History YMMV / Contact

22nd Jun '17 12:53:53 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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!!YMMV tropes and audience reactions for the novel by Carl Sagan ''{{Literature/Contact}}'':

* HeAlsoDid: Creator/CarlSagan, astronomer and famous for the scientific documentary ''Series/CosmosAPersonalVoyage'', as well as essays and books of scientific and skeptical nature, writing a novel might sound alien for some. Indeed, it's possible to notice common points in this book which are later repeated (or are repeated from) his other works.

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22nd Jun '17 12:53:15 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CluelessAesop: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and [[StayInTheKitchen chauvinist]] stepfather, John Staughton - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father, Ted Arroway, died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather, resulting in Ellie's conception. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview - that she had spurned her "real" father in favor of a "fake" - but when one considers how Ted did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and John ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in adoring the man they betrayed and giving the GlorifiedSpermDonor the cold shoulder. That her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].



* StrawmanHasAPoint[=/=]WrongGenreSavvy: Kitz is a total jerkass, but when you think of it, his fears aren't that stupid as they sound [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism in context]]. At one point he even asks Ellie directly about why she thinks the aliens ''must'' be benign.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint[=/=]WrongGenreSavvy: StrawmanHasAPoint: Kitz is a total jerkass, but when you think of it, his fears aren't that stupid as they sound [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism in context]]. At one point he even asks Ellie directly about why she thinks the aliens ''must'' be benign.



* VisualPun: The use of [[SpaceshipSlingshotStunt the slingshot effect]] while in the wormhole causes Ellie to look like she's being stretched back in one direction then sent flying in the opposite.

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* VisualPun: The use of [[SpaceshipSlingshotStunt the slingshot effect]] while in the wormhole causes Ellie to look like she's being stretched back in one direction then sent flying in the opposite.



* PlayerPunch: Done absolutely ''magnificently''.
* TearJerker: TheStinger at the end might do this for you.

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* %%* PlayerPunch: Done absolutely ''magnificently''.
* %%* TearJerker: TheStinger at the end might do this for you.
9th Dec '16 8:12:59 AM KneadToKnow
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* VisualPun: The use of [[SpaceshipSlingshotStunt the slingshot effect]] while in the wormhole causes Ellie to look like she's being stretched back in one direction then sent flying in the opposite.
26th Nov '16 7:29:10 AM Kalaong
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* CluelessAesop: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and [[StayInTheKitchen chauvinist]] stepfather - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather, resulting in Ellie's conception. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, but when one considers how her father did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in adoring the man they betrayed and giving them the cold shoulder. That her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].

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* CluelessAesop: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and [[StayInTheKitchen chauvinist]] stepfather stepfather, John Staughton - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father father, Ted Arroway, died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather, resulting in Ellie's conception. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, worldview - that she had spurned her "real" father in favor of a "fake" - but when one considers how her father Ted did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor John ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in adoring the man they betrayed and giving them the GlorifiedSpermDonor the cold shoulder. That her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].
10th Nov '16 12:53:40 PM brianify
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Added DiffLines:

** Palmer is every bit as unhelpful and obstructive of Ellie as Kitz or Drumlin, for both unscientific and selfishly personal reasons, but gets away with it because he's [[LoveInterest Matthew McConaughey]].
12th Oct '16 3:13:54 PM Kalaong
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29th Sep '16 11:04:56 AM Kalaong
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* MagnificentBastard: Hadden. There's no other way to put it.

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* MagnificentBastard: S. R. Hadden. There's no other way to put it.
29th Sep '16 11:03:30 AM Kalaong
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* CluelessAesop: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and chauvinist stepfather - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, but when one considers how her father did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in adoring the man they betrayed and giving them the cold shoulder. That her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].

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* CluelessAesop: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and chauvinist [[StayInTheKitchen chauvinist]] stepfather - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather.stepfather, resulting in Ellie's conception. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, but when one considers how her father did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in adoring the man they betrayed and giving them the cold shoulder. That her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].
23rd Sep '16 7:17:45 PM Kalaong
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* CluelessAesop: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and chauvinist stepfather - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, but when one considers how her father did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in adoring the man they betrayed and giving them the cold shoulder. That her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].



* ValuesDissonance: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and chauvinist stepfather - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, but when one considers how her father did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in giving them the cold shoulder, and that her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].

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* ValuesDissonance: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and chauvinist stepfather - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, but when one considers how her father did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in giving them the cold shoulder, and that her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].
23rd Sep '16 7:16:36 PM Kalaong
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*ValuesDissonance: A subplot that didn't make it into the movie was Ellie's rocky relationship with her mother and chauvinist stepfather - especially as her mother [[ParentWithNewParamour remarried]] just two years after her doting father died. [[spoiler:Turns out that her mother ''cheated'' on him with said future stepfather. Sagan describes this as a massive shock to Ellie's worldview, but when one considers how her father did all he could to encourage Ellie to enrich herself and her GlorifiedSpermDonor ''refused to pay for Ellie's college because he thought women were too stupid to be scientists'', many adoptees would think that Ellie was completely justified in giving them the cold shoulder, and that her mother was too ashamed to admit it while she was alive just makes both of them even more despicable]].
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