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* CutSong: During rehearsals, Mozart cut Guiglielmo's long, showy Act 1 aria "Rivolgete a lui lo sguardo" and replaced it with a much shorter aria. "Rivolgete" was published separately, and some productions put it back into the opera for singers who want a ShowStopper.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Lots of them. Is Alfonso a StrawMisogynist or an enlightened man trying to cure both the men and women of their romantic illusions? Do the women actually fall in love with the men in disguise (and vice-versa) or are they still in love with the people they were originally engaged to? Does Despina actually believe that AllMenArePerverts or is she just saying that to tempt her employers into cheating on their boyfriends? Plus there's the AmbiguousEnding which leaves it completely open as to what choices the characters make in the end.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The quartet ''Alla bella Despinetta'' starts the section and then the sisters join in.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The quartet ''Alla bella Despinetta'' starts the section and then the sisters join in.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Lots of them. them.
** Is Alfonso a StrawMisogynist or an enlightened man trying to cure both the men and women of their romanticillusions? illusions?
** Do the women actually fall in love with the men in disguise (and vice-versa) or are they still in love with the people they were originally engagedto? to?
** Does Despina actually believe that AllMenArePervertsor is is she just saying that to tempt her employers into cheating on their boyfriends? Or has she maybe been treated horribly by some man and is now taking her revenge at the entire gender? Some performers sing the words "All of [the men] are the same" with underlying genuine bitterness.
** Plus there's the AmbiguousEnding which leaves it completely open as to what choices the characters make in the end.
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** The quartet ''Alla bella Despinetta'' starts the section and then the sisters join in.
** Is Alfonso a StrawMisogynist or an enlightened man trying to cure both the men and women of their romantic
** Do the women actually fall in love with the men in disguise (and vice-versa) or are they still in love with the people they were originally engaged
** Does Despina actually believe that AllMenArePerverts
** Plus there's the AmbiguousEnding which leaves it completely open as to what choices the characters make in the end.
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** The quartet ''Alla bella Despinetta'' starts the section and then the sisters join in.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop:
** Guys, all girls turn into sluts if you don't pay them enough attention. [[ImAManICantHelpIt They're women, they can't help it]]: AllWomenAreLustful.
** Alternately... it's unfair for men to expect women to stick to just one man, since [[ImAManICantHelpIt no one expects that of men]]. Monogamy is unrealistic and you're better off the sooner you learn that. If the characters of half of the tragic operas had heard Despina's advice, they could have survived (e.g. Otello, Tosca, [[Theatre/{{Carmen}} Don Jose]]...)
** Guys, all girls turn into sluts if you don't pay them enough attention. [[ImAManICantHelpIt They're women, they can't help it]]: AllWomenAreLustful.
** Alternately... it's unfair for men to expect women to stick to just one man, since [[ImAManICantHelpIt no one expects that of men]]. Monogamy is unrealistic and you're better off the sooner you learn that. If the characters of half of the tragic operas had heard Despina's advice, they could have survived (e.g. Otello, Tosca, [[Theatre/{{Carmen}} Don Jose]]...)
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* Rule34: There is a gay porn version released under the title The School For Lovers.
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** The trio "Soave sia il vento" is famous as one of Mozart's most beautiful ensemble numbers, with a gentle accompaniment under two soprano voices and Alfonso's bass line. Like the similar duet from ''Le Nozze di Figaro'', it became known to a wider audience through its use in a film, Creator/JohnSchlesinger's ''Film/SundayBloodySunday''.
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** The trio "Soave sia il vento" is famous as one of Mozart's most beautiful ensemble numbers, with a gentle accompaniment under two soaring soprano voices and Alfonso's bass line. Like the similar duet from ''Le Nozze di Figaro'', it became known to a wider audience through its use in a film, Creator/JohnSchlesinger's ''Film/SundayBloodySunday''.
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** The trio "Soave sia il vento" is famous as one of Mozart's most beautiful ensemble numbers, with a gentle accompaniment under two soprano voices and Alfonso's bass line. Like the similar duet from ''Le Nozze di Figaro'', it became known to a wider audience through its use in a film, Creator/JohnSchlesinger's ''Film/SundayBloodySunday''.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Lots of them. Is Alfonso a StrawMisogynist or an enlightened man trying to cure both the men and women of their romantic illusions? Do the women actually fall in love with the men in disguise (and vice-versa) or are they still in love with the people they were originally engaged to? Does Despina actually believe that AllMenArePerverts or is she just saying that to tempt her employers into cheating on their boyfriends? Plus there's the AmbiguousEnding which leaves it completely open as to what choices the characters make in the end.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death despite the acknowledged excellence of the music. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, with many performances and recordings.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death despite the acknowledged excellence of the music. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, repertoire along with many performances Mozart and recordings.Da Ponte's two other collaborations.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death despite the acknowledged high quality of the music. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, with many performances and recordings.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death despite the acknowledged high quality excellence of the music. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, with many performances and recordings.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, with many performances and recordings.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death.death despite the acknowledged high quality of the music. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, with many performances and recordings.
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* ValuesDissonance
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* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, with many performances and recordings.
* VindicatedByHistory: The opera's cynicism and its AllWomenAreLustful attitude gave it a very bad reputation in the Romantic era, leading it to be mostly unperformed for over a century after Mozart's death. In the 20th century it was successfully revived again and soon became part of the standard operatic repertoire, with many performances and recordings.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The quartet ''Alla bella Despinetta'' starts the section and then the sisters join in.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The quartet ''Alla bella Despinetta'' starts the section and then the sisters join in.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: FamilyUnfriendlyAesop:
** Guys, all girls turn into sluts if you don't pay them enough attention. [[ImAManICantHelpIt They're women, they can't help it]]: AllWomenAreLustful.
** Guys, all girls turn into sluts if you don't pay them enough attention. [[ImAManICantHelpIt They're women, they can't help it]]: AllWomenAreLustful.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Despina, the snarky, world-wise maid who laughs at the dramatic notions of love her mistresses have, is always ready for a laugh and takes everything in stride. ''Una donna a quindici anni'' is probably the best example; the music even swells up into a crescendo when she tells them to do as she says to reign like a queen with "you could" and "I'd like".
* CrowningMomentOfFunny
--> '''Dorabella''': Our fiances have left for war!
--> '''Despina''': So much the better for them: You'll see them return crowned with laurel.
--> '''Fiordiligi''': But they might be killed!
--> '''Despina''': Why then, so much the better for you!
* CrowningMomentOfFunny
--> '''Dorabella''': Our fiances have left for war!
--> '''Despina''': So much the better for them: You'll see them return crowned with laurel.
--> '''Fiordiligi''': But they might be killed!
--> '''Despina''': Why then, so much the better for you!
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* WarpedAesop: Guys, all girls turn into sluts if you don't pay them enough attention. [[ImAManICantHelpIt They're women, they can't help it]]: AllWomenAreLustful.
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* WarpedAesop: FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Guys, all girls turn into sluts if you don't pay them enough attention. [[ImAManICantHelpIt They're women, they can't help it]]: AllWomenAreLustful.
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* CutSong: During rehearsals, Mozart cut Guiglielmo's long, showy Act 1 aria, "Rivolgete a lui lo sguardo" and replaced it with a much shorter aria. "Rivolgete" was published separately, and is sometimes put back into the opera for singers who want a ShowStopper.
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* CutSong: During rehearsals, Mozart cut Guiglielmo's long, showy Act 1 aria, aria "Rivolgete a lui lo sguardo" and replaced it with a much shorter aria. "Rivolgete" was published separately, and is sometimes some productions put it back into the opera for singers who want a ShowStopper.
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* CutSong: During rehearsals, Mozart cut Guiglielmo's long, showy Act 1 aria, "Rivolgete a lui lo sguardo" and replaced it with a much shorter aria. "Rivolgete" was published separately, and is sometimes put back into the opera for singers who want a ShowStopper.
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* PuritySue: The soldiers believe their fiancees to be this. Alfonso decides to de-Sue the women in their eyes.
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** Alternately... it's unfair for men to expect women to stick to just one man, since [[ImAManICantHelpIt no one expects that of men]]. Monogamy is unrealistic and you're better off the sooner you learn that. If the characters of half of the tragic operas had heard Despina's advice, they could have survived (e.g. Otello, Tosca, [[Theatre/{{Carmen}} Don Jose]]...)
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* WarpedAesop: Guys, all girls turn into sluts if you don't pay them enough attention. [[ImAManICantHelpIt They're women, they can't help it]]: AllWomenAreLustful.
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