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* CompleteMonster: [[Discworld/WyrdSisters Lady Felmet]]; [[Discworld/{{Hogfather}} Jonathan Teatime]]; [[Discworld/TheFifthElephant Wolfgang Von Uberwald]]; [[Discworld/NightWatch Captain Findthee Swing]].

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Lady Felmet]]; [[Discworld/{{Hogfather}} Felmet from ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'' is modeled after LadyMacbeth, only more sadistic and cruel. The Duchess participated in the overthrow and murder of King Verence I for her husband Leonald to gain the throne for her own benefit and power. Once she inherits her position, she encourages a brutal suppression of peasants and witches alike while using the Fool to spread a propaganda campaign. Revealing herself as a {{sadist}} who loves ColdBloodedTorture, Lady Felmet personally engages in inventive torture with captives. When [[NeverMessWithGranny Granny Weatherwax]] removes the mental walls she put up and shows her all the evil in her own mind, she shrugs it off. Unlike [[HeelRealization most ''Discworld'' villains]], the Duchess is fully aware how evil she is. She just doesn't care.
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Jonathan Teatime]]; [[Discworld/TheFifthElephant Teatime]] from ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'' is a PsychopathicManchild. Lord Downey let him into the Assassin’s Guild out of pity that his parents died, only to later suspect that [[SelfMadeOrphan he killed them]]. If he is [[PsychoForHire sent to kill someone]], he will mercilessly slaughter them, [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill their family]], and [[KickTheDog their]] [[AndYourLittleDogToo pets]]. He kills any accomplices he has the instant [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they're not currently useful to him]], not excepting Ankh-Morpork's most gifted lock-picker who was an incredibly valuable asset to the Guild. He horrifies even hardened criminals who’ve earned their reputation on murder. The most terrifying thing about him is that he honestly [[ObliviouslyEvil doesn't understand that his sadistic behavior is wrong]]. He sees no difference between having a friendly chat with a man and stabbing him to death. The real kicker is when Teatime tries to use Death as a HumanShield against a weapon powered by the beliefs of children. It only hurts monsters, and goes through Death harmlessly, but kills Teatime stone dead.
-->'''Susan:''' But... he was a man.\\
'''Death:''' [[AC:I think they know quite well what he was]].
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Wolfgang Von Uberwald]]; [[Discworld/NightWatch Uberwald]] from ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' is a {{Sadist}}ic [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werewolf]]. Before the book starts, he murders his little sister, Elsa, because she isn't a bimorphic werewolf and, as such, is "[[FantasticRacism impure]]." He takes the werewolf tradition of [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting humans through a forest]], and adds the cruel twist of [[HopeSpot giving them the illusion that they've escaped]] before ripping them to shreds. He doesn't care about all the political power he and his family can gain through the civil unrest; he just likes being sadistic.
** [[ANaziByAnyOtherName
Captain Findthee Swing]].Swing]], the leader of [[SecretPolice the Unmentionables]] on ''[[Discworld/NightWatchDiscworld Night Watch]]'', is the reason his time period is so corrupt. Swing is a TautologicalTemplar who uses people's measurement arbitrarily to decide whether someone is good or bad in his eye. He sees himself and his supporters, such as the [[AxCrazy psychotic]] [[SerialKiller Carcer Dun]], as good and his enemies and victims, like [[GoodIsNotNice hero Sam Vimes]], as evil. When Vimes enters Swing's base, Vimes sees people who have been [[ColdBloodedTorture physically]] and [[MindRape mentally]] tortured, one of them is so broken that he does not resist when Vimes [[MercyKill kills him without hesitation]]. Vimes finds Swing about to torture a man tied to a chair, before he comes in to fight Swing to the death.

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* MartyStu: Carrot is something of a parody of this, with lampshade hanging by other characters who have trouble believing someone so perfect can be real. More specifically, he's royalty, and has all the tropes of the Royal Hero coming from humble beginnings behind him... except he just wants to be a watchman.
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* ArchivePanic: 39 books, not counting the various [[AllThereInTheManual canon supplementals]], with one more on the way (due to AuthorExistenceFailure, the last one)

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* ArchivePanic: 39 41 books, not counting the various [[AllThereInTheManual canon supplementals]], with one more on the way (due to AuthorExistenceFailure, the last one)supplementals]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[[Discworld/WyrdSisters Lady Felmet]]; [[Discworld/{{Hogfather}} Jonathan Teatime]]; [[Discworld/TheFifthElephant Wolfgang Von Uberwald]]; [[Discworld/NightWatch Captain Findthee Swing]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[[Discworld/WyrdSisters [[Discworld/WyrdSisters Lady Felmet]]; [[Discworld/{{Hogfather}} Jonathan Teatime]]; [[Discworld/TheFifthElephant Wolfgang Von Uberwald]]; [[Discworld/NightWatch Captain Findthee Swing]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[Monster/{{Discworld}} There's a page now.]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[Monster/{{Discworld}} There's a page now.]][[[Discworld/WyrdSisters Lady Felmet]]; [[Discworld/{{Hogfather}} Jonathan Teatime]]; [[Discworld/TheFifthElephant Wolfgang Von Uberwald]]; [[Discworld/NightWatch Captain Findthee Swing]].
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** Brick, before Detritus took him under his wing.

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** Brick, before Detritus took him under his wing.wing.
** Gaspode has his Woobie moments also.

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** The Bursar just wanted a nice quiet beancounting job and went [[UnusualEuphemism librarian-poo]] dealing with Ridcully.

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*** To Rincewind's boundless relief, his life seems to have gotten blissfully boring again in the wake of ''The Last Hero''.
** The Bursar just wanted a nice quiet beancounting bean-counting job and went [[UnusualEuphemism librarian-poo]] dealing with Ridcully.
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* AuthorTract: Pterry's views on religion, race, integration, etc etc etc became a lot more blatant after he was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimers.

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* AuthorTract: Pterry's Terry's views on religion, race, integration, etc etc etc became a lot more blatant after he was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimers.
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* CuteMonster: Death, when you get right down to it, he's really just a friendly guy who desperately wants to understand humans, too bad humans are scared shitless of him.
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* CuteMonster: Death, when you get right down to it, he's really just a friendly guy who desperately wants to understand humans, too bad humans are scared shitless of him.
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*** To put that into perspective: The other recurring protagonists of their respective sub-series', Tiffany Aching, Granny Weatherway, Sam Vimes, have year-long periods of happiness between their books. On the other hand, all of Rincewind's books end with him trapped in some hellish place until the start of his next book. The poor guy cannot get a break. The sole exception to this was the end of The Light Fantastic, where he had at least some peace and quiet until the events of Mort (and from there, until TheSourcerer happened later).

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* CreepyAwesome: Mr. Teatime.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Thank goodness for [[http://www.lspace.org/books/apf/index.html the Pratchett File]].
** Also counts as a GeniusBonus in many cases. Only the most widely traveled of readers will get most of them, let alone some of the more obscure ones....



** Magrat herself has a lot of this, as does Agnes Nitt.

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** Granny Weatherwax.
** Nanny Ogg.
** Vetinari.

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** Granny Weatherwax.
Weatherwax is a powerful witch who exploits the misconceptions of others more than she bothers to use magic, often disguising herself as a dotty old woman, rather than one of the strongest magic users in the world.
** Nanny Ogg.
Ogg, like Granny, is a powerful witch disguised behind a dotty old lady. And it's been suggested by the author that this dotty old lady bit has even fooled [[spoiler: ''Granny'', as Nanny may well be the stronger witch.]]
** Vetinari.Lord Vetinari almost single-handedly turned a shitty city run by a cut-throat, utterly insane monarchy into a shitty city that is also a thriving metropolis run by a highly efficient government that, even if most people don't particularly ''like'' it, pretty much everyone acknowledges is one of the more successful systems in the world.



* NightmareFuel:
** In ''Discworld/{{Maskerade}}'', Granny Weatherwax lists, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial in suspiciously specific detail]], all the things she would do to someone physically, if she were a bad witch. But as she's not she just laughed [[GoodIsNotNice an in no way evil laugh]], and went to deal with [[spoiler:Salzella]] via headology.
** Mr. Teatime (pronounced Tee-ah-Tim-eh).

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NightmareFuel: In ''Discworld/{{Maskerade}}'', Granny Weatherwax lists, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial in suspiciously specific detail]], all the things she would do to someone physically, if she were a bad witch. But as she's not she just laughed [[GoodIsNotNice an in no way evil laugh]], and went to deal with [[spoiler:Salzella]] via headology.
** %%** Mr. Teatime (pronounced Tee-ah-Tim-eh).



* UglyCute: Mr. Nutt.

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* ArchivePanic: 39 books, not counting the various [[AllThereInTheManual canon supplementals]]. '''And counting.'''
** [TearJerker] As of 3/12/15, the counting's stopped; only one book left in the series.
* AuthorTract: Pterry's views on religion have become a lot more blatant since he was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimers.

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* ArchivePanic: 39 books, not counting the various [[AllThereInTheManual canon supplementals]]. '''And counting.'''
** [TearJerker] As of 3/12/15,
supplementals]], with one more on the counting's stopped; only one book left in way (due to AuthorExistenceFailure, the series.
last one)
* AuthorTract: Pterry's views on religion have become religion, race, integration, etc etc etc became a lot more blatant since after he was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimers.
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** [TearJerker] As of 3/12/15, the counting's stopped; only one book left in the series.
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** Makepeace Thomas Bounder, a cabbage-obsessed, potato-hating poet of awful skill featured in the Almanak, is a round-about Joseph Gwyer, a potato-obsessed poet who was so awful that he was described as the [=McGonagall=] of Penge.
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I cannot fathom how this trope applies to the Discworld. It\'s really, really not anywhere near so dark as this description makes it out to be, and every single story in it is positive and optimistic by the end.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: If you don't like the humor, the entire setting can come across as this. [[WretchedHive Ankh-Morpork]] is a place where it can be felt the strongest-even the most noble of the characters are arguably pretty [[HumansAreBastards self-serving bastards]] (just happens to be that they applied to being a bastard what TheAntiNihilist applies to being a nihilist... and while noble, there ''is'' a point where readers may get sick of it).
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: If you don't like the humor, the entire setting can come across as this. [[WretchedHive Ankh-Morpork]] is a place where it can be felt the strongest-even the most noble of the characters would be a [[HumansAreBastards pretty mean bastard]] anywhere else.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: If you don't like the humor, the entire setting can come across as this. [[WretchedHive Ankh-Morpork]] is a place where it can be felt the strongest-even the most noble of the characters would be a are arguably pretty [[HumansAreBastards pretty mean bastard]] anywhere else.self-serving bastards]] (just happens to be that they applied to being a bastard what TheAntiNihilist applies to being a nihilist... and while noble, there ''is'' a point where readers may get sick of it).
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: If you don't like the humor, the entire setting can come across as this. [[WretchedHive Ankh-Morpork]] is a place where it can be felt the strongest-even the most noble of the characters would be a [[HumansAreBastards pretty mean bastard]] anywhere else.
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* StoicWoobie: Without a doubt, [[AC:Death]] is the best person for his job, but it clearly takes its toll on him at times.

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* StoicWoobie: Without a doubt, [[AC:Death]] is the best person for his job, but it clearly takes its toll on him at times.times, most obviously when [[spoiler:he has to collect the souls of his apprentice Mort and daughter Ysabell, at the end of their lifespans]].



** Rincewind, who started out as a JerkassWoobie in ''The Light Fantastic''.
** The Bursar.

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** Rincewind, who started out as a JerkassWoobie in ''The Light Fantastic''.
Fantastic'', has been smacked around by fate hard enough to lose the {{Jerkass}} by ''Interesting Times''.
** The Bursar.Bursar just wanted a nice quiet beancounting job and went [[UnusualEuphemism librarian-poo]] dealing with Ridcully.



** Mr. Nutt. Of the [[IronWoobie iron]] variety. Despite his past and how people treat him when they discover his species, he continually seeks worth.

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** Mr. Nutt. Of the [[IronWoobie iron]] variety. Despite his past and how people treat him when they discover his species, he continually seeks worth.worth and always sees the brightest potential in those around him.
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That is not what the YMMV page is for. It is for tropes that are YMMV tropes, not for you to put in your own arguments about a trope entry.


* TheIgor: Far from being "not too broken up about it", it is the death of Thcrapths the pushes Igor to [[GodzillaThreshold awaken the old Marthter]] and help restore balance to the Vampyr equation.
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* TheIgor: Far from being "not too broken up about it", it is the death of Thcrapths the pushes Igor to [[GodzillaThreshold awaken the old Marthter]] and help restore balance to the Vampyr equation.
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* EldritchAbomination: Bel-Shamharoth.
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** Ankh-Morpork's awful cuisine, which is referenced particularly in ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' and ''Discworld/ThiefOfTime'', is based on two things: firstly, the pop-culture perception of British food being awful and/or British people making awful chefs, and secondly the very real lineage Britain has of low-quality food and ineffective quality control laws. Think the description of Ankh-Morpork chocolate in ''Thief of Time'' is awful? In the real world, underhanded British chocolate companies have tried since the earliest times to swindle customers by cutting their cocoa powder and hot chocolate with things like ''brick dust'' and '''red lead'''.
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** Pratchett uses a lot of physics knowhow, especially with regard to the magic system. For instance, wizards have to deal with conservation of energy when translocating objects, and teleportation requires some very complex calculations. And the blue light that comes off Death's scythe, said to be atoms from the air being split? That really happens. It's called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation Cherenkov radiation]].
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* AuthorTract: Pterry's views on religion have become a lot more blatant since he was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimers.
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** Same with Vimes and the main Unseen University faculty (Ridcully, Ponder and the Librarian) taking over the Watch series and the Rincewind series.

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** Same with Vimes and the main Unseen University faculty (Ridcully, Ponder and the Librarian) taking over the Watch series (originally meant to be centered on Carrot) and the Rincewind series.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There is quite a substantial group of fans who hold the view that Carrot is evil and/or TheChessmaster. It helps that he is almost never the POV character - we get to hear what Vimes or Angua think ''about'' him but hardly ever see Carrot's actual thoughts.\\
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He has also set up VetinariJobSecurity several times: the most obvious is in in ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' when he leaves to pursue Angua and Fred Colon is left in charge, the watch falls apart. Not surprising given that [[ForegoneConclusion it's Fred Colon]], but Vetinari lampshades that as everyone knows Vimes and Carrot will be back soon, no criminals take advantage of the Watch’s self destruction for fear of their wrath. The book ends with Carrot very politely bullying the collapsed watch back into shape by reminding them they swore an oath to the king to do their duty.\\
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When ''Vetinari'' has trouble reading your motives, says things like, "You drive a hard bargain, Captain," and you reply, "I wasn’t aware I was driving a bargain at all, sir," ''and live'' you ''have'' to be TheChessmaster, albeit probably a benevolent one.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: There is quite a substantial group of fans who hold the view that Carrot is evil and/or TheChessmaster. It helps that he is almost never the POV character - we get to hear what Vimes or Angua think ''about'' him but hardly ever see Carrot's actual thoughts.\\
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has also set up VetinariJobSecurity several times: the most obvious is in in ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' when he leaves to pursue Angua and Fred Colon is left in charge, the watch falls apart. Not surprising given that [[ForegoneConclusion it's Fred Colon]], but Vetinari lampshades that as everyone knows Vimes and Carrot will be back soon, no criminals take advantage of the Watch’s self destruction for fear of their wrath. The book ends with Carrot very politely bullying the collapsed watch back into shape by reminding them they swore an oath to the king to do their duty.\\
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''Vetinari'' has trouble reading your motives, says things like, "You drive a hard bargain, Captain," and you reply, "I wasn’t aware I was driving a bargain at all, sir," ''and live'' you ''have'' to be TheChessmaster, albeit probably a benevolent one.
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** Same with Vimes and the Unseen University taking over the Watch series and the Rincewind series.

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** Same with Vimes and the main Unseen University faculty (Ridcully, Ponder and the Librarian) taking over the Watch series and the Rincewind series.
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** Pretty much any scene where the Feegles cut loose.
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* EldritchAbomination: Bel-Shamharoth.

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