History YMMV / DivineSecretsOfTheYaYaSisterhood

* UnfortunateImplications: The film version has received some [[https://www.flickfilosopher.com/2002/06/divine-secrets-of-the-ya-ya-sisterhood-review.html negative]] [[http://splicedwire.com/02reviews/yayasisters.html reviews]] that argue that it sends the message that abusive parents should not be held accountable for what they do to their children [[FreudianExcuse as long as their own past is sufficiently tragic]].

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The plot is about Vivi's friends trying to get her daughter Sidda to forgive her by showing her how hard Vivi's life has been. But for some readers and viewers, Vivi's abuse of her children is so awful as to make her irredeemable, [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse no matter how horrible her own life was.]] It does not help that Vivi's reaction to Sidda calling her abusive is to [[IResembleThatRemark call Sidda a liar, disown her, and cut her out of her will.]]

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of online forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods and get advice from others in the same predicaments. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you are not obligated to forgive an abusive family member just because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you previously, it may be best to minimize or cut contact with them for your own sake (especially if there is someone else involved who is also a target of that person's abuse or may become one, like your partner or your own children).

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Audiences cannot seem to agree if Vivi is a flawed but ultimately sympathetic JerkassWoobie who struggles with mental illness from her traumatic childhood, or a vicious, sadistic, abusive mother who does not take responsibility for her own transgressions and is forgiven too easily for what she did to her children.

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of online forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods and get advice from others in the same predicaments. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you are not obligated to forgive an abusive family member just because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you previously, it may be best to minimize or cut contact with them for the sake of your own well-being (especially if there is someone else involved who is also a target of that person's abuse or may become one, like your partner or your own children).

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Audiences cannot seem to agree if Vivi is a flawed but ultimately sympathetic JerkassWoobie who struggles with mental illness and was shaped by her traumatic childhood, or a vicious, sadistic, abusive mother who does not take responsibility for her own transgressions and is forgiven too easily for what she did to her children.

* UnintentionallySympathetic: Sidda is meant to be seen as hard-hearted and cruel for not forgiving her mother...her physically abusive, mentally ill, violent, alcoholic mother who shows very little remorse (if any) for what she's done to Sidda and her siblings.

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of public forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods and get advice from others in the same predicaments. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you are not obligated to forgive an abusive family member just because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you previously, it may be best to minimize or cut contact with them for the sake of your own well-being (especially if there is someone else involved who is also a target of that person's abuse or may become one, like your partner or your own children).

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of public forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods and get advice from others in the same predicaments. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you are not obligated to forgive someone for doing something terrible to you just because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you previously, another option may be to cut contact with them permanently for your own well-being (especially if there is someone else involved who is also a target of that person's abuse or may become one, like your partner or your own children).

* UnintentionallySympathetic: Sidda is meant to be seen as hard-hearted and unforgiving for not forgiving her mother...her physically abusive, mentally ill, violent, alcoholic mother who shows very little remorse (if any) for what she's done to Sidda and her siblings.

* UnintentionallySympathetic: Sidda is meant to be seen as hard-hearted and unforgiving for not forgiving her mother...her abusive, violent, alcoholic mother who shows very little remorse (if any) for what she's done to Sidda and her siblings.

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Audiences cannot seem to agree if Vivi is a flawed but ultimately sympathetic person who was shaped into a terrible mother by her traumatic childhood, or a vicious, sadistic, abusive mother who does not take responsibility for her own transgressions and is forgiven too easily for what she did to her children.

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of public forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods and get advice from others in the same predicaments. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you are not obligated to forgive someone for doing something terrible to you just because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you previously, another option may be to cut contact with them permanently for your own well-being (especially if there is someone else involved who is a target of that person's abuse or may become one, like your partner or your own children).

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of public forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods and get advice from others in the same predicaments. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you are not obligated to forgive someone for doing something terrible to you just because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you, another option may be to cut contact with them permanently for your own well-being (and possibly that of your partner or your own children).

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of public forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods and get advice from others in the same predicaments. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you are not obligated to forgive someone for doing something terrible to you just they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you, another option may be to cut contact with them permanently for your own well-being (and possibly that of your partner or your own children).

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of public forums such as {{Website/Reddit}}'s [[https://www.reddit.com/r/justnofamily r/justnofamily]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists r/raisedbynarcissists]] that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you do not have to instantly forgive someone because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you, another option may be to cut contact with them permanently for your own well-being (and possibly that of your partner or your own children).

* ValuesDissonance: In the years since the book was written (1996), the long-term effects of child abuse have come to more light in the public eye, especially with the rise of public forums that allow people to share their own stories of terrible childhoods. Nowadays, an increasingly common school of thought among people with abusive parents or other family members is that you do not have to instantly forgive someone because they're related to you, and that if they continue to abuse you and/or show no remorse for how they treated you, another option may be to cut contact with them permanently for your own well-being (and possibly that of your partner or your own children).

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The plot is about Vivi's friends trying to get her daughter Sidda to forgive her by showing her how hard Vivi's life has been. But for some readers and viewers, Vivi's abuse of her children is so awful as to make her irredeemable, FreudianExcuse or no. It does not help that Vivi's reaction to Sidda calling her abusive is to [[IResembleThatRemark disown her and cut her out of her will.]]

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The plot is about Vivi's friends trying to get her daughter Sidda to forgive her, but for some readers and viewers, Vivi's abuse of her children is so awful as to make her irredeemable. It does not help that Vivi's reaction to Sidda calling her abusive is to [[IResembleThatRemark disown her and cut her out of her will.]]

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The plot is about Vivi's friends trying to get her daughter Sidda to forgive her, but for some readers and viewers, Vivi's abuse of her children is so awful that it makes her irredeemable. It does not help that Vivi's reaction to Sidda calling her abusive is to [[IResembleThatRemark disown her and cut her out of her will.]]

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The plot is about Vivi's friends trying to get her daughter Sidda to forgive her, but for some readers and viewers, Vivi's abuse of her children is so awful that it makes her irredeemable. It does not help that VIvi's reaction to Sidda calling her abusive is to [[IResembleThatRemark disown her and cut her out of her will.]]

* UnfortunateImplications: The film version has received some [[https://www.flickfilosopher.com/2002/06/divine-secrets-of-the-ya-ya-sisterhood-review.html negative]] [[http://splicedwire.com/02reviews/yayasisters.html reviews]] that argue that it sends the message that abusive parents should not be held accountable for what they do to their children [[FreudianExcuse as long as their own past is sufficiently tragic]].

* TearJerker: [[spoiler: "You killed my son! You drink champagne to his death!"]]

* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In the movie, Siddalee is invited into the Ya-Ya Sisterhood. They've made her her very own ritual Sisterhood crown out of a Yankees baseball cap.

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Twelve-year-old Vivi and two other Ya-Ya Sisters throw a plate-flinging, racist-shaming three-girl Civil Rights riot when their African-American nanny is mistreated by a cousin they're staying with.