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* AccidentalAesop: The show tends to make the victims [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished do something good and end up getting killed as a result]]. Just to name a few examples, a guy is killed for trying to save a girl he considers a daughter from a prostitution ring, a security guard is killed as a result of repaying two violet shooters, and another tries to confess his role in a crime. Some people have taken this as AnAesop, even though it was likely unintentional.
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* AccidentalAesop: The show tends to make the victims [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished do something good and end up getting killed as a result]]. Just to name a few examples, a guy is killed for trying to save a girl he considers a daughter from a prostitution ring, a security guard is killed as a result of repaying two violet violent shooters, and another tries to confess his role in a crime. Some people have taken this as AnAesop, even though it was likely unintentional.
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** Thanks to AnachronismStew and WritersCannotDoMath, some episodes that would have been otherwise more serious tend to get undermined. Examples include the victim and her classmates in "Stand Up and Holler" being, at most, sixteen years old ten years prior (meaning they're either high school sophomores or juniors) yet are attending their ten-year reunion or how the victim and his [[spoiler: first wife]] in "Two Weddings" apparently having access to [=MySpace=] in '''2000.''' The latter may be a case of MostWritersAreAdults, since not only is that not possible, the page in question is very clearly based on Facebook (and leaves in the HTML address that shows it was a prop. [[LeftItIn Whoops.]])
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** Thanks to AnachronismStew and WritersCannotDoMath, some episodes that would have been otherwise more serious tend to get undermined. Examples include the victim and her classmates in "Stand Up and Holler" being, at most, sixteen years old ten years prior (meaning they're either being 16-year-old high school sophomores or juniors) juniors yet are attending their ten-year reunion with the seniors or how the victim and his [[spoiler: first wife]] in "Two Weddings" apparently having have access to [=MySpace=] in '''2000.''' '''2000'''. The latter may be a case of MostWritersAreAdults, since not only is that not possible, the page in question is very clearly based on Facebook (and leaves in the HTML address that shows it was a prop. [[LeftItIn Whoops.]])
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** "Family" can be seen as this. Yes, the killer and the kidnapper do end up being arrested for their crimes, but the fate of the mother and daughter is unlikely to end well; the girl is still [[BrokenBird damaged]] from her years of growing up without a father, her knowledge of mother abandoning her at birth (and in a garbage can, no less) and being exposed to the harsh world of foster care (or it was in her case). The mother, on the other hand, lives hand-to-mouth in a group home, virtually has no skills to come by and is seen as still [[NervousWreck emotionally wrecked]] by the end of the episode, even with the HopeSpot between the two women reuniting and all.
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** "Family" can be seen as this. Yes, the killer and the kidnapper do end up being arrested for their crimes, but the fate of the mother and daughter is unlikely to end well; the girl is still [[BrokenBird damaged]] from her years of growing up without a father, her knowledge of mother abandoning her at birth (and in a garbage can, no less) and being exposed to the harsh world of foster care (or it was in her case). The mother, on the other hand, lives hand-to-mouth in a group home, virtually has no skills to come by and is seen as still [[NervousWreck emotionally wrecked]] by the end of the episode, even with the HopeSpot between the two women reuniting and all.
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** The ending of "Ghost of My Child" is supposed to be one of the more moving and happy of the series; it ends with Priscilla, a recovered drug addict and struggling single mother, finally reuniting with the son she thought had died in a house fire as an infant. The fire had been used to cover up his kidnapping by a childless social worker and her husband. The couple are arrested and the child is removed. Except it's been three years since he was taken from Priscilla and while he seems to recognizes her, he's likely too young to understand that he's being taken from his kidnappers and given back to his rightful parent -- from his perspective, he would experience it as being ripped away from the only life, parents, and home he's known and given to a stranger. Returning him may be right decision (certainly legally, and arguably morally as well), but it's probably going to be a lot more complicated and traumatic for him than the upbeat ending montage would seem to imply.
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** The ending of "Ghost of My Child" is supposed to be one of the more moving and happy of the series; it ends with Priscilla, a recovered drug addict and struggling single mother, finally reuniting with the son she thought had died in a house fire as an infant. The fire had been used to cover up his kidnapping by a childless social worker and her husband. The couple are arrested and the child is removed. Except it's been three years since he was taken from Priscilla and while he seems to recognizes her, he's likely too young to understand that he's being taken from his kidnappers and given back to his rightful parent -- from his perspective, he would experience it as being ripped away from the only life, parents, and home he's known and given to a stranger. Returning him may be right decision (certainly legally, and arguably morally as well), but it's probably going to be a lot more complicated and traumatic for him than the upbeat ending montage would seem to imply. At least the mother may now be able to reconcile with her parents, who are willing support her raising her son this time.
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* AcceptableProfessionalTargets:
** Gym teachers appear on this show as creepy perverts and rapists with a strange regularity.
** Social workers are portrayed as unprofessional and unafraid to break the law for their own gain or power.
** The detectives have nothing but bad things to say about private investigators in "The Runaway Bunny," even referring to a cop who became a PI as having "[[Franchise/StarWars turned to the Dark Side]]."
** CorruptCorporateExecutive’s and [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled Rich Kids]] are usually AcceptableTargets in cop shows, but "Knuckle Up" really took it up to eleven.
* AcceptableReligiousTargets:
** Some episodes such as "Churchgoing People" and "That Woman" depict Christians rather negatively. Unfortunately, even in episodes where religion wasn't even the main plot point have a rather dismissive view of Christianity/God. One of the victims from "The Road" was a young woman who was a devout Christian that gave her life to the Lord, which the killer was more than willing to exploit; i.e., [[ArmorPiercingQuestion "If God loved you so much, why won't he do anything to rescue you?"]] Sadly, this broke the girl so badly, [[DeathByDespair it killed her in a short amount of time.]]
** Mormons aren't exactly treated with a positive light either. In "Creatures of the Night", the ultra religious aunt of a schizophrenic man told him that the voices in his head are "the voices of God", instead of encouraging him to seek professional help. As a result, the man indulged in those voices telling him to kill, turning him into a serial killer.
** Gym teachers appear on this show as creepy perverts and rapists with a strange regularity.
** Social workers are portrayed as unprofessional and unafraid to break the law for their own gain or power.
** The detectives have nothing but bad things to say about private investigators in "The Runaway Bunny," even referring to a cop who became a PI as having "[[Franchise/StarWars turned to the Dark Side]]."
** CorruptCorporateExecutive’s and [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled Rich Kids]] are usually AcceptableTargets in cop shows, but "Knuckle Up" really took it up to eleven.
* AcceptableReligiousTargets:
** Some episodes such as "Churchgoing People" and "That Woman" depict Christians rather negatively. Unfortunately, even in episodes where religion wasn't even the main plot point have a rather dismissive view of Christianity/God. One of the victims from "The Road" was a young woman who was a devout Christian that gave her life to the Lord, which the killer was more than willing to exploit; i.e., [[ArmorPiercingQuestion "If God loved you so much, why won't he do anything to rescue you?"]] Sadly, this broke the girl so badly, [[DeathByDespair it killed her in a short amount of time.]]
** Mormons aren't exactly treated with a positive light either. In "Creatures of the Night", the ultra religious aunt of a schizophrenic man told him that the voices in his head are "the voices of God", instead of encouraging him to seek professional help. As a result, the man indulged in those voices telling him to kill, turning him into a serial killer.
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** The ending of "Ghost of My Child" is supposed to be one of the more moving and happy of the series; it ends with Priscilla, a recovering drug addict and struggling single mother, finally reuniting with the son she thought had died in a house fire as an infant. The fire had been used to cover up his kidnapping by a childless social worker and her husband. The couple are arrested and the child is removed. Except it's been three years since he was taken from Priscilla, while he seems to recognizes Pricilla he's likely too young to understand that he's being taken from his kidnappers and given back to his rightful parent -- from his perspective, he would experience it as being ripped away from the only life, parents, and home he's known and given to a stranger. Returning him may be right decision (certainly legally, and arguably morally as well), but it's probably going to be a lot more complicated and traumatic for him than the upbeat ending montage would seem to imply.
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** The ending of "Ghost of My Child" is supposed to be one of the more moving and happy of the series; it ends with Priscilla, a recovering recovered drug addict and struggling single mother, finally reuniting with the son she thought had died in a house fire as an infant. The fire had been used to cover up his kidnapping by a childless social worker and her husband. The couple are arrested and the child is removed. Except it's been three years since he was taken from Priscilla, Priscilla and while he seems to recognizes Pricilla her, he's likely too young to understand that he's being taken from his kidnappers and given back to his rightful parent -- from his perspective, he would experience it as being ripped away from the only life, parents, and home he's known and given to a stranger. Returning him may be right decision (certainly legally, and arguably morally as well), but it's probably going to be a lot more complicated and traumatic for him than the upbeat ending montage would seem to imply.
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** In "Blood On The Tracks", Jack, Johanna's own ''husband'', mistakes Sarah for her while they and their friends are reviewing slides from their college days, driving home how much they resemble each other. This is never mentioned again during the episode, but later, after the detectives have figured out that [[spoiler:Johanna is the murderer and has been impersonating Sarah for decades, one recalls that we only saw Jack's death, not Johanna's and that Johanna was present in every one of "Sarah's" flashbacks. It also mentions that "Sarah" abruptly cut off the other friends after that fateful weekend and never saw or spoke to them again. Of course not. They would have recognized her and blown her scheme.]].
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** In "Blood On The Tracks", Jack, Johanna's own ''husband'', mistakes Sarah for her while they and their friends are reviewing slides from their college days, driving home how much they resemble each other. This is never mentioned again during the episode, but later, after the detectives have figured out that [[spoiler:Johanna is the murderer and has been impersonating Sarah for decades, one recalls that we only saw Jack's death, not Johanna's Johanna's, and that Johanna was present in every one of "Sarah's" flashbacks. It also mentions that "Sarah" abruptly cut off the other friends after that fateful weekend and never saw or spoke to them again. Of course not. They would have recognized her and blown her scheme.]].]]
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** "November 22nd". When we see Patrick Lennox's daughter, Hillary Rhodes, in the present, she mentions Patrick by his first name in the present. This seems like casual dialogue, but foreshadows [[spoiler: her not actually being his daughter]].
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** "November 22nd". When we see Patrick Lennox's daughter, Hillary Rhodes, in the present, she mentions Patrick by his first name in the present.name. This seems like casual dialogue, but foreshadows [[spoiler: her not actually being his daughter]].
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** Also occurs in [[spoiler:"Debut" and "Hubris"]], in which the killer turned out to be... exactly who everyone thought was the killer. The only reason the cases become as long and involved as they do is due to the villains' attempts to deflect suspicion off themselves.
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** Also occurs in [[spoiler:"Debut" and "Hubris"]], in which the killer turned out to be... exactly who everyone thought was the killer. The only reason the cases become as long and involved as they do is due to the villains' attempts to deflect suspicion off themselves. The actual twist in the former episode is that the [[spoiler:second killing that triggered the investigation was completely accidental]].
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** The killers in "A Time to Hate" are the [[spoiler:open homophobes]].
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* ValuesDissonance: While the case flashbacks to other eras often featured DeliberateValuesDissonance (see above), the present-day scenes are starting to show signs of this trope as of the early 2020s, due to changing views on LGBTQ rights in the years during and since the series aired. Weirdly, since "Forever Blue" was praised by critics and fans alike as progressive, other episodes are decidedly of their time. Most notably "Daniela", where the team makes jokes about the victim and continually deadnames her after TheReveal, and "Boy Crazy"," in which the team speaks about FTM transgender victim Sam in the derisive, dismissive way that the 1963 community does, and both times it's PlayedForLaughs. Lilly also vocally comes out at one point in favor of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policies for the police force. Could be argued as FairForItsDay, as nobody on the team ever feels that one's sexuality, gender, or gender expression is an appropriate motive for murder, but it's still [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece jarring]] and a reminder that the mid-2000's are a relic of the distant past.
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* ValuesDissonance: While the case flashbacks to other eras often featured DeliberateValuesDissonance (see above), main page), the present-day scenes are starting to show signs of this trope as of the early 2020s, due to changing views on LGBTQ rights in the years during and since the series aired. Weirdly, since "Forever Blue" was praised by critics and fans alike as progressive, other episodes are decidedly of their time. Most notably "Daniela", where the team [[PlayedForLaughs makes jokes about the victim victim]] and continually deadnames her after TheReveal, TheReveal; "A Time to Hate", where detectives drop the f-word on several occasions and express bewilderment why an old drag queen would continue to stand up for himself in face of discrimination; and "Boy Crazy"," Crazy", in which the team speaks about FTM transgender victim Sam in the derisive, dismissive way that the 1963 community does, and both times it's PlayedForLaughs.does. Lilly also vocally comes out at one point in favor of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policies for the police force. Could It could be argued as FairForItsDay, as nobody on the team ever feels that one's sexuality, gender, or gender expression is an appropriate motive for murder, but it's still [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece jarring]] and a reminder that the mid-2000's are a relic of the distant past.
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** The episode "The Boy in the Box" became this after the real Boy in the Box has been identified in December 2022.
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** "Late Returns" was based on the real-life murder of Chandra Levy, an intern to a California Congressman, Gary Condit, whom she was also sleeping with. The public opinion of the time pointed the blame at Condit, and the scandal ruined his career. Several years ''after'' the episode aired, Condit was found to be completely innocent.
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** "Late Returns" was based on the real-life murder of Chandra Levy, an intern to a California Congressman, Gary Condit, whom she was also sleeping with. The public opinion of the time pointed the blame at Condit, and the scandal ruined his career. Several years ''after'' the episode aired, Condit was found to be completely innocent.innocent, although the case remain unsolved after charges against the alleged perpetrator were eventually dropped.
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* AccidentalAesop: The show tends to make the victims [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished do something good and end up getting killed as a result]]. Just to name a few examples, a guy is killed for trying to save his daughter from a prostitution ring, a security guard is killed as a result of repaying two violet shooters, and another tries to confess his role in a crime. Some people have taken this as AnAesop, even though it was likely unintentional.
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* AccidentalAesop: The show tends to make the victims [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished do something good and end up getting killed as a result]]. Just to name a few examples, a guy is killed for trying to save his a girl he considers a daughter from a prostitution ring, a security guard is killed as a result of repaying two violet shooters, and another tries to confess his role in a crime. Some people have taken this as AnAesop, even though it was likely unintentional.
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** The killer in "Revenge", [[spoiler:the abused son of a pedophile who sought his father's approval]], so he led the victim, another abused boy, out. Did he intentionally send the victim to his death by encouraging him to swim across a river, knowing that he would drown? Or was he so traumatized by abuse that he genuinely thought a nine year old could somehow swim all the way home?
** The killer in "The Hen House" can be seen as either an attempted {{Atoner}} tragically pushed back into doing evil again, or simply a murdering, [[spoiler:identity-stealing, Nazi]] scuzzball through-and-through.
** The killer in "The Hen House" can be seen as either an attempted {{Atoner}} tragically pushed back into doing evil again, or simply a murdering, [[spoiler:identity-stealing, Nazi]] scuzzball through-and-through.
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** The killer in "Revenge", [[spoiler:the abused son of a pedophile who sought his father's approval]], so he led the victim, another abused boy, out. Did he intentionally send the victim to his death by encouraging him to swim across a river, knowing that he would drown? Or was he so traumatized by abuse that he genuinely thought a nine year old nine-year-old could somehow swim all the way home?
** The killer in "The Hen House" can be seen as either an attempted {{Atoner}} tragically pushed back into doing evil again, or simply a murdering, [[spoiler:identity-stealing, Nazi]]scuzzball scumbag through-and-through.
** The killer in "The Hen House" can be seen as either an attempted {{Atoner}} tragically pushed back into doing evil again, or simply a murdering, [[spoiler:identity-stealing, Nazi]]
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** The killing couple in "Love Conquers Al", who apparently believed their high school romance to be one of the all-time greatest love stories in history.
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** The killing couple in "Love Conquers Al", who apparently believed their high school romance to be one of the all-time greatest love stories in history.history, enough to kill an innocent girl to preserve the "purity" of their love story.
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* WatchedItForTheRepresentation: Not necessarily the show itself, but several individual episodes. Most notably ''[=WASP=]" and "Factory Girls", which have a lot of fans due to their portrayal of women in historically accurate UsefulNotes/WorldWarII support roles. And "It's Raining Men" and "Forever Blue" for their more nuanced depictions of gay couples.
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* WatchedItForTheRepresentation: Not necessarily the show itself, but several individual episodes. Most notably ''[=WASP=]" and "Factory Girls", which have a lot of fans due to their portrayal of women in historically accurate UsefulNotes/WorldWarII support roles. And "A Time to Hate", "Best Friends", "It's Raining Men" Men", and "Forever Blue" for their more nuanced depictions of gay couples.
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* MagnificentBastard: "[[Recap/ColdCaseS2E4TheHouse The House]]": [[EscapeArtist Hank Dempsey]] is a charming, likable thief who breaks out of prison to be with the love of his life. A playful trickster, Hank fools and runs circles around the wardens of his prison, carefully escaping from a seemingly inescapable prison twice. Defusing an attempt by another prisoner to kill him, Hank stages his own injuries in order to gain a way to make his final escape from the prison and be with his love. Utterly charming and with a knack for ingenuity, Hank is later able to safely escape justice and continues his days as a happy contended man with his wife.
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* MagnificentBastard: "[[Recap/ColdCaseS2E4TheHouse The House]]": [[EscapeArtist Hank Dempsey]] is a charming, likable thief who breaks out of prison to be with the love of his life. A playful trickster, Hank fools and runs circles around the wardens of his prison, carefully escaping from a seemingly inescapable prison twice. Defusing an attempt by another prisoner to kill him, Hank stages his own injuries in order to gain a way to make his final escape from the prison and be with his love. Utterly charming and with a knack for ingenuity, Hank is later able to safely escape justice and continues his days as a happy contended man with his wife. And he cannot be arrested due to the fact that the statute of limitation ran out.
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** Creator/AndreaSavage plays the victim in "Schadenfreude".
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** Creator/DaveighChase plays the killer in "The Sleepover".
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** Creator/SungKang plays the murder victim in "Who's Your Daddy?"
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** The killer in "Revenge", [[spoiler:the abused son of a pedophile who sought his father's approval]], so he led the victim, another abused boy, out. Did he intentionally send the victim to his death by encouraging him to swim across a river, knowing that he would drown? Or was he so traumatized by abuse that he genuinely thought a nine year old could somehow swim all the way home?
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** The killer in [[spoiler:"Roller Girl"]]. A WrongGenreSavvy DoggedNiceGuy, or a StalkerWithACrush who (albeit accidentally) killed his best friend after she rejected his advances [[spoiler:and got away with it for thirty years]]?
** The AssholeVictim in “Thick as Thieves” pleaded with her son, who was holding her at gunpoint, that she did all her scamming for him, to give him a better life. Was she telling the truth, and her recent scams were to provide a more luxurious life for her child than the one she had growing up in the trailer park, or was she just lying to save her own life, and her schemes were solely to satisfy her own desires for wealth, and her son was just a pawn in that scheme?
** The AssholeVictim in “Thick as Thieves” pleaded with her son, who was holding her at gunpoint, that she did all her scamming for him, to give him a better life. Was she telling the truth, and her recent scams were to provide a more luxurious life for her child than the one she had growing up in the trailer park, or was she just lying to save her own life, and her schemes were solely to satisfy her own desires for wealth, and her son was just a pawn in that scheme?
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** The killer in [[spoiler:"Roller Girl"]]."Roller Girl". A WrongGenreSavvy DoggedNiceGuy, or a StalkerWithACrush who (albeit accidentally) killed his best friend after she rejected his advances [[spoiler:and got away with it for thirty years]]?
** The AssholeVictim in“Thick "Thick as Thieves” Thieves" pleaded with her son, who was holding her at gunpoint, that she did all her scamming for him, to give him a better life. Was she telling the truth, and her recent scams were to provide a more luxurious life for her child than the one she had growing up in the trailer park, or was she just lying to save her own life, and her schemes were solely to satisfy her own desires for wealth, and her son was just a pawn in that scheme?
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** The victim's daughter [[spoiler:and murderer]] in "Blackout" is continually put down as "plain" by her drop-dead-gorgeous mother. [[http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3064265216/nm0999270?ref_=nm_ov_ph This]] is what the actress looks like when not made up to look somewhat frumpy. However, this was probably deliberate [[MindScrew on her mother's part]], given that the latter was pathologically narcissistic to the point where she [[spoiler: molested her own son and attempted to seduce her grandson in order to satisfy her need to be the most alluring woman in every room.]]
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** The victim's daughter [[spoiler:and murderer]] in "Blackout" is continually put down as "plain" by her drop-dead-gorgeous mother. [[http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3064265216/nm0999270?ref_=nm_ov_ph com/media/rm3064265216/nm0999270 This]] is what the actress looks like when not made up to look somewhat frumpy. However, this was probably deliberate [[MindScrew on her mother's part]], given that the latter was pathologically narcissistic to the point where she [[spoiler: molested her own son and attempted to seduce her grandson in order to satisfy her need to be the most alluring woman in every room.]]
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** "Jackals" features a pre-[[Series/BreakingBad Mike]] [[Series/BetterCallSaul Ehrmantraut]] Jonathan Banks as John Clark, leader of a brutal biker gang. [[spoiler: Yeah, he did it, one of the few episodes where the prime suspect was in fact the culprit]]. The same episode features a pre-[[Series/OnceUponATime Neal Cassidy]] Creator/MichaelRaymondJames as a biker.
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** "Jackals" features a pre-[[Series/BreakingBad Mike]] [[Series/BetterCallSaul Ehrmantraut]] Jonathan Banks Creator/JonathanBanks as John Clark, leader of a brutal biker gang. [[spoiler: Yeah, he did it, one of the few episodes where the prime suspect was in fact the culprit]]. The same episode features a pre-[[Series/OnceUponATime Neal Cassidy]] Creator/MichaelRaymondJames as a biker.
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** Watching season three episode "Death Penalty: Final Appeal" and season five episode "Spiders" ends up this due to the actors in the episode (Creator/MichaelJace playing a character who was ''innocent'' of the crime he was executed for in the former and Johnny Lewis playing the younger version of the killer in the latter) committing murders in real life.
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** Watching the season three episode "Death Penalty: Final Appeal" and season five episode "Spiders" ends up this due to the actors in the episode (Creator/MichaelJace playing a character who was ''innocent'' of the crime he was executed for in the former and Johnny Lewis playing the younger version of the killer in the latter) committing murders in real life.
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** Watching season three episode "Death Penalty: Final Appeal" and season five episode "Spiders" ends up this due to the actors in the episode (Michael Jace playing a character who was ''innocent'' of the crime he was executed for in the former and Johnny Lewis playing the younger version of the killer in the latter) committing murders in real life.
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** Watching season three episode "Death Penalty: Final Appeal" and season five episode "Spiders" ends up this due to the actors in the episode (Michael Jace (Creator/MichaelJace playing a character who was ''innocent'' of the crime he was executed for in the former and Johnny Lewis playing the younger version of the killer in the latter) committing murders in real life.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: To ''Series/WithoutATrace'', which premiered a year before. Despite the two shows being at the polar opposites of criminal investigation--in ''WAT'', there's tremendous urgency to find the presumably still-alive victim before he/she is killed, whereas in ''CC'', the victim has been dead for years if not ''decades'' before the team takes on the case, they followed a very similar format, likely because they were both created by Creator/JerryBruckheimer and part of the Series/CSIVerse--an opening sequence in which we meet the victim and get a hint of what led to their disappearance/death, victim disappears/is seen dead, the cops are brought in, we get numerous interviews with friends and family that lead to flashbacks (with virtually identical effects) that start to spell out what happened culminating in one that finally tells us everything, then the victim is found dead or alive/killer is found and we get a final montage of the cops and the victim's loved ones.
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* EvilIsSexy: A decent amount of killers and {{Asshole Victim}}s are quite seductive and alluring, including [[GoldDigger Sherry Fox-Stephens]] in "Sherry Darlin," [[BlackWidow Caroline Hargreave]] in "The Runaway Bunny," [[AlphaBitch Becca Abrams]] in "Stand Up And Holler," [[MrsRobinson Lauren Williams]] in "Blackout," and [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon Mike Delaney]] in "Justice."
%%* FanPreferredCouple: Lilly and Scotty, who had a clear UnresolvedSexualTension in the early seasons (even lampshaded by John Smith, who bluntly asks Scotty, "You get a piece of that? Bet you think about it from time to time.") [[MayDecemberRomance Lilly and Stillman]] and [[LesYay Lilly and Kat]] also have their fans, as do Kat and Vera. (Zero context does not mention a creator preferred pairing)
%%* FanPreferredCouple: Lilly and Scotty, who had a clear UnresolvedSexualTension in the early seasons (even lampshaded by John Smith, who bluntly asks Scotty, "You get a piece of that? Bet you think about it from time to time.") [[MayDecemberRomance Lilly and Stillman]] and [[LesYay Lilly and Kat]] also have their fans, as do Kat and Vera. (Zero context does not mention a creator preferred pairing)
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* EvilIsSexy: A decent amount of killers and {{Asshole Victim}}s are quite seductive and alluring, including [[GoldDigger Sherry Fox-Stephens]] in "Sherry Darlin," Darlin", [[BlackWidow Caroline Hargreave]] in "The Runaway Bunny," Bunny", [[AlphaBitch Becca Abrams]] in "Stand Up And Holler," Holler", [[MrsRobinson Lauren Williams]] in "Blackout," "Blackout", and [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon Mike Delaney]] in "Justice."
%%* FanPreferredCouple: Lilly and Scotty, who had a clear UnresolvedSexualTension in the early seasons (even lampshaded by John Smith, who bluntly asks Scotty, "You get a piece of that? Bet you think about it from time to time.") [[MayDecemberRomance Lilly and Stillman]] and [[LesYay Lilly and Kat]] also have their fans, as do Kat and Vera. (Zero context does not mention acreator preferred pairing)creator-preferred pairing.)
%%* FanPreferredCouple: Lilly and Scotty, who had a clear UnresolvedSexualTension in the early seasons (even lampshaded by John Smith, who bluntly asks Scotty, "You get a piece of that? Bet you think about it from time to time.") [[MayDecemberRomance Lilly and Stillman]] and [[LesYay Lilly and Kat]] also have their fans, as do Kat and Vera. (Zero context does not mention a
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** Karen Watson in "The Good-Bye Room". She initially comes across as a violent and crass girl, having been expelled from her school for beating another girl with a rock. Throughout the episode, she repeatedly scoffs at her friend [[WideEyedIdealist Hillary]] for looking forward to giving birth to her child, which she personally saw as a nuisance. When Karen finally gave birth to a boy, however, she fell in love with him on sight and was heartbroken to have to give him up for adoption with only fifteen minutes to say goodbye. Hillary attempted to reassure her, hugging her and telling her that he was going to a wealthy lawyer's family and that he would be well taken care of, but Karen only repeated again and again that she "wanted him back in his bassinet". In the present, it's mentioned that she spent decades searching for her son, joining multiple adoption search groups. At the end, [[spoiler:she chased after Hillary when the latter tried to escape from the institution, jealous that '''she''' got to keep her child, and then loses it so completely that she starts to think Hillary has ''her'' baby, and kills her to get "him" back. Back in the present, Rush arrests her for Hillary's murder, but also gives her a file with information about her son.]]
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** Karen Watson in "The Good-Bye Room". She initially comes across as a violent and crass girl, having been expelled from her school for beating another girl with a rock. Throughout the episode, she repeatedly scoffs at her friend [[WideEyedIdealist Hillary]] Hilary]] for looking forward to giving birth to her child, which she personally saw as a nuisance. When Karen finally gave birth to a boy, however, she fell in love with him on sight and was heartbroken to have to give him up for adoption with only fifteen minutes to say goodbye. Hillary Hilary attempted to reassure her, hugging her and telling her that he was going to a wealthy lawyer's family and that he would be well taken care of, but Karen only repeated again and again that she "wanted him back in his bassinet". In the present, it's mentioned that she spent decades searching for her son, joining multiple adoption search groups. At the end, [[spoiler:she chased after Hillary Hilary when the latter tried to escape from the institution, institution with her daughter, jealous that '''she''' got to keep her child, and then loses it so completely that she starts to think Hillary Hilary has ''her'' baby, and kills her to get "him" back. Back in the present, Rush arrests her for Hillary's Hilary's murder, but also gives her a file with information about her son.]]
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** Creator/JenniferLawrence appears as the present-day version of a teenage girl whose mother was the victim in "A Dollar, a Dream".
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** Creator/JenniferLawrence appears as the present-day version of a teenage girl whose mother was the victim in "A Dollar, a A Dream".
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** In "Triple Threat", the victims was an opera singer called Nadia Koslov. A few years later, a certain "[[Series/TheGifted2017 dreamer]]" would become somewhat well-known. Creator/ElenaSatine played both parts.
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** In "Triple Threat", the victims victim was an opera singer called Nadia Koslov. A few years later, a certain "[[Series/TheGifted2017 dreamer]]" would become somewhat well-known. Creator/ElenaSatine played both parts.
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** "Stay By Me" by Ben E. King is played in "The Good-Bye Room", when Hillary's boyfriend reassures her that he'll marry her after she delivers their baby. A few flashbacks later, it's revealed [[spoiler: [[DramaticIrony he's cheating]] on her]].
** "Shuffle, Ball Change". The victim's brother is clearly very shaken upon being told that his brother's remains have been found. It seems like a perfectly normal reaction.....[[spoiler: until we learn that HE'S the killer and that he's actually panicking at the realization that after 20-something years, his horrific deed has finally caught up with him]].
** "Shuffle, Ball Change". The victim's brother is clearly very shaken upon being told that his brother's remains have been found. It seems like a perfectly normal reaction.....[[spoiler: until we learn that HE'S the killer and that he's actually panicking at the realization that after 20-something years, his horrific deed has finally caught up with him]].
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** "Stay By Me" by Ben E. King is played in "The Good-Bye Room", when Hillary's Hilary's boyfriend reassures her that he'll marry her after she delivers their baby. A few flashbacks later, it's revealed [[spoiler: [[DramaticIrony he's cheating]] on her]].
** "Shuffle, Ball Change". The victim's brother is clearly very shaken upon being told that his brother's remains have been found. It seems like a perfectly normalreaction.....reaction... [[spoiler: until we learn that HE'S the killer and that he's actually panicking at the realization that after 20-something years, his horrific deed has finally caught up with him]].
** "Shuffle, Ball Change". The victim's brother is clearly very shaken upon being told that his brother's remains have been found. It seems like a perfectly normal
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** Felton from "World's End". Yes he does deserve punishment for murdering his wife 70 years ago, but by the time he is arrested, he is in his 90s and suffering from advanced stages of dementia, no longer being mentally capable of admitting guilt. His son practically begged detectives not to arrest him but to let him live out his limited time in peace.
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** Felton from "World's End". Yes Yes, he does deserve punishment for murdering his wife 70 years ago, but by the time he is arrested, he is in his 90s and suffering from advanced stages of dementia, no longer being mentally capable of admitting guilt. His son practically begged detectives not to arrest him but to let him live out his limited time in peace.
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* RewatchBonus: This happens frequently as new evidence and/or the revelation of the killer puts previous flashbacks in a new light. For example, in the opening sequence of "Forever Blue", this is said about the CowboyCop victim:
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* RewatchBonus: This happens frequently as new evidence and/or the revelation of the killer puts previous flashbacks in a new light. For example, in
**In the opening sequence of "Forever Blue", this is said about the CowboyCop victim:
**In the opening sequence of "Forever Blue", this is said about the CowboyCop victim:
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** In that context, it makes him sound like a womanizer. However, once you realize that he's gay, you realize that he never went on a second date, not because he couldn't be satisfied by only one woman but because he couldn't be satisfied by ''any'' woman.
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** In "Stalker", the mom's defensiveness towards her daughter's online activities comes to a new light once it is revealed that [[spoiler:the mom was {{Catfishing}} someone using her daughter's pictures]].
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** Felton from "World's End". Yes he does deserve punishment for murdering his wife 70 years ago, but by the time he is arrested, he is in his 90s and suffering from advanced stages of dementia, no longer being mentally capable of admitting guilt. His son practically begged detectives not to arrest him but to let him live out his limited time in peace.
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** "Saving Patrick Bubley" features a subplot about the police dropping the initial investigation, due to the lead detective and Lilly's first partner, Ben Fulcrum, being a racist who dismissed the victims as gangbangers and thus not worth investigating. Yet Fulcrum only appeared in the flashbacks and was not even interrogated in the current investigation, missing a perfect opportunity to be dressed down by Lilly or Stillman.
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** Creator/JohnathonSchaech plays a black man who could pass for white in "Libertyville".
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** A pre-fame Creator/KateMara, Creator/SummerGlau and Creator/MaeWhitman among others have showed up as one-shot victims; Creator/JenniferLawrence appears as the present-day version of a teenage girl whose mother was the victim in a Season 4 episode. Creator/TJThyne appears as the AssholeVictim's gay lover in as Season 1 episode two years before gaining fame as Dr. Jack Hodgins in ''Series/{{Bones}}''. Creator/ShaileneWoodley makes an appearance in a Season 5 episode as a sister of an Amish murder victim. Creator/KimCoates plays against type in a Season 5 episode.
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** A pre-fame Creator/KateMara, Creator/KateMara ("Look Again"), Creator/SummerGlau ("Love Conquers Al") and Creator/MaeWhitman ("Lover's Lane") among others have showed up as one-shot victims; victims.
** Creator/JenniferLawrence appears as the present-day version of a teenage girl whose mother was the victim in "A Dollar, aSeason 4 episode. Dream".
** Creator/TJThyne appears as the AssholeVictim's gay lover inas Season 1 episode "Greed", two years before gaining fame as Dr. Jack Hodgins in ''Series/{{Bones}}''.
** Creator/ShaileneWoodley makes an appearance ina Season 5 episode "Running Around" as a sister of an Amish murder victim. victim.
** Creator/KimCoates playsagainst type a MadBomber in a Season 5 episode."Sabotage".
** Creator/JenniferLawrence appears as the present-day version of a teenage girl whose mother was the victim in "A Dollar, a
** Creator/TJThyne appears as the AssholeVictim's gay lover in
** Creator/ShaileneWoodley makes an appearance in
** Creator/KimCoates plays
** Creator/ChristinaHendricks plays a [[FakeMixedRace black woman who could pass for white]] in "Colors".
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** In "Triple Threat", there was an opera singer called Nadia Koslov. A few years later, a certain "[[Series/TheGifted2017 dreamer]]" would become somewhat well-known. The woman who played both parts was Creator/ElenaSatine.
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** In "Triple Threat", there the victims was an opera singer called Nadia Koslov. A few years later, a certain "[[Series/TheGifted2017 dreamer]]" would become somewhat well-known. The woman who Creator/ElenaSatine played both parts was Creator/ElenaSatine.parts.
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** Future ''Film/{{Creed}}'' and ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' star Creator/TessaThompson played a cross-dressing lesbian bootlegger in the episode "Best Friends".
** ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' stars Creator/ChadwickBoseman and Creator/MichaelBJordan portrayed characters in season six's "Street Money" and season five's "Wunderkind", respectively: the former was the victim of the episode while [[HilariousInHindsight the latter was the killer.]]
** ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' stars Creator/ChadwickBoseman and Creator/MichaelBJordan portrayed characters in season six's "Street Money" and season five's "Wunderkind", respectively: the former was the victim of the episode while [[HilariousInHindsight the latter was the killer.]]
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** Future ''Film/{{Creed}}'' and ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' star Creator/TessaThompson played a cross-dressing lesbian bootlegger in the episode "Best Friends".
** ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' stars Creator/ChadwickBoseman and Creator/MichaelBJordan portrayed characters in seasonsix's 6's "Street Money" and season five's 5's "Wunderkind", respectively: the former was the victim of the episode while [[HilariousInHindsight the latter was the killer.]]
** ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' stars Creator/ChadwickBoseman and Creator/MichaelBJordan portrayed characters in season
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** Season 3's "The Promise" and Season 5's "Justice" comes off as this in the wake of cases such as Brock Turner and the "Me Too" movement.
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** Season 3's "The Promise" and Season 5's "Justice" comes come off as this in the wake of cases such as Brock Turner and the "Me Too" movement.
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** A pre-fame Creator/KateMara, Creator/SummerGlau and Creator/MaeWhitman among others have showed up as one-shot victims; Creator/JenniferLawrence appears as the present-day version of a teenage girl whose mother was the victim in a Season 4 episode. Creator/TJThyne appears as the AssholeVictim's gay lover in as Season 1 episode two years before gaining fame as Dr. Jack Hodgins in ''Series/{{Bones}}''. Creator/ShaileneWoodley makes an appearance in a Season 5 episode as a sister of an Amish murder victim. Creator/KimCoates plays against type in a season five episode.
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** A pre-fame Creator/KateMara, Creator/SummerGlau and Creator/MaeWhitman among others have showed up as one-shot victims; Creator/JenniferLawrence appears as the present-day version of a teenage girl whose mother was the victim in a Season 4 episode. Creator/TJThyne appears as the AssholeVictim's gay lover in as Season 1 episode two years before gaining fame as Dr. Jack Hodgins in ''Series/{{Bones}}''. Creator/ShaileneWoodley makes an appearance in a Season 5 episode as a sister of an Amish murder victim. Creator/KimCoates plays against type in a season five Season 5 episode.
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** Deidre from "The Promise". The poor girl was invited to a frat party, only to be fat-shamed, force-fed alcohol, and sexually assaulted. In her traumatized state, she set the frat house on fire, but unknown to her, the frat president deliberately locked another girl inside, who died of smoke inhalation. She is let away in handcuffs at the end of the episode along with the rapist councilman and frat president, as if their crimes are equal.
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** Deidre from "The Promise". The poor girl was invited to a frat party, only to be fat-shamed, force-fed alcohol, and sexually assaulted. In her traumatized state, she set the frat house on fire, but unknown to her, the frat president deliberately locked another girl inside, who died of smoke inhalation. She is let led away in handcuffs at the end of the episode along with the rapist councilman and frat president, as if their crimes are equal.
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** [[spoiler:Lyle]] in "Wilkommen", who ''literally'' killed to get a part in a musical. [[spoiler:He]] even begins ranting about how the show got cancelled after the victim was killed, showing [[spoiler:he]] cared more about being denied the chance to be a star than ''actually killing someone''. And the cherry on top? It was AllForNothing anyway, since it turned out that [[spoiler:the director was lying that there was a famous talent scout in the audience, meaning it really was just a completely ordinary community theater production and Lyle never could've become a "star".]]
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** [[spoiler:Lyle]] in "Wilkommen", "Willkommen", who ''literally'' killed to get a part in a musical. [[spoiler:He]] even begins ranting about how the show got cancelled after the victim was killed, showing [[spoiler:he]] cared more about being denied the chance to be a star than ''actually killing someone''. And the cherry on top? It was AllForNothing anyway, since it turned out that [[spoiler:the director was lying that there was a famous talent scout in the audience, meaning it really was just a completely ordinary community theater production and Lyle never could've become a "star".]]
