History YMMV / DickTracy

16th Apr '16 7:46:58 PM ProfessorGrimm
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* CultClassic: While, not quite a big hit when it came, it's still a very fun movie to watch.
24th Feb '16 4:11:45 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* Tearjerker: [[spoiler: The death of Breathless. With her final words to Tracy being "Could it ever have happened between us?"]]
** The Danny Elfman score accompanying this moment is what really drives it home.
4th Nov '15 12:49:38 AM dmitri01
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* BrokenBase: Moon Maid and the whole Moon Era she was a representative of.
* CreatorsPet: Moon Maid, who during her appearances under Gould was given a range of powers that many Golden Age superheroes would be envious of, and was frequently applauded for taking the law into her own hands. Fans of the strip were... [[BrokenBase more divisive.]]

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* BrokenBase: Moon Maid and the whole Moon Era which she was a representative of.representatived.
* CreatorsPet: Moon Maid, who during her appearances under Gould Maid was given a range of powers that many Golden Age superheroes would be envious of, and was frequently applauded for taking the law into her own hands. Fans of the strip were... were [[BrokenBase more divisive.divided.]]



** B. O. Plenty, Gravel Gertie, and their daughter Sparkle. Newer readers might be mystified as to how a family of hillbilly farmers got to be such prominent supporting characters in a Police Crime strip. The answer is that BO and Gertie both started out (in separate stories) as minor ''villains'' Tracy had to bring in. Then they reformed, met, fell in love, and married, gaining popularity as the PluckyComicRelief. The birth of their baby daughter Sparkle is widely regarded as the strip's high point in terms of merchandising, coinciding with the start of the BabyBoom.

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** B. O. Plenty, Gravel Gertie, and their daughter Sparkle. Newer readers might be mystified as to how a family of hillbilly farmers got to be such prominent supporting characters in a Police Crime strip. The answer is that BO B.O. and Gertie both started out (in separate stories) as minor ''villains'' Tracy had to bring in. Then they reformed, met, fell in love, and married, gaining popularity as the PluckyComicRelief. The birth of their baby daughter Sparkle is widely regarded as the strip's high point in terms of merchandising, coinciding with the start of the BabyBoom.



* SoBadItsGood: The Moon Period stories can actually be a lot of fun if you enjoy the very pulpiest of pulp science fiction. They're utterly ridiculous and out of place, but they're fun for ''exactly those reasons.'' And Gould's artwork during this period is ''gorgeous,'' arguably the best he ever did; he very clearly enjoyed getting to draw stuff so radically different from the normal restrictions of the strip's genre. Some even consider this period to be outright VindicatedByHistory, especially compared to the Locher era, and since Moon Maid's return under Curtis and Staton.
* TakeThatScrappy: The "Mr. Crime" storyline that ran in 2011-2012 revealed early on that there was a mole inside the police department. To the surprise of very few readers, this turned out to be Lt. Teevo, the one recurring character that had been introduced by Dick Locher, and at the conclusion of the storyline he ended up being fed to a giant, carnivorous plant.
* VindicatedByHistory: As mentioned above, many fans now consider the Moon stories to be this. In addition, Mike Kilian's writing has started to be looked on more favorably by fans in the years since his death, with many feeling that his work actually stacks up pretty well compared to most other contemporary adventure strips, and that if anything he probably had an impossible task in trying to replace Max Allan Collins (the manner in which Collins got forced off the strip likely didn't help Kilian's job, either).
** In the case of Moon Maid and her era, the people who really hated it tended to be older fans, including those old enough to write published articles and books about Dick Tracy, which was pretty much the only way a fan could publicly express their opinion in those pre-Internet days. By the time Dick Tracy became available on the Internet, Moon Maid had been dead for decades and almost never even mentioned since then by Collins or his successors, so there just wasn't much occasion to talk about her. When Curtis & Staton began to revive her, it brought out into the open a fandom for Moon Maid that had always been there, but had never had much opportunity to express itself until then.

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* SoBadItsGood: The Moon Period stories can actually be a lot of fun if you enjoy the very pulpiest of pulp science fiction. They're utterly ridiculous and out of place, but they're they can be fun for ''exactly those reasons.'' And Gould's artwork during this period is ''gorgeous,'' arguably the best he ever did; impressive; he very clearly enjoyed getting to draw stuff so radically different from the normal restrictions of the strip's genre. Some even fans consider this period to be outright VindicatedByHistory, especially compared to the Locher era, and since Moon Maid's return under Curtis and Staton.
* TakeThatScrappy: The "Mr. Crime" storyline that ran in 2011-2012 revealed early on that there was a mole inside the police department. To the surprise of very few readers, this This turned out to be Lt. Teevo, the one recurring character that had been introduced by Dick Locher, and at the conclusion of the storyline he ended up being fed to a giant, carnivorous plant.
* VindicatedByHistory: As mentioned above, many some fans now consider the Moon stories to be this. In addition, Mike Kilian's writing has started to be looked on more favorably by fans in the years since his death, with many feeling that his work actually stacks up pretty well compared to most other contemporary adventure strips, and that if anything he probably had an impossible task strips. He is also given the benefit of the doubt for being in the difficult position of trying to replace Max Allan Collins (the manner in which Collins got forced off the strip likely didn't help Kilian's job, either).
** In the case of Moon Maid and her era, the people who really hated it tended to be older fans, including those old enough to write published articles and books about Dick Tracy, which was pretty much the only way a fan could publicly express their opinion in those pre-Internet days. By the time Dick Tracy became available on the Internet, Moon Maid had been dead for decades and almost never even mentioned since then by Collins or his successors, so there just wasn't much occasion to talk about her. When Curtis & Staton began to revive her, it brought out into the open a fandom for Moon Maid that had always been there, but had never had much opportunity to express itself until then.
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* NightmareFuel: The general freakish nature of most of Tracy's rogue gallery, where with the exception of the Breathless Mahoney (who [[spoiler: designed the Blank costume/persona to wear so that she could go around killing people without anyone suspecting her]]), the costume designers went overboard to portray all of Tracy's villains as the grotesque looking freaks they were in the comics. Even Al Pacino's Big Boy Caprice makeup is unsettling.
** So many of the gangsters (Pruneface, Influence, and Steve the Tramp, to name just three) are so unbelievably ugly (courtesy of some truly pull-out-all-the-stops movie makeup) that the average 6- or 7-year-old's reaction is less likely to be "Hee-hee, they're funny-looking" to "Mommy, make the scary people go away...."
** A surprisingly high body count for a PG-rated film, with seven men being killed in the first 10 minutes alone.

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* NightmareFuel: The general freakish nature of most of Tracy's rogue gallery, where with the exception of the Breathless Mahoney (who [[spoiler: designed the Blank costume/persona to wear so that she could go around killing people without anyone suspecting her]]), the costume designers went overboard to portray met the challenge of portraying all of Tracy's villains as the grotesque looking freaks grotesques they were in the comics. Even Al Pacino's Big Boy Caprice makeup is unsettling.
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** So many of the gangsters (Pruneface, Influence, and Steve the Tramp, to name just three) are so unbelievably ugly (courtesy of some truly pull-out-all-the-stops movie makeup) that the average 6- or 7-year-old's reaction is less likely to be "Hee-hee, they're funny-looking" to "Mommy, make the scary people go away...."
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The film has a surprisingly high body count for a PG-rated film, with seven men being killed in the first 10 minutes alone.alone. Despite all the death, there is very little blood or gore.



** The final gun battle on the street, with [[spoiler: Influence]] and [[spoiler: Flattop]] shown getting shot in disturbing close-ups. ([[spoiler: Flattop's]] spasmodic death throes, his tommy gun firing wildly as his fingers lock on the trigger in a death grip, is virtually guaranteed to be the stuff of nightmares.)

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** The final gun battle on the street, with [[spoiler: Influence]] and [[spoiler: Flattop]] shown getting shot in disturbing close-ups. ([[spoiler: Flattop's]] spasmodic death throes, his tommy gun firing wildly as his fingers lock on the trigger in a death grip, is virtually guaranteed to be the stuff of nightmares.especially graphic.)



* WhatAnIdiot: '''''Somehow''''', Itchy's obviously phony orphanage ploy has Tracy completely fooled. AND ONLY HIM, Kid wasn't fooled for a second.
** It's possible the Kid was fooled, as the prospect of going to the orphanage wasn't exactly appealing to him...

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* WhatAnIdiot: '''''Somehow''''', Itchy's obviously phony orphanage ploy has Tracy completely fooled. AND ONLY HIM, Kid wasn't fooled for a second.
** It's possible the Kid was fooled, as the prospect of going to the orphanage wasn't exactly appealing to him...



* EthnicScrappy: Joe-Jitsu and Go-Go Gomez in one of the animated series. Think about the worst way you could animate an Asian and a Mexican while still having them be good guys. That's about it.

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* EthnicScrappy: Joe-Jitsu Joe Jitsu and Go-Go Gomez in one of are broad ethnic stereotypes. They were the animated series. Think about good guys, and such stereotypes were considered acceptable at the worst way you could animate an Asian and a Mexican while still having time, but modern viewers may find them be good guys. That's about it.
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30th May '15 11:45:16 AM mikrolik
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** It's possible the Kid was fooled, as the prospect of going to the orphanage wasn't exactly appealing to him...
22nd Mar '15 11:45:53 AM Eegah
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* HilariousInHindsight: Charlie Korsmo, here playing a kid who desperately wants to be a cop, grew up to become a lawyer.
22nd Feb '15 11:54:27 AM k9feline7
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** And Mumbles. Popular enough to [[NotQuiteDead be brought back from the dead TWICE]].

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** And Mumbles. Popular enough to [[NotQuiteDead be brought back from the dead TWICE]]. dead]] [[UpToEleven THREE]] [[DeathIsCheap TIMES!]]
22nd Feb '15 11:52:17 AM k9feline7
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** Although he was created by Chester Gould, Max Allan Collins really likes ham-actor Vitamin Flintheart (and in the introductions to many of the Complete Chester Gould's Dick Tracy Books, he's pretty much out in the open about this). Gould created Flintheart in the mid 1940's, used him up until 1950, then never again for his entire run. Collins brought Vitamin back for his first story in 1978, then used the character in several stories up until his run ended in 1993 (though unlike Moon Maid, fans didn't seem to particularly object).
* DorkAge: Arguably from the start of the "Space Era" in the 1960s until Max Allan Collins took over as writer, and ''definitely'' Dick Locher's era as writer.

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** Although he was created by Chester Gould, Max Allan Collins really likes ham-actor Vitamin Flintheart (and in the introductions to many of the Complete Chester Gould's Dick Tracy Books, he's pretty much out in the open about this). Gould created Flintheart in the mid 1940's, used him up until 1950, then never again for his entire run. Collins brought Vitamin back for his first story in 1978, then used the character in several stories up until his run ended in 1993 (though unlike Moon Maid, fans there didn't seem to be any fans who particularly object).
objected).
* DorkAge: [[BrokenBase Arguably from the start of the "Space Era" in the 1960s 1960s]] until Max Allan Collins took over as writer, and ''definitely'' Dick Locher's era as writer.



** BO Plenty, Gravel Gertie, and their daughter Sparkle. Newer readers might be mystified as to how a family of hillbilly farmers got to be such prominent supporting characters in a Police Crime strip. The answers is that they both started out (in separate stories) as minor ''villains'' Tracy had to bring in. Then they reformed, met, fell in love, and married, gaining popularity as the PluckyComicRelief. The birth of their baby daughter Sparkle is widely regarded as the strip's high point in terms of merchandising, coinciding with the start of the BabyBoom.

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** BO B. O. Plenty, Gravel Gertie, and their daughter Sparkle. Newer readers might be mystified as to how a family of hillbilly farmers got to be such prominent supporting characters in a Police Crime strip. The answers answer is that they BO and Gertie both started out (in separate stories) as minor ''villains'' Tracy had to bring in. Then they reformed, met, fell in love, and married, gaining popularity as the PluckyComicRelief. The birth of their baby daughter Sparkle is widely regarded as the strip's high point in terms of merchandising, coinciding with the start of the BabyBoom.
20th Feb '15 3:50:38 PM k9feline7
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* CreatorsPet: Moon Maid, who during her appearances under Gould was given a range of powers that many Golden Age superheroes would be envious of, and was frequently applauded for taking the law into her own hands. Fans of the strip were... [[DorkAge not quite as enthralled with her...]]

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* BrokenBase: Moon Maid and the whole Moon Era she was a representative of.
* CreatorsPet: Moon Maid, who during her appearances under Gould was given a range of powers that many Golden Age superheroes would be envious of, and was frequently applauded for taking the law into her own hands. Fans of the strip were... [[DorkAge not quite as enthralled with her...[[BrokenBase more divisive.]]


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** BO Plenty, Gravel Gertie, and their daughter Sparkle. Newer readers might be mystified as to how a family of hillbilly farmers got to be such prominent supporting characters in a Police Crime strip. The answers is that they both started out (in separate stories) as minor ''villains'' Tracy had to bring in. Then they reformed, met, fell in love, and married, gaining popularity as the PluckyComicRelief. The birth of their baby daughter Sparkle is widely regarded as the strip's high point in terms of merchandising, coinciding with the start of the BabyBoom.
3rd Feb '15 4:59:10 PM dmcreif
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* NightmareFuel: the general freakish nature of most of Tracy's rogue gallery, where with the exception of the Breathless Mahoney (who [[spoiler: designed the Blank costume/persona to wear so that she could go around killing people without anyone suspecting her]]), the costume designers went overboard to portray all of Tracy's villains as the grotesque looking freaks they were in the comics. Even Big Boy Caprice.

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* NightmareFuel: the The general freakish nature of most of Tracy's rogue gallery, where with the exception of the Breathless Mahoney (who [[spoiler: designed the Blank costume/persona to wear so that she could go around killing people without anyone suspecting her]]), the costume designers went overboard to portray all of Tracy's villains as the grotesque looking freaks they were in the comics. Even Al Pacino's Big Boy Caprice.Caprice makeup is unsettling.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: [[UncannyValley Creepy as they may be,]] you can't deny the sheer quality of the makeup design. They actually look realistic to a degree. Add to that the set design and color scheme throughout, this is one good looking movie!

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: [[UncannyValley Creepy as they may be,]] you can't deny the sheer quality of the makeup design.design that won this movie the Academy Award for Best Makeup. They actually look realistic to a degree. Add to that the set design and color scheme throughout, this is one good looking movie!
30th Dec '14 9:50:24 AM mikrolik
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* CreatorsPet: Moon Maid, who during her appearances under Gould was given a range of powers that many Golden Age superheroes would be envious of, and was frequently applauded for taking the law into her own hands.
** Although he was created by Chester Gould, Max Allan Collins really likes ham-actor Vitamin Flintheart (and in the introductions to many of the Complete Chester Gould's Dick Tracy Books, he's pretty much out in the open about this). Gould created Flintheart in the mid 1940's, used him up until 1950, then never again for his entire run. Collins brought Vitamin back for his first story in 1978, then used the character in several stories up until his run ended in 1993.

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* CreatorsPet: Moon Maid, who during her appearances under Gould was given a range of powers that many Golden Age superheroes would be envious of, and was frequently applauded for taking the law into her own hands.
hands. Fans of the strip were... [[DorkAge not quite as enthralled with her...]]
** Although he was created by Chester Gould, Max Allan Collins really likes ham-actor Vitamin Flintheart (and in the introductions to many of the Complete Chester Gould's Dick Tracy Books, he's pretty much out in the open about this). Gould created Flintheart in the mid 1940's, used him up until 1950, then never again for his entire run. Collins brought Vitamin back for his first story in 1978, then used the character in several stories up until his run ended in 1993.1993 (though unlike Moon Maid, fans didn't seem to particularly object).
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