History YMMV / DefenseOfTheAncients

23rd Nov '14 8:58:32 AM Reimen
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* StopHavingFunGuys: [[RuleOfThree This is a MOBA]].

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* StopHavingFunGuys: [[RuleOfThree This is a MOBA]].MOBA.
19th Nov '14 9:42:38 PM Arachnos
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* NightmareFuel: The backstory of Nerif, the Oracle, is horrifying. And his [[PowerEchoes voice]] does not help.
30th Oct '14 1:02:00 PM doctrainAUM
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* GameBreaker: Item pooling. Recently [[{{Nerf}} nerfed]]. Also backdooring (no, not THAT backdooring) and cutting off your opponent's supply of creeps (the latter is debatable). The Fun Tavern (only available in versions where you can team up with and battle the AI) reveals that some heroes of past versions were even more broken.
** Backdooring was never a gamebreaker. People just didn't like it.

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* GameBreaker: Item pooling. Recently Eventually [[{{Nerf}} nerfed]]. Also backdooring (no, not THAT backdooring) and cutting off your opponent's supply of creeps (the latter is debatable). The Fun Tavern (only available in versions where you can team up with and battle the AI) reveals that some heroes of past versions were even more broken.
** Backdooring was never a gamebreaker. People just didn't like it.
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*** Also just recently, the Tauren Chieftain and the Batrider with Radiance... and a little before that, Kunkka.

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*** Also just recently, Also, the Tauren Chieftain and the Batrider with Radiance... and a little before that, Kunkka.
8th Jul '14 4:25:15 AM LogoP
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* FanDumb: This is a MOBA.
2nd Jul '14 8:45:35 AM Aiguille
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* AbridgedArenaArray[=/=]AdaptationDisplacement: Many people play ''[[{{Warcraft}} Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne]]'' [[JustHereForGodzilla just for DotA.]] ''WorldOfWarcraft'' notwithstanding.

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* AbridgedArenaArray[=/=]AdaptationDisplacement: Many people play ''[[{{Warcraft}} Warcraft III: ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII: The Frozen Throne]]'' Throne'' [[JustHereForGodzilla just for DotA.]] ''WorldOfWarcraft'' ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' notwithstanding.



** There are *lots* of mechanics that fit into this category, usually mechanics similar to denials that were either bugs, or unintentional side-effects of the Warcraft 3 engine. Most of them are kept in because the devs and lots of players believe it adds skill, but many still believe they're arbitrary.

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** There are *lots* of mechanics that fit into this category, usually mechanics similar to denials that were either bugs, or unintentional side-effects of the Warcraft 3 ''Warcraft III'' engine. Most of them are kept in because the devs and lots of players believe it adds skill, but many still believe they're arbitrary.
7th Jun '14 9:01:07 AM Statzkeen
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** [[http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8955/ideava5.jpg This]] picture best illustrates this phenomenon within [=DotA=]: All-stars itself. ({{NSFW}})
17th Aug '13 11:32:33 AM Viira
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** This one too, if you can understand it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGlJICZ35ks&fmt=18 [[hottip:*:[[{{Engrish}} Rough Translation]]: (C)What the hell is that, do you love me less than [=DotA=]?/Every night when I'm asleep you're just right here in my arms./When I woke up in the morning, you're not already there./Please tell me the truth, do you love [=DotA=] more than me?//When I wake up in the mornin',Gotta play all day in [=DotA=]/No money don't no matter cuz I'm ready for battle/I'm dreamin'/to get one off yo dawg/You place the bet dawg gotta beat the opposition/[[GratuitousEnglish 4 on 4 or 5 or 5 that shit will never matter, you will lose motherfucker/I am a farmer, and I'm a killer!]] Good game now/Play again tomorrow!.//(back to C)//1-2-3, my Mirana's gonna push/She's unstoppable now with my Manta Style/Firing Arrow!/Bang you go again/Damn motherfucker/you're dead once again bitch/Now getting chased, it's got the Leap, boy/Never gonna catch it even if it's Faceless Void/Using TP now/Dream on dawgs/Yeah, son of a bitch I'm gonna get ya back!//(back to C)//(Guy)There's no need to get jealous now/I'll never ditch you off for a game called [=DotA=]/(Girl)What kind of fun do you get from that?/(Guy)It never concerns you, just go back to sleep now.//(back to C)]]

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** This one too, if you can understand it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGlJICZ35ks&fmt=18 [[hottip:*:[[{{Engrish}} [[note]][[{{Engrish}} Rough Translation]]: (C)What the hell is that, do you love me less than [=DotA=]?/Every night when I'm asleep you're just right here in my arms./When I woke up in the morning, you're not already there./Please tell me the truth, do you love [=DotA=] more than me?//When I wake up in the mornin',Gotta play all day in [=DotA=]/No money don't no matter cuz I'm ready for battle/I'm dreamin'/to get one off yo dawg/You place the bet dawg gotta beat the opposition/[[GratuitousEnglish 4 on 4 or 5 or 5 that shit will never matter, you will lose motherfucker/I am a farmer, and I'm a killer!]] Good game now/Play again tomorrow!.//(back to C)//1-2-3, my Mirana's gonna push/She's unstoppable now with my Manta Style/Firing Arrow!/Bang you go again/Damn motherfucker/you're dead once again bitch/Now getting chased, it's got the Leap, boy/Never gonna catch it even if it's Faceless Void/Using TP now/Dream on dawgs/Yeah, son of a bitch I'm gonna get ya back!//(back to C)//(Guy)There's no need to get jealous now/I'll never ditch you off for a game called [=DotA=]/(Girl)What kind of fun do you get from that?/(Guy)It never concerns you, just go back to sleep now.//(back to C)]]C)[[/note]]
14th Aug '13 9:37:19 AM hullflyer
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* {{Griefer}}: [=DotA=] 2 has a ''terrible'' problem with people who leave the game. It's slightly nullified in that if someone leaves, the game declared unfair and lets other players leave without penalty, but in this usually just makes the situation for a losing team ''worse''.

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* {{Griefer}}: [=DotA=] 2 has a ''terrible'' problem with people who leave the game. It's slightly nullified in that if someone leaves, the game is declared unfair and lets other players leave without penalty, but in this usually just makes the situation for a losing team ''worse''.
29th Jun '13 7:04:53 PM serialkillerwhale
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** Phantom Lancer, or as most people call him "Phantom Cancer" is a hard carry that only needs 4000 gold to be end game, can push all 3 lanes without risking his own life, oh and did we mention he has a great early game escape thanks to doppelwalk, which doesn't even clue people in to the fact that he switched places with a fake until the illusion dies?
2nd Dec '12 2:26:23 AM SeptimusHeap
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* {{Scrub}}: Most players starting out play like this: either their attitude improves or [[{{ItGotWorse}} they get worse]].

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* {{Scrub}}: Most players starting out play like this: either their attitude improves or [[{{ItGotWorse}} they get worse]].worse.
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