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* ''YMMV/FinalFantasyVII
* ''[[YMMV/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren Advent Children]]''
* ''YMMV/CrisisCore''
* ''YMMV/FinalFantasyVIIRemake''
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* ''YMMV/FinalFantasyVII
* ''[[YMMV/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren Advent Children]]''
* ''YMMV/CrisisCore''
* ''YMMV/FinalFantasyVIIRemake''
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: The game was clearly not intended as the final chapter of the original ''Final Fantasy VII'' timeline, considering its SequelHook that was never followed up on, but since this is the game where characters such as Cloud and Tifa seem to be at the happiest they’ve ever been, it is nice to look back and see that those characters ended their timeline in much better spirits than any earlier timeline appearance had them at.
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* SalvagedStory: In spite of the game’s other problems, one thing that most fans tend to agree on is that Cloud’s characterization was a huge step up from his recent portrayal in ''Advent Children'' (and when including appearances outside of the ''Compilation'', his appearances in the ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'' series as well), in which he was seen as being far too {{Wangst}}y. In ''Dirge of Cerberus'' by comparison, Cloud is much more confident and upbeat, showing that he was finally able to move in a healthier direction after the original ''Final Fantasy VII'' than he was shown to in ''Advent Children''. To a lesser extent this also applies to Tifa, who also seems much happier than she did in ''Advent Children''.
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* SalvagedStory: In spite of the game’s other problems, one thing that most fans tend to agree on is that Cloud’s characterization was a huge step up from his recent portrayal in ''Advent Children'' (and when including appearances outside of the ''Compilation'', his appearances in the ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'' series as well), in which he was seen as being far too {{Wangst}}y. In ''Dirge of Cerberus'' by comparison, Cloud is much more confident and upbeat, showing that he was finally able to move in a healthier direction after the original ''Final Fantasy VII'' than he was shown to in ''Advent Children''.VII''. To a lesser extent this also applies to Tifa, who also seems much happier than she did in ''Advent Children''.
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* SalvagedStory: In spite of the game’s other problems, one thing that most fans tend to agree on is that Cloud’s characterization was a huge step up from his recent portrayal in ''Advent Children'' (and when including appearances outside of the ''Compilation'', his appearances in the ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'' series as well), in which he was seen as being far too {{Wangst}}y. In ''Dirge of Cerberus'' by comparison, Cloud is much more confident and upbeat, showing that he was finally able to move in a healthier direction after the original ''Final Fantasy VII'' than he was shown to in ''Advent Children''. To a lesser extent this also applies to Tifa, who also seems much happier than she did in ''Advent Children''.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: We have a focus on Vincent's past with Lucrecia and Hojo during the Jenova Project, but Gast (Aerith's father) is nowhere to be found. Which is pretty perplexing since Gast was brought up by Vincent in his flashback in the original game ([[AllInTheManual and according to the Ultimanias]] [[{{Retcon}} the original reason]] why Lucrecia chose Hojo over Vincent was because she pitied him over being compared to the top scientist). It would have been interesting to expand more of his character out and his connection to the others during this time, but he's never seen or brought up by anyone.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: We have a focus on Vincent's past with Lucrecia and Hojo during the Jenova Project, but Gast (Aerith's father) is nowhere to be found. Which is pretty perplexing since Gast was brought up by Vincent in his flashback in the original game ([[AllInTheManual and according to the Ultimanias]] [[{{Retcon}} the original reason]] why Lucrecia chose Hojo over Vincent was because she pitied him over being compared to the top scientist). It would have been interesting to expand more of his character out and his connection to the others during this time, but he's never seen or brought up by anyone. Gets worse when you consider Hojo has a massive inferiority complex about Gast being the better scientist, and Hojo's character desperately needed some depth in this game, as he comes off as so ObviouslyEvil it's a miracle Lucrecia or anyone else could stand being in the same room with him long enough to complete the JENOVA project.
** The flashbacks are 25-30 years in the past, but there's no sense of how things have changed - had mako energy already been discovered? Were reactors being built? Are tensions with Wutai brewing? Is the company still Shinra Manufacturing or had it been renamed yet? Were the Turks Vincent joined the same 'professional bad guys' they are in the present day? Etc.
** The flashbacks are 25-30 years in the past, but there's no sense of how things have changed - had mako energy already been discovered? Were reactors being built? Are tensions with Wutai brewing? Is the company still Shinra Manufacturing or had it been renamed yet? Were the Turks Vincent joined the same 'professional bad guys' they are in the present day? Etc.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The combat is extremely clunky with a controller, both demanding precision and fast reflexes with a number of the encounters while having a very slow and clunky turn speed that robs the game of precision ''or'' fast reflexes. What the game doesn't even really advertise besides a small bit on the back of the box is full keyboard and mouse support, allowing you to play the game in a much more fluid manner. This was intended for the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only Online Mode]], but ends up becoming one of the game's saving graces that actually makes it somewhat fun if you use it.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The combat is extremely clunky with a controller, both demanding precision and fast reflexes with a number of the encounters while having a very slow and clunky turn speed that robs the game of precision ''or'' fast reflexes. What the game doesn't even really advertise besides a small bit on the back of the box is full keyboard and mouse support, allowing you to play the game in a much more fluid manner. This was intended for the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only Online Mode]], but ends up becoming one of the game's saving graces into being kind of a little fun if you use it.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The combat is extremely clunky with a controller, both demanding precision and fast reflexes with a number of the encounters while having a very slow and clunky turn speed that robs the game of precision ''or'' fast reflexes. What the game doesn't even really advertise besides a small bit on the back of the box is full keyboard and mouse support, allowing you to play the game in a much more fluid manner. This was intended for the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only Online Mode]], but ends up becoming one of the game's saving graces into being kind of a little that actually makes it somewhat fun if you use it.
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** The cutscene fight between [[spoiler:Chaos!]]Vincent and Weiss right before the FinalBoss. If the rest of the game didn't spell out just how goddang anime it was, the pair basically go all ''[[Franchise/TheMatrix Matrix]]'' on eachother, revolver versus dual katanas, and even start pulling off FlashStep hijinks to an absurd extreme. It's like two kids on the playground trying to one-up eachother.
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** The cutscene fight between [[spoiler:Chaos!]]Vincent and Weiss right before the FinalBoss. If the rest of the game didn't spell out just how goddang anime it was, the pair basically go all ''[[Franchise/TheMatrix Matrix]]'' on eachother, each other, revolver versus dual katanas, and even start pulling off FlashStep hijinks to an absurd extreme. It's like two kids on the playground trying to one-up eachother.
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* ThatOneBoss: Arch Azul has a horrendously stupid gimmick. He's immune to projectiles. This includes Bullets. ''Dirge of Cerberus'' is a ''THIRD-PERSON SHOOTER!!'' What you're supposed to do with him is transform and then beat him down with your [[SuperMode Limit Break]]. This works unless Arch Azul gets lucky and then can stunlock you to death. Aside from the Limit Break, you have your claw and your magic which have both sucked from the start and time has not been sweet to them either.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: We have focus on Vincent's past with Lurecia and Hojo during the Jenova Project, but Gast (Aerith's father) is no where to be found. Which is pretty perplexing since Gast was brought up by Vincent in his flashback in the original game ([[AllInTheManual and according to the Ultimanias]] [[{{Retcon}} the original reason]] why Lucrecia chose Hojo over Vincent was because she pitied him over being compared to the top sciensist). It would have been interesting to expand more of his character out and his connection to the others during this time, but he's never seen or brought up by anyone.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: We have focus on Vincent's past with Lurecia and Hojo during the Jenova Project, but Gast (Aerith's father) is no where to be found. Which is pretty perplexing since Gast was brought up by Vincent in his flashback in the original game ([[AllInTheManual and according to the Ultimanias]] [[{{Retcon}} the original reason]] why Lucrecia chose Hojo over Vincent was because she pitied him over being compared to the top sciensist). It would have been interesting to expand more of his character out and his connection to the others during this time, but he's never seen or brought up by anyone.
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* ThatOneBoss: Arch Azul has a horrendously stupid gimmick. He's gimmick: he's immune to projectiles. This includes Bullets. bullets. ''Dirge of Cerberus'' is a ''THIRD-PERSON SHOOTER!!'' third-person shooter [[DidntThinkThisThrough where projectiles make up almost all of your offensive capability]]. What you're supposed to do with him is transform and then beat him down with your [[SuperMode Limit Break]]. This works unless Arch Azul gets lucky and then can stunlock you to death. Aside from the Limit Break, you have your claw and your magic magic, which have both sucked from the start and time has not been sweet to them either.
even by this point of the game don't really get any better with leveling up.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: We have a focus on Vincent's past withLurecia Lucrecia and Hojo during the Jenova Project, but Gast (Aerith's father) is no where nowhere to be found. Which is pretty perplexing since Gast was brought up by Vincent in his flashback in the original game ([[AllInTheManual and according to the Ultimanias]] [[{{Retcon}} the original reason]] why Lucrecia chose Hojo over Vincent was because she pitied him over being compared to the top sciensist).scientist). It would have been interesting to expand more of his character out and his connection to the others during this time, but he's never seen or brought up by anyone.
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** Weiss. While he's very similar to Rosso, being a murderer without any remorse for his actions, and used his own Tsviets (including the player)--who helped him kill the Restrictors and died for it--simply to achieve his goals, the one thing he wanted the most was to leave Deepground and be free. There are also implications that he wanted to free Nero, who had largely been chained up during all this time.
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** Weiss. While he's very similar to Rosso, being a murderer without any remorse for his actions, and used his own Tsviets (including the player)--who player in the Japan-only online mode)--who helped him kill the Restrictors and died for it--simply to achieve his goals, the one thing he wanted the most was to leave Deepground and be free. There are also implications that he wanted to free Nero, who had largely been chained up during all this time.
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** Lucrecia is supposed to come off as a WellIntentionedExtremist, what with her noble intentions and her clear remorse for her actions. However, she makes one horrible, stupid mistake after another: her lack of caution gets Vincent's father killed, she hooks up with [[ObviouslyEvil Hojo]], and she blithely experiments on her own child in utero. Then she seals herself away once she can no longer live with her actions... which leaves Vincent (one of the people she hurt the most) to clean up her mess.
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** Lucrecia is supposed to come off as a WellIntentionedExtremist, what with her noble intentions and her clear remorse for her actions. However, she makes one horrible, stupid mistake after another: her lack of caution gets Vincent's father killed, she hooks up with [[ObviouslyEvil Hojo]], Hojo]] after [[PoorCommunicationKills refusing to simply talk to Vincent]] when he learns about his father's death, and she blithely experiments on her own child in utero. Then she seals herself away once she can no longer live with her actions... which leaves Vincent (one of the people she hurt the most) to clean up her mess.
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** Weiss and Nero too. If it wasn't stated they were brothers, their relationship could be interpreted as lovers. Their interactions and dialogue don't help. Though for some fans, there is still IncestSubtext. The Japanese version adds more fuel; Nero uses the word "''ai''" when it comes to his love for his brother, implying there is something here.
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** Weiss and Nero too. If it wasn't stated they Weiss and Nero were brothers, their relationship could be interpreted as lovers. Their interactions and dialogue don't help. Though for some fans, there is still IncestSubtext. The Japanese version adds more fuel; Nero uses the word "''ai''" when it comes to his love for his brother, implying there is something here.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Westerns pretty much discard Weiss in the same vein as Genesis and believe he is just a Sephiroth-like, badly written, bland villain. However he is more clearly liked in Japan and some people like him for his design, badass attitude and especially for the HoYay moments with ​his brother. The fact that the Japanese online version of the game had been AdaptedOut in the Western version did not help since the mode showed Weiss's personality and his role in Deepground.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The combat is extremely clunky with a controller, both demanding precision and fast reflexes with a number of the encounters. What the game doesn't even really advertise besides a small bit on the back of the box is full keyboard and mouse support, allowing you to play the game in a much more fluid manner. This was intended for the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only Online Mode]], but ends up becoming one of the game's saving graces into being kind of a little fun if you use it.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The combat is extremely clunky with a controller, both demanding precision and fast reflexes with a number of the encounters. What the game doesn't even really advertise besides a small bit on the back of the box is full keyboard and mouse support, allowing you to play the game in a much more fluid manner. This was intended for the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only Online Mode]], but ends up becoming one of the game's saving graces into being kind of a little fun if you use it.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Westerns pretty much Western players tend to discard Weiss in the same vein as Genesis and believe he is just a Sephiroth-like, badly written, written bland Sephiroth-clone villain. However However, he is more clearly liked in Japan and some people like him for his design, badass attitude and especially for the HoYay moments with ​his his brother. The fact that the Japanese online version of the game had been AdaptedOut in the Western version did not help since the mode showed Weiss's actual personality rather than [[spoiler:him possessed by Hojo]] and his role in Deepground.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The combat is extremely clunky with a controller, both demanding precision and fast reflexes with a number of theencounters.encounters while having a very slow and clunky turn speed that robs the game of precision ''or'' fast reflexes. What the game doesn't even really advertise besides a small bit on the back of the box is full keyboard and mouse support, allowing you to play the game in a much more fluid manner. This was intended for the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only Online Mode]], but ends up becoming one of the game's saving graces into being kind of a little fun if you use it.
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* ContinuityLockout: Not that one should play a sequel without having played the original, but plot points and terms from both the original ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' and ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'' are relevant to the game's storyline to the point that the intro takes place ''during the endgame of the original''. For those that missed Vincent's optional backstory flashbacks in the original game (or, you know, [[OptionalPartyMember Vincent himself]]), his backstory's recapped and explained in more detail, but the game doesn't even take five seconds to explain anything else that isn't new to its own story. It doesn't help that several of these plot points also get a nasty smack dab of RetroactiveContinuity, only muddling things even further.
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* ContinuityLockout: Not that it's normally expected for one should to play a sequel without having played the original, but plot points and terms from both the original ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' and ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'' are relevant to the game's storyline to the point that the intro takes place ''during the endgame of the original''. For those that missed Vincent's optional backstory flashbacks in the original game (or, you know, [[OptionalPartyMember Vincent himself]]), his backstory's recapped and explained in more detail, but the game doesn't even take five seconds to explain anything else that isn't new to its own story. It doesn't help that several of these plot points also get a nasty smack dab of RetroactiveContinuity, only muddling things even further.
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** Shalua has a HeroicSacrifice moment to save Shelke and Vincent, before Azul seemingly pastes her on the other side of a locked door. Except for two things; due to the game having BloodlessCarnage, instead of blood seeping under the door, it's oil that looks more like she [[PottyFailure pissed herself]]. And then shortly thereafter [[spoiler:she's recovered completely intact and in a coma with her fate left ambiguous. This in spite of basically being mauled by a beast the size of a semi-truck.]]
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** Shalua has a HeroicSacrifice moment to save Shelke and Vincent, before Azul seemingly pastes her on the other side of a locked door. Except for two things; due to the game having BloodlessCarnage, instead of blood seeping under the door, it's oil that looks more like she [[PottyFailure pissed herself]]. And then shortly thereafter [[spoiler:she's recovered completely intact intact, save for the mechanical arm that got crushed in a door (which the game positions her to never show), and in a coma with her fate left ambiguous. This in spite of basically being mauled by a beast the size of a semi-truck.]]
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** Nero the Sable is this too: he is either the worst character of the game with the most ridiculous design and because of his {{Narm}} moments, or the most interesting Tsviet with his darkness powers, his HiddenDepths and his love and devotion for Weiss.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: For an antagonist group that was cut off by being exclusive to this game (at least until ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' hinted at [[spoiler:bringing them into the picture far sooner]]), people who don't resent Deepground as another strange facet of this game's story tend to really get behind Rosso for being EvilIsSexy, Weiss for being a surprisingly hardcore villain that doesn't dive into being a Sephiroth clone despite his appearance, and Shelke for adding to the cast dynamic in a unique way with her HeelFaceTurn.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: We have focus on Vincent's past with Lurecia and Hojo during the Jenova Project, but Gast (Aerith's father) is no where to be found. Which is pretty complexing since Gast was brought up by Vincent in his flashback in the original game ([[AllInTheManual and according to the Ultimanias]] [[{{Retcon}} the original reason]] why Lucrecia chose Hojo over Vincent was because she pitied him over being compared to the top sciensist). It would have been interesting to expand more of his character out and his connection to the others during this time, but he's never seen or brought up by anyone.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: We have focus on Vincent's past with Lurecia and Hojo during the Jenova Project, but Gast (Aerith's father) is no where to be found. Which is pretty complexing perplexing since Gast was brought up by Vincent in his flashback in the original game ([[AllInTheManual and according to the Ultimanias]] [[{{Retcon}} the original reason]] why Lucrecia chose Hojo over Vincent was because she pitied him over being compared to the top sciensist). It would have been interesting to expand more of his character out and his connection to the others during this time, but he's never seen or brought up by anyone.
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** Shelke just seems like an EmotionlessGirl that was dragged into Deepground against her will and is put into horrible circumstances against her choice. But before she is forced to do a HeelFaceTurn because her allies decided that she [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness wasn't useful to their plans anymore]], she openly cooperated with and fully supported her "captors" as one of their primary members and as a leader of Deepground, making her wholly complicit in genocide; a plan that was intended to ''[[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt wipe all life from the Planet]]''. Even worse, the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only]] Online Mode pretty much had her [[spoiler:MindRape the protagonist into complacency, and then KickTheDog by telling them everything that'd worked for up to that point was just a ruse she created, and they got used like a sucker. While they're bleeding out and dying.]] She gets off scot-free for all of this as a KarmaHoudini, with the only real punishment being her sister's [[HeroicSacrifice fate]] (which potentially isn't even permanent).
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** Shelke just seems like an EmotionlessGirl that was dragged into Deepground against her will and is put into horrible circumstances against her choice.will. But before she is forced to do a HeelFaceTurn because her allies decided that she [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness wasn't useful to their plans anymore]], she openly cooperated with and fully supported her "captors" as one of their primary members and as a leader of Deepground, making her wholly complicit in genocide; a plan that was intended to ''[[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt wipe all life from the Planet]]''. Even worse, the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only]] Online Mode pretty much had her [[spoiler:MindRape the protagonist into complacency, and then KickTheDog by telling them everything that'd worked for up to that point was just a ruse she created, and they got used like a sucker. While they're bleeding out and dying.]] She gets off scot-free for all of this as a KarmaHoudini, with the only real punishment being her sister's [[HeroicSacrifice fate]] (which potentially isn't even permanent).
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** Rosso the Crimson. There's just something oddly alluring about a [[AxCrazy not-quite-there]], {{sadist}}ic LadyInRed FemmeFatale [[BloodLust with a thing for blood]] and [[ImpossiblyCoolWeapon a snazzy weapon]]. Having a nice figure ([[BareYourMidriff and the]] [[UnderwearOfPower clothes]] [[{{Stripperiffic}} by which to flaunt it]]) as well as the voice of Creator/AtsukoTanaka and Creator/MaryElizabethMcGlynn (the latter giving Rosso a [[FakeRussian Russian accent]], which may or may not add to the sexy factor) and FoeYay with TheHero never hurts either.
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** Rosso the Crimson. There's just something oddly alluring about a [[AxCrazy not-quite-there]], {{sadist}}ic LadyInRed FemmeFatale [[BloodLust with a thing for blood]] and [[ImpossiblyCoolWeapon a snazzy weapon]]. Having a nice figure ([[BareYourMidriff and the]] [[UnderwearOfPower clothes]] [[{{Stripperiffic}} by which to flaunt it]]) as well as the voice of Creator/AtsukoTanaka and Creator/MaryElizabethMcGlynn (the latter giving Rosso a [[FakeRussian Russian accent]], which may or may not add to the sexy factor) and FoeYay FoeYayShipping with TheHero never hurts either.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Oh, where do we start? Nero's face jockstrap? Weiss's karate pants? The Deepground soldiers' Mako-infused glowing uniforms? (Though to be fair, [[spoiler:they'll die without Mako infusions]].) Rosso's butt-cape and Azul's horse blanket? Heck, even Vincent's Chaos form might count as a ''heroic'' example. This is exactly why LetsPlay/TheDarkId's LP includes a special feature at the end of some updates titled "Fuck Tetsuya Nomura," dedicated to mocking the character designs of this game.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Oh, where do we start? Nero's face jockstrap? Weiss's karate pants? The Deepground soldiers' Mako-infused glowing uniforms? (Though to be fair, [[spoiler:they'll die without Mako infusions]].) Rosso's butt-cape and Azul's horse blanket? Heck, even Vincent's Chaos form might count as a ''heroic'' example. This is exactly why LetsPlay/TheDarkId's LP includes a special feature at the end of some updates titled "Fuck Tetsuya Nomura," dedicated to mocking the character designs of this game.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Depending on your point of view, Lucrecia can come across as either a remorseful victim of Hojo's insanity looking to make amends for harming the only man who ever really loved her, or as a callous BitchInSheepsClothing who strung Vincent along for years, [[spoiler:accidentally killed his father]], dumped him for Hojo, and then experimented on her own son ''in utero'', only to seal herself inside a crystal because she just couldn't live with herself any more. And Vincent ''still'' loves her.
** The Tsviets. Are they only monsters who committed atrocious actions for purely selfish motives or are they sympathetic people [[LaserGuidedTykebomb who were raised that way]] and driven insane due to the inhuman treatment they suffered? Well, it depends when you come to the characters themselves one to one.
** Weiss in the online game: a NominalHero who did it right to kill the Restrictors or a monster?
*** In general, due to the lack of appearance of the latter (save for the online mode) Weiss being either good or bad is quite a matter of debate. On one hand, Weiss shows no regret in manipulating people (especially the Player who is haunted by false memories of a supposed lost sibling), using them against each other to get to his own objectives and doesn't even flinch when [[spoiler:the Player is killed.]] The fact that [[spoiler:Genesis refused to help him against Restrictor seems to imply that helping Weiss would have been a bad thing.]] At the end of the game, [[spoiler:Weiss also fights Vincent/Chaos as Omega]] and he seems to take some delight in it. On the other hand, Weiss is quite determined to take Restrictor down and freeing his fellow Tsviets and before the Player [[spoiler:is killed by Restrictor]] he shows being quite supportive and clearly didn't expect the Player to die. While he displays contempt toward humans, the online mode doesn't seem to imply that Weiss is willing to slaughter them like it happened in the original game. [[spoiler: He is also retrieved by Genesis, who had been confirmed to come to save the Planet by WordOfGod.]] The debate is still up in the air.
** Nero: Were his feelings for Weiss simply [[KnightTemplarBigBrother an extreme form of]] [[BigBrotherInstinct brotherly love]] or were they [[VillainousIncest incestuous feelings]]? [[note]] Nero's Japanese voice actor [[https://twitter.com/chikichikiko/status/774469811229249537 confirmed via Twitter]] that Nero is a "Yandere brocon" meaning that Nero's feelings are in the "brother complex area", meaning in the area between sibling love and incest [[/note]].
*** Nero's attitude during his meeting with Shelke on the Shera. At one point, Shelke told him that she will not let people down who count on her. Nero briefly pauses for a moment before pretending it's just pure nonsense. Was he actually considering her words before resuming to attack her? Or did he actually relate to her during this moment because he behaves the same way toward Weiss?
** Did [[spoiler:Genesis]] come back as a new antagonist or for the purpose of saving the world? [[note]]WordOfGod is that it's the latter.[[/note]]
** In the online mode, while it's pretty clear that Tsviets manipulated the Player into killing Restrictor and getting revenge for them, some scenes involving their interactions with the player raises some question. For example, [[spoiler:Rosso's attitude when the player dies isn't mockery. She is quite disappointed because the player worked hard to get to the Tsviet position. Not to mention after their fight, Weiss also whispers to the player that "they will get avenged" in an oddly compassionate way]]. Compared to their usual behavior in the original game, it may imply a level of comradeship there.
** Is Shelke's DefrostingTheIceQueen attitude toward Vincent only due to the fact that she collected Lucrecia's data to help Vincent, or does she genuinely like him?
** Depending on your point of view, Lucrecia can come across as either a remorseful victim of Hojo's insanity looking to make amends for harming the only man who ever really loved her, or as a callous BitchInSheepsClothing who strung Vincent along for years, [[spoiler:accidentally killed his father]], dumped him for Hojo, and then experimented on her own son ''in utero'', only to seal herself inside a crystal because she just couldn't live with herself any more. And Vincent ''still'' loves her.
** The Tsviets. Are they only monsters who committed atrocious actions for purely selfish motives or are they sympathetic people [[LaserGuidedTykebomb who were raised that way]] and driven insane due to the inhuman treatment they suffered? Well, it depends when you come to the characters themselves one to one.
** Weiss in the online game: a NominalHero who did it right to kill the Restrictors or a monster?
*** In general, due to the lack of appearance of the latter (save for the online mode) Weiss being either good or bad is quite a matter of debate. On one hand, Weiss shows no regret in manipulating people (especially the Player who is haunted by false memories of a supposed lost sibling), using them against each other to get to his own objectives and doesn't even flinch when [[spoiler:the Player is killed.]] The fact that [[spoiler:Genesis refused to help him against Restrictor seems to imply that helping Weiss would have been a bad thing.]] At the end of the game, [[spoiler:Weiss also fights Vincent/Chaos as Omega]] and he seems to take some delight in it. On the other hand, Weiss is quite determined to take Restrictor down and freeing his fellow Tsviets and before the Player [[spoiler:is killed by Restrictor]] he shows being quite supportive and clearly didn't expect the Player to die. While he displays contempt toward humans, the online mode doesn't seem to imply that Weiss is willing to slaughter them like it happened in the original game. [[spoiler: He is also retrieved by Genesis, who had been confirmed to come to save the Planet by WordOfGod.]] The debate is still up in the air.
** Nero: Were his feelings for Weiss simply [[KnightTemplarBigBrother an extreme form of]] [[BigBrotherInstinct brotherly love]] or were they [[VillainousIncest incestuous feelings]]? [[note]] Nero's Japanese voice actor [[https://twitter.com/chikichikiko/status/774469811229249537 confirmed via Twitter]] that Nero is a "Yandere brocon" meaning that Nero's feelings are in the "brother complex area", meaning in the area between sibling love and incest [[/note]].
*** Nero's attitude during his meeting with Shelke on the Shera. At one point, Shelke told him that she will not let people down who count on her. Nero briefly pauses for a moment before pretending it's just pure nonsense. Was he actually considering her words before resuming to attack her? Or did he actually relate to her during this moment because he behaves the same way toward Weiss?
** Did [[spoiler:Genesis]] come back as a new antagonist or for the purpose of saving the world? [[note]]WordOfGod is that it's the latter.[[/note]]
** In the online mode, while it's pretty clear that Tsviets manipulated the Player into killing Restrictor and getting revenge for them, some scenes involving their interactions with the player raises some question. For example, [[spoiler:Rosso's attitude when the player dies isn't mockery. She is quite disappointed because the player worked hard to get to the Tsviet position. Not to mention after their fight, Weiss also whispers to the player that "they will get avenged" in an oddly compassionate way]]. Compared to their usual behavior in the original game, it may imply a level of comradeship there.
** Is Shelke's DefrostingTheIceQueen attitude toward Vincent only due to the fact that she collected Lucrecia's data to help Vincent, or does she genuinely like him?
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** Depending on your point of view, Lucrecia can come across as either a remorseful victim of Hojo's insanity looking to make amends for harming the only man who ever really loved her, or as a callous BitchInSheepsClothing who strung Vincent along for years, [[spoiler:accidentally killed his father]], dumped him for Hojo, and then experimented on her own son ''in utero'', only to seal herself inside a crystal because she just couldn't live with herself any more. And Vincent ''still'' loves her.
** The Tsviets. Are they only monsters who committed atrocious actions for purely selfish motives or are they sympathetic people [[LaserGuidedTykebomb who were raised that way]] and driven insane due to the inhuman treatment they suffered? Well, it depends when you come to the characters themselves one to one.
** Weiss in the online game: a NominalHero who did it right to kill the Restrictors or a monster?
*** In general, due to the lack of appearance of the latter (save for the online mode) Weiss being either good or bad is quite a matter of debate. On one hand, Weiss shows no regret in manipulating people (especially the Player who is haunted by false memories of a supposed lost sibling), using them against each other to get to his own objectives and doesn't even flinch when [[spoiler:the Player is killed.]] The fact that [[spoiler:Genesis refused to help him against Restrictor seems to imply that helping Weiss would have been a bad thing.]] At the end of the game, [[spoiler:Weiss also fights Vincent/Chaos as Omega]] and he seems to take some delight in it. On the other hand, Weiss is quite determined to take Restrictor down and freeing his fellow Tsviets and before the Player [[spoiler:is killed by Restrictor]] he shows being quite supportive and clearly didn't expect the Player to die. While he displays contempt toward humans, the online mode doesn't seem to imply that Weiss is willing to slaughter them like it happened in the original game. [[spoiler: He is also retrieved by Genesis, who had been confirmed to come to save the Planet by WordOfGod.]] The debate is still up in the air.
** Nero: Were his feelings for Weiss simply [[KnightTemplarBigBrother an extreme form of]] [[BigBrotherInstinct brotherly love]] or were they [[VillainousIncest incestuous feelings]]? [[note]] Nero's Japanese voice actor [[https://twitter.com/chikichikiko/status/774469811229249537 confirmed via Twitter]] that Nero is a "Yandere brocon" meaning that Nero's feelings are in the "brother complex area", meaning in the area between sibling love and incest [[/note]].
*** Nero's attitude during his meeting with Shelke on the Shera. At one point, Shelke told him that she will not let people down who count on her. Nero briefly pauses for a moment before pretending it's just pure nonsense. Was he actually considering her words before resuming to attack her? Or did he actually relate to her during this moment because he behaves the same way toward Weiss?
** Did [[spoiler:Genesis]] come back as a new antagonist or for the purpose of saving the world? [[note]]WordOfGod is that it's the latter.[[/note]]
** In the online mode, while it's pretty clear that Tsviets manipulated the Player into killing Restrictor and getting revenge for them, some scenes involving their interactions with the player raises some question. For example, [[spoiler:Rosso's attitude when the player dies isn't mockery. She is quite disappointed because the player worked hard to get to the Tsviet position. Not to mention after their fight, Weiss also whispers to the player that "they will get avenged" in an oddly compassionate way]]. Compared to their usual behavior in the original game, it may imply a level of comradeship there.
** Is Shelke's DefrostingTheIceQueen attitude toward Vincent only due to the fact that she collected Lucrecia's data to help Vincent, or does she genuinely like him?AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/FinalFantasy Here]].
** Depending on your point of view, Lucrecia can come across as either a remorseful victim of Hojo's insanity looking to make amends for harming the only man who ever really loved her, or as a callous BitchInSheepsClothing who strung Vincent along for years, [[spoiler:accidentally killed his father]], dumped him for Hojo, and then experimented on her own son ''in utero'', only to seal herself inside a crystal because she just couldn't live with herself any more. And Vincent ''still'' loves her.
** The Tsviets. Are they only monsters who committed atrocious actions for purely selfish motives or are they sympathetic people [[LaserGuidedTykebomb who were raised that way]] and driven insane due to the inhuman treatment they suffered? Well, it depends when you come to the characters themselves one to one.
** Weiss in the online game: a NominalHero who did it right to kill the Restrictors or a monster?
*** In general, due to the lack of appearance of the latter (save for the online mode) Weiss being either good or bad is quite a matter of debate. On one hand, Weiss shows no regret in manipulating people (especially the Player who is haunted by false memories of a supposed lost sibling), using them against each other to get to his own objectives and doesn't even flinch when [[spoiler:the Player is killed.]] The fact that [[spoiler:Genesis refused to help him against Restrictor seems to imply that helping Weiss would have been a bad thing.]] At the end of the game, [[spoiler:Weiss also fights Vincent/Chaos as Omega]] and he seems to take some delight in it. On the other hand, Weiss is quite determined to take Restrictor down and freeing his fellow Tsviets and before the Player [[spoiler:is killed by Restrictor]] he shows being quite supportive and clearly didn't expect the Player to die. While he displays contempt toward humans, the online mode doesn't seem to imply that Weiss is willing to slaughter them like it happened in the original game. [[spoiler: He is also retrieved by Genesis, who had been confirmed to come to save the Planet by WordOfGod.]] The debate is still up in the air.
** Nero: Were his feelings for Weiss simply [[KnightTemplarBigBrother an extreme form of]] [[BigBrotherInstinct brotherly love]] or were they [[VillainousIncest incestuous feelings]]? [[note]] Nero's Japanese voice actor [[https://twitter.com/chikichikiko/status/774469811229249537 confirmed via Twitter]] that Nero is a "Yandere brocon" meaning that Nero's feelings are in the "brother complex area", meaning in the area between sibling love and incest [[/note]].
*** Nero's attitude during his meeting with Shelke on the Shera. At one point, Shelke told him that she will not let people down who count on her. Nero briefly pauses for a moment before pretending it's just pure nonsense. Was he actually considering her words before resuming to attack her? Or did he actually relate to her during this moment because he behaves the same way toward Weiss?
** Did [[spoiler:Genesis]] come back as a new antagonist or for the purpose of saving the world? [[note]]WordOfGod is that it's the latter.[[/note]]
** In the online mode, while it's pretty clear that Tsviets manipulated the Player into killing Restrictor and getting revenge for them, some scenes involving their interactions with the player raises some question. For example, [[spoiler:Rosso's attitude when the player dies isn't mockery. She is quite disappointed because the player worked hard to get to the Tsviet position. Not to mention after their fight, Weiss also whispers to the player that "they will get avenged" in an oddly compassionate way]]. Compared to their usual behavior in the original game, it may imply a level of comradeship there.
** Is Shelke's DefrostingTheIceQueen attitude toward Vincent only due to the fact that she collected Lucrecia's data to help Vincent, or does she genuinely like him?
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* FanPreferredCouple: Unsurprisingly, although Vincent still continues to pine for Lucrecia, this game made a lot of people pair up Vincent and Yuffie (which was already a popular, if not [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight slightly reaching]], ship in the fandom) due to their numerous interactions, [[SavvyGuyEnergeticGirl their polar opposite personalities]], and the fact that they save each other quite a lot over the course of the story.
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** Unsurprisingly, this game made a lot of people pair up Vincent and Yuffie (which was already a popular, if not [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight slightly reaching]], ship in the fandom) due to their numerous interactions, [[SavvyGuyEnergeticGirl their polar opposite personalities]], and the fact that they save each other quite a lot over the course of the story.
** Weiss/Nero also has a large fanbase, largely due to [[IncestSubtext the dubious nature of Nero's relationship with Weiss]] and his actions in the plot because of them. In terms of straight pairings, Nero/Shelke has some fans too.
** Unsurprisingly, this game made a lot of people pair up Vincent and Yuffie (which was already a popular, if not [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight slightly reaching]], ship in the fandom) due to their numerous interactions, [[SavvyGuyEnergeticGirl their polar opposite personalities]], and the fact that they save each other quite a lot over the course of the story.
** Weiss/Nero also has a large fanbase, largely due to [[IncestSubtext the dubious nature of Nero's relationship with Weiss]] and his actions in the plot because of them. In terms of straight pairings, Nero/Shelke has some fans too.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The combat is extremely clunky with a controller, both demanding precision and fast reflexes with a number of the encounters. What the game doesn't even really advertise besides a small bit on the back of the box is full keyboard and mouse support, allowing you to play the game in a much more fluid manner. This was intended for the [[NoExportForYou Japan-only Online Mode]], but ends up being one of the game's saving graces into being kind of a little fun if you use it.
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** The cutscene fight between [[spoiler:Chaos!]]Vincent and Weiss right before the FinalBoss. If the rest of the game didn't spell out just how goddang anime it was, the pair basically go all [[Franchise/TheMatrix Matrix]] on eachother, revolver versus dual katanas, and even start pulling off FlashStep hijinks to an absurd extreme. It's like two kids on the playground trying to one-up eachother.
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** The cutscene fight between [[spoiler:Chaos!]]Vincent and Weiss right before the FinalBoss. If the rest of the game didn't spell out just how goddang anime it was, the pair basically go all [[Franchise/TheMatrix Matrix]] ''[[Franchise/TheMatrix Matrix]]'' on eachother, revolver versus dual katanas, and even start pulling off FlashStep hijinks to an absurd extreme. It's like two kids on the playground trying to one-up eachother.
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%%** Or [[IncestYayShipping Bro Yay]], as it was between Nero and Weiss.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Westerns pretty much discard Weiss in the same vein as Genesis and believe he is just a Sephiroth-like, badly written, bland villain. However he is more clearly liked in Japan and some people like him for his design, badass attitude and especially for the HoYay moments with ​his brother. The fact that the Japanese online version of the game had been AdaptedOut in the Western version did not help since the mode showed Weiss's personality and his role in Deepground.
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** Between Vincent and Reeve. They are quite close and Vincent is quite emotional when Reeve is shot, though Reeve gets better.
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*** In Japanese mode, there is a scene involving Nero pinned to a pillar and the Player comes to meet him along with Usher. When the latter states that Weiss would have only three days to live after Restrictor's death, Nero violently reacts and lets out a ShriekingScream shrieking scream and engulfes the entire room with his darkness.
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* NoYay: Between Vincent and Shelke. One is an undead around 60 years-old person who is still clearly in love with Lucrecia. The other is a brainwashed emotionless 19 years-old girl who is trapped in a 9 years-old body who collected Lucrecia's data as well as her feelings for Vincent. Some people ship them though.
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** Between Vincent and Shelke. One is an undead around 60 years-old person who is still clearly in love with Lucrecia. The other is a brainwashed emotionless 19 years-old girl who is trapped in a 9 years-old body who collected Lucrecia's data as well as her feelings for Vincent. Some people ship them though.
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* WhatTheHellCostumingDepartment: Par for the course with [[SignatureStyle Nomura’s style.]] But adding to the above-mentioned examples under FashionVictimVillain, why is Lucrecia wearing so many huge hair-ties on her ponytail? Due to the way they all stack up, it almost looks like she has a birthday hat on her head from some angles. At least it’s hair-ties and not [[TooManyBelts belts]] or zippers, for once.
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* WhatTheHellCostumingDepartment: Par for the course with [[SignatureStyle Nomura’s style.]] But adding to the above-mentioned examples under FashionVictimVillain, why is Lucrecia wearing so many headbands on her ponytail? It almost looks like she has a birthday hat on her head from some angles. At least it’s headbands and not [[TooManyBelts belts]] or zippers, for once.
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* WhatTheHellCostumingDepartment: Par for the course with [[SignatureStyle Nomura’s style.]] But adding to the above-mentioned examples under FashionVictimVillain, why is Lucrecia wearing so many headbands huge hair-ties on her ponytail? It Due to the way they all stack up, it almost looks like she has a birthday hat on her head from some angles. At least it’s headbands hair-ties and not [[TooManyBelts belts]] or zippers, for once.
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* WhatTheHellCostumingDepartment: Par for the course with [[SignatureStyle Nomura’s style.]] But adding to the above-mentioned examples under FashionVictimVillain, why is Lucrecia wearing so many headbands on her ponytail? It almost looks like she has a birthday hat on her head from some angles. At least it’s headbands and not [[TooManyBelts belts]] or zippers, for once.
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