History YMMV / Cryptonomicon

5th Jul '15 1:09:39 PM KillerClowns
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment -- Big Lipped Alligator ''Erotic Short Story''.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment -- BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Big Lipped Alligator ''Erotic Short Story''.



* HoYay -- Alan Turing and Rudy. Or as Rudy put it, Alan would soon have an umlaut in him. Alan also propositioned Waterhouse, but was turned down politely.

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* HoYay -- HoYay: Alan Turing and Rudy. Or as Rudy put it, Alan would soon have an umlaut in him. Alan also propositioned Waterhouse, but was turned down politely.



* SciFiGhetto The prologue to the Spanish translation makes it clear that "science fiction" also includes "fiction about science" (i.e. cryptography and information theory). The mass market paperback edition lists the book as "fiction" instead of "science fiction." Bookstores aren't convinced, however, and stock it in the "Science Fiction" section.

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* SciFiGhetto SciFiGhetto: The prologue to the Spanish translation makes it clear that "science fiction" also includes "fiction about science" (i.e. cryptography and information theory). The mass market paperback edition lists the book as "fiction" instead of "science fiction." Bookstores aren't convinced, however, and stock it in the "Science Fiction" section.



* TearJerker -- [[spoiler:Bobby Shaftoe]]'s death.

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* TearJerker -- TearJerker: [[spoiler:Bobby Shaftoe]]'s death.



* TheWoobie -- Goto Dengo goes through arguably the worst the book can dish out. It helps that, unlike every other Japanese officer and soldier we meet in the book, he's not evil or holding the IdiotBall.

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* TheWoobie -- TheWoobie: Goto Dengo goes through arguably the worst the book can dish out. It helps that, unlike every other Japanese officer and soldier we meet in the book, he's not evil or holding the IdiotBall.
17th May '15 12:33:34 PM AndresD
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** Randy argues that he is not privileged because he had to work hard through college. He doesn't seem to consider the fact that getting to go to college is itself a privilege.
6th Apr '15 10:37:55 AM nombretomado
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* OneSceneWonder: Two scenes, specifically; DouglasMacArthur, an unflappable DeadpanSnarker.

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* OneSceneWonder: Two scenes, specifically; DouglasMacArthur, UsefulNotes/DouglasMacArthur, an unflappable DeadpanSnarker.
18th Apr '14 7:39:56 AM mikke
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*** Randy doesn't really refute Kivistik's point either; he simply argues that his analogy is invalid because a network is not physically the same as a highway. Kivistik's 'ad hominem' attack, while smug, was in service of pointing out that Randy has lived all his life in a situation where advanced technology has always been available and can't really comprehend that the situation is different for others who have not had his advantages.
3rd Mar '14 10:34:44 AM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* OneSceneWonder: Two scenes, specifically; DouglasMacArthur, an unflappable DeadpanSnarker.
6th Nov '13 4:06:50 PM Jonn
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** Kivistik said that being able to understand technical books is a privilege conferred on members of an "elite class" of technocrats. Randy pointed out that he went to a public school, a state college, and was self-trained; hardly out of reach of your average American. At no point did he ever clarify his original metaphor, and only called Randy a "technocrat" by way of ad hominem. He only described what a technocrat even was ''after'' Randy said how he gained his knowledge. By his own definition, being poor has ''nothing'' to do with whether one can understand a technical manual. People learn a lot of that stuff by going down to the ''library''.

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** Kivistik said that being able to understand technical books is a privilege conferred on members of an "elite class" of technocrats. Randy pointed out that Except for the part where he went to a public school, a state college, and was self-trained; hardly out of reach of your average American. At no point did he ever clarify his original never actually explained himself, when challenged just used another metaphor, and only called Randy a "technocrat" by way of ad hominem. He only described what a technocrat even was ''after'' Randy said how then began trying to AdHominem Randy's arguments when he gained his knowledge. By his own definition, being poor has ''nothing'' to do with whether one can understand a technical manual. People learn a lot of that stuff by going down to the ''library''.spoke up.
5th Nov '13 3:45:49 PM Jonn
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** Kivistik said that being able to understand technical books is a privilege conferred on members of an "elite class" of technocrats. Randy pointed out that he went to a public school, a state college, and was self-trained; hardly out of reach of your average American. At no point did he ever clarify his original metaphor, and only called Randy a "technocrat" by way of ad hominem. He only described what a technocrat even was ''after'' Randy said how he gained his knowledge. By his own definition, being poor has ''nothing'' to do with whether one can understand a technical manual. People learn a lot of that stuff by going down to the ''library''.
14th Apr '13 8:08:17 AM Austin
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* AuthorTract: To almost Ayn Randian levels in some places, but most notable when Enoch Root becomes his mouthpiece.



* YellowPeril -- Granted that Stephenson is fully backed up by the research in terms of the behavior of Japanese soldiers during World War II, but it is somewhat awkward to realize that Goto Dengo is the only Japanese character during the World War II sections of the book who is not, at best, holding the IdiotBall and is not, at worst, an incredibly vile human being. Implying that their culture made them that way, while arguably somewhat true, [[UnfortunateImplications really doesn't help matters.]]
9th Jan '13 6:57:28 PM TVRulezAgain
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* TheWoobie -- Goto Dengo goes through arguably the worst the book can dish out. It helps that, unlike every other Japanese officer and soldier we meet in the book, he's not a CompleteMonster or holding the IdiotBall.

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* TheWoobie -- Goto Dengo goes through arguably the worst the book can dish out. It helps that, unlike every other Japanese officer and soldier we meet in the book, he's not a CompleteMonster evil or holding the IdiotBall.
30th Jan '12 6:58:31 AM Jicragg
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* HoYay -- Alan Turing and Rudy. Or as Rudy put it, Alan would soon have an umlaut in him. Alan also propositioned Waterhouse, but was turned down politely.
** Rudy and [[spoiler:Bischoff]], later in the book.



* TearJerker -- [[{{Taelor}} ThisTroper]] dares you to read the scene where [[spoiler:Bobby Shaftoe]] dies and not tear up.

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* TearJerker -- [[{{Taelor}} ThisTroper]] dares you to read the scene where [[spoiler:Bobby Shaftoe]] dies and not tear up.Shaftoe]]'s death.



* YellowPeril -- Granted that Stephenson is fully backed up by the research in terms of the behavior of Japanese soldiers during World War II, but it is somewhat awkward to realize that Goto Dengo is the only Japanese character during the World War II sections of the book who is not, at best, holding the IdiotBall and is not, at worst, an incredibly vile human being. Implying that their culture made them that way, while arguably somewhat true, [[UnfortunateImplications really doesn't help matters.]]

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* YellowPeril -- Granted that Stephenson is fully backed up by the research in terms of the behavior of Japanese soldiers during World War II, but it is somewhat awkward to realize that Goto Dengo is the only Japanese character during the World War II sections of the book who is not, at best, holding the IdiotBall and is not, at worst, an incredibly vile human being. Implying that their culture made them that way, while arguably somewhat true, [[UnfortunateImplications really doesn't help matters.]]]]
* TheWoobie -- Goto Dengo goes through arguably the worst the book can dish out. It helps that, unlike every other Japanese officer and soldier we meet in the book, he's not a CompleteMonster or holding the IdiotBall.
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