History YMMV / DissidiaFinalFantasy

23rd Nov '17 12:21:37 AM Minishear
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** '''Cosmos Judgment'''. It will dump a free EX Burst on whoever's losing the
23rd Nov '17 12:21:08 AM Minishear
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** '''COSMOS JUDGMENT'''. In short, it benefits whoever's losing the fight, which sounds fine on the surface, but in the Duel Colosseum/Labyrinth, you will VERY QUICKLY get sick and tired of the AI, who especially in the former case in higher levels is always brokenly overpowered in the first place, constantly getting handouts in what is very likely an uphill struggle to seize victory in the first place, and even when it's not like that, if you're at all competent, you'll see your opponents getting freebies CONSTANTLY. A real "the rich get richer" sort of situation at the worst of time, and even at the best, hideously aggravating.
** '''Cosmos Judgment'''. It will dump a free EX Burst on whoever's losing the
12th Nov '17 4:52:18 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CreatorsApathy: For the most part the beginning cinematic for ''Dissidia 012'' looks beautiful, it showcases all the new characters and revamps scenes for characters who have switched sides ... with one glaring exception. When they get to ''IX'' they show Zidane interacting with Cosmos-side Tidus, only in the very next scene (since ''X'' follows ''IX'') to show Tidus in his Chaos-costume. To be fair they at least cut around the scene to show as little as Tidus as possible with Zidane, but its still there and even more obvious since Tidus's scene immediately proceeds it. It's obvious the team just didn't want to invest in making a new Zidane scene.
14th Oct '17 5:31:07 PM DrakeClawfang
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** MemeticBadass: Golbez for his mighty Pimp Hand, while Jecht has earned the FanNickname "[[VideoGame/FZero Captain]] [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Jecht]]" thanks to [[MegatonPunch Triumphant Grasp]]. Kain and Gilgamesh were Memetic Badasses ''before'' ''Dissidia 012'', and it has only helped further their reputations as such.

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** MemeticBadass: MemeticBadass
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Golbez for and his mighty Pimp Hand, while that he uses to backhand opponents across the arena.
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Jecht has earned the FanNickname "[[VideoGame/FZero Captain]] [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Jecht]]" thanks to [[MegatonPunch Triumphant Grasp]]. Grasp]], which ''is'' basically the Falcon Punch.
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Kain and Gilgamesh were Memetic Badasses ''before'' ''Dissidia 012'', and it has only helped further their reputations as such.
14th Oct '17 11:56:09 AM SeptimusHeap
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** MemeticBadass: Golbez for his mighty Pimp Hand, while Jecht has earned the FanNickname "[[VideoGame/{{F-Zero}} Captain]] [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Jecht]]" thanks to [[MegatonPunch Triumphant Grasp]]. Kain and Gilgamesh were Memetic Badasses ''before'' ''Dissidia 012'', and it has only helped further their reputations as such.

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** MemeticBadass: Golbez for his mighty Pimp Hand, while Jecht has earned the FanNickname "[[VideoGame/{{F-Zero}} "[[VideoGame/FZero Captain]] [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Jecht]]" thanks to [[MegatonPunch Triumphant Grasp]]. Kain and Gilgamesh were Memetic Badasses ''before'' ''Dissidia 012'', and it has only helped further their reputations as such.
8th Oct '17 11:22:38 PM DarkMask
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* CreatorsApathy: For the most part the beginning cinematic for ''Dissidia 012'' looks beautiful, it showcases all the new characters and revamps scenes for characters who have switched sides ... with one glaring exception. When they get to ''IX'' they show Zidane interacting with Cosmos-side Tidus, only in the very next scene (since ''X'' follows ''IX'') to show Tidus in his Chaos-costume. To be fair they at least cut around the scene to show as little as Tidus as possible with Zidane, but its still there and even more obvious since Tidus's scene immediately proceeds it. It's obvious the team just didn't want to invest in making a new Zidane scene.
14th Sep '17 12:46:57 PM rixion
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: After fighting with Terra in Shade Impulse, Kefka claims that "destruction is what makes life worth living", which prompts Terra to think that he tried to fill his "broken heart" with it. Contrast his original game, in which after [[LonelyAtTheTop ruling the world for a year]] (coupled, possibly, with the knowledge in the back of his mind that, despite his power, he was still a mortal man) convinced him of life's ultimate futility, followed by the heroes' [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech self-help book speech]] and complete refusal to accept his nihilist stance prompted Kefka to try to destroy everything in order to prove his point. He more or less went from destroying everything because he didn't see the point of life, to destroying everything because he thinks ''that's'' the point of life.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: After fighting with Terra in Shade Impulse, Kefka claims that "destruction is what makes life worth living", which prompts Terra to think that he tried to fill his "broken heart" with it. Contrast his original game, in which after [[LonelyAtTheTop ruling the world for a year]] (coupled, possibly, with the knowledge in the back of his mind that, despite his power, he was still a mortal man) convinced him of life's ultimate futility, followed by the heroes' [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech self-help book speech]] and complete refusal to accept his nihilist stance prompted Kefka to try to destroy everything in order to prove his point. He more or less went from destroying everything because he didn't see the point of life, to destroying everything because he thinks ''that's'' the point of life.[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/FinalFantasy Here.]]
12th Sep '17 10:40:28 AM rixion
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* GameBreaker: The infamous "Exdeath Cheat" that, with the proper summons and equipment setup, allows you to take a character from level 1 to level 100 in ''one'' fight.
** To elaborate: this exploit relies on the fact that ExperiencePoints are assigned per hit, based on the amount of damage you do. So: you go into battle against [[CurbstompBattle a Lv.100 enemy]], let them max their BRV to 9999 by beating you up, use the Magic Pot summon to ''copy'' their BRV, and OneHitKill them for something like 300,000 EXP before multipliers. Technically, this works no matter who you fight, but Exdeath's peculiar play style makes his ArtificialStupidity easiest to survive.
** Certain tactics are infamous for snapping the game's challenge cleanly in half: Squall Beat Fang infinites, Golbez's many possible infinite combos, and Bartz EXP -> Brave Goblin Punch spamming come to mind.
** Firion's [[SuperMode EX Mode]] (Blood Sword) and Bartz's [[LimitBreak EX Burst]] (Spellblade [[DualWielding Dual-Wield]] Rapidfire) are both nods to gamebreakers in their original games.
** Exdeath himself is designed to ''be'' a GameBreaker if you master him. ...He's a BarrierWarrior MightyGlacier LethalJokeCharacter, with emphasis on the "Barrier", "Glacier", and "Joke" aspects, so [[DifficultButAwesome good luck with that.]]
** Kain's Jump attack. It's an HP attack that lets Kain dodge attacks, has Wall Rush for extra damage, he starts out knowing it, it tracks well, and it executes fairly quickly. The Game Breaker part comes in when Kain can charge Jump for vertical ''and'' horizontal reach, thereby presenting the problem of predicting exactly ''when'' to dodge because the time between the leap and the descent changes depending on how long Kain charged the attack. Oh, and once he's up in the air, most of the time you can't see him, so don't bother waiting for a visual cue to dodge, you've got to take your best guess. Perfect your usage of it and you can win battles just by spamming Jump.
*** DifficultButAwesome: You ''have'' to learn to charge it, because the standard timing is predictable and ''very'' easy to dodge.
** The now infamous Iai Strike build to turn your character into a GlassCannon. Set your character's level to 1, equip them with the Smiting Soul, Level Gap > 90, remove all their equipment and set them up with Weaponless, Armorless, Gloveless, Hatless, Level 1-9, and Large Gap in BRV (to note, this is one such combination, any set of six 1.5 boosters will do). The result is a character with a 99.9% chance of instantly doing Bravery damage to the opponent equal to their current Bravery when they attack, and since you're at level one, they'll begin with 9999 Bravery, which will become yours once you connect. Even [[SNKBoss Feral Chaos]] can be killed in under a minute using this set-up.
** Speaking of Feral Chaos, his ''Via Dolorosa'' HP attack. Spamming this attack during tournament play (if Feral Chaos is allowed in the first place) will earn you much hatred from other players.
** Ultimecia in Duodecim, all due to the addition of two moves: Hell's Judgment and Knight's Lance. It doesn't matter that some of her projectile spam got nerfed, Charged Knight's Lance makes a 'tripod' of spears that lingers on the field and has HIGH PRIORITY. This means she can stuff assists just by standing in the middle of her spears, and combined with Charged Knight's Arrow and regular Knight's Arrow, can force dodges that will make Charged Knight's Arrow hit almost guaranteed - she can also move while doing these attacks and dance around her lances. Hell's Judgment has very good range and gives her a ranged HP attack that's much more reliable than Great Attractor or Apocalypse as well - these things all combined to rocket her to SSS Tier, and only Prishe comes up a tier beneath her.

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* GameBreaker: The infamous "Exdeath Cheat" that, with the proper summons and equipment setup, allows you to take a character from level 1 to level 100 in ''one'' fight.
** To elaborate: this exploit relies on the fact that ExperiencePoints are assigned per hit, based on the amount of damage you do. So: you go into battle against [[CurbstompBattle a Lv.100 enemy]], let them max their BRV to 9999 by beating you up, use the Magic Pot summon to ''copy'' their BRV, and OneHitKill them for something like 300,000 EXP before multipliers. Technically, this works no matter who you fight, but Exdeath's peculiar play style makes his ArtificialStupidity easiest to survive.
** Certain tactics are infamous for snapping the game's challenge cleanly in half: Squall Beat Fang infinites, Golbez's many possible infinite combos, and Bartz EXP -> Brave Goblin Punch spamming come to mind.
** Firion's [[SuperMode EX Mode]] (Blood Sword) and Bartz's [[LimitBreak EX Burst]] (Spellblade [[DualWielding Dual-Wield]] Rapidfire) are both nods to gamebreakers in their original games.
** Exdeath himself is designed to ''be'' a GameBreaker if you master him. ...He's a BarrierWarrior MightyGlacier LethalJokeCharacter, with emphasis on the "Barrier", "Glacier", and "Joke" aspects, so [[DifficultButAwesome good luck with that.]]
** Kain's Jump attack. It's an HP attack that lets Kain dodge attacks, has Wall Rush for extra damage, he starts out knowing it, it tracks well, and it executes fairly quickly. The Game Breaker part comes in when Kain can charge Jump for vertical ''and'' horizontal reach, thereby presenting the problem of predicting exactly ''when'' to dodge because the time between the leap and the descent changes depending on how long Kain charged the attack. Oh, and once he's up in the air, most of the time you can't see him, so don't bother waiting for a visual cue to dodge, you've got to take your best guess. Perfect your usage of it and you can win battles just by spamming Jump.
*** DifficultButAwesome: You ''have'' to learn to charge it, because the standard timing is predictable and ''very'' easy to dodge.
** The now infamous Iai Strike build to turn your character into a GlassCannon. Set your character's level to 1, equip them with the Smiting Soul, Level Gap > 90, remove all their equipment and set them up with Weaponless, Armorless, Gloveless, Hatless, Level 1-9, and Large Gap in BRV (to note, this is one such combination, any set of six 1.5 boosters will do). The result is a character with a 99.9% chance of instantly doing Bravery damage to the opponent equal to their current Bravery when they attack, and since you're at level one, they'll begin with 9999 Bravery, which will become yours once you connect. Even [[SNKBoss Feral Chaos]] can be killed in under a minute using this set-up.
** Speaking of Feral Chaos, his ''Via Dolorosa'' HP attack. Spamming this attack during tournament play (if Feral Chaos is allowed in the first place) will earn you much hatred from other players.
** Ultimecia in Duodecim, all due to the addition of two moves: Hell's Judgment and Knight's Lance. It doesn't matter that some of her projectile spam got nerfed, Charged Knight's Lance makes a 'tripod' of spears that lingers on the field and has HIGH PRIORITY. This means she can stuff assists just by standing in the middle of her spears, and combined with Charged Knight's Arrow and regular Knight's Arrow, can force dodges that will make Charged Knight's Arrow hit almost guaranteed - she can also move while doing these attacks and dance around her lances. Hell's Judgment has very good range and gives her a ranged HP attack that's much more reliable than Great Attractor or Apocalypse as well - these things all combined to rocket her to SSS Tier, and only Prishe comes up a tier beneath her.
[[GameBreaker/FinalFantasy Here.]]
8th Aug '17 8:20:32 PM DrakeClawfang
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Kuja's entire story arc was rewritten from the original game to bring his personality more in-line with his ''Final Fantasy IX'' incarnation. [[spoiler:He's initially bored with the cycle and plans to betray Chaos and help Zidane take him down, and he's on good terms with Zidane too. Then [[ManipulativeBastard Kefka]] got wind of what he was plotting, ruined his schemes, and played with his memories to tweak his personality and make him into Zidane's ArchEnemy again.]]
** Cloud and Sephiroth's conflict in the original game was fairly shallow, Sephiroth seemingly manipulating Cloud only to prove he can and Cloud being disinterested in fighting without good reason. The prequel explains that Sephiroth makes a point to track down and fight Tifa and Cloud so he can get his memories back, and Cloud has been through several cycles and retains his memories of them, so he knows that the war is pointless. His reluctance to fight is a leftover trait of that, even if he lost his memories after the 12th cycle, and Sephiroth remembers Cloud has no interest in the war and manipulates him so he can get the battle he's looking for.

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Kuja's entire story arc was rewritten from the original game to bring his personality more in-line with his ''Final Fantasy IX'' incarnation. [[spoiler:He's initially bored with the cycle and plans to betray Chaos and help Zidane take him down, and he's on good terms with Zidane too. Then [[ManipulativeBastard Kefka]] got wind of what he was plotting, ruined his schemes, and played with his memories to tweak his personality and make him into Zidane's ArchEnemy again.]]
** Cloud and Sephiroth's conflict in the original game was fairly shallow, Sephiroth seemingly manipulating Cloud only to prove he can and Cloud being disinterested in fighting without good reason. The prequel explains that the warriors have no memories of their home worlds but they recover over time, and fighting someone else from their world accelerates this, and this is why Sephiroth makes a point wants to track down and fight Tifa and Cloud. Cloud so he can get his memories back, and Cloud meanwhile has been through several cycles and retains his memories of them, knows they don't end so he knows that doesn't care about fighting pointless battles, and while his memory was erased at the war is pointless. His reluctance to fight is a leftover trait end of that, even if he lost his memories after the 12th cycle, and Sephiroth remembers Cloud has no interest this hesitation lingers in the war and manipulates him so he can get the battle he's looking for.13th cycle.
23rd Mar '17 9:42:36 AM Willbyr
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Sephiroth, [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII just]] [[VideoGame/CrisisCore as]] [[KingdomHearts always]], but his status as one flies over the head of [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Penelo]], [[LampshadeHanging who simply does not understand]] [[EvilIsSexy his]] [[EvilIsCool appeal]].

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Sephiroth, [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII just]] [[VideoGame/CrisisCore as]] [[KingdomHearts [[Franchise/KingdomHearts always]], but his status as one flies over the head of [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Penelo]], [[LampshadeHanging who simply does not understand]] [[EvilIsSexy his]] [[EvilIsCool appeal]].
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