History YMMV / Cyborg009

7th Feb '17 7:31:27 PM GhostOfAGeek
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* {{Narm}}: From the episode "Friend" in the 2001 anime's English dub: "That only proves one thing... [[CaptainObvious BLACK GHOST IS EVIILLLL!]]"



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: How some feel about the 2012 movie. What with its ConspicuousCG and drastic redesigns for some of the characters. 002's design being the most drastic and complained about, as not only he becomes a blond but ''loses'' his GagNose. [[http://frozenviolets.tumblr.com/post/21792400632/takigawa-009-re-cyborg-002 Here it is, if you wonder.]] It should be noted, however, that his nose is still [[http://31.media.tumblr.com/7faccc2dbf21542764eeb8540d8099c6/tumblr_mqxvm8YGNG1rljy4lo1_500.png rather big]], it's just being portrayed more realistically.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: How some feel about the 2012 movie. What with its ConspicuousCG and drastic redesigns for some of the characters. 002's design being the most drastic and complained about, as not only he becomes a blond but ''loses'' his GagNose. [[http://frozenviolets.[[http://takigawa.tumblr.com/post/21792400632/takigawa-009-re-cyborg-002 com/post/21790821917/009-recyborg002%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AF Here it is, if you wonder.]] It should be noted, however, that his nose is still [[http://31.media.tumblr.com/7faccc2dbf21542764eeb8540d8099c6/tumblr_mqxvm8YGNG1rljy4lo1_500.png rather big]], it's just being portrayed more realistically.



* UnfortunateImplications: 008's original design, despite the very ''anti'' racist tone of the manga in itself. Toned down in later adaptations, like the 1980 movie and the 2001 series- where Pyunma looks much less caricatured. ([[http://frozenviolets.tumblr.com/post/21792207144/takigawa-o-o-009-re-cyborg And here is his re-design for the 2012 movie]], where he gains a BadassBeard and looks quite normal.) His 2001 design also carries over to Archaia's American graphic novel adaptation.

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* UnfortunateImplications: 008's original design, despite the very ''anti'' racist tone of the manga in itself. Toned down in later adaptations, like the 1980 movie and the 2001 series- where Pyunma looks much less caricatured. ([[http://frozenviolets.([[http://takigawa.tumblr.com/post/21792207144/takigawa-o-o-009-re-cyborg com/post/21791068037/o-o-%E6%98%A0%E7%94%BB009-recyborg%E7%A5%9E%E5%B1%B1%E5%81%A5%E6%B2%BB%E7%9B%A3%E7%9D%A3-%E5%8E%9F%E4%BD%9C-%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B0009 And here is his re-design for the 2012 movie]], where he gains a BadassBeard and looks quite normal.) His 2001 design also carries over to Archaia's American graphic novel adaptation.



* ValuesResonance: The team is not only multinational, but all the members consider themselves as TrueCompanions and treat each other with respect and affection no matter their differences. Not to mention the whole anti-war and anti-discrimination theme.

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* ValuesResonance: The team is not only multinational, but all the members consider themselves as TrueCompanions and treat each other with respect and affection no matter their differences. Not to mention the whole anti-war and anti-discrimination theme.theme.
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30th Apr '16 8:40:56 PM Angeldeb82
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* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/{{Cyborg009}} Here]].

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* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/{{Cyborg009}} Here]].Here.]]



* ValuesResonance: The team is not only multinational, but all the members consider themselves as TrueCompanions and treat each other with respect and affection no matter their differences. Not to mention the whole anti-war and anti-discrimination theme.
* VillainSue: The Gods from the ending just exist to kill all the characters.

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* ValuesResonance: The team is not only multinational, but all the members consider themselves as TrueCompanions and treat each other with respect and affection no matter their differences. Not to mention the whole anti-war and anti-discrimination theme.
* VillainSue: The Gods from the ending just exist to kill all the characters.
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24th Oct '15 9:29:19 AM Morgenthaler
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** G-Junior's backstory in the manga, however, pointedly avoids them. He was GenreSavvy enough to refuse a job offer ''because'' he didn't want to portray himself as a racist caricature.
** In several continuities, Albert Heinrich/004 fires his hand weapon by holding his fingers and thumb straight with a extended arm, which bears an uncomfortable resemblance to the [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Nazi salute]]. It's exacerbated by the fact that 004 is a German who lived through Third Reich era, given than he's in his thirties when the series begins (early 1960s).
28th Sep '15 4:50:35 AM NonperformingAuthor
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4CjzMjcM8U Here]] is the re-done 1979 theme.
26th Sep '15 8:01:16 PM PurrElise
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* ValuesDissonance: As the lone female 00-cyborg, 003's portrayal as TheChick and her lack of any offensive powers doesn't go over as well today as it did back when the manga was written. Later adaptions try to avert this by upping her ActionGirl moments but [[FauxActionGirl they aren't always successful.]]
14th Jun '15 2:33:59 AM MechWarrior
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* AwesomeMusic: The 2001 anime boasts an impressive soundtrack that combines heroically epic orchestra with exciting techno beats, with some [[TearJerker emotionally soft tunes thrown in for good measure]].

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The 2001 anime boasts an impressive soundtrack that combines heroically epic orchestra with exciting techno beats, with some [[TearJerker emotionally soft tunes thrown in for good measure]].



* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: At the end of the fight between 0010 plus and minus in the 2001 adaptation, [[spoiler: 009 walks up to their burned bodies while talking about how they are brothers but could not come in contact with each other or else they would die. The next shot shows 002 through 008, all worn out from the battle and supporting each other by holding their hands and propping each other up with their arms.]]


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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: At the end of the fight between 0010 plus and minus in the 2001 adaptation, [[spoiler: 009 walks up to their burned bodies while talking about how they are brothers but could not come in contact with each other or else they would die. The next shot shows 002 through 008, all worn out from the battle and supporting each other by holding their hands and propping each other up with their arms.]]
16th Aug '14 3:27:59 PM TerrorToad
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* ValuesResonance: The team is not only multinational, but all the members consider themselves as TrueCompanions and treat each other with respect and affection no matter their differences. Not to mention the whole anti-war and anti-discrimination theme.

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* ValuesResonance: The team is not only multinational, but all the members consider themselves as TrueCompanions and treat each other with respect and affection no matter their differences. Not to mention the whole anti-war and anti-discrimination theme.theme.
* VillainSue: The Gods from the ending just exist to kill all the characters.
19th Jul '14 12:04:03 PM Luma
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* ContestedSequel: "Conclusion: God's War" is meant to be seen as the official continuation and ending to the manga, however, the fact that it wasn't written by Ishinomori (owing to AuthorExistenceFailure) has left it ''highly'' contested by fans. The fact that Kazuhiko Shimamoto was left out of the planning for the finalized manga also sparked controversy, as Ishinomori had wanted to co-plot the original concept with him.
7th Jun '14 7:46:17 PM Luma
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** The Archaia graphic novel also garnered a pre-emptive negative reception of "Cyborg 009 ruined by Americans", due to the modernizing of the story, the feeling that Joe's design was whitewashed, and other cosmetic changes such as 002 once again becoming blond and more conventionally attractive. The fact that it compressed the first fifteen volumes (or ten, for Tokyopop's release) into one story also left some fans feeling disappointed, although the novel is also well-liked by many others in spite of these issues.

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** The Archaia graphic novel also garnered a pre-emptive negative reception of "Cyborg 009 ruined by Americans", due to the modernizing of the story, the feeling that Joe's design was whitewashed, and other cosmetic changes such as 002 once again becoming blond and more conventionally attractive. The fact that it compressed the first fifteen volumes (or ten, for Tokyopop's release) elements of "Birth" through "Yomi" into one story also left some fans feeling disappointed, although the novel is also well-liked by many others in spite of these issues.
5th Jun '14 2:40:12 PM Luma
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* DieForOurShip: Yaoi fangirls ''really'' hated 003 ([[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap for a while]]). 009 x 003 fans ''really'' hated either Cynthia, Ixquic, Carl, or 002.

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* DieForOurShip: Yaoi fangirls ''really'' hated 003 ([[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap for a while]]). 009 x 003 fans ''really'' hated either Cynthia, Ixquic, Carl, Karl, Helen (especially in the 2001 anime) or 002.002. As far as the "God's War" manga goes? Hisui and Alan aren't very liked due to being seen as cheapening the 009 x 003 relationship by being other love interests [[spoiler: and then there's Hisui as Himiko committing MindRape on Joe to make him hallucinate having sex with her.]]
** While most of this behavior has quieted down in recent years, occasional flare-ups can be seen in parts of the fanbase, especially when it concerns the sanctity of 009 x 003 or other fans not liking characters being either in the way of canon or their own ships. And especially with "God's War" complicating the matter.
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