History YMMV / DanganRonpa

1st Jan '18 7:39:22 PM Elyana
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* EvilIsCool: Sure, [[BigBad Junko]] may be an insane, psychotic monster, but ''damn'' if she doesn't own it.
* EvilIsSexy: Junko again. Looking that good probably didn't hurt her chances at being the Ultimate Fashionista.



* EvilIsSexy: Sure, [[BigBad Junko]] may be an insane, psychotic monster, but you wouldn't know it to look at her.
1st Jan '18 7:36:26 PM Elyana
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* EvilIsSexy: Sure, [[BigBad Junko]] may be an insane, psychotic monster, but you wouldn't know it to look at her.
27th Dec '17 4:55:51 PM Valiona
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** Sayaka Maizono is pretty divisive too. Some like her and believe that even when she's '''not''' justified in attempting to murder Leon and framing Makoto, she did it upon being broken and pressured by Monokuma hitting her weakest spots. Others believe that she's just a self-serving murderer for the actions depicted above. Made worse that unlike Celeste and Leon, the manga section for her seemed to play her plot straightforward instead of giving her a slightly better AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, aside from confirming Kyoko's supposition that she left her DyingClue out of remorse instead of revenge. It should be noted that Sayaka planned her murder and died without ever learning about the class trials, a circumstance that makes her unique to the rest of the characters who planned murder in the franchise.

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** Sayaka Maizono is pretty divisive too. Some like her and believe that even when she's '''not''' justified in attempting to murder Leon and framing Makoto, she did it upon being broken and pressured by Monokuma hitting her weakest spots. Others believe that she's just a self-serving murderer for the actions depicted above. Made worse that unlike Celeste and Leon, the manga section for her seemed to play her plot straightforward instead of giving her a slightly better AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, aside from confirming Kyoko's supposition that she left her DyingClue out of remorse instead of revenge. It should be noted that Sayaka planned her murder and died without ever learning about the class trials, a circumstance that makes her unique to the rest of the characters who planned murder in the franchise.franchise- she didn't know that anyone other than her intended victim would have to die in order for her to graduate.



** Fans tend to forget that regardless of the situation pushed by Monokuma, Celeste still committed two premeditated murders (unlike Leon, who killed Sayaka in response to her own attempt to kill him, and Mondo, who killed Chihiro in a fit of rage), making her one of the most depraved characters in the game; but she carries herself in such an elegant, amusing manner that even her FreakOut is often considered a plus point instead of showing how sociopathic she is. Even aside from her actions in Chapter 3, fans also generally overlook the fact that she callously victim-blamed Chihiro for being murdered simply because he broke the unofficial nighttime rule that the group had previously agreed to.

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** Fans tend to forget that regardless of the situation pushed by Monokuma, Celeste still committed is responsible for two premeditated murders murder- manipulating Hifumi into killing Taka, then killing him herself (unlike Leon, who killed Sayaka in response to her own attempt to kill him, and Mondo, who killed Chihiro in a fit of rage), making her one of the most depraved characters in the game; but she carries herself in such an elegant, amusing manner that even her FreakOut is often considered a plus point instead of showing how sociopathic she is. Even aside from her actions in Chapter 3, fans also generally overlook the fact that she callously victim-blamed Chihiro for being murdered simply because he broke the unofficial nighttime rule that the group had previously agreed to.



* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The game is noticeably more chaste -- bar some HoYay, the only elements of romance are Makoto's crush on Sayaka (which only lasts about halfway into the first chapter due to the latter's death), Toko's love for Byakuya (entirely PlayedForLaughs), and Kyoko becoming the ImpliedLoveInterest. Compare this to later installments, where the ShipTease and outright romance is considerably played up, [[LoveHurts usually to tragic results]].

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The game is noticeably more chaste -- bar some HoYay, the only elements of romance are Makoto's crush on Sayaka (which only lasts about halfway into the first chapter due to the latter's death), Toko's love for Byakuya (entirely PlayedForLaughs), and Kyoko becoming the ImpliedLoveInterest. Compare this to later installments, where the ShipTease and outright romance is considerably played up, [[LoveHurts usually to tragic results]]. results]].
** Unlike later installments, in which all characters have Free Time Event chains of equal lengths, some of those who die early on only have a few events (for example, Leon and Mukuro have three each, and Sayaka has only two), while people who make it into the late game and survivors have longer chains- in Toko's case, she not only has several events, but Genocide Jack has a few, too.



** The fact that Sakura achieved her goals, and that her death was a suicide means that Hiro's prediction that there wouldn't be any more murders was actually correct.



** Kyoko inspecting Chihiro's and Hifumi's corpses without hesitation has convinced people that she has a fetish for them.

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** Kyoko inspecting Chihiro's and Hifumi's corpses without hesitation has convinced people that she has a fetish for them. It doesn't help that she performs a similar investigation in Danganronpa 3.



** Makoto also gets a lot of flak for not being as sharp as Kyoko, even though he's just behind her and Byakuya in terms of mystery solving skill. Him not able to figure out Sayaka's DyingClue in particular gets this, even though he's Japanese and couldn't possibly read English like that, when Kyoko, the one figures it out, is stated to have studied overseas.

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** Makoto also gets a lot of flak for not being as sharp as Kyoko, even though he's just behind her and Byakuya in terms of mystery solving skill.skill, and is arguably more useful than Byakuya in Chapter 4, since he doesn't fixate on the theory that Hina killed Sakura. Him not able to figure out Sayaka's DyingClue in particular gets this, even though he's Japanese and couldn't possibly read English like that, when Kyoko, the one figures it out, is stated to have studied overseas.



** As it turns out, 90% of the second trial turns out to be this, and it was actually ''[[InvokedTrope Invoked]]'' ''InUniverse''. Byakuya witnessed the crime and knew who the culprit was all along. But he didn't come out and say it because he wanted to see who was smart enough to be a threat to him if he committed a murder of his own. Instead, he tampers with the crime scene, resulting in two RedHerring plot threads.

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** As it turns out, 90% of the second trial turns out to be this, and it was actually ''[[InvokedTrope Invoked]]'' ''InUniverse''. Byakuya witnessed the killer leaving the scene of the crime and knew who the culprit was all along. But he didn't come out and say it because he wanted to see who was smart enough to be a threat to him if he committed a murder of his own. Instead, he tampers with the crime scene, resulting in two RedHerring plot threads.



* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Kiyotaka and Mukuro is ship that is slowly growing in popularity, primarily among the Japanese fanbase. They didn't interact much during the one chapter they had together in which Mukuro was disguised as Junko, and didn't have any established connection with one another. Not to mention, Mukuro is all but stated to have feelings for Makoto. The most likely explanation for why may be due to their specific talents.
** Kiyotaka is also often paired with [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 Peko]], despite her canon interest in Fuyuhiko. This is because of their shared interest in Kendo. This is helped by [[https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/danganronpa/images/4/46/Danganronpa_Reload_official_art_Ishimaru_and_Pekoyama.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140820103715 official artwork of them practicing together]].

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Kiyotaka and Mukuro is a ship that is slowly growing in popularity, primarily among the Japanese fanbase. They didn't interact much during the one chapter they had together in which Mukuro was disguised as Junko, and didn't have any established connection with one another. Not to mention, Mukuro is all but stated to have feelings for Makoto. The most likely explanation for why may be due to their specific talents.
** Kiyotaka is also often paired with [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 Peko]], despite her canon interest in Fuyuhiko.Fuyuhiko, and the fact that she and Kiyotaka don't even interact during V3's Talent Development Plan. This is because of their shared interest in Kendo. This is helped by [[https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/danganronpa/images/4/46/Danganronpa_Reload_official_art_Ishimaru_and_Pekoyama.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140820103715 official artwork of them practicing together]].



** Leon's execution.

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** Leon's execution. Not only is it the first, but it's also one of the most brutal, which makes it the one people remember the most.


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27th Dec '17 1:32:51 AM ZoeyPosthuman
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** There's also Genocide Jack, who's unabashed in her status as a SerialKiller. Her reason for not killing anyone in the game is solely for PragmaticVillainy instead of EvenEvilHasStandards (though that trope does come up when she discusses the mastermind's actions), making her someone you would not want to meet in an alley alone, especially if you're a hot guy. Of course, when you're under the grip of Monokuma, it's easy to get fans tone down your depravity.

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** There's also Genocide Jack, who's unabashed in her status as a SerialKiller. Her reason for not killing anyone in the game is solely for PragmaticVillainy instead of EvenEvilHasStandards (though that trope does come up when she discusses the mastermind's actions), making her someone you would not want to meet in an alley alone, especially if you're a hot guy. Of course, when you're under the grip of Monokuma, it's easy to get fans tone down your depravity.depravity, and fandoms being obsessed with fictional serial killers simply on the logic that being a serial killer is hot is far from new.
13th Dec '17 8:25:12 AM Snipertoaster
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** The fact that the cataclysmic event that precedes the story is referred to as "The biggest, most awful, most tragic event in human history"/"The Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Mankind" makes any mention of said disaster lose some of its impact, given that it sounds like a student desperately trying to pad out the word count of their essay. The fan translation ran with this by calling it "[[AddedAlliterativeAppeal Mankindís Most Despairingly Maleficent and Monstrous Malefaction]]."

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** The fact that the cataclysmic event that precedes the story is referred to as "The biggest, most awful, most tragic event in human history"/"The Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Mankind" makes any mention of said disaster lose some of its impact, given that it sounds like a student desperately trying to pad out the word count of their essay. It's perhaps for this reason that official translations of future games frequently shorten this to "The Tragedy". The fan translation ran with this by calling it "[[AddedAlliterativeAppeal Mankindís Most Despairingly Maleficent and Monstrous Malefaction]]."
5th Dec '17 10:12:56 AM rixion
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* AmericansHateTingle: In an official Japanese poll, Byakuya was ranked as the most popular character. On the western side, he has received a less warm reception due to his SmugSnake attitude and [[NeverLiveItDown him tampering with Chihiro's corpse in Chapter Two]].

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* AmericansHateTingle: AmericansHateTingle:
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In an official Japanese poll, Byakuya was ranked as the most popular character. On the western side, he has received a less warm reception due to his SmugSnake attitude and [[NeverLiveItDown him tampering with Chihiro's corpse in Chapter Two]].



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2nd Dec '17 10:33:58 AM rjd1922
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** The official translation changing Chapter 4's title from "All All Apologies" to "All●Star●Apologies" retains the Music/{{Nirvana}} reference while adding a new layer of meaning: the chapter centers around Sakura and Aoi, both of whom are "all-star" atheletes and have a lot to apologize for.
1st Dec '17 11:48:17 AM Demongodofchaos2
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* VindicatedByHistory: The game has always been loved by the fans, but it was generally agreed by all parties that ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' was an EvenBetterSequel. However, in later years, both ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' and ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' [[ContestedSequel came under heavy scrutiny from some fans]] (the latter has its own BrokenBase page), not helped by the events of ''[[Anime/DanganRonpa3 Side:Despair]]'' and ''[[Anime/DanganRonpa3 Side:Hope]]'' contradicting and outright [[{{Retcon}} retconning]] several events and details that were revealed in the second game. These controversial franchise directions has caused fans to step back and re-evaluate the first game, remembering what made it so beloved to begin with. Among the things it gets praise for are its very unpredictable "death order" (later entries started coming under fire for relying too much on [[StrictlyFormula specific scenarios and character archetypes]] for the sake of creating [[RecurringElement Recurring Elements]]) and having the best villain of the franchise (as covered above, Junko as she appears in this game was highly memorable, and attempting to showcase her rise to villainy eventually turned her into a BaseBreakingCharacter by the time ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' rolled around). When it comes down to it, a lot of people look back a ''lot'' more fondly at this game these days, particularly as ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' caught flak for relying on its StrictlyFormula habits yet again ('''especially''' in regards to [[spoiler: Kaede not being the real protagonist]]) when people were hoping that the series would finally mix things up.

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* VindicatedByHistory: The game has always been loved by the fans, but it was generally agreed by all parties that ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' was an EvenBetterSequel. However, in later years, both ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' and ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' [[ContestedSequel came under heavy scrutiny from some fans]] (the latter has its own BrokenBase page), not helped by the events of ''[[Anime/DanganRonpa3 Side:Despair]]'' and ''[[Anime/DanganRonpa3 Side:Hope]]'' contradicting and outright [[{{Retcon}} retconning]] several events and details that were revealed in the second game. These controversial franchise directions has caused fans to step back and re-evaluate the first game, remembering what made it so beloved to begin with. Among the things it gets praise for are its very unpredictable "death order" (later entries started coming under fire for relying too much on [[StrictlyFormula specific scenarios and character archetypes]] for the sake of creating [[RecurringElement Recurring Elements]]) and having the best villain of the franchise (as covered above, Junko as she appears in this game was highly memorable, and attempting to showcase her rise to villainy eventually turned her into a BaseBreakingCharacter by the time ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' rolled around). When it comes down to it, a lot of people look back a ''lot'' more fondly at this game these days, particularly as ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' caught flak for relying on its StrictlyFormula habits yet again ('''especially''' in regards to [[spoiler: Kaede not being the real protagonist]]) when people were hoping that the series would finally mix things up.*
1st Dec '17 3:44:23 AM awesomia
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** Speaking of Chihiro, while Togami claimed to have messed with his corpse simply ForTheEvulz, some people have suggested that there was more to it than he let on. Specifically, he'd recently been told by Fukawa that her SplitPersonality was a notorious SerialKiller who made a habit of targeting men she was attracted to. Creating an inaccurate recreation of her crime scenes, he pushed the investigation to treat Genocider as the prime suspect before outing her ''extremely'' quickly. It's ''extremely'' plausible to argue, under these circumstances, that it was all a play to get her into a position where she couldn't get away with murdering him or, [[ItsAllAboutMe though secondary to him]], anyone else. Genocider proceeded to not kill anyone for the entire game, explicitly saying that it's because her refusal to break her unique modus operandi would make her a dead giveaway as a culprit.



** Sayaka Maizono is pretty divisive too. Some like her and believe that even when she's '''not''' justified in attempting to murder Leon and framing Makoto, she did it upon being broken and pressured by Monokuma hitting her weakest spots. Others believe that she's just a self-serving murderer for the actions depicted above. Made worse that unlike Celeste and Leon, the manga section for her seemed to play her plot straightforward instead of giving her a slightly better AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, aside from confirming Kyoko's supposition that she left her DyingClue out of remorse instead of revenge. It should be noted that Sayaka planned her murder and died without ever learning about the class trials. A circumstance that makes her unique to the rest of the characters who planned murder in the franchise.

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** Sayaka Maizono is pretty divisive too. Some like her and believe that even when she's '''not''' justified in attempting to murder Leon and framing Makoto, she did it upon being broken and pressured by Monokuma hitting her weakest spots. Others believe that she's just a self-serving murderer for the actions depicted above. Made worse that unlike Celeste and Leon, the manga section for her seemed to play her plot straightforward instead of giving her a slightly better AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, aside from confirming Kyoko's supposition that she left her DyingClue out of remorse instead of revenge. It should be noted that Sayaka planned her murder and died without ever learning about the class trials. A trials, a circumstance that makes her unique to the rest of the characters who planned murder in the franchise.
26th Nov '17 9:45:48 AM rixion
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* TheScrappy
** A lot of people don't like Hifumi for being a stereotypical nerd, his perverted tendencies, the NoYay relationship between him and his crush [[ArtificialIntelligence Alter Ego]], killing off Taka who became one of the most popular characters in the game (though, in his defense for that one, it was because Celeste told him that Kiyotaka raped her), and generally being unimportant for most of the plot. [[AlasPoorScrappy People still felt bad when he died, though]].
** Yasuhiro was in the "too bland" corner, but once he became a DeadpanSnarker and CloudCuckooLander, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap people warmed to him considerably.]] Or sometimes, it just doesn't work, people are also quick to dislike him because of his outlandish, useless predictions, or how [[{{Jerkass}} he can be very unsavory]] behind the back, especially when it comes to his debts (And by that, we mean the likes of begging his friend to donate his organs so he can pay his own personal debt). Making matters worse, he apparently has pretty good luck to survive a lot of deadly situations like this game, making people sometimes lament, '''"WHY ISN'T HE DEAD ALREADY!?"'''
** Toko also gets this for painting PurpleProse about {{squick}} in general. She's also useless when it comes to getting information from unless you're Byakuya. She was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap big time for a lot of people in the spin-off ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'', thanks to massive amounts of CharacterDevelopment by virtue of being one of the game's protagonists.
** Sayaka, mainly for being a BitchInSheepsClothing HoneyTrap who was willing to kill Leon and let Naegi take the fall for it, all the while manipulating them both with their crushes on her. The fact Leon gets a massively CruelAndUnusualDeath and Naegi is traumatised when he finds her body really don't help.

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* TheScrappy
** A lot of people don't like Hifumi for being a stereotypical nerd, his perverted tendencies, the NoYay relationship between him and his crush [[ArtificialIntelligence Alter Ego]], killing off Taka who became one of the most popular characters in the game (though, in his defense for that one, it was because Celeste told him that Kiyotaka raped her), and generally being unimportant for most of the plot. [[AlasPoorScrappy People still felt bad when he died, though]].
** Yasuhiro was in the "too bland" corner, but once he became a DeadpanSnarker and CloudCuckooLander, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap people warmed to him considerably.]] Or sometimes, it just doesn't work, people are also quick to dislike him because of his outlandish, useless predictions, or how [[{{Jerkass}} he can be very unsavory]] behind the back, especially when it comes to his debts (And by that, we mean the likes of begging his friend to donate his organs so he can pay his own personal debt). Making matters worse, he apparently has pretty good luck to survive a lot of deadly situations like this game, making people sometimes lament, '''"WHY ISN'T HE DEAD ALREADY!?"'''
** Toko also gets this for painting PurpleProse about {{squick}} in general. She's also useless when it comes to getting information from unless you're Byakuya. She was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap big time for a lot of people in the spin-off ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'', thanks to massive amounts of CharacterDevelopment by virtue of being one of the game's protagonists.
** Sayaka, mainly for being a BitchInSheepsClothing HoneyTrap who was willing to kill Leon and let Naegi take the fall for it, all the while manipulating them both with their crushes on her. The fact Leon gets a massively CruelAndUnusualDeath and Naegi is traumatised when he finds her body really don't help.
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