollaring the twins when they, [[MadScientist understandably,]] don't want to return to her, [[spoiler:taking over Lily's body and [[EvilGloating essentially gloating about it to Heine]], who is suitably freaked out, possessing Naoto and forcing her to potentially fatally stab him while [[FightingYourFriend he's clearly reluctant to mortally wound her]]]] and then gloating about that as well. She does this for no reason that her victims can conceive of other than [[ForScience science]] and [[ForTheEvulz because she could.]]
** She actually reached this in 56-57. [[TheWoobie Poor traumatized Heine.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Einsturzen officially qualifies for this Angelika Einsturzenexperimented on and raised multiple children as killers in chapters 68-72: an attempt to find the perfect weapon while she directed them into slaughter, firmly enjoying It all the while. She has made a show of mocking the demi-humans and Liza, Liza that she has experimented on, referring to them as chattel, shockcollaring the twins shock collaring twin kids when they, [[MadScientist understandably,]] understandably, don't want to return to her, [[spoiler:taking taking over the girl Lily's body and [[EvilGloating essentially gloating about it to Heine]], the Anti-Hero Heine, who is suitably freaked out, possessing one heroine, Naoto and forcing her to potentially fatally stab him Heine while [[FightingYourFriend he's clearly reluctant to mortally wound her]]]] her and then gloating about that as well. well.She does this for no reason that her victims can conceive of other than [[ForScience than[[ForScience science]] and [[ForTheEvulz because she could.]]
** She actually reached this in 56-57. [[TheWoobie Poor traumatized Heine.
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* FunnyMoments: Usually whenever Badou, Dominico and/or Marcel show up.

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* TheWoobie: Nill.

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* TheWoobie: Nill.Nill when she was first introduced.



** Chapter 74 adds [[CoolOldLady Liza]] to the list when [[spoiler:she finds out who the soldiers in black [[OffingTheOffspring used to be.]]]]

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* FanPreferredCouple: Heine and Naoto, although if things keep going in the direction they have been, they'll become not so much fan-preferred as they will be [[OfficialCouple official]].

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** She actually reached this in 56-57. [[TheWoobie Poor traumatized Heine.]]

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** She actually reached this in 56-57. [[TheWoobie Poor traumatized Heine.]] ]]
* JerkassWoobie: Despite his several PetTheDog moments, Heine's been a complete prick, but even as you feel the need to call him out on his behaviour, you can't help but feel sorry for him because of all the shit he's been through.
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** Chapters 52-57, 61-63, 71 and 72 add Heine and Naoto to the list and Badou's probably not far behind them.

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** Chapters 52-57, 61-63, 71 and 72 add Heine and Naoto to the list and Badou's probably not far behind them.them.
** Chapter 74 adds [[CoolOldLady Liza]] to the list when [[spoiler:she finds out who the soldiers in black [[OffingTheOffspring used to be.]]]]

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* CompleteMonster: Einsturzen officially qualifies for this in chapters 68-72: mocking the demi-humans and Liza, referring to them as chattel, shockcollaring the twins when they, [[MadScientist understandably,]] don't want to return to her, [[spoiler:taking over Lily's body and [[EvilGloating essentially gloating about it to Heine]], who is suitably freaked out, possessing Naoto and forcing her to potentially fatally stab him while [[FightingYourFriend he's clearly reluctant to mortally wound her]]]] and then gloating about that as well. She does this for no reason that her victims can conceive of other than [[ForScience science]] and [[ForTheEvulz because she could.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Einsturzen officially qualifies for this in chapters 68-72: mocking the demi-humans and Liza, referring to them as chattel, shockcollaring the twins when they, [[MadScientist understandably,]] don't want to return to her, [[spoiler:taking over Lily's body and [[EvilGloating essentially gloating about it to Heine]], who is suitably freaked out, possessing Naoto and forcing her to potentially fatally stab him while [[FightingYourFriend he's clearly reluctant to mortally wound her]]]] and then gloating about that as well. She does this for no reason that her victims can conceive of other than [[ForScience science]] and [[ForTheEvulz because she could.]]
**She actually reached this in 56-57. [[TheWoobie Poor traumatized Heine.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Einsturnze [[spoiler:[[BodySurf transferring her consciousness into Lily]] and [[FightingYourFriend forcing Naoto to nearly kill Heine]] via possession.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Einsturnze [[spoiler:[[BodySurf Einsturzen [[spoiler: [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness having all of the other Cerberus spines killed]] after [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse Heine accepted her offer,]] [[BodySurf transferring her consciousness into Lily]] and [[FightingYourFriend forcing Naoto to nearly kill Heine]] via possession.]]



** Chapters 52-57, 71 and 72 add Heine and Naoto to the list and Badou's probably not far behind them.

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** Chapters 52-57, 61-63, 71 and 72 add Heine and Naoto to the list and Badou's probably not far behind them.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Einsturnze [[spoiler:[[BodySurf transferring her consciousness into Lily]] and forcing Naoto to nearly kill Heine via possession.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Einsturnze [[spoiler:[[BodySurf transferring her consciousness into Lily]] and [[FightingYourFriend forcing Naoto to nearly kill Heine Heine]] via possession.]]

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* CompleteMonster: Einsturzen officially qualifies for this in chapters 68-72: mocking the demi-humans and Liza, referring to them as chattel, shockcollaring the twins when they, [[MadScientist understandably,]] don't want to return to her, [[spoiler:taking over Lily's body and [[EvilGloating essentially gloating about it to Heine]], who is suitably freaked out, possessing Naoto and forcing her to potentially fatally stab him while [[FightingYourFriend he's clearly reluctant to mortally wound her]]]] and then gloating about that as well. She does this for no reason that her victims can conceive of other than [[ForScience science]] and [[ForTheEvulz because she could.]]



* MoralEventHorizon: Einsturnze [[spoiler:[[BodySurf transferring her consciousness into Lily]] and forcing Naoto to nearly kill Heine via possession.]]



* TheWoobie: Nill

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** LauncherOfAThousandShips: Heine.

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